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| 15:22.40 | josephscott | ninnypants: any idea if Sonny Brians has wifi? |
| 15:22.50 | ninnypants | josephscott: no idea |
| 15:23.59 | ninnypants | it says something about video equipment and tv but I'm not sure about wifi |
| 15:25.42 | josephscott | ninnypants: if they could swing some wifi that would be helpful for the WP party |
| 15:28.09 | mindjuju_ | bbq and blogging? |
| 15:28.12 | mindjuju_ | sounds dangerous |
| 15:29.36 | mindjuju_ | grrr, i just gave corban the speech about how he can't spend all day indoors working on code, he's got to get out and get sun. now i can't get the excuse of nerds don't need sun, without being hypocritical |
| 15:31.38 | jsmith | mindjuju_: Tell him for every hour he spends outdoors, he gets 90 minutes on the computer :-p |
| 15:31.59 | jsmith | ninnypants: Worse comes to worse, I'll send someone with a mifi :-p |
| 15:32.43 | mindjuju_ | can a wifi hold the load of that many bloggers? |
| 15:32.53 | josephscott | ninnypants: just posted about the 27th, hopefully we'll get a few more RSVPs |
| 15:33.17 | mindjuju_ | and i'm pretty sure blogging whilst bbq is illegal at least in 3 states |
| 15:33.26 | ninnypants | josephscott: that'd be good I think we're above 20 with the +1s |
| 15:33.53 | josephscott | mindjuju_: WP was born with BBQ, in Texas :-) |
| 15:35.47 | mindjuju_ | josephscott, course it was, Matt is from not far where i lived in houston |
| 15:35.52 | mindjuju_ | he's from Belaire, right? |
| 15:36.04 | mindjuju_ | their HS debate team was legend |
| 15:36.07 | josephscott | I don't recall exactly where, somewhere that direction |
| 15:37.04 | mindjuju_ | in fact, i want to say he did debate once, i kinda remember asking him that at that one social at that one indian resturant downtown slc many yars ago |
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| 16:50.23 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:50.32 | SunSparc | ~soap mindjuju_ |
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| 17:36.54 | mgeary | hey ninnypants (or anyone), what's your favorite WP mail-to form that allows for arbitrary fields (including popups)? |
| 17:37.33 | ninnypants | mgeary: so contact form 7 is a pretty popular free one |
| 17:38.02 | ninnypants | but in our stuff we use gravity forms which is a pay plugin but has a really good form builder |
| 17:51.11 | mgeary | does CF7 allow for popups? |
| 17:57.37 | ninnypants | mgeary: I'm not sure either of them do |
| 17:57.48 | ninnypants | maybe ninja forms does but I haven't looked at it |
| 17:57.54 | ninnypants | I haven't done anything with a popup form |
| 17:58.00 | wGEric | is it pretty easy to write addons to gravity forms? |
| 17:58.20 | ninnypants | wGEric: I don't know I haven't had a need to yet |
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| 18:14.15 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: Yup, a childhood memory. :) |
| 18:14.42 | mindjuju_ | what actually happened was that I just finished my last interview for the desktop support position and the guy almost had it in the bag, but then when i asked him if he had any questions about the company, he said he looked up the company online and saw some negative reviews and wondered what happened |
| 18:15.16 | mindjuju_ | it's like first off, we have an A with the BBB |
| 18:15.35 | mindjuju_ | second, you don't go into a company and say, i saw these things where clients aren't happy, can i have a job? |
| 18:15.44 | ninnypants | apparently paypal doesn't think this is a strong enough password m@}96B2C#Wf6:Min.X2L |
| 18:16.20 | mindjuju_ | that's pretty rigorous |
| 18:16.33 | mindjuju_ | i wonder if ............... would prove harder to crack? |
| 18:17.04 | mindjuju_ | i mean, if the bad person wasn't shoulder surfing passwords |
| 18:17.52 | mindjuju_ | or heck, if you wanted to mix it up a little you could always |
| 18:17.58 | mindjuju_ | ../../../../../ |
| 18:18.27 | mindjuju_ | i think my next password will be asci art |
| 18:18.46 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: that could be a good choice |
| 18:19.17 | ninnypants | also paypal blocks copy and paste so if you're using a password manager you still have to type it in |
| 18:19.35 | mindjuju_ | curiously, mine works with paypal |
| 18:19.39 | mindjuju_ | lastpass.com |
| 18:20.03 | SunSparc | ninnypants: PayPal apparently does not know a good password when it sees one. |
| 18:20.20 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: What is wrong with asking about company history? |
