| 00:01.13 | herlo | ninnypants: yes, fabric works with those, depending on what you mean by that |
| 00:01.19 | herlo | also, I don't disagree with DexterTheDragon |
| 00:02.58 | ninnypants | so what we have is I want a deploy system to simplify my life, but we don't control client servers so there are some that there is only ftp access to and others that have SSH/SFTP so I'm looking for a tool that will be able to handle deploys to FTP as well so I don't have to remember which is which |
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| 00:03.47 | tierra | the WP community is chuck full of one-off projects everyone is using rather than more general, mature, established tools for tasks like this... it's a little crazy |
| 00:04.22 | herlo | ninnypants: tell them to use secure methods or you aren't responsible for their code :) |
| 00:04.44 | herlo | ninnypants: however, if you can do the deploy on the command line, you can do it in fabric or capistrano or whatever |
| 00:05.40 | ninnypants | herlo: well currently I drag and drop files through an FTP client |
| 00:06.32 | ninnypants | so I'm hoping to find something with all the ftp calls automated so I don't have to write the commands |
| 00:06.39 | tierra | i.e. can you trust WP Stack (maintained by one developer who already has his hands full with another major project entirely) to expand the project and maintain reliability as your project using it grows? We're really just talking about deployment here, and there's several highly mature projects that are extremely reliable for that (capistrano, puppet, salt, chef, etc) |
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| 00:10.06 | tierra | also, do you really want to end up learning a new deployment tool if/when you're pushed into a new project not using WP when you could learn one of the ones mentioned above which are fairly generalized for nearly any type of project? |
| 00:10.37 | herlo | ninnypants: have you used ncftp or lftp? |
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| 00:10.43 | herlo | if not, you really should look into them |
| 00:11.09 | ninnypants | herlo: I haven't |
| 00:12.05 | herlo | tierra: are you suggesting that fabric isn't a mature deployment tool or did you just simply omit it? |
| 00:14.08 | herlo | tierra: oh, I see. You are referring to WP Stack as the 'new' deployment tool? right? |
| 00:14.51 | tierra | yeah |
| 00:15.07 | tierra | not to discount other tools... |
| 00:20.16 | herlo | cool |
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| 16:20.01 | josephscott_ | just in case fungus gets any ideas again :-) http://hackertarget.com/tor-exit-node-visualization/ |
| 16:20.15 | josephscott_ | xmission appears to be running a cluster of tor exit nodes |
| 16:21.29 | josephscott | then there is a lone node out in Ogden, probably run by DexterTheDragon ;-) |
| 16:22.30 | DexterTheDragon | says it's on digis so it must not be me |
| 16:25.34 | jsmith | Whee... |
| 16:32.01 | Monnok | $8ball Should I look for new dubstep today? |
| 16:32.01 | raifbot | Monnok - Yes. |
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| 17:01.14 | josephscott | $8ball is it Friday yet? |
| 17:01.15 | raifbot | josephscott - Better not tell you now. |
| 17:16.39 | itimber | hey guys |
| 17:17.41 | itimber | does anyone have, know, wouldn't-mind-retooling-a-file-for-a-client-in Access 97? |
| 17:17.53 | itimber | :-) |
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| 17:28.52 | UtahDave | itimber: what? |
| 17:29.34 | itimber | haha |
| 17:29.36 | itimber | sorry |
| 17:29.40 | itimber | I have a client |
| 17:30.10 | itimber | that asked me to make some edits to his Access 97 spreadsheet |
| 17:30.20 | itimber | he can't upgrade |
| 17:30.25 | itimber | and I don't have the tools |
| 17:30.35 | itimber | so, I'm seeing if anyone here wants the work |
| 17:37.15 | josephscott | ouch |
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| 17:39.44 | ninnypants | anyone tried light table http://www.chris-granger.com/2013/02/27/light-table-030-experience/ |
| 17:39.53 | ninnypants | http://www.lighttable.com/ |
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| 17:46.53 | mindjuju | so herlo, qq about repos |
| 17:47.29 | mindjuju | if i say yum list php* it should list all versions in a repo including earlier versions -- not just the latest version |
| 17:47.45 | mindjuju | or maybe i'm looking for an archive? |
| 17:48.15 | mindjuju | what i'm trying to do is, the remi repo has php 5.4.x and i'm looking for a 5.3.21 |
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| 17:53.27 | mindjuju | heya jsmith, you around? |
| 17:54.06 | jsmith | mindjuju: For various definitions of round, yes ;-p |
| 17:55.08 | mindjuju | so jsmith, if i say yum info php and it gives me my php version, i see release : 14.el6_3 |
| 17:55.13 | mindjuju | that's the backport isn't it? |
| 17:55.53 | jsmith | mindjuju: Well, not necessarily |
| 17:55.58 | mindjuju | i wonder if there is a way i can equate that to a current version of PHP |
| 17:56.00 | mindjuju | oh |
| 17:56.06 | jsmith | mindjuju: Look at the *version* tag |
| 17:56.11 | jsmith | mindjuju: (not the release tag) |
| 17:56.28 | jsmith | For example, on my Fedora laptop: |
| 17:56.36 | mindjuju | so version is 5.3.3 |
| 17:56.43 | mindjuju | but that won't fly for PCI |
| 17:57.08 | jsmith | Name : php |
| 17:57.08 | jsmith | Version : 5.4.12 |
| 17:57.08 | jsmith | Release : 1.fc18 |
| 17:57.09 | jsmith | Version in the PHP version |
| 17:57.09 | jsmith | Release is the version of the RPM package created for php |
| 17:59.12 | mindjuju | so jsmith, if i have a repo, like remi repo and they are at php 5.4.x and i want the remi php 5.3.21 where would i go to look for that |
