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| 16:47.56 | mindjuju | fungus, you around? |
| 16:48.10 | fungus | getting rounder every day. |
| 16:48.48 | mindjuju | :) -- i'm in a totally jacked up place on my ubuntu desktop install |
| 16:49.13 | mindjuju | what happened was that i upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and it's throwing a graphics error, so i did some research on it |
| 16:49.34 | mindjuju | this is what it looks like - http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error |
| 16:49.54 | mindjuju | so since it is an AMD card, i took the AMD route of: |
| 16:50.20 | mindjuju | which didn't work - sudo apt-get install fglrx |
| 16:50.53 | mindjuju | so then i went to download the drivers directly as instructed, downloaded them, and when i try to run it, it fails with this |
| 16:51.27 | fungus | Generally with those issues, I comb through installed packages and remove all traces of fglrx, ati, amd, etc. then reboot, make sure it works with stock (open source) drivers. |
| 16:51.53 | fungus | Then if I feel brave, install the proprietary drivers using the gui interface. |
| 16:52.03 | mindjuju | k, so remove all proprietary |
| 16:52.10 | mindjuju | i'll go that route |
| 16:52.12 | fungus | You probably have to nuke your /etc/X11/xorg.conf too |
| 16:53.19 | fungus | dpkg -l | grep -e fglrx -e ati -e amd |
| 16:53.57 | mindjuju | oh cool, i was jsut starting to figure out that line :) |
| 16:54.07 | fungus | carefully read each entry and learn if it is related to your gfx card or not. |
| 16:54.20 | mindjuju | since my monitors are hanging upside down, i'm having to read the console upside down |
| 16:54.27 | fungus | lol |
| 17:02.27 | fungus | eww, birds are gross. a pigeon crapped on my window. That had to take some serious aerial acrobatics to get the poop to hit my window. Lame! |
| 17:03.28 | mindjuju | :( |
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| 17:10.06 | herlo | fungus: or it could just be physics |
| 17:10.48 | mindjuju | don't look up though fungus, or you may be blinded by science |
| 17:10.55 | fungus | it is physics. but the fact that the bird went through the additional effort to poop on my window annoys me. |
| 17:20.10 | herlo | heh |
| 17:20.25 | herlo | I'm sure the bird was *aiming* for your window. :) |
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| 19:30.31 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 19:30.31 | raifbot | takes out a cattle prod and gives uxp a good jolt. |
| 19:51.39 | mindjuju | $8ball i bought Mass Effect (and 2) because Fungus told me too, was that a good buy? |
| 19:51.39 | raifbot | mindjuju - My sources say no. |
| 19:51.45 | mindjuju | dag :( |
| 19:52.44 | josephscott | $8ball are you ever wrong? |
| 19:52.44 | raifbot | josephscott - Outlook not so good. |
| 19:52.44 | fungus | It is a good buy, but be prepared to buy 3 as well. It's necessary and amazing. |
| 19:53.33 | mindjuju | i bought them on sale a couple weeks ago, i think i spent $12 for the 2 |
| 19:53.38 | mindjuju | i'm excited to play :) |
| 19:53.43 | fungus | wow, very nice. |
| 19:56.57 | ninnypants | Though the Massachusetts' boy's gun was not true-to-life, officers say real-looking toy guns can cause alarm, especially as criminals will paint orange tips on their real weapons to disguise them as toys. |
| 19:57.07 | ninnypants | it was a toy gun just larger than a quarter |
| 19:57.29 | ninnypants | https://www.ksl.com/?sid=25389744&nid=157&title=6-year-old-scares-bus-driver-with-tiny-toy-gun |
| 19:58.48 | DexterTheDragon | Why would a criminal paint an orange tip on their gun? Don't criminals usually want their gun to be taken seriously? |
| 20:00.38 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: I've never heard of a criminal painting an orange tip on a gun before now |
| 20:04.34 | ninnypants | also the idea of potentially suspending a kid over bringing a GI Joe gun to school is just ludicrous |
| 20:06.18 | mgeary | but, but, but… we're so scared, ninnypants |
| 20:06.28 | mgeary | and a "zero tolerance" policy makes us feel safer |
| 20:08.10 | ninnypants | mgeary: makes me feel safer |
| 20:08.36 | ninnypants | Seems to me that the only one that should be in trouble is the kid who yelled about a GI Joe gun |
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| 20:20.42 | mindjuju | THIS ISN'T FLAMEBAIT : i have a friend writing some software and is wondering what license to use, any suggestions on a URL to get him started on the various GPL, GPL2, MIT, etc? |
| 20:21.42 | herlo | Apache or MIT are good unless you want to require GPL compliance |
| 20:22.34 | ninnypants | mindjuju: WTFPL |
| 20:23.17 | fungus | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html |
| 20:26.13 | fungus | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-recommendations.html |
