| 00:08.33 | carmony | its awesome for that |
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| 00:22.59 | ninnypan_ | carmony: can it clone repos and install databases and things like that too or will I need to use something else for that? |
| 00:23.25 | carmony | You'll have to use some sort of configuration management tool like puppet, chef, or salt. |
| 00:23.45 | ninnypan_ | ok that's kind of what I was thinking |
| 00:23.51 | ninnypan_ | you're using salt with it right? |
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| 05:09.55 | SunSparc | The filibuster continues. Go Rand! http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/ |
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| 16:14.40 | josephscott | love the video game approach to tell the story - http://vimeo.com/58412851 |
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| 16:46.26 | josephscott | ~flash-- |
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| 17:40.31 | mindjuju | now it can truly be said that i have seen it all, and i tremble in fear from it - http://cdn.sobadsogood.net/wp-content/uploads/38-Of-The-Most-Unexplainable-Images-On-The-Internet-8.jpg |
| 17:40.43 | mindjuju | SFW, but life altering none the less |
| 17:43.58 | ninnypants | man I wish I could have met leonardo |
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| 17:44.06 | ninnypants | mindjuju: we still on for tomorrow? |
| 17:44.10 | ninnypants | SunSparc: ^ |
| 17:44.27 | mindjuju | yup, i'm good |
| 17:44.36 | mindjuju | sorry i dogged yall las t minute last week, it was nutty |
| 17:46.08 | ninnypants | mindjuju: no worries it was pretty last minute anyway |
| 17:48.15 | SunSparc | ninnypants, mindjuju: I think I should be good. |
| 17:48.28 | mindjuju | where should we go? |
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| 17:48.35 | SunSparc | That Ninja turtle image is a big odd. |
| 17:48.43 | ninnypants | I figured we were still going to wing shak |
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| 18:20.10 | mindjuju | heh |
| 18:20.15 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm good with wings tomorrow |
| 18:29.40 | mindjuju | provo, right <<ninnypants & SunSparc |
| 18:29.42 | mindjuju | 1p |
| 18:30.14 | SunSparc | Ok |
| 18:32.54 | ninnypants | mindjuju: yep |
| 18:33.44 | SunSparc | PolitiLunch, now on my calendar. |
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| 20:02.09 | beandog | politilunch? |
| 20:03.20 | DexterTheDragon | it's their private club |
| 20:04.34 | ninnypants | yeah we specifically exclude anyone who doesn't show up |
| 20:05.03 | DexterTheDragon | they also do it in provo so no one shows up |
| 20:05.36 | beandog | lol |
| 20:06.49 | beandog | Utah County is pure evil |
| 20:07.47 | mahelious | beandog: yes, but only the east side of the lake |
| 20:07.59 | mahelious | west side is only kinda evil. |
| 20:08.40 | beandog | is there even anything on the west side? |
| 20:09.45 | T4rku5 | what's so evil about UtCo? |
| 20:14.46 | unum | beandog: a whole lot of houses |
| 20:14.47 | mahelious | Aside from the mayors office and the Y? |
| 20:14.54 | unum | and one grocery store |
| 20:14.57 | beandog | Aww man |
| 20:15.08 | beandog | I accidentally bought Reduced Fat Chips-A-Hoy |
| 20:15.12 | beandog | I thought they tasted weird. |
| 20:15.15 | unum | aww man |
| 20:15.29 | beandog | That didn't stop me eating them though |
| 20:15.37 | unum | T4rku5: have you been to UtCo? |
| 20:16.02 | mahelious | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multi-level_marketing_companies |
| 20:16.28 | beandog | No more Pre-paid Legal? |
| 20:16.43 | mahelious | take a look at that list and compare how many companies started in utah county (finding ties to BYU's Business School is extra-credit) |
| 20:16.53 | T4rku5 | unum, I'm typing from Lindon right now |
| 20:17.11 | beandog | ~utah |
| 20:17.11 | ibot | methinks utah is the place for fun |
| 20:17.21 | beandog | Okay, these cookies are gross. |
| 20:17.34 | mahelious | and those are the ones getting away with fraud legally. The amount of scheming in Provo and Orem alone is terrifying. |
