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| 17:57.13 | ninnypants_ | mgeary: yeah but I wouldn't be surprised if it still happens outside Stack Overflow |
| 17:57.51 | ninnypants_ | I found a piece of paper someone was using to transport javascript the other day |
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| 18:36.59 | SunSparc | ninnypants_: lol, that is a funny image. And I am sure stackoverflow community would not have allowed that to happen, so I agree with mgeary. |
| 18:37.32 | mgeary | it was the "-1. Not enough jQuery" that tipped it for me ;) |
| 18:37.54 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:38.42 | SunSparc | ninnypants_: Was the piece of paper part of someone's code? Maybe at certain times the code prompts the user to take care of the arithmetic since making a computer do arithmetic is very challenging. |
| 18:45.49 | DexterTheDragon | I think it was actually on stackoverflow, and it was a joke at javascript answers on SO always being jquery |
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| 18:48.43 | SunSparc | Funny |
| 18:48.57 | ninnypan_ | SunSparc: nope no arithmetic that I could see https://gist.github.com/ninnypants/5560201 |
| 18:49.44 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:00.40 | ninnypan_ | josephscott: you can start sending around the WP 10th anniversary if you want |
| 20:00.50 | josephscott | cool, just saw the email |
| 20:01.53 | ninnypan_ | yeah one should have gone out from the normal mailing list and from meetup |
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| 21:51.16 | mindjuju | anybody here know anything about cell phone sim cards? |
| 21:54.46 | jsmith | mindjuju: Too much -- why? |
| 21:58.34 | stirlingw | mrmist- [Global Notice] Sadly the DDoS attacks are still ongoing and that it is affecting major parts of our infrastructure resulting in timeouts and loss of some service (at least, but not limited to webchat, support ticket system and hidden tor service). A special thank you to our sponsors, whom we love so much. ♥ |
| 21:58.36 | stirlingw | nice |
| 21:59.22 | herlo | mindjuju: whatcha wanna know? I'm getting me some net10 ones this week. :) |
| 21:59.57 | herlo | stirlingw: it's rather annoying, tbh. Damned idiots... |
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| 22:23.33 | mindjuju | herlo, i found it. sims don't work on the cdma network like the one verizon has, my boss was asking me to bring her my sim card |
| 22:23.53 | herlo | lol |
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| 23:44.22 | mindjuju | herlo, you still around? |
| 23:44.47 | mindjuju | i want to talk som rpm theory or jsmith if you're around |
| 23:44.59 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm here |
| 23:45.09 | herlo | rpm isn't theory though. :) |
| 23:45.33 | mindjuju | k, so i'm installing Zenoss, now i see that here are some steps i can take to install it http://community.zenoss.org/community/download |
| 23:45.43 | mindjuju | but just on a whim, i decided to try the ole yum search zenoss |
| 23:45.47 | mindjuju | and sure enough it's there |
| 23:45.52 | herlo | yup |
| 23:46.09 | herlo | mindjuju: do a 'yum list '*zenoss*' and see what you git |
| 23:46.11 | herlo | er get |
| 23:46.58 | mindjuju | looks like it is already installed |
| 23:47.20 | herlo | are there any other zenoss plugins or what not? |
| 23:48.07 | mindjuju | you know, i'm not sure |
| 23:48.18 | mindjuju | i started this project a while back, don't have notes on where i left off |
| 23:48.44 | mindjuju | i don't think i got very far as i don't have documentation on it |
| 23:48.55 | herlo | mindjuju: when you did the yum list command above, it should have listed everythign |
| 23:49.23 | mindjuju | http://screencast.com/t/cKwuZaNrY51 |
| 23:49.35 | herlo | okay, just the one |
| 23:49.50 | herlo | or because you used the zenoss repos |
| 23:49.54 | mindjuju | mna, i need a better way to document server stuff |
| 23:50.03 | herlo | mindjuju: wikis are nice :) |
| 23:50.08 | herlo | also, script is your friend |
| 23:51.51 | mindjuju | yeah, i seem to recall yum install |
| 23:52.11 | mindjuju | so if i installed it all manually, it wouldn't be here like this, the components would, like httpd, but not zenoss |
| 23:52.25 | herlo | right |
| 23:52.57 | mindjuju | i seem to recall a convo we had where you suggested rpm is better than installing individually because of updates, etc |
| 23:53.09 | mindjuju | it makes management easier, i think you said |
| 23:53.22 | mindjuju | do i remember right, or am i way off? |
| 23:53.45 | mindjuju | course, i think it was more RPM v Make |
| 23:53.58 | mindjuju | instead of RPM v install piecemeal |
| 23:54.05 | herlo | rpm is simpler, yes |
| 23:54.33 | mindjuju | k |
| 23:54.39 | mindjuju | thx for your help :) |
| 23:55.00 | herlo | http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy |
| 23:55.02 | herlo | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 23:55.37 | herlo | it's a really interesting talk about the important difference between what 'easy' and 'simple' mean. |
| 23:56.02 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:56.26 | herlo | mindjuju: I was surprised at how he explained it |
| 23:56.30 | herlo | it's really neat |
| 23:58.32 | mindjuju | less is more; simple made easy, there is still much to learn |
| 23:58.53 | herlo | hehe |
| 23:58.57 | herlo | simple is not easy |
| 23:59.11 | herlo | ease of use is usually provided by simple constructs |
| 23:59.53 | mindjuju | mike adams was mentioning that guru labs was hiring, i thought about it for a moment, if for nothing else, it'd be nice to be trained proper then i too could run around with all the answers |