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| 05:30.11 | c9re845g | only me n im op |
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| 16:04.39 | cro | Hi there! |
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| 16:58.09 | ninnypants | mindjuju: SunSparc are we doing a friday lunch again? |
| 17:01.56 | josephscott | $lart the flu |
| 17:01.57 | raifbot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays the flu in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed. |
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| 17:11.09 | TuxToaster | josephscott: agreed. |
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| 17:52.57 | raifbot | Chuck Norris' smile brought a puppy back to life |
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| 18:16.17 | ninnypants | this is really awesome http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20970928 |
| 18:35.33 | fungus | wow, that's crazy. |
| 18:36.24 | ninnypants | yeah could be really cool though you'd have to move away from things like glass with the ipad |
| 18:36.49 | fungus | right, which would probably reduce it's lifetime |
| 18:41.22 | ninnypants | seems like the pressure might reduce the life as well |
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| 19:01.09 | mindjuju_ | ~welcome beandog |
| 19:01.09 | ibot | beandog, Sup yo? |
| 19:05.05 | beandog | sup |
| 19:05.09 | beandog | I'm researching RAID today |
| 19:05.16 | beandog | Trying to choose between RAID5 and RAID6 |
| 19:06.18 | mindjuju_ | i didn't know much about it until the other day when i think itwas tierra that mentioned it |
| 19:07.26 | tierra | how many drives are you looking at? |
| 19:07.39 | beandog | tierra: I have two rack servers, with 6 drives total |
| 19:07.55 | beandog | So, I'm thinking between doing 4 drives in one, and use that server for more critical stuff |
| 19:08.05 | beandog | and using the 2 drives in the other for meh, not so critical stuff |
| 19:08.14 | beandog | RAID5/6 on the first, RAID1 on the other |
| 19:08.42 | tierra | probably RAID5 most likely then on the first |
| 19:09.04 | beandog | Or a third option is to set them both up with 3 drives and do RAID5 on both servers. |
| 19:11.41 | mindjuju_ | when i was reading up on RAID 6, it sounded like the write was slower than RAID 5 (because of the overhead) and the read was the same, but it gave you better fail protection |
| 19:12.22 | beandog | read / write speed is not a concern here, we're not running apps that are dependent on performance. My main goal is best redundancy. |
| 19:12.28 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: ninnypants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUV6oqCFrFU |
| 19:12.31 | tierra | ^ pretty much dead on for RAID6 description |
| 19:12.55 | beandog | tierra: mine or juju's? |
| 19:13.02 | tierra | mindjuju_'s |
| 19:13.39 | ninnypants | I wonder how much a test launch even that small costs |
| 19:13.44 | tierra | if you don't plan to grow the array though, RAID6 isn't going to be much different than a RAID0+1 setup |
| 19:13.51 | tierra | same usable space I think |
| 19:14.22 | beandog | Okay now *that* is a probable possibility, is us adding more hdds |
| 19:14.25 | tierra | 0+1 would be better performance I believe |
| 19:14.39 | beandog | That's gonna happen. I shouldn't say probably. It'd happen eventually. |
| 19:14.50 | beandog | tierra: so do raid5 if I'm gonna grow the array later? |
| 19:14.56 | tierra | ok, so if you are probably going to grow the array, then RAID6 is a good choice |
| 19:15.04 | tierra | RAID6 or RAID5 |
| 19:15.12 | beandog | The servers each have slots for 6 drives, and we'll fill them up |
| 19:15.13 | mindjuju_ | whoami |
| 19:15.16 | mindjuju_ | oops |
| 19:15.41 | tierra | I'd suggest RAID6 if you plan to grow the array up past 6 to 8 drives... 8 drives is pushing it for data protection on RAID5 |
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| 19:16.28 | beandog | tierra: am I being paranoid if I wanna use raid6 instead of raid5? |
| 19:16.37 | beandog | I mean, chances of *any* of these drives dying is low. |
| 19:17.01 | beandog | It'd probably be wiser to just archive the data on another box if I really want more redundancy |
| 19:17.06 | DexterTheDragon | I had a raid6. then 2 drives failed |
| 19:17.08 | beandog | and then use the larger amount of space |
| 19:17.18 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: oh yah, did you recover okay? |