| 20:18.26 | unum | have you ever been out of UtCo then ;) |
| 20:18.27 | beandog | I didn't know Avon was MLM |
| 20:18.42 | beandog | Tahitian Noni, too? |
| 20:18.48 | beandog | They had that massive building off the freeway |
| 20:19.06 | unum | mahelious: nice argument |
| 20:19.28 | beandog | mahelious: that reminds me, I have a great opportunity you need to hear about. |
| 20:19.47 | mahelious | haha. |
| 20:20.54 | ninnypants | beandog: how much does it cost to sign up? |
| 20:21.11 | beandog | ninnypants: classified. |
| 20:21.31 | mahelious | my poor mother in the belly of the beast...she must have tried every "miracle elixir" from every MLM startup between '95 - '02 |
| 20:21.57 | beandog | ninnypants: you have to sit through a meeting for an hour to find out |
| 20:22.15 | beandog | mahelious: what happened in '02? |
| 20:23.08 | mahelious | she moved to california. |
| 20:23.10 | DexterTheDragon | the miracle elixir healed her |
| 20:23.23 | mindjuju | DexterTheDragon, we only have the meeting in the UC cause everything north of the point is EVEL (prounced dr. evil way) |
| 20:23.27 | mahelious | of all of them i still think the mineral toddy was the worst |
| 20:23.54 | beandog | mindjuju: whatever, SLC is awesome sauce |
| 20:25.42 | mahelious | unum: spent a few years in europe and a couple in northern cali. enough to know utah isnt where i want to set roots. |
| 20:26.26 | mahelious | not all bad though, really. just a few bad apples that have had too many years to fester the barrell |
| 20:27.10 | beandog | Ive been offered a MLM opportunity only twice |
| 20:27.18 | beandog | Yah, that quicky terminated our friendship. |
| 20:27.51 | beandog | Okay is it just me or is the sound quality on Pandora crappy? |
| 20:28.31 | ninnypants | don't forget all the summer sales recruiting in UC |
| 20:32.01 | mindjuju | if the group is willing, i think we should talk about the Rand Paul filibuster and what it means for the GOP (and why the senior leadership seems to have their head stuck in their butt. Not to say it's just in there, but that it's been there and is wedged tightly) aka - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/us/politics/mccain-and-graham-assail-paul-filibuster-over-drones.html |
| 20:32.25 | T4rku5 | doesn't sound very php like, but ok |
| 20:32.37 | mindjuju | ? |
| 20:33.17 | beandog | php is off-topic here. |
| 20:33.49 | mindjuju | oh T4rku5 is seeing my group and thinking it means all of #uphpu |
| 20:34.01 | mindjuju | no, i'm talking to ninnypants and SunSparc |
| 20:34.56 | beandog | SunSparc loves a good argument. |
| 20:35.50 | SunSparc | beandog is correct :) |
| 20:36.30 | SunSparc | ~uphpu |
| 20:36.30 | ibot | uphpu is probably Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org Blootbot's favorite channel.. Utah Potato and Ham Producers Union, or a channel for rehabilitating programmers who have used PHP in the past |
| 20:36.42 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:36.46 | SunSparc | Good bot. |
| 20:36.47 | mindjuju | heh |
| 20:37.57 | mindjuju | so SunSparc, soemthing troubles me about yesterday that I want to do a little research on (Paul's fili) |
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| 20:39.41 | mindjuju | did you get the impression it was kind of a "While the cat's away the mice will play"? i believe all the senior leadership was at din at white house |
| 20:42.54 | mahelious | the GOP of the last decade reminds me a lot of Woodstock. there might be a handful of power players backstage, but the crowd in general is rolling in the mud telling themselves how great they are. |
| 20:43.51 | mindjuju | yeah, i'd agree with that on the most part. instead of being focused and diligent they seem to be mindless and scattered |
| 20:44.11 | mahelious | have no idea at this point if they even have an agenda anymore, much less what it is other than "We like being President." |
| 20:44.14 | mindjuju | going to have to call Chafettz on taht too, posted something to his FB page the other day |