| 18:20.29 | SunSparc | Sounds like he was doing some due diligence. |
| 18:20.51 | SunSparc | I would not want to walk into an employment trap. |
| 18:21.22 | SunSparc | Kudos to him for actually being interested. |
| 18:21.30 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: it gave me trouble when generating one for a new account |
| 18:22.02 | SunSparc | ninnypants: I hear that system admins use "god" for their password. |
| 18:22.25 | mindjuju_ | personally, i think there are good ways to approach, but to outright come out and say stuff, for us, not a profressional way of doing things |
| 18:23.50 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: I guess I do not understand. How would you have had him approach it? Read your mind? Wait until he is employed and hang around the water cooler? |
| 18:24.56 | mindjuju_ | hope your not taking this personal |
| 18:26.01 | mindjuju_ | there are good ways to bring up something and there are bad ways to bring up something. he brought up an important topic in a bad way |
| 18:26.50 | mindjuju_ | and like i say, we literally sell hundreds of thousands of items every year, some people are going to be displeased, that's an unfortuante thing |
| 18:26.56 | SunSparc | Heh, no, nothing personal, I am just curious. Seems like an interesting topic. |
| 18:27.09 | mindjuju_ | like people, our company comprised of people make mistakes too |
| 18:27.32 | mindjuju_ | but if coder a approaches coder b and says, what the heck are you coding that app that way. that's weird |
| 18:27.45 | mindjuju_ | what options has he left coder b to respond? |
| 18:30.23 | SunSparc | I guess I would have needed to be there to see why it struck a nerve with you. |
| 18:30.36 | fungus | job interviews shouldn't be adversarial. You description of what he said sounds like he was being adversarial. |
| 18:31.39 | mindjuju_ | you know, you bring up a good point fungus, and there too another great example |
| 18:31.58 | mindjuju_ | i probably should express my frutration with you about SOS hiring process when a pplying for a job on your team |
| 18:32.05 | mindjuju_ | you've literally have nothing to do with that process |
| 18:32.18 | fungus | exactly. |
| 18:32.40 | mindjuju_ | me, about the most i interact with clients is answering the door at 6p and explaining the office is closed and we only do orders online |
| 18:32.43 | fungus | Better questions would be about company culture, goals, mission statement, etc. |
| 18:33.01 | mindjuju_ | yup |
| 18:34.21 | fungus | researching info about customer reviews, BBB status, etc are good things, and should be considered, but don't ask about them in an interview. |
| 18:35.19 | mindjuju_ | true that |
| 18:35.43 | SunSparc | Oh, ok, so it was a bad idea for him bring negative review up with you because you are not directly involved with the products that were reviewed. Correct? |
| 18:36.03 | SunSparc | Or was it more his attitude and demeanor? |
| 18:36.44 | mindjuju_ | so it'd be both with a little more of what fungus and I are expressing. it's not really the right place for that |
| 18:37.11 | mindjuju_ | for me, at least, it is like this |
| 18:38.13 | mindjuju_ | Kate Malooney is an Ernst and Young entrepreneur of the year |
| 18:38.22 | mindjuju_ | i knew that coming into my first interview |
| 18:38.31 | mindjuju_ | they had recently made the inc 500 list |
| 18:38.48 | mindjuju_ | i knew all the good things, and mentioned i REALLY wanted to be part of THAT team |
| 18:38.57 | mindjuju_ | the companies i saw that had issues, i didn't even bother with |
| 18:39.48 | mindjuju_ | maybe i'm too snooty, but i just don't see that as professional |
| 18:39.58 | mindjuju_ | bringing up company faults |
| 18:41.20 | fungus | SunSparc, 1. Don't ask questions that can't be answered 2. Don't put the interviewer on the defensive by making them uncomfortable. 3. Don't use limited hearsay as evidence to color your opinions about a company. |
| 18:42.47 | mindjuju_ | that's much better worded than my response and exactly so |
| 18:43.28 | SunSparc | fungus: I like that. |
| 18:43.36 | fungus | Do ask about company history, culture, etc. Do generate good rapport to get good honest answers. Do consider all evidence and weigh it's relevance. |
| 18:44.23 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: I am with you. If I read bad reviews about a company and for some reason that puts questions into my mind, that company is scratched off my list. |
| 18:53.53 | mindjuju_ | yup :) |