| 19:17.21 | mindjuju_ | so what i was reading said about RAID 6 is that ... yeah what DtD said |
| 19:17.33 | tierra | maybe a little... for my home media box, I was pushing 8 drives in RAID5, but if this is for more critical data, I'd probably bite the loss of space for one more drive and go RAID6 |
| 19:17.44 | beandog | tierra: okay |
| 19:17.59 | beandog | I kinda wanna have one server that is more stable and I have to worry about less in general. |
| 19:18.48 | DexterTheDragon | I haven't bothered with it. I think it's running in a raid5 mode now, but I'm just backing everything up to external drives |
| 19:20.08 | tierra | DexterTheDragon's situation is exactly where RAID6 comes in handy... if you don't get a bad drive replaced out before another goes in RAID5, you lose everything, but RAID6 would survive a second drive failure |
| 19:20.11 | beandog | Ooh, I just realized I can play with RAID scenarios with a VirtualBox |
| 19:21.17 | jsmith | tierra: Or RAID5+1 |
| 19:21.58 | tierra | don't hear about that setup too often, heh |
| 19:22.12 | jsmith | That's my favorite |
| 19:22.23 | beandog | raid 5+1? |
| 19:22.38 | beandog | that's crazy talk. |
| 19:26.37 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: That is so awesome! |
| 19:26.49 | SunSparc | So cool that it can hover there so steady like that. |
| 19:27.27 | SunSparc | Someone at SpaceX definitely knows their rocket science. |
| 19:28.25 | josephscott | hotspare |
| 19:28.40 | josephscott | hot spare |
| 19:29.11 | tierra | jsmith: it's a small step, but I've got WP headed in the right direction with git, heh: http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/01/10/git-mirror-history-breakage/ |
| 19:29.36 | jsmith | tierra: Well I'll be a monkey's uncle... |
| 19:29.50 | tierra | :) |
| 19:30.32 | SunSparc | ibot: is jsmith a monkey's uncle? |
| 19:30.43 | josephscott | there are also some good articles on why having one drive fail in a raid array increases the odds of another drive failing soon after |
| 19:30.47 | beandog | $8ball is jsmith related to apes |
| 19:30.47 | raifbot | beandog - You may rely on it. |
| 19:30.53 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:30.53 | beandog | 8ball speaks wisdom. |
| 19:31.17 | beandog | $8ball should I use raid6 |
| 19:31.17 | raifbot | beandog - Without a doubt. |
| 19:31.21 | beandog | that was easy. |
| 19:31.24 | beandog | why am I asking you guys? |
| 19:31.36 | beandog | :) |
| 19:31.56 | tierra | josephscott speaks the truth... RAID5 is cool about letting you add a hot spare to the array, ready to go the second a drive fails |
| 19:33.05 | jsmith | beandog: Ouch! |
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| 19:33.21 | jsmith | josephscott: I could tell you horror stories |
| 19:33.34 | beandog | ~love jsmith |
| 19:33.34 | ibot | If you love jsmith so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 19:33.45 | beandog | $8ball is jsmith an "it"? |
| 19:33.45 | raifbot | beandog - Cannot predict now. |
| 19:33.47 | DexterTheDragon | I actually had all the above. RAID6 + hotspare. 1 drive failed. Started rebuilding on the spare, second drive failed. |
| 19:33.53 | josephscott | sadly I have a few raid horror stories of my own :-( |
| 19:33.59 | beandog | Okay |
| 19:34.05 | beandog | You guys are not helping with raid horror stories ... |
| 19:34.20 | josephscott | beandog: just remember, raid isn't a backup solution |
| 19:34.36 | beandog | josephscott: yah, I'm not using it as that |
| 19:34.41 | beandog | or am I? |
| 19:34.43 | beandog | ~dreevil |
| 19:34.49 | tierra | hehe |
| 19:34.51 | beandog | ~drevil |
| 19:34.54 | beandog | meh |
| 19:34.55 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: most of the common theories I've seen have to do with the increased load on all the other drives after one fails |
| 19:34.58 | jsmith | josephscott: First drive fails, and in the process, throttles down the SCSI speed... hence the sync to the hot spare takes longer -- increasing the risk of a second failure... |
| 19:35.30 | beandog | josephscott: actually that's a good point, I gotta get that through my head. |
| 19:35.37 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: yep. I don't really think RAID5/6 is safe on 1TB+ drives |
| 19:35.52 | josephscott | yeah, length of time to bring the hot spare up to date is also an issue |
| 19:36.21 | beandog | why am I using RAID? |