| 20:45.00 | mindjuju | i hate it when people just regurgitate, if i want to hear that stuff, i know where to look -kthx |
| 20:45.56 | mindjuju | mahelious, this is what i posted for him yesterday after days of his posting the same thing that many of my friends posted: |
| 20:46.07 | mindjuju | Sir, I say this with the utmost humility and respect to you and your office, and I must mention that i have voted for you at every election: Please don't repeat what others have noted in the media, in my opinion it wastes time. We known the problems in the nation, we need solutions oriented people to figure the best solution. Tell us about what you're working on, why it has priority and how it will effect things. |
| 20:46.45 | mindjuju | course, my sentiments for the dems are about the same |
| 20:47.18 | mahelious | as for Rand Paul's filibuster specifically, seems to me he was playing the part of a stalking horse. I see a third pair of legs, just cant tell whose. |
| 20:47.51 | mindjuju | can you tell me a little more what you mean, i'm not sure i understand |
| 20:48.33 | mindjuju | fyi, i ahve to leave here in about 5 ~ 10 min |
| 20:48.49 | mindjuju | if you're local to UC you should come out to wings tomorrow |
| 20:48.58 | mahelious | "A stalking horse is a figure that tests a concept with someone or mounts a challenge against someone on behalf of an anonymous third party." |
| 20:49.15 | mahelious | Bear Claw: Trick to it. Walk out on this side of your horse. |
| 20:49.19 | mahelious | Jeremiah: What if he sees our feet? |
| 20:49.26 | mahelious | Bear Claw: Elk don't know how many feet a horse has! |
| 20:49.32 | mindjuju | heh |
| 20:50.00 | mindjuju | see, i think we're both seeing the same "weirdness" but seeing different possibilities as to the why |
| 20:50.10 | mindjuju | there is some weirdness though there |
| 20:50.34 | mindjuju | either way though, it's troubling |
| 20:52.15 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11VX4rWIWOY&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:52.17 | beandog | I want that hair. |
| 20:53.10 | fungus | mindjuju, the problem with Paul's fili, is that his request re: drone strikes has nothing to do with Brennan's nomination. That is really annoying. |
| 20:53.27 | fungus | I would go so far as to call it grandstanding. |
| 20:54.45 | SunSparc | fungus: He mentioned numerous times that the filibuster was not about the nomination. |
| 20:54.46 | fungus | I agree that the policy needs to be modified, but this is the wrong venue to approach it. |
| 20:55.10 | fungus | SunSparc, then why did he filibuster the nomination when it is unrelated. that's an asshole thing to do. |
| 20:55.39 | fungus | He needs to bring it up in a new discussion/bill |
| 20:55.52 | SunSparc | fungus: Probably because it was a good way to get attention and the topic does need attention, in my opinion. |
| 20:56.31 | josephscott | I think that might be the actual definition of grandstanding |
| 20:56.35 | SunSparc | Though at the same time it does relate to Brennan since Brennan will be in charge of that stuff. |
| 20:56.40 | fungus | That is not a *good* way to get attention. It does get attention, but it's a terrible way to do it. |
| 20:57.39 | fungus | Actions like that are part of the problem in the senate, holding up important progress for unrelated whining. |
| 20:59.14 | SunSparc | You think that being worried about killing non-combatant US Citizens on US soil is whining? |
| 20:59.41 | fungus | Did you see what I said earlier? "I agree that the policy needs to be modified, but this is the wrong venue to approach it. " |
| 21:00.10 | fungus | I only refer to it as whining, since it's the wrong venue, and not useful. |
| 21:00.43 | SunSparc | Interesting. I thought it was a great venue. |
| 21:01.00 | fungus | No, the right venue is a new bill to modify the policy. |
| 21:01.22 | fungus | Not in the nomination of Brennan. |
| 21:02.09 | SunSparc | Because the nomination of Brennan was so important? |
| 21:02.23 | fungus | It's unrelated. |
| 21:02.45 | fungus | There are rules and procedures for a reason. |
