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| 15:08.38 | mindjuju | O.o |
| 15:11.02 | ninnypants | I feel the need to use this on a project now http://theonion.github.io/fartscroll.js/ |
| 15:16.32 | mindjuju | you should have a UPHPU on it |
| 15:16.34 | mindjuju | carmony^^ |
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| 15:19.46 | ninnypants | mindjuju: you should set it up on costume craze but only have it work when it's an employee that is signed in |
| 15:20.14 | josephscott | ninnypants: everything still good for the WP get together on the 27th? |
| 15:20.55 | ninnypants | josephscott: yeah I've got to call and pay for the room still but everything is good |
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| 15:21.43 | josephscott | ninnypants: ok, I was going to start spreading the word soon, want to make sure we actually have the room :-) |
| 15:22.27 | ninnypants | josephscott: how many do you think we'll have come I was thinking maybe 30 |
| 15:22.30 | ninnypants | more? |
| 15:23.14 | josephscott | not sure exactly, would be nice to have more |
| 15:23.21 | josephscott | how many are listed on the meetup page already? |
| 15:23.40 | ninnypants | josephscott: 7 |
| 15:23.48 | ninnypants | http://www.meetup.com/WordPress/Salt-Lake-City-UT/930892/ |
| 15:23.51 | josephscott | ok, that is a start |
| 15:24.04 | ninnypants | but that's ok I don't want to push until I have one last thing figured out |
| 15:24.15 | josephscott | what is that? |
| 15:26.31 | herlo | ninnypants: so you 'pay' for a meetup.com account? |
| 15:26.43 | ninnypants | herlo: yep |
| 15:27.03 | herlo | ninnypants: why? Is it really worth it? |
| 15:27.19 | ninnypants | herlo: seems to be we've had more people come out to meetings |
| 15:27.38 | ninnypants | and it takes care of some advertising for me |
| 15:27.51 | herlo | ninnypants: hmm. I've been considering it for UtahPython, is why I ask |
| 15:27.51 | josephscott | the WP Foundation will pay for WP meetup accounts |
| 15:30.53 | ninnypants | herlo: utos has a meetup account that is open for LUG organizers to be a member of and have the ability to post events |
| 15:31.20 | ninnypants | herlo: http://www.meetup.com/Utah-Open-Source/ |
| 15:31.54 | ninnypants | the only LUG using it currently is PLUG |
| 15:32.13 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 15:33.06 | mindjuju | this is funny - How To Be: Daniel Radcliffe // Bad Teeth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlG5KCwKGEE |
| 15:34.13 | mindjuju | herlo, UTOS has an account and we're allowing people to use it |
| 15:34.16 | mindjuju | like PLUG |
| 15:34.46 | herlo | mindjuju: allowing them to use it? Like inviting people 'through' utos? |
| 15:34.59 | herlo | I'm not following... |
| 15:35.25 | mindjuju | like you can post your events on Meetup |
| 15:35.29 | mindjuju | on our account |
| 15:35.30 | herlo | why not just support the groups and let them have their own. I don't necessarily mind the UTOS meetup group |
| 15:35.46 | mgeary | hey, why might i be getting a "mail for foo.com loops back to myself" error from postfix when the domain has nothing to do with the sending machine |
| 15:35.58 | herlo | but I don't know that people will follow the UTOS group for python meetups |
| 15:36.18 | herlo | mgeary: common misconfiguration of your mydomain |
| 15:36.32 | mgeary | herlo: mydestination = $myhostname,localhost.$mydomain,localhost |
| 15:36.33 | mindjuju | herlo, there is a lot of commonality in the open source community |
| 15:36.41 | mindjuju | we encourage crossover |
| 15:36.43 | herlo | mgeary: yeah... |
| 15:36.49 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm not arguing that |
| 15:36.52 | mindjuju | and then, there is the $$ aspect of it |
| 15:37.17 | herlo | in fact, I'm completely fine with it. It's just that if I were a new python user and I didn't know about UTOS, how would I find out about the meetup.com group? |
| 15:37.43 | herlo | mindjuju: the $$ is not that much from what I recall. I was almost willing to pay for it myself. |
| 15:37.46 | mindjuju | our profile includes it as a keyword? (at least i think it does, we could always add it) |
| 15:38.15 | herlo | mindjuju: let me put it another way. I think I'd prefer to pay for a separate account. |
| 15:38.25 | mindjuju | ok? |
| 15:38.34 | mindjuju | i'm not sure if we're arguing or talking |
| 15:38.47 | mindjuju | but if you want to use ours, you're more than welcome |
| 15:38.54 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:38.55 | ninnypants | mindjuju: it doesn't actually seem to have python as a key word |
| 15:39.03 | herlo | being associated with UTOS is a nice bonus, but it doesn't seem like we would attract more than open source folks to the python community. I want to work it both ways.... |
| 15:40.19 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm arguing 'nicely' :) |
| 15:40.28 | herlo | just trying to get what I see is the best way... |
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| 15:43.44 | mindjuju | so herlo, there are 11 communities we are working with to help sponsor. at $70 a year per group, that's just about $800 for advertising them, no pizza, no anything else, just advertise |
| 15:44.01 | mindjuju | i'm just trying to be careful and spread the money as best as possible |
| 15:44.04 | mindjuju | and keep the conf going |
| 15:44.33 | mindjuju | if i can cut one corner and get them near the same benefit and provide additional resource in the process, i see this as win-win |
| 15:44.59 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I just joined the UTOS meetup group, can you give me access to post OALUG events? |
