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08:37.38piscishola buenas noches soy nuevo aki
08:38.04piscishola mindjuju
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16:27.24mindjujusounds like the stock market is doing well today :)
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17:21.03raifbotwielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot.
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18:55.14josephscott$lart spaces over tabs
18:55.15raifbotwhips out a shotgun, trudges over to spaces over tabs, and goes postal.
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19:56.58utahconjosephscott: so are you for space over tabs?
19:57.17josephscotttabs
19:57.26josephscottI like tabs
19:57.47josephscotthad to clean up some code with crazy mixed space and tab use
19:58.17utahconI like how some IDEs can fix it incoming and outgoing.
19:58.26utahconSo no matter what I work with my preference, and it fixes it.
19:58.32josephscottthe space use resulted in consistent columns, so some blocks that were supposed to be on the same level of indention, weren't
19:59.06utahconsame with new lines :D
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21:10.08mindjuju~supernovia++
21:10.33supernovia;)
21:33.23SunSparcmgeary: Got a salary range for your job post?  :)
21:38.40josephscottassuming you are talking about http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu-jobs/2013-March/000827.html the salary range is included
21:39.23josephscottinteresting that they are still doing lots of flash dev
21:39.24Monnok$8ball Is today going to get better?
21:39.25raifbotMonnok - As I see it, yes.
21:39.42TuxToaster$rlart
21:39.43raifbotpours hot grits down the front of Bikerdan's pants.
21:39.44Monnok$8ball Do you answer everything to me in the positive?
21:39.44raifbotMonnok - Most likely.
21:39.50TuxToasterlol
21:40.11josephscotthaha
21:40.27TuxToasterjosephscott: weird file I opened earlier... was created in terminal with vi, using tabs to indent options
21:40.41TuxToasterI opened it in ST2 over sftp and the alignment was all out of whack
21:40.42josephscott~tabs++
21:41.07josephscottI like tabs, they are natures space compressor :-)
21:41.28TuxToasterI still prefer tabs to line things up but it's a pain when you open the file in a different editor and it's trashed
21:41.32tierraexcept in YAML, then they are your worst nightmare ;)
21:42.02TuxToasterI was tempted to reformat it in sublime and then edit it that way but they want it to be primarily edited with vi for compatibility
21:44.38fungusTuxToaster, just configure your editor to match the policy.  
21:46.11fungusevery project/file should have a policy, either written or by culture.  Everyone should abide by what's there.
21:47.23fungusMost editors allow you to change the behavior to match the policy to be compatible but still reflect a similar view that you like to see.
21:47.55josephscott~ssh++
21:48.56funguseg. show tabs as 4 chars wide, but leave tab characters intact in the file itself.   Or convert all tabs to 3 spaces and save that way.  etc.
21:59.13SunSparcjosephscott: Thanks, I was actually referring to https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/utahpython/5nFwoH5G0-A
22:00.25josephscottlooks like the same job
22:00.31SunSparcYep
22:00.52BikerdanI love grits....
22:01.13SunSparcWith butter?
22:01.17mindjujuhow do you cook a grit?
22:01.33BikerdanI like butter and salt and pepper...
22:01.41BikerdanSome like it sweet.  I prefer savory.
22:01.53BikerdanLike you might cook oatmeal or malt-o-meal
22:02.03mindjujudarn, nobody caught it
22:02.04SunSparcmindjuju: It is like cream of wheat
22:02.05mindjuju:(
22:02.15mindjujuit's a movie quote
22:02.28SunSparc~quote mindjuju
22:02.40BikerdanI'm lame.  You shouldn't waste those sweet movie references on me.
22:02.46john_andersoncheesy grits. Mmm boy.
22:02.52BikerdanMmmmm
22:04.04mindjujuanother more famous quote from the same movie : http://pastebin.com/XQz6MhAm
22:04.16mindjujuWhat is : My Cousin Vinny
22:05.55mindjujuoh well don't go renting it on my account, there is some major language
22:06.01mindjujucatch it on TV one year when it plays
22:06.06SunSparcEnglish?
22:06.23mindjujuexpletive-laced english, yup
22:06.29SunSparcThe is the most major language I know.
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22:07.08mindjujuSunSparc - here is that quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVjbf-dHjW0, it's safe for work
22:10.37SunSparcmindjuju: Thanks, that clears things up.  :)
22:11.03mindjujusrry to distract from the grits conversation
22:26.58SunSparcmindjuju: haha
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22:28.38herloMy Cousin Vinny is a wonderful movie!
22:28.45mindjujuword
22:28.49herloif you haven't seen it, rent it today!
22:29.01herlo'My biological clock is ticking LIKE THIS!'
22:29.19mindjuju:), that movie is filled with tons of good quotes
22:29.53herloagreed
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22:45.56mindjujuhmm, Hugo Chavez is reported as dead http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/hugo-chavez-passionate-but-polarizing-venezuelan-president-dead-at-58/2013/03/05/42525790-afdd-11e0-90e1-c12867691ae6_print.html
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22:47.52herlomindjuju: saw that a bit ago...
22:49.08mindjujuoh i thoguht that was today
22:49.18mindjujuhaven't been as on top of news like i used to be
22:49.41herlono it was today
22:49.46herloa bit being an hour or so
22:49.56mindjujuoh gotcha
23:01.41mgearysorry, josephscott, SunSparc. Was at an offsite meeting
23:02.40mgearySunSparc: we're exploring a few scenarios. Currently we're trying to find a more junior position to augment our bandwidth. We may be looking for a more experienced person (additionally) before too long
23:03.31mgearyjosephscott: we are doing *some* flash dev. Some of it is very audio-centric, which is an area where alternate technologies really lag behind
23:06.09josephscotthmm, I haven't really looked at modern libs for just audio, that fall back to things like flash, I assume they are probably out there
23:06.15josephscottsimilar to the video situation
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23:33.15mgearyno, you're thinking much much more simply than we are in terms of audio
23:33.41mgearyi'm talking about sequencing audio files on the fly, blending them, manipulating their decay
23:34.18mgearyand even what little HTML5 offers by way of audio manipulations is much more than iOS Webkit currently supports
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