| 21:03.53 | SunSparc | Exactly. And there are exceptions to every rule and procedure and filibusters fit that bill. |
| 21:03.56 | fungus | If he wants to change the policy, he should introduce a new bill. |
| 21:04.48 | fungus | No, Brennan's nomination has nothing to do with his demand, and his filibuster is just to attract attention to his demand. |
| 21:04.59 | SunSparc | We have too many bills. This country needs to take pruning sheers to all the bills and laws it has. If laws were money we could eliminate our entire debt. |
| 21:05.42 | fungus | Then how else would you suggest that policy get changed? |
| 21:06.45 | fungus | Hint: policies are changed through new laws. |
| 21:06.50 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:07.18 | SunSparc | I would suggest that we stop making bad policy in the first place. |
| 21:07.29 | fungus | Well duh. |
| 21:07.33 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:07.34 | fungus | But it's too late for that. |
| 21:07.58 | fungus | FYI: To repeal and existing law requires a new law. |
| 21:08.00 | mahelious | even as recently as 50 years ago we might have solved a lot with a good, nation-wide book buning (focusing on law books particularly) |
| 21:08.15 | SunSparc | Yep. Catch22. I know. |
| 21:08.31 | mahelious | but in the internet age, i dont think theres any way to reduce the debt of political baggage. |
| 21:08.47 | mahelious | s/buning/burning |
| 21:09.50 | fungus | Think of laws as commits in a VCS. |
| 21:10.03 | SunSparc | mahelious: How about a good old fashion politician burning. :) |
| 21:10.29 | fungus | ninnypants, they are, just not a good one. |
| 21:10.34 | SunSparc | fungus: We need to dump the code and start with a fresh repo. |
| 21:10.40 | ninnypants | well a good vcs then |
| 21:10.49 | fungus | SunSparc, wants a revolution? WTF?! |
| 21:10.50 | mahelious | SunSparc: as long as it's bi-partisan, i'm all for it |
| 21:11.02 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:11.17 | mahelious | except maybe Gabby Giffords. it seems like shes gone through enough. |
| 21:11.20 | SunSparc | bi-partisan? how about omni-partisan? |
| 21:11.50 | fungus | We have a great codebase. It needs refactoring for sure. But if you want to use something completely new, leave our repo and go build your own. :) |
| 21:11.53 | SunSparc | fungus: Yes, I am in favor of a revolution. |
| 21:12.19 | SunSparc | fungus: I have certainly considered it. Have not ruled it out. |
| 21:12.22 | fungus | SunSparc is anti-american |
| 21:12.31 | fungus | :) |
| 21:12.53 | josephscott | continuous integration |
| 21:12.54 | SunSparc | heh, I suppose so. Anti-American, pro free humans. |
| 21:13.25 | fungus | Whoops, I think you just got added to some very bad CIA lists somewhere. |
| 21:13.42 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:14.40 | josephscott | revolution with the a hoped result of what? |
| 21:14.48 | SunSparc | I guess I should be worried about Brennan sending a drone to my house now. |
| 21:14.54 | josephscott | revolution for the sake of revolution would likely be worse that current conditions |
| 21:15.01 | mahelious | not that great of a codebase. it went closed source 30 years ago and you have to pay a couple thousand dollars just to check out the VS. god help you if you actually want to submit a patch without a few hundred grand backing you. |
| 21:15.19 | josephscott | 30 years ago? |
| 21:15.41 | mahelious | nixon was roughly 30 years ago. |
| 21:15.44 | SunSparc | Earlier than that, I would say. |
| 21:15.47 | fungus | more like a couple hundred years |
| 21:15.56 | SunSparc | Exactly |
| 21:17.33 | SunSparc | ~lart politics |
| 21:17.33 | ibot | installs a bad bootloader on politics and turns politics into a brick |
| 21:17.44 | SunSparc | Too late ibot. |
| 21:19.34 | fungus | That's a pretty general statement. w/o politics at all we only have anarchy. |
| 21:20.02 | fungus | They do suck for sure, but they are necessary. |
| 21:20.28 | fungus | At least until I perfect my mind control device. |