| 19:36.22 | beandog | That's the big question. |
| 19:36.34 | josephscott | good question to ask |
| 19:36.45 | tierra | meh... I've got a RAID5 right now with 5 3TB drives :/ (but it is the media box referenced earlier with nothing terribly important on it, and no concerns for performance during rebuilds) |
| 19:36.47 | beandog | Because I got three free blade servers, and it's fun to play with them |
| 19:37.06 | josephscott | tierra: if WP is going to mirror to a git repo I think it is worth doing it "right" (for some definition of right) |
| 19:38.29 | tierra | josephscott: I've been running my own git-svn mirror of WP rather than using the official WP git mirror for a long time now that already has all these fixes discussed in that thread: https://github.com/tierra/wordpress (note that it's not a fork from WordPress/WordPress) |
| 19:38.53 | josephscott | nice |
| 19:39.27 | tierra | I think scribu has even been using mine instead of official too, heh |
| 19:39.31 | josephscott | some days I've half tempted to write small compat scripts so that I don't have to mentally switch between svn and git commands so much |
| 19:39.59 | josephscott | for a large part of my use of both it is just diff and committing |
| 19:40.10 | josephscott | and I hate typing svn when I mean git and git when I mean svn |
| 19:40.43 | tierra | heh, compat aliases/scripts would just make things even more confusing I think |
| 19:41.09 | beandog | Okay so here's another question: do I use the hardware RAID controller (with sucky interface and it hiccups at the slightest change) or mdadm |
| 19:41.15 | tierra | you'd forget you're actually working in git instead of svn and viceversa |
| 19:41.53 | josephscott | tierra: most of the time I think I'd rather forget :-) |
| 19:43.23 | tierra | beandog: I'm a fan of mdadm knowing that I'm not tied down to a certain model raid controller I'd have to order replacements for if it died... and in the last few years, I've mostly read that software RAID is more than efficient enough to keep up with hardware RAID solutions (it used to be much slower) |
| 19:44.10 | beandog | yah, okay |
| 19:44.17 | beandog | I've heard the same thing too, re efficiency |
| 19:44.18 | fungus | if your raid card is decent (battery backed, cache, etc), use the hardware card. If it's only mediocre , use software |
| 19:46.00 | josephscott | yep, with more cpus and cores now days checksum calculation over head is much less of an issue |
| 19:46.46 | fungus | Yes, but bus bandwidth is still an issue. |
| 19:47.04 | fungus | and a good raid card can ease that decently. |
| 19:47.36 | josephscott | sure, dedicate quality hardware is likely always going to be better |
| 19:47.43 | josephscott | which is why gamers love their video cards :-) |
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| 19:48.01 | fungus | Yup, but if it isn't quality, then it's not worth it. |
| 19:49.04 | fungus | I only use RAID6 if I have more than 6 drives usually. |
| 19:49.26 | beandog | ok |
| 19:49.50 | fungus | and 0+1 for performance and 4 drives is my only expected growth. |
| 19:50.38 | fungus | and every server's OS drive is a RAID 1 mirror. |
| 19:57.56 | fungus | I have a server w/ 48 drives in it. I seem to lose about 1 drive a month now, it's about 3 years old. |
| 19:58.32 | herlo | fungus: good thing you have RAID :) |
| 19:58.40 | fungus | Yup. |
| 19:58.40 | tierra | what kind of drives out of curiosity? |
| 19:59.09 | fungus | Seagate drives from Sun |
| 19:59.24 | fungus | All my replacements are Hitachis now. |
| 19:59.58 | tierra | I always hear really good things about Hitachi drive failure rates |
| 20:00.47 | fungus | Yeah, I have another similar server w/ 48 Hitachi drives, it's 2 years older and has only lost 1 drive so far. |
| 20:01.02 | tierra | heh, wow |
| 20:04.12 | fungus | Nice thing is both of those machines run ZFS with it's RAID6 equiv raidz2 |
| 20:04.37 | fungus | and they have plenty of spares too. |
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| 20:07.55 | fungus | no kidding, at that scale you'd have to have people who do that a lot. |
| 20:09.16 | tierra | maybe even some crazy automated disk replacement robot, heh |
| 20:10.30 | fungus | That's not a bad idea... |
| 20:10.32 | josephscott | s/shopping card/shopping cart/ |
| 20:10.43 | fungus | They make those all the time for tapes |
| 20:10.49 | fungus | I have two myself. |
| 20:11.15 | fungus | They aren't big |