| 17:59.30 | mindjuju | when i say yum list php*, it doesn't list the younger php versions, just the latest |
| 18:02.39 | mindjuju | :( crickets /me continues to look on google |
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| 18:36.34 | fungus | mindjuju, like herlo said yesterday, add the option --show-duplicates |
| 18:36.49 | herlo | like I said, yes |
| 18:38.02 | mgeary | well this isn't good: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=24234203&nid=148&title=provo-elementary-under-lockdown-due-to-bomb-threat&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1 |
| 18:38.05 | mgeary | that's my kids' school |
| 18:44.14 | jsmith | mgeary: Don't worry -- my son's school has had three bomb threats in the last year |
| 18:44.23 | jsmith | mgeary: You get used to them after a while... |
| 18:44.24 | mgeary | yeah, i'm not really worried. |
| 18:44.40 | mgeary | but i don't like my kids having to deal with the stress that is presumably associated |
| 18:59.36 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 18:59.38 | mahelious | thats down the street from where i went to school. |
| 18:59.52 | mahelious | canyon crap and edgie-wedgies |
| 19:00.51 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: I know there are ways on both yum and apt to pin specific versions of packages |
| 19:00.56 | mahelious | police will discover some goth kid from timpview was bored during lunch, im guessing |
| 19:02.49 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: or you could tell it not to use the remi repo for php, unless there's something specific you need from that repo |
| 19:08.52 | mgeary | mahelious: you went to Canyon Crest? |
| 19:09.21 | mgeary | mahelious: i may know your family. i've lived in the area for 30+ years |
| 19:10.32 | mahelious | not a big family and we weren't there for long. live in the woodside condos (before there were any townhomes) for a few years and then moved up the street to cove drive. |
| 19:11.59 | mgeary | ah, west of university. I'm up in the SE corner of Sherwood Hills |
| 19:12.03 | mahelious | in between the Ashtons and the Dastrups |
| 19:12.51 | mahelious | yep. im a riverbottoms bum. |
| 19:12.56 | mgeary | so, folks (fungus), by what means are spammers now associating identities with emails such that i get an email from, for example, "mgeary's sister" <spammer@spam.com>. Anyone know how they are finding that "mgeary's sister" has a connection to me/my email? |
| 19:13.24 | mgeary | it's not going *through* my sister's email, it's just putting her name in the From header |
| 19:47.17 | ninnypants | facebook? |
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| 20:46.08 | ninnypants | mindjuju: SunSparc are we doing lunch tomorrow since it's the first friday of the month? |
| 20:58.58 | mindjuju | ninnypants, i hope so! i could use the break :) |
| 20:59.42 | DexterTheDragon | you guys should have it in layton |
| 21:00.02 | mindjuju | that's a long way to talk politics, but i'd do it ;) |
| 21:00.51 | mindjuju | ninnypants, where should we go to eat |
| 21:00.55 | mindjuju | ? |
| 21:01.13 | ninnypants | doesn't matter to me so long as it's delicious |
| 21:04.31 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 21:04.31 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
| 21:04.45 | ninnypants | take that ibot |
| 21:04.54 | ninnypants | ibot: take that |
| 21:05.03 | ninnypants | no response |
| 21:05.51 | mindjuju | i wonder if we should eat wings tomorrow? |
| 21:06.10 | mindjuju | can you have a serious conversation whilst eating buffalo wings ? |
| 21:06.36 | ninnypants | mindjuju: you can sure try |
| 21:06.57 | ninnypants | you could do the spicy wing challenge at wingshack and get yourself a shirt |
| 21:07.14 | mindjuju | wingshack, hmm, where is that at? |
| 21:07.58 | ninnypants | there's one in AF and I think there's one further south |
| 21:08.15 | mindjuju | there is one in provo |
| 21:08.19 | ninnypants | or we could go to the smoking apple if we want bbq |
| 21:08.49 | mindjuju | as a rule, i don't usually do food challenges where the purpose is to swallow 10 burger in 5 minutes with a bag of chips -- but if it is about the heat, i think i might need to show them what up |
| 21:09.26 | mindjuju | seems like the more stressed out i get, the more spicy i'm eating, and i've gotten to the point i put hot sauce on my hot sauce |
| 21:09.31 | ninnypants | yeah it didn't sound that bad maybe 6-10 wings which is a normal amount |
| 21:09.40 | mindjuju | cholula on my corn flakes |
| 21:09.57 | mindjuju | that kind of thing |
| 21:12.10 | mindjuju | $8ball, does fungus put cholula on his tofu? |
| 21:12.10 | raifbot | mindjuju - Yes. |
| 21:12.24 | mindjuju | wow, i'll have to try that |
| 21:13.49 | mindjuju | fungus-bane is cholula? i'll have to remember that |
| 21:14.12 | fungus | or that siracha? stuff. |
| 21:14.37 | mindjuju | that stuff is good on the right dishes |
| 21:14.59 | mindjuju | the heat has to make sense or i don't like it, i don't like a punch in the mouth heat just for the heck of it |
| 21:15.54 | fungus | any more than a slight tongue tingle is too much for me. |
| 21:43.28 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 21:43.28 | raifbot | frags john_anderson with his BFG9000. |
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| 23:54.18 | mindjuju | uncharacteristically true image found on facebook - https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541473_10151308855853803_1595732271_n.jpg |
| 23:56.52 | fungus | very similar to this old one. http://i.imgur.com/vRTRP.jpg |
| 23:59.37 | Bikerdan | http://www.break.com/index/how-people-see-people-2301152/ |