| 15:45.05 | herlo | mindjuju: only if all of them take advantage of the benefit |
| 15:45.13 | mindjuju | DtD, absolutely |
| 15:45.22 | herlo | mindjuju: pm |
| 15:53.01 | mindjuju | DtD -- you now have access |
| 15:53.08 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: cool thanks |
| 15:53.09 | mindjuju | herlo -- you now have access |
| 15:53.42 | herlo | mindjuju: thx |
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| 16:04.08 | mindjuju | fozz just released another OpenWest 2013 preso -- we'll announce it later this week or next to the whole audience, but we just wanted a few in the queue before the announcement |
| 16:04.10 | mindjuju | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eQjEMs2kbf4 |
| 16:08.26 | herlo | I sure hope that youtube encodes these in webm soon |
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| 16:19.07 | stirlingw | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14994391/how-do-i-think-in-angularjs-if-i-have-a-jquery-background/15012542#15012542 Wow... this is an awesome stack overflow |
| 16:24.06 | herlo | if you say so |
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| 17:41.29 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
| 17:41.30 | ibot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking linagee's head off |
| 17:41.36 | hhatfield | $rlart |
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| 19:46.55 | hhatfield | $8ball if we, by majority vote, declare it friday, will our bosses fire us for not showing up tomorrow? |
| 19:46.55 | raifbot | hhatfield - Very doubtful. |
| 19:47.20 | hhatfield | I propose we declare it friday |
| 19:47.38 | fungus | $8ball will they use some other form of punishment? |
| 19:47.39 | raifbot | fungus - Don't count on it. |
| 19:47.58 | fungus | $8ball sanctions? |
| 19:47.59 | raifbot | fungus - My reply is no. |
| 19:48.11 | fungus | $8ball disapproval? |
| 19:48.12 | romanovic | $8ball are you trying to get us fired? |
| 19:48.12 | raifbot | fungus - Yes - definitely. |
| 19:48.12 | raifbot | romanovic - My reply is no. |
| 19:49.37 | fungus | $8ball Is disapproval worth taking tomorrow off? |
| 19:49.38 | raifbot | fungus - Most likely. |
| 19:49.50 | fungus | w00t |
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| 20:03.02 | mgeary | fungus: can you confirm i cannot make symlinked files available to a chrooted sftp user? |
| 20:03.07 | mgeary | that's an unfortunate limitation |
| 20:04.17 | fungus | it can be unfortunate, yes. But that's kind of the point of chroot. To change root and prevent escaping to get data from the outer root. |
| 20:04.57 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:05.05 | mgeary | would making it a hard link make a difference? |
| 20:05.11 | fungus | yes |
| 20:05.17 | mgeary | any reason not to do that? |
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| 20:05.41 | fungus | depends on how the file is accessed. |
| 20:06.10 | mgeary | i'm just making nightly database backups available to a limited sftp user for retrieval to an offsite backup |
| 20:06.11 | fungus | If a user deletes the file first, then uploads a replacement, it is no longer linked to the original. |
| 20:06.33 | mgeary | the user won't be uploading anything |
| 20:06.50 | fungus | read-only, then yeah, no big deal at all. |
| 20:06.51 | mgeary | my script will remove the latest_db.gz file |
| 20:06.55 | mgeary | and make a new one nightly |
| 20:18.15 | jnbek | me?? waddle??!?! LOL |
| 20:18.47 | jnbek | s/that/the/ |
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| 21:04.21 | mindjuju | so DtD, how much was the water heater? |
| 21:06.29 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I don't know the final number but around $650 |
| 21:06.37 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 21:06.41 | mindjuju | i'm sorry |
| 21:07.13 | mindjuju | do you by chance have an amazon wishlist? |
| 21:07.30 | DexterTheDragon | lots of them :) |
| 21:09.14 | mindjuju | DtD, under what email addy, i don't think you've sent me anything directly (via email) |
| 21:09.32 | mindjuju | oh wait, i see it now |
| 21:11.32 | mindjuju | DtD -> PM |
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| 21:58.25 | mindjuju | so fungus, quick bash question |
| 21:59.37 | mindjuju | if i have a file that has a time on the first line (like 16:00), so that nothing else was in the file, just 16:00, i should be able to assign that to a variable in bash and compare it to the current system time and tell how far apart it is from current time, can't i? |
| 22:00.18 | mindjuju | from what i can see in google, looks like it shoudl be possible |
| 22:04.10 | mindjuju | looks like i can do cat fileWithTime.txt | xargs processingScript.sh |
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| 22:24.23 | fungus | mindjuju, to assign that value to a bash variable it would be done with backticks or the $() operation |
| 22:24.37 | fungus | filetime=$(cat file) |
| 22:27.23 | fungus | your method would work if you wanted it as an argument to your script, but requires you to call it like that. Using the variable assignment inside the script might be better. |
| 22:34.41 | mindjuju | i'll try it that way fungus, thx! |
| 22:40.37 | fungus | mindjuju, shortcut, tiny bit faster: filetime=$(<file) |
| 23:23.22 | mgeary | ninnypants: ping |
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| 23:57.21 | mgeary | anyone here know of a local place/way to get a really cheap unlocked mobile phone that would work on European frequencies? |
| 23:57.36 | mgeary | i've got an ATT R225, but it appears that won't work in Europe |
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