| 20:11.32 | fungus | Just about 10U boxes with robot arms swapping tapes around |
| 20:11.41 | fungus | Nothing huge. |
| 20:12.10 | josephscott | I suspect unless there was a big win along some particular vector google wouldn't trade the flexibility of a human in the DC for a robot (to swap out drives) |
| 20:12.51 | fungus | Probably true. They probably have to swap out other hardware enough to warrant an employee anyway. |
| 20:14.17 | tierra | I know they employ super small teams to manage their datacenters, although they did have that one video of one datacenter where they showed some guy manually sticking dead drives in the machine built for destroying drives |
| 20:14.52 | fungus | oooh, that's cool. I wanna watch that machine run. |
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| 20:15.42 | tierra | fungus: I think it was this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=avP5d16wEp0 |
| 20:17.01 | josephscott | I suspect most DCs don't have large head counts |
| 20:17.53 | fungus | cool. That hd destroyer machine is awesome. I want one. |
| 20:22.09 | TuxToaster | our HD destroyer was named Neal. |
| 20:22.15 | TuxToaster | he liked to dismantle them. |
| 20:25.34 | fungus | heh, I like dismantling them too, but it's too tedious to do more than 1 or 2 a day. |
| 20:27.45 | TuxToaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISqCAnROh8 |
| 20:28.22 | jsmith | I prefer the "concussive maintenance" method myself |
| 20:28.43 | jsmith | (of course, I'm hitting them with something a bit more impactful than the palm of my hand) |
| 20:29.10 | TuxToaster | ow |
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| 20:30.00 | josephscott | that is awesome! |
| 20:40.32 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 20:40.33 | raifbot | does a little 'renice 20 -u Monnok'. |
| 20:41.29 | TuxToaster | ~rlartstats |
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| 21:10.15 | ninnypants | anyone go to code camp last year? |
| 21:11.01 | ninnypants | site http://www.utahgeekevents.com/ |
| 21:11.43 | josephscott | I went a few years ago |
| 21:12.09 | josephscott | turned out to be super focused on Microsoft, so it gradually lost interest for me |
| 21:12.49 | SunSparc | As a result, Code Camp no longer attends josephscott. |
| 21:13.01 | josephscott | yep :-) |
| 21:13.08 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:13.22 | josephscott | I gave it a shot when the asked for more open source participation, even spoke one year |
| 21:14.32 | SunSparc | I guess they were not serious. Just wanted to make a token effort to get more money out of the open source segment. |
| 21:15.12 | josephscott | no idea, like I said, it has been a few years since I've attended |
| 21:17.27 | josephscott | ninnypants: did you get their call for speakers email? |
| 21:18.50 | josephscott | oh, they've moved to the miller campus now |
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| 21:24.29 | Logicte | hello, anybody have some time to help me with some php tricks? |
| 21:24.35 | unum | what's up? |
| 21:24.58 | Logicte | unum i have buyed a php script game |
| 21:25.14 | Logicte | and i wantt o modify something on meta title and meta description |
| 21:25.38 | Logicte | but this script is made a litle complicated |
| 21:27.21 | tierra | yeah, the first year I saw that running, I looked over the schedule, and it was all SQL Server, .NET, C#, etc... I think it was even originally first hosted at Neumont (which might as well have been branded MS/IBM school)... and the only sessions even remotely related to open source were projects built on MS-only platforms |
| 21:27.32 | tierra | (referring to Code Camp) |
| 21:28.40 | ninnypants | josephscott: yeah I got the email and wondered why I was on the list |
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| 22:20.42 | josephscott | this is kinda sad http://devour.com/video/cadet-releases-mouse-into-the-wild/ |
| 22:27.39 | unum | oops I meant to come right back and answer his question |
| 22:27.43 | unum | and I of course forgot |
| 22:28.15 | TuxToaster | unum: eh, he didn't stick around long enough to really get an answer anyways |
| 22:28.30 | unum | 15 minutes? |
| 22:28.45 | unum | I could have atleast told him it was probably intentional obfusticated |
| 22:28.49 | unum | :) |
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| 23:52.54 | SunSparc | josephscott: lol about the mouse |