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| 15:11.49 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 15:11.49 | raifbot | wallops optikal with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long. |
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| 15:21.50 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: https://deejers.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/how-the-pros-play-live/ |
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| 15:31.10 | mindjuju | thx for the link DtD! i've always wondered what their gear looked like |
| 15:33.22 | mindjuju | funny you should ask, i've been running through music in prep for May 2nd - 4th |
| 15:33.39 | mindjuju | i need some more lasers though for the business office |
| 15:33.45 | mindjuju | ;) |
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| 15:35.23 | UtahDave | mindjuju: I want to go with you to be the first people in line when the Popeyes opens in Lehi. Are you down? |
| 15:35.35 | mindjuju | when does it open? |
| 15:35.45 | mindjuju | i thought it was mid march, but then i heard no |
| 15:35.57 | UtahDave | Not sure yet. The building is up, but there's still a fair amount to do. |
| 15:37.56 | mindjuju | somebody mentinoed mid april, but well see :) |
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| 16:33.24 | Skinner1 | ~seen mahelious |
| 16:33.32 | ibot | mahelious <~mahelious@ip65-46-59-10.z59-46-65.customer.algx.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 3d 20h 10m 3s ago, saying: 'and a pinata. there are never enough opportunities to pull out a pinata.'. |
| 16:34.51 | clintberry | @carmony sorry, inappropriate tweet at you :-) Just with all the Python dongle stuff that went down, I couldn't help myself... |
| 16:42.17 | fungus | <beavis>heh heh, he said dongle.</beavis> |
| 16:42.45 | herlo | fungus: oh, don't let someone at PyCon hear you say that. You might get fired! |
| 16:42.59 | fungus | lol, no kidding. |
| 16:43.43 | mindjuju | i think there is already a beavis btw |
| 16:43.48 | mindjuju | ~beavis fungus |
| 16:44.05 | mindjuju | well, there was, cause i wrote it |
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| 17:36.11 | carmony | clintberry: lol, its all good :P |
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| 19:09.10 | poeticintensity | hey-o. |
| 19:09.11 | poeticintensity | ~morning |
| 19:09.11 | ibot | Good morning! |
| 19:09.16 | poeticintensity | ~afternoon |
| 19:09.23 | poeticintensity | ~buenas tardes |
| 19:09.46 | poeticintensity | anyone caring to critique a site, feel free to do so at http://artcitysound.com |
| 19:09.53 | poeticintensity | it's my new studio's site. |
| 19:09.56 | poeticintensity | so there. |
| 19:10.06 | poeticintensity | man, this place is CRACKIN' today!@ |
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| 19:49.04 | tierra | poeticintensity: good work keeping the pages loading dynamically so the audio player up top can actually be used while browsing, heh... so many people don't realize that they broke that |
| 19:49.31 | poeticintensity | :) Yeah... That was a fun one. |
| 19:49.33 | tierra | hopefully this is just on a dev server though... really slow page response with no indication that I clicked links |
| 19:49.36 | poeticintensity | thanks, tierra |
| 19:50.00 | poeticintensity | yup... I've gotta get a "loading" indicator there, for sure. |
| 19:50.12 | poeticintensity | Being a recording studio, the "radio" widget is pretty important. |
| 19:50.37 | poeticintensity | thanks for the feedback, tierra |
| 19:52.14 | tierra | the 3-column footer part doesn't really feel very separated from the page content either... initially, I started looking through it like it was part of that specific page while trying to associate the content there with the History page (the first one I hit up) even though I knew in the back of my head I saw it on the front page too, heh |
| 19:53.02 | tierra | white-space + headers just don't seem quite there yet for a nice natural flow... not sure how to describe it |
| 19:53.11 | tierra | specifically with that footer I mean |
| 19:53.55 | poeticintensity | gotcha... great feedback, dude... Thank you. |
| 19:54.02 | poeticintensity | you're the 2nd person to note that. |
| 19:54.12 | tierra | yw |
| 19:58.28 | tierra | poeticintensity: congratz on the studio btw, I remember hearing about you building that a while back |
| 19:58.34 | tierra | looks pretty slick |
| 20:02.25 | DexterTheDragon | poeticintensity: look into the history api/pushstate if you're going to be loading the pages dynamically |
| 20:03.11 | tierra | ah, yeah, I didn't check that |
| 20:03.41 | tierra | I've seen some good JS libs for that somewhere around too |
| 20:03.45 | DexterTheDragon | https://github.com/browserstate/history.js |
| 20:04.02 | tierra | that could very easily be one of them ;) |
| 20:06.01 | poeticintensity | thanks, tierra! Yeah, it's been quite a ride. |
| 20:06.17 | poeticintensity | hmm.... history api... |
| 20:06.23 | poeticintensity | thanks DexterTheDragon |
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| 20:24.39 | stirlingw | There is no right and wrong. There's only fun and boring. |
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| 20:28.04 | clondon | Anyone here have experience with Propel and Zend Framework 2? |
| 20:30.21 | tierra | oh, wow... ZF2 actually hit release? |
| 20:30.32 | clondon | yeah a couple months ago |
| 20:30.33 | tierra | heh |
| 20:31.13 | tierra | I've looked into it in the past... sometime around the beta releases |
| 20:31.44 | tierra | but it really didn't look any cleaner or anywhere near as usable as many other frameworks still |
| 20:31.46 | clondon | yeah supposedly they fixed their performance issues... I guess I'm going to see |
| 20:32.06 | tierra | looked just as (if not more) terrible than ZF1 for API and especially performance |
| 20:33.19 | tierra | some recent benchmark I saw put ZF2 way off the scale for speed (though it's hard for me to see how that might happen since it's still mostly "use just the components you need" style of framework) |
| 20:34.54 | tierra | ah, yeah, I was looking at this (which was using 2.0.0-beta1): http://www.ruilog.com/blog/view/b6f0e42cf705.html |
| 20:35.07 | tierra | I guess that's not really "recent" though |
| 20:35.39 | tierra | I'd hope they've fixed that since because those numbers are just *terrible* |
| 20:40.20 | stirlingw | we are using ZF2 but not propel |
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| 20:43.36 | tierra | http://www.laruence.com/2012/09/16/2791.html <- there's a way more recent benchmark using 2.0.0-rc4 (Sept 2012) |
| 20:43.42 | tierra | still terrible performance |
| 20:46.49 | tierra | I know someone here has used Propel before |
| 20:46.56 | tierra | can't remember who |
| 20:47.55 | tierra | I recall a discussion related to bashing on it because of it's dependency on XML configuration files, even for things like DB migrations |
| 20:47.56 | mgeary | anyone here have any drupal experience? |
| 20:52.48 | mindjuju | actually mgeary, there is a chat chan for utah drupal, can't recall waht it is though, i'll look |
| 20:53.34 | mindjuju | mgeary it's #drupal-utah |
| 20:53.49 | mindjuju | i've only installed it and poked around with it, nothing beyond a few hours |
| 20:59.54 | TuxToaster | I'm always amazed at how many places exclusively use drupal |
| 21:00.26 | TuxToaster | worked with a place once that did *all* of their development inside of Drupal. Didn't matter what the project was or required, it had to use drupal |
| 21:18.55 | tierra | heh... obviously someone that doesn't believe in "the right tool for the right job" |
| 21:20.01 | stirlingw | ew... lol |
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