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| 17:13.07 | SunSparc | Is it really Thursday again already? |
| 17:13.22 | SunSparc | ibot: Is today Thursday already? |
| 17:13.43 | SunSparc | ~Thursday |
| 17:13.43 | ibot | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 18:24.23 | mgeary | bah |
| 18:24.35 | mgeary | so, IE complaining when a SSL site loads non-SSL content I can understand |
| 18:24.47 | mgeary | but it complaining when a non-SSL site loads SSL content is just obnoxious |
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| 18:50.12 | Skinner | Does anyone have any perspective on the "Comma last formatting"? |
| 18:50.27 | Skinner | I've seen it in code here and there, but don't quite understand it's benefits |
| 18:50.37 | Skinner | I've seen it more in Javascript tho |
| 18:52.33 | mgeary | i don't even know what you mean |
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| 18:56.02 | beandog | buenos |
| 18:59.07 | Skinner | Example: http://pastebin.com/8LFgPyKV |
| 18:59.49 | Skinner | I may be off on the name |
| 18:59.58 | Skinner | "comma last formatting" might be something different |
| 19:00.59 | Skinner | the commas at the start of the line is what I'm wondering about |
| 19:01.11 | mgeary | oh, that |
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| 19:01.34 | mgeary | i think it's silly. You're saving 2 characters and, IMO, losing some readability |
| 19:01.42 | mgeary | i welcome counterarguments |
| 19:02.00 | mgeary | but i'm referring that that method of assignment, not whether the comma is first or last |
| 19:02.17 | mgeary | comma first makes it easier to comment out a given line |
| 19:07.44 | beandog | that is confusing. |
| 19:08.04 | beandog | it'd make sense if it was a period instead |
| 19:08.06 | beandog | but not a comma |
| 19:08.10 | beandog | imho |
| 19:08.17 | mgeary | well, i don't agree with the period |
| 19:08.22 | mgeary | but i don't see why you don't just do: |
| 19:08.27 | mgeary | var a = foo |
| 19:08.29 | mgeary | var b = foo |
| 19:08.30 | mgeary | ... |
| 19:08.37 | mgeary | clearer, imo |
| 19:12.11 | Skinner | ok good. Those are some of the same thoughts I have. I glad I'm not alone in my thinking. |
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| 20:44.57 | TuxToaster | grr. So I'm having issues being at the conference to record the presentations because of a crisis at work |
| 20:46.02 | TuxToaster | I could possibly swing by and let someone borrow my camera to record the afternoon sessions... |
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| 20:55.40 | herlo | you should |
| 20:55.45 | herlo | do eeet! |
| 20:58.53 | TuxToaster | if I can break away for a few... unfortunately stuck at the moment trying to help a guy test something that he hasn't fixed since yesterday. |
| 20:59.25 | TuxToaster | NOT happy about this, since I specifically arranged to be out today and tomorrow. :( |
| 21:02.01 | beandog | Has anyone seen Iron Man yet |
| 21:02.59 | fungus | not yet. was going tomorrow, but at OpenWest instead. |
| 21:03.07 | beandog | bueno |
| 21:03.13 | beandog | How is openwest going |
| 21:03.24 | fungus | tons of fun |
| 21:03.53 | beandog | :) |
| 21:04.05 | beandog | you guys should have a mass exodus to Popeye's for some chicken |
| 21:04.32 | fungus | nah, no thanks. |
| 21:08.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju would |
| 21:12.07 | beandog | I think this deserves a new catchphrase. |
| 21:12.15 | beandog | mindjuju would go popeyes for that. |
| 21:15.44 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 21:15.44 | ibot | hmm... mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals, or listens to celine dijon. DJ Nerd Magic, or can't tell toast from a pop-tart, or can beat a viper in a sedan, or a brony, or the music master |
| 21:22.00 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:30.30 | beandog | MySQL needs a motd file |
| 21:43.48 | Skinner | Binary question from my brother: |
| 21:43.56 | Skinner | why can there be only 8 slots and not say 10 or 12 |
| 21:44.02 | Skinner | when referring to octets |
| 21:45.32 | Skinner | How would you answer the question: "Why is an octet 8 bits?" |
| 21:45.42 | Skinner | was it a hardware restriction? |
| 21:46.19 | fungus | because 2^3 = 8 |
| 21:46.28 | fungus | there is no power of two that = 10 or 12 |
| 21:46.28 | beandog | that's what I was thinking |
| 21:46.56 | beandog | two cubed |
| 21:47.07 | fungus | That's why 8 and 16 are popular sizes. |
| 21:50.45 | Skinner | makes sense |
| 21:50.50 | Skinner | fungus++ |
| 21:50.53 | Skinner | beandog++ |
| 21:56.11 | SunSparc | Seems like soft drinks follow the same model. |
