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| 15:12.43 | mindjuju | ninnypants, how did the WPSLC bbq go? |
| 15:13.57 | ninnypants | mindjuju: it was great. Good food an good people |
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| 16:23.00 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 16:23.00 | raifbot | urinates on ninnypants. |
| 16:23.05 | herlo | ew! |
| 16:23.13 | ninnypants | well that backfired |
| 16:23.34 | herlo | :D |
| 16:23.39 | ninnypants | herlo: I should probably just shower and change completely |
| 16:23.52 | herlo | ninnyNOclothes? |
| 16:41.07 | SunSparc | ~redress ninnypants |
| 16:41.24 | Skinner | ~skinner ninnypants |
| 16:41.25 | ibot | ACTION buries ninnypants in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 17:25.01 | Skinner | Ok....who broke php.net? |
| 17:25.09 | Skinner | technically static.php.net |
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| 17:52.16 | ninnypants | Skinner: from what I've been hearing it was the chinese |
| 17:52.40 | Skinner | ah yes, hitting us right where it hurts most... ;) |
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| 18:39.48 | unum | I'm about to give up and use a table.... |
| 18:44.20 | josephscott | if it snows today I will not be impressed |
| 18:45.39 | fungus | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24116458.jpg |
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| 18:52.37 | mindjuju | is it snowing in utah? |
| 18:52.45 | mindjuju | what's josephscott talkin' bout? |
| 18:54.21 | fungus | just rain and thunder so far. |
| 18:54.28 | mindjuju | oh gotcha |
| 18:55.05 | fungus | sure is making me crave a hot chocolate and a blanket though. |
| 18:56.56 | mindjuju | is it cold? |
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| 19:12.43 | jsmith | ninnypants: Did you happen to get any photos from #wp10? |
| 19:12.51 | jsmith | ninnypants: (and if so, mind sharing them?) |
| 19:14.13 | mindjuju | yeah! good call! |
| 19:14.22 | mindjuju | and how many peeps showed up? |
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| 19:14.58 | jsmith | ~wake ninnypants |
| 19:14.58 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on ninnypants and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 19:15.19 | mindjuju | sup jsmith, how are things on your side of the webs? |
| 19:16.43 | jsmith | mindjuju: Super-busy |
| 19:17.05 | jsmith | mindjuju: I was at DrupalCon last week, and then have in-laws in town over the holiday weekend |
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| 19:46.15 | mindjuju | $8ball would a lot of people come if we held openwest 2014 in bora bora? |
| 19:46.16 | raifbot | mindjuju - It is decidedly so. |
| 19:46.41 | mindjuju | hmm, we'll have to see if it is in the budget |
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| 19:52.42 | herlo | except that bora bora is not in the west. Is that a problem? :) |
| 19:52.56 | herlo | I guess it's 'west' of some places. :D |
| 19:56.53 | mindjuju | we'll get there by heading west |
| 19:57.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:01.03 | herlo | hehe |
| 20:01.23 | herlo | mindjuju: it's go live day here. So I'm pretty much glued to my chair today. |
| 20:04.04 | jsmith | herlo: It's about time :-p |
| 20:06.40 | herlo | jsmith: I know. We've only been at this since September last year. So like 9 months. |
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| 20:08.25 | mindjuju | go live, sounds like fun |
| 20:08.33 | jsmith | herlo: You're so slow sometimes ;-p |
| 20:09.41 | herlo | jsmith: me and my 2 coworkers :) |
| 20:09.56 | herlo | I think if they weren't there, we'd be done already. :D |
| 20:11.41 | herlo | hmm, almost too much salami today. |
| 20:11.54 | shalkie | mindjuju: I would go to bora bora for the conference. Though I won't volunter. I could be to busy doing nothing on a beach or something like that. |
| 20:12.21 | shalkie | s/volunter/volunteer/ |
| 20:13.41 | mindjuju | word |
| 20:14.23 | mindjuju | if we did conference in bora bora, we'd spend the first 15 minutes handing out a page with a link to all slide decks and then go float on a boat and catch dinner |
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| 20:25.07 | herlo | mindjuju: you could od the conference on the boat. |
| 20:25.13 | herlo | in the pool |
| 20:25.36 | mindjuju | sounds like win-win to me |
| 20:36.33 | SunSparc | ~win mindjuju |
| 20:36.34 | ibot | Congratulations, mindjuju! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 20:37.20 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:38.28 | mindjuju | shalkie, did you see my post to you in #utah from the other day? |
| 21:29.27 | shalkie | The beardvertising? I am still pondering doing it. :-D |
| 21:29.39 | shalkie | I could possibly make some money on travel days. |
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| 21:40.11 | mindjuju | that's the one :) |
| 21:51.04 | shanemhansen | think there would be much interest in a design job being posted on UPHPU? It's not PHP-focused, but I've noticed this group is pretty broad. |
| 21:59.08 | mindjuju | shanemhansen, i think there would be, and there are a couple on here if you want to post more info |
| 22:00.23 | shanemhansen | Well, steals.com is looking for a unicorn. You know one of those Interaction designers with skills in HTML/CSS/JS and able to work within PHP templates. |
| 22:00.24 | shanemhansen | http://stealnetwork.com/career.php?id=10 |