| 20:29.10 | tierra | what kind of software? |
| 20:29.24 | tierra | completely depends on how he intends for it to be used |
| 20:30.44 | tierra | though, personally I'm decidedly all about the permissive licenses these days, namely MIT |
| 20:31.11 | mindjuju | it's some kind of scientific software |
| 20:31.12 | tierra | but if there could be a few specific reasons to still use a copyleft license |
| 20:31.16 | mindjuju | that's all he's said at this time |
| 20:31.27 | tierra | desktop/web? |
| 20:31.35 | tierra | language? |
| 20:31.45 | tierra | libraries he plans on using? |
| 20:31.48 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://www.tldrlegal.com/ |
| 20:31.52 | mindjuju | he was at OpenWest , desktop, i think C |
| 20:32.25 | tierra | DexterTheDragon: nice |
| 20:43.59 | tierra | mindjuju: if it's a C/C++ application, probably fine with a copyleft license if so desired, but if it's a C library meant to be used in other desktop applications, obviously he'll need LGPL at the least to really be useful |
| 20:50.53 | tierra | if it is a library, and he wants his users to be able to quickly and easily link to his library statically (which can be very useful for a number of reasons), and not restricted to only linking to his library dynamically in proprietary applications, I'd suggest not using the LGPL and going with a more permissive license (wxWindows License comes to mind if he still doesn't want to go with a permissive license) ;) |
| 20:56.23 | tierra | someone formally from Novell had a great presentation at OpenWest this year suggesting that back in the day GPL was a big deal and made huge strides in changing the thoughts and behaviors of developers as a whole towards sharing, but these days it really seems entirely pointless and not worth the legal headaches and just saying lets just go MIT for everything - copyleft frequently paints developers into a corner even right in their own code (after building a ... |
| 20:56.23 | shalkie | ninnypants beat me to my suggestion. Otherwise I usually go with BSD. |
| 20:56.29 | tierra | ... community around it without copyright assignment) |
| 20:58.15 | tierra | within the GitHub community, it really seems like that's what everyone is doing already... just share everything, and everthing under MIT |
| 20:58.18 | tierra | heh |
| 20:58.26 | tierra | no need for GPL to enforce it |
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| 21:24.54 | shalkie | i |
| 21:25.08 | shalkie | d'oh. |
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| 21:45.39 | HumanCell | josephscott: I'm curious if there is a way that you know of to dynamically add a new short-code to Wordpress via an API? |
| 21:46.10 | josephscott | HumanCell: I don't think any of the existing APIs do that |
| 21:46.27 | ninnypants | HumanCell: I think there is a plugin to let you do something like that |
| 21:46.29 | josephscott | and shortcodes are code level stuff |
| 21:46.46 | josephscott | so if a plugin created an API to do that, it would have to store code in the DB |
| 21:46.48 | HumanCell | ninnypants: do you know the name? |
| 21:46.57 | ninnypants | nope but I've heard about it before |
| 21:47.34 | HumanCell | josephscott: that is what we are looking at ... we're trying to create a plug-in that would allow users to define them on the fly, through a admin page. Map a shortcode to a REST call that would return an html fragment. |
| 21:48.11 | josephscott | HumanCell: have you looked at the webhooks plugin? |
| 21:48.27 | HumanCell | not yet |
| 21:48.38 | josephscott | that may give you some ideas |
| 21:48.55 | josephscott | you can use it to run WP filters via remote HTTP requests |
| 21:49.47 | josephscott | which is both super cool and amazingly scary at the same time :-) |
| 21:51.31 | HumanCell | We've been creating plug-ins for client to embed their custom portal features into Wordpress with shortcodes. But we're writing a custom plug-in for each client, with their custom shortcode to URL mappings. |
| 21:51.43 | HumanCell | I'm wanting to create a nice generic way to do this. :-) |
| 21:52.33 | josephscott | HumanCell: spend a few minutes with http://wordpress.org/plugins/hookpress/ |
| 21:55.30 | HumanCell | Ha ... so this is SO close to what we want to do ... but I don't want to flow ALL content through our backend portal doing the content substitutions. |
| 21:55.37 | HumanCell | But it gives me a few more ideas ... |
| 21:55.53 | HumanCell | josephscott: can I do an include of code from the DB? |
| 21:56.27 | josephscott | if you write a plugin to do that, sure |
| 22:00.35 | HumanCell | Ok ... I think I have an idea on how to do this ... :-) |
| 22:00.47 | HumanCell | I might have our first plug-in to offer to the community! :-) |
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