| 21:56.57 | beandog | I wonder ... if I create a php.ini file with only the options I want to be configured, will it just load the same defaults in the original php.ini? |
| 21:58.17 | beandog | time for an experiment |
| 21:58.45 | beandog | on a randomly chosen production server |
| 21:58.59 | fungus | IMHO, it should. |
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| 21:59.41 | fungus | on debian/buntu packages it searches a conf.d dir that can be useful for putting customizations. |
| 22:01.49 | beandog | yah when you compile it, you can give it a directory to scan for ini files during runtime |
| 22:02.18 | fungus | Yup, that's nice too. |
| 22:03.25 | fungus | But i agree, the approach to only included changed configs be listed in the config file is a good one. I use it especially with Postfix and Bind. |
| 22:04.12 | beandog | really? postfix does that? |
| 22:04.13 | beandog | that's awesome. |
| 22:04.33 | fungus | oh yeah. my postfix configs are tiny |
| 22:05.15 | beandog | I wanna see one |
| 22:08.45 | fungus | I can't share if you leave... |
| 22:10.06 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 22:15.38 | fungus | beandog: http://paste2.org/5JBM5vX3 |
| 22:16.01 | beandog | Oy, magic quotes is on by default? |
| 22:16.03 | beandog | still? |
| 22:16.37 | beandog | fungus: nice, I'm jealous |
| 22:17.00 | beandog | fungus: check this out, I found the other day: http://www.mail-tester.com/ |
| 22:17.34 | fungus | that could be nice. |
| 22:17.56 | fungus | Though if you have to ask if your email looks spammy, it probably is. |
| 22:18.16 | beandog | Hmm ... there's not a LOT ... but there's between 12 and 20 that Ubuntu's CLI one changes from defaults |
| 22:18.21 | beandog | if that many |
| 22:19.02 | jsmith | beandog: You coming to our waffle celebration tonight at 10:00pm at the Belgian Waffle? |
| 22:19.18 | beandog | waffle celebration? |
| 22:19.24 | beandog | I approve already. |
| 22:22.02 | shalkie | Does that include the Lurkers? |
| 22:22.07 | jsmith | beandog: Absolutely -- we've missed you at the last several |
| 22:22.09 | jsmith | shalkie: Absolutely! |
| 22:22.43 | beandog | jsmith: yah ... I just might. I think I'm gonna hit up Iron Man first, tho |
| 22:23.32 | jsmith | beandog: Cool |
| 22:26.20 | mahelious | driving around at 10p does not sound awesome, but waffles do. |
| 22:26.41 | mahelious | think i might have to make some at home, join in spirit sorta |
| 22:26.43 | herlo | mahelious: you only have to drive to one place and back. It's not driving *around* |
| 22:26.50 | herlo | :D |
| 22:27.20 | herlo | jsmith: save some seats for me, Jenny and AJ plz |
| 22:27.31 | herlo | we'll likely be there earlier than 10 tho |
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| 22:28.59 | mahelious | herlo: i would have to drive around a mountain. 40 minutes each way anyhow. |
| 22:31.02 | herlo | mahelious: so |
| 22:31.08 | herlo | it's not that bad... |
| 22:31.25 | herlo | plus, you only do this one time a year, so it's totally worth it for hanging out with cool people. :) |
| 22:31.46 | herlo | oh, and that jsmith guy, he's bad news, too. |
| 22:31.55 | herlo | then there's that beandog, avoid him... |
| 22:32.00 | mahelious | it certainly is tempting |
| 22:32.07 | herlo | oh, wait. In other words, never mind, don't come. :D |
| 22:32.12 | herlo | we all suck! :D |
| 22:32.30 | beandog | wat |
| 22:32.35 | herlo | well, except beandog and jsmith. They are awesome. But then I'm contradicting myself. :D |
| 22:32.41 | herlo | beandog: lol |
| 22:40.55 | beandog | Is it time for Oreos yet? I have to stay on schedule. |
| 22:41.03 | beandog | I haven't had a sugar rush yet today. |
| 22:47.56 | mahelious | i found a new bread recipe i think i have to try. take a quart of ice cream, melt, mix with flour until it makes a firm dough. bake for 2 hours at 175F |
| 22:48.01 | mahelious | ice cream bread |
| 22:48.21 | Skinner | mahelious: That sounds.....kinda kewl |
| 22:48.43 | beandog | mahelious: make enough for everyone when you come tonight |
| 22:48.45 | Skinner | i want to try oreo ice cream bread |
| 22:49.23 | mahelious | http://www.breyers.com/product/detail/113865/oreo-cookies-cream |
| 22:49.30 | mahelious | mhm |
| 22:49.58 | mahelious | or samoa cookies ice cream bread |
| 22:50.03 | Skinner | aw yeah |
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| 23:36.19 | beandog | ~lart internal shell commands with no man page |
| 23:36.19 | ibot | makes a balloon animal out of internal shell commands with no man page |
| 23:43.34 | beandog | openwest is paying for waffles tonight? |
| 23:43.57 | beandog | does that mean I can have extra butter? |
| 23:44.08 | beandog | usually these places are so stingy |