| 21:20.29 | SunSparc | Yeah, I know. Just wish we had some more "good"(tm) politicians. |
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| 21:20.47 | SunSparc | fungus: heh, that would be fun. |
| 21:21.15 | fungus | I don't the problem is good politicians. we had many of those, they just got changed by the system into bad ones. |
| 21:21.37 | fungus | system = campaign finance |
| 21:21.40 | josephscott | good/bad is too black and white |
| 21:21.48 | SunSparc | Sadly, you speak truth. And the definition of "good" is also arbitrary. |
| 21:21.58 | fungus | yup |
| 21:22.18 | josephscott | it is perfectly reasonable for me to disagree with some issues and agree with others, from the same political office holder |
| 21:22.45 | fungus | even the ones with good intentions have to do bad things to keep getting elected to get their "good" stuff done. |
| 21:23.14 | SunSparc | Sounds like a quote right out of "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". :) |
| 21:23.17 | fungus | good/bad referring to intention not results. |
| 21:24.45 | fungus | which reminds me of Paul's fili. That is only a bad intention, because his goal (change policy) cannot occur through his action (filibuster). |
| 21:24.55 | josephscott | and here I thought you'd be brushing up on more PHP :-) |
| 21:25.13 | SunSparc | josephscott: lol |
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| 22:42.51 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 22:42.51 | raifbot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays fridgesm in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed. |
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| 22:52.37 | unum | I asked this in #utah a couple of times and no one was able to help me so I reposting here, I actually am using preg_replace |
| 22:52.41 | unum | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:03.59 | ninnypants | unum: (\w[\.,;])(?!(com|\ )) |
| 23:04.22 | ninnypants | you would match the c so the look ahead would see om as not being com |
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| 23:08.48 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:08.48 | raifbot | hauls herlo up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles. |
| 23:09.27 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 23:09.27 | raifbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up mgeary. |
| 23:15.35 | herlo | ~lart josephscott |
| 23:15.35 | ibot | farts in josephscott's general direction |
| 23:15.55 | josephscott | ~deflect |
| 23:17.48 | herlo | ~lart josephscott |
| 23:17.48 | ibot | plops josephscott into a giant vat of herring |
| 23:18.00 | herlo | eat up, penguin boy! |
| 23:18.03 | herlo | :D |
| 23:18.22 | josephscott | ~tattle herlo |
| 23:18.30 | herlo | heh |
| 23:18.30 | josephscott | ~save me |
| 23:18.31 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves josephscott from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 23:18.46 | josephscott | it is if it means I don't have to deal with all that herring |
| 23:19.23 | unum | that looks like it would matech when there's a com and when there's a spcae |
| 23:19.33 | unum | nm |
| 23:19.37 | unum | I understand now |
| 23:19.49 | unum | but it still doesn't seem to be working |
| 23:20.28 | ninnypants | unum: I only ran against this quickly thrown together test string " The quick brown.fox jumped test.com" |
| 23:20.55 | ninnypants | and it put a space after the period before fox and left test.com alone |
| 23:21.16 | unum | hmmmm |
| 23:22.57 | herlo | regex is greedy |
| 23:23.11 | ninnypants | unum: I ran it in here so it's using the PCRE engine http://www.myregextester.com/ |
| 23:23.23 | unum | it's looking like user error. |
| 23:25.40 | unum | I need to watch for git error messages |
| 23:32.58 | unum | thanks for your help |
| 23:33.10 | unum | I only recently discover look ahead and have a lot to learn still |
| 23:34.08 | ninnypants | unum: I still don't know them well enough to use them with anything very complex |
| 23:36.32 | unum | then I should be able to ad |net|org|info correct? |
| 23:37.13 | ninnypants | yeah |