| 18:54.37 | mindjuju_ | so has everybody noticed the OpenWest Conference Videos are posting? https://www.youtube.com/user/utahopensource |
| 19:14.01 | stevecoug | mindjuju_: they're also available from the schedule grid |
| 19:14.11 | stevecoug | you can see which ones have videos by the icon on the grid |
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| 22:05.05 | mindjuju_ | ninnypants - how i learned to stop worrying and love the drones MAN IN SPEEDO warning - course, you work at home http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/15/dance-company-incorporates-drones-into-performance |
| 22:06.01 | TuxToaster | http://cl.ly/image/46382l2f1Q1E |
| 22:07.25 | mindjuju_ | classic :) |
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| 22:11.12 | ninnypants | anyone see the "Are women that seek the priesthood greater than god?" letter to the editor in the Daily Herald? |
| 22:13.04 | mindjuju_ | nope |
| 22:13.22 | mindjuju_ | but i did see that people in Gaza are paying $30 delivery charge for Kentucky Fried Chicken |
| 22:13.32 | ninnypants | seemed like the person who wrote it was kind of crazy |
| 22:13.36 | mindjuju_ | http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/05/16/buckets-of-kfc-chicken-smuggled-through-tunnel-in-gaza-strip-for-30/ |
| 22:13.37 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: lol |
| 22:13.41 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: that's some expensive chicken |
| 22:13.45 | mindjuju_ | d00d, i can't even make this stuff up |
| 22:13.50 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 22:14.17 | mindjuju_ | reminds me of a certain episode of South Park |
| 22:15.54 | mindjuju_ | i can see it now, flat rail car with mortars, RPGs and there on top, your bucket of extra crispy |
| 22:16.20 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: That image reminds me of the iPad cutting board. |
| 22:17.38 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 22:17.47 | fungus | ninnypants, lol @daily herald |
| 22:18.34 | ninnypants | fungus: yeah that letter was a little bonus that I got after buying the paper to clip the open west article |
| 22:18.58 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Was it as silly as it sounds? |
| 22:19.06 | fungus | that paper is a total joke. |
| 22:19.13 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:19.20 | fungus | That article is one example of many. |
| 22:19.55 | mindjuju_ | ninnypants, icanhaslink? |
| 22:20.00 | ninnypants | SunSparc: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/opinion/mailbag/are-women-that-seek-the-priesthood-greater-than-god/article_ef43212e-cf29-5567-b3b0-31d4f951ce3d.html |
| 22:20.03 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: ^^ |
| 22:20.57 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Wow. |
| 22:21.21 | TuxToaster | http://xkcd.com/1210/ |
| 22:23.32 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: :) |
| 22:26.02 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:26.03 | raifbot | holds shanemhansen to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 22:26.21 | shanemhansen | Woah, we only just met. |
| 22:26.34 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 22:44.18 | stevecoug | anyone here from needle? |
| 22:45.40 | ninnypants | stevecoug: probably not since they're a ruby shop |
| 22:46.27 | stevecoug | oh, okay |
| 22:46.34 | stevecoug | that's where the UPHPU meeting is tonight, right? |
| 22:46.39 | ninnypants | yep |
| 22:48.12 | stevecoug | I was hoping they could provide an HDMI monitor, so I didn't have to lug one up there |
| 22:48.22 | stevecoug | I'm going to play with the Atem TVS tonight :) |
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| 23:03.48 | mindjuju_ | see, i've been calling it the ATEM the whole time, not TVS |
| 23:04.17 | mindjuju_ | so when you called it tvs i was seeing tv(plural) and i'm all thinking, what tvs? |
| 23:05.38 | mindjuju_ | oh you're prolly not there anymore because you're headed up here |
| 23:05.42 | mindjuju_ | i better get everything ready |
| 23:09.29 | SunSparc | ~get mindjuju_ ready |
| 23:09.29 | ibot | ACTION fetches mindjuju_ ready |
| 23:14.47 | mindjuju_ | all ready now :) |
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| 23:36.32 | Heartsbane | carmony: why did you use NANO in your Salt Presentation |
| 23:36.36 | Heartsbane | TAINTED |
| 23:36.40 | Heartsbane | OMG |
| 23:36.46 | Heartsbane | I k33l u |
| 23:36.50 | Heartsbane | :) |
| 23:38.03 | peno | Heartsbane: nano is awsum! |
| 23:39.44 | Heartsbane | peno: shaddup |
| 23:39.49 | peno | :) |
| 23:40.11 | herlo | heh |