| 22:01.12 | shanemhansen | I'm not a recruiter. I am however a recent hire, and I can tell you that I love working here. I came from being the first employee at SpaceMonkey, the google backed dropbox killer. |
| 22:01.21 | mindjuju | there are a couple of people not currently online that i think might be interested, i'll forward to them also |
| 22:01.43 | shanemhansen | Steals.com has been contacted by those same VC's, but turned them down because they've been profitable since day one. No need to get big and sell out in that way. |
| 22:03.17 | shanemhansen | We use Zend Framework if anyone cares about that sort of thing. Honestly I came from a python and golang background. I'm one of (many) authors of the golang standard library. |
| 22:03.47 | herlo | shanemhansen: there's a jobs list iirc |
| 22:04.00 | shanemhansen | I think there is. I just thought I'd test the waters. |
| 22:04.11 | herlo | shanemhansen: :) |
| 22:04.13 | shanemhansen | herlo can vouch for me as not being a recruiter lol. |
| 22:04.28 | herlo | it's true |
| 22:04.47 | herlo | though you probably do recruiting for your company :D |
| 22:04.58 | herlo | in the sense that any good manager does... |
| 22:04.59 | shanemhansen | That's exactly what I'm doing. |
| 22:05.07 | herlo | what is it, CTO? |
| 22:05.20 | shanemhansen | No C level executives. |
| 22:05.28 | shanemhansen | I'm Director of Technology. |
| 22:05.36 | herlo | ahh, that's what it is |
| 22:06.33 | shanemhansen | We use some fun open source php stuff beyond the usual. |
| 22:06.40 | shanemhansen | Phabricator for instance. |
| 22:06.44 | shanemhansen | Huge fans. |
| 22:07.21 | shanemhansen | phabricator is kind of like trac, but made by facebook. |
| 22:07.35 | herlo | shouldn't that be phacebook? :) |
| 22:09.24 | shanemhansen | brb. sorry |
| 22:15.29 | mindjuju | so herlo, am i totally off or does python not work like php when embedding into a web page? I thought it'd be as easy as mod_python and go, but it sounds like that's way off and i'll have to start up some python cgi? |
| 22:15.58 | herlo | mindjuju: mod_wsgi is what you want |
| 22:18.10 | herlo | mindjuju: I suggest hanging out in #utahpython |
| 22:18.51 | mindjuju | wouldn't i be banned from returning to #uphpu if i went into #utahpython? |
| 22:19.02 | herlo | lol, then I would be too |
| 22:19.24 | herlo | it's possible you may not want to return to #uphpu other than for the social aspect. :)d |
| 22:19.31 | mindjuju | ah dag! |
| 22:20.20 | mindjuju | so herlo, quick follow up on this |
| 22:21.52 | mindjuju | in one of the articles i read about mod_python (and i know that you just now recommeneded modwsgi), it was saying that every process loads up python ad that would tax the server, would mod_wsgi description doesn't seem to indicate either way. what i'm looking at doing is uploading some simple python scripts, having them run and then outputting the result to a web page |
| 22:22.32 | mindjuju | course, this other way would give me much more room for growth |
| 22:26.26 | herlo | ask in #utahpython, but mod_wsgi is better |
| 22:26.37 | herlo | it doesn't kill the server like mod_python did |
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| 22:29.15 | mindjuju | i'll have to do more research on mod_wsgi before i go in there, don't want to be shamed ;) |
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| 22:34.51 | fungus | mindjuju, to actually answer your question... No. mod_python is almost nothing like mod_php. |
| 22:34.54 | fungus | :) |
| 22:35.45 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:36.16 | mindjuju | some days i really miss living near the ocean, but this helps - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcXqFCMSbo |
| 22:36.20 | fungus | deployment is a big weakness of every language when compared to php. |
| 22:36.38 | mindjuju | yeah, that's why i was so surprised when i started the research |
| 22:36.46 | mindjuju | i thought it would be trivial |
| 22:36.55 | herlo | fungus: compared to php? really? |
| 22:37.02 | fungus | hehe, yeah |
| 22:37.10 | herlo | you mean in simplicity or security or what? |
| 22:37.15 | fungus | simplicity |
| 22:37.36 | herlo | well, maybe. I mean you can just setup a web server in 30 seconds with python, but it's not production ready. |
| 22:37.42 | fungus | not security, just simplicity for n00bs |
| 22:37.49 | herlo | and php uses fastcgi, which I wouldn't say is amazingly simple |
| 22:38.05 | fungus | apache + mod_php is the simplest there is. |
| 22:38.47 | herlo | if you call that good |
| 22:38.51 | mindjuju | getting RoR running to run redmine was brain numbing |
| 22:39.22 | herlo | phusion passenger is a PITA |
| 22:39.30 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:41.04 | fungus | getting RoR to run using built-in webrick is cake, but I wouldn't call that "deployment" |
| 22:41.40 | herlo | fungus: kind of my argument for mod_php |
| 22:41.46 | herlo | people call it production, but it's crap |
| 22:42.58 | fungus | It's not that bad. Just not optimal. |
| 22:45.12 | herlo | meh |
| 22:50.34 | josephscott | for a number of situations mod_php works just fine. Comparing to fastcgi is highly setup dependent |
| 22:50.52 | josephscott | if you only have one web server, fastcgi is likely to be a huge win |
| 22:51.17 | josephscott | for web server farm, then things become much closer performance wise |
| 22:51.36 | josephscott | that said, I still prefer fastcgi in general :-) |
| 22:52.00 | herlo | josephscott: I'm not comparing it to just fastcgi, that's just the one I prefer. |
| 22:52.24 | josephscott | yep, totally agree there |
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