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| 16:34.33 | josephscott | $8ball going to be a great week? |
| 16:34.33 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 16:34.46 | josephscott | $8ball going to be a great week? |
| 16:34.47 | raifbot | josephscott - Cannot predict now. |
| 16:34.55 | josephscott | this isn't going well |
| 16:50.39 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:52.20 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:52.21 | raifbot | explains, ever so gently, that if utahcon doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help. |
| 16:52.45 | TuxToaster | meh, not lart'y enough. |
| 16:52.48 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:52.48 | raifbot | moos at SunSparc. |
| 16:52.51 | TuxToaster | that's better. |
| 16:52.56 | josephscott | $lart TuxToaster |
| 16:52.56 | raifbot | decapitates TuxToaster conan the destroyer style. |
| 16:53.52 | josephscott | ~glue TuxToaster |
| 16:54.11 | josephscott | guess gluing the head back one doesn't work |
| 16:55.46 | TuxToaster | $8ball would glue work? |
| 16:55.46 | raifbot | TuxToaster - You may rely on it. |
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| 17:02.30 | Monnok | $8ball is ZendStudio 10 worth my time? |
| 17:02.30 | raifbot | Monnok - Very doubtful. |
| 17:02.43 | Monnok | Tell that to my boss |
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| 17:35.43 | herlo | anyone here driving to SCaLE? |
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| 18:58.37 | HumanCell | Ugh ... I can't help promote the meeting this week (if ther eis one?) if it's not posted on the web site ... :-( |
| 18:59.58 | josephscott | carmony: ^^ |
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| 19:11.55 | TuxToaster | Monnok: lol |
| 19:12.17 | TuxToaster | ZendStudio is good for one thing, IMO, and that's being able to do server-side debugging |
| 19:13.07 | TuxToaster | but in most apps you can print_r() and exit somewhere to tell you what a value is anyways, or write it to a file or something |
| 19:20.15 | Monnok | he argues that its made by the people who made PHP, so its gotta be the best tool for the job |
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| 19:26.08 | herlo | HumanCell: probably best to send an email to the list |
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| 19:52.14 | DexterTheDragon | ....Zend doesn't/didn't really make PHP. They built the first Zend Engine, which powers the PHP core now. But it's open source and is developed by the community now. |
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| 20:16.16 | HumanCell | herlo: I'm hoping that someone will simply become proactive ... :-) I had to skip UPHPU in the mail for this week. :-( |
| 20:17.04 | HumanCell | I can't be polling everyone ... it take too much time. Groups that want people to participate need to announce the meetings well in advance, or it's tough to get the word out. Too last minute. |
| 20:30.37 | josephscott | HumanCell: carmony is running UPHPU now, we'll pester him to post meeting details sooner :-) |
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| 20:54.26 | mindjuju | ~apb SunSparc |
| 20:54.26 | ibot | ACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out SunSparc |
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| 22:25.41 | Monnok | $lart Mondays |
| 22:25.42 | raifbot | holds Mondays to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 22:46.00 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: lamenting lack of change logs? |
| 22:46.15 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: drives me crazy |
| 22:46.34 | josephscott | hehe, yeah |
| 22:46.38 | josephscott | what was it for? |
| 22:47.11 | DexterTheDragon | I've been going through the gem libraries our application uses and seeing whats out of date |
| 22:48.11 | josephscott | fun |
| 22:48.41 | josephscott | what ever happened to the break in there? |
| 22:49.58 | DexterTheDragon | I'm not entirely sure, I heard some talk of signing gems and whatnot, but then haven't heard anything else since |
| 22:54.14 | utahcon | josephscott: is there a reason WP doesn't auto generate keys (or warnings in admin) during installs? |
| 22:54.55 | josephscott | ultimately because no one was taken the time to write code to check it |
| 22:55.08 | josephscott | I suspect most devs assume people were doing the right thing |
| 22:55.19 | utahcon | people never get it right |
| 22:55.25 | utahcon | if they did, we'd be out of jobs. |
| 22:55.31 | josephscott | I was surprised at how many sites were using the default salts and keys, so VaultPress started taking some action |
| 22:55.58 | josephscott | I think my job would safe even if people could successfully edit a few lines in a config file :-) |
| 22:58.05 | utahcon | lol -- I didn't mean literally. |
| 22:58.17 | utahcon | I saw the post about VP taking some action, that is cool. |
| 22:58.28 | utahcon | Does it just scrape the file and check the values? |
| 22:59.09 | josephscott | VaultPress scans for all sorts of stuff in code, so we added that as one of the checks |
| 22:59.18 | utahcon | nice |
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