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| 02:43.51 | mindjuju | anybody know anytihng about density heatmaps? |
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| 02:44.28 | mindjuju | i'm looking to represent some geographical data (using zip codes) by means of a density heatmap |
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| 05:01.21 | SunSparc | Django vs CakePHP... fight! |
| 05:01.32 | SunSparc | :) |
| 05:07.05 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: Rails. bam! |
| 05:07.19 | SunSparc | haha |
| 05:07.33 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Are you a Ruby man? |
| 05:07.38 | SunSparc | I assume. |
| 05:07.57 | DexterTheDragon | yeah I've been doing RoR for a few years now |
| 05:08.09 | SunSparc | You dig it? |
| 05:08.23 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 05:08.48 | SunSparc | I considered both Ruby and Python and decided to go with Python. Cannot remember my reasoning. :) |
| 05:09.12 | DexterTheDragon | both good languages |
| 05:09.18 | herlo | SunSparc: python doesn't make you hate it later on :) |
| 05:09.22 | SunSparc | Yep, made the choice hard. |
| 05:09.31 | SunSparc | herlo: Oh yeah? :) |
| 05:09.58 | herlo | SunSparc: lol, I think ruby has some decorator functionality that isn't simple to comprehend. Takes some time. |
| 05:10.12 | SunSparc | I spect them's fightin words. |
| 05:10.21 | herlo | especially rails, but I've seen it throughout ruby |
| 05:11.01 | SunSparc | As a sysadmin at my last job I had to do some ruby setup and getting gems was rather fun. |
| 05:11.32 | SunSparc | But I started playing with Django and really loved it. |
| 05:13.12 | SunSparc | Anyway, I am still mostly in the PHP world. But I have been considering using Django for a project, just for fun. |
| 06:02.48 | herlo | cool |
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| 16:19.00 | mgeary | SunSparc: welcome to the Dark Side |
| 16:19.13 | herlo | haha |
| 16:19.43 | herlo | mgeary: we might be good for going to Brighton next Monday, if you are up for that night skiing dealio. |
| 16:20.16 | mgeary | once you Django, it's so hard to go back to those awful PHP frameworks |
| 16:20.48 | mgeary | herlo: i'd like to. I'll plant some seeds with the missus... |
| 16:21.17 | herlo | mgeary: k, no biggie if you can't |
| 16:21.50 | herlo | mgeary: also, Shaun is deciding right now whether he'll be going to California for 3 weeks with his mom. He indicated he doesn't really want to go... |
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| 16:26.31 | mgeary | well, if he stays, let's definitely plan another ski outing. Saturdays are best for us... |
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| 16:29.21 | herlo | mgeary: sure, we can do this or next Saturday probably. |
| 16:29.54 | herlo | I think he's going to be with his mom at least until Saturday this week, just not sure if it's going to be to the end of Saturday or what... |
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| 17:19.05 | ninnypants | mindjuju: did you figure out your heatmap stuff? |
| 17:32.14 | mindjuju | i'm using google fusion tables for it, but it gave me a headache last night so i put it off for tonight ( ihad like 2hrs sleep from sun -> mon no joke :( |
| 17:32.18 | mindjuju | brb |
| 17:52.35 | ninnypants | mindjuju: you need to sleep more |
| 17:55.43 | mindjuju | yeah, things were getting nutty |
| 17:56.48 | mindjuju | i doubted my wife for about 5 minutes the other day. i thought a full week had passed but really it'd been only 2 days :( |
| 17:57.33 | mindjuju | my padawan at work decided to go to school full time, gave same day notice (the punk!) and i've been scrambling since |
| 17:57.46 | mindjuju | we're just about half way in stabalizing things now |
| 17:58.13 | mindjuju | if things go well, i should be able to start going back to normal sleep schedule in a few days :) |
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| 18:02.32 | ninnypants | mindjuju: you didn't just have a line of padawans at your door the next day? |
| 18:02.58 | josephscott | not if he keeps calling them padawans ;-) |
| 18:19.04 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 18:19.04 | ibot | puts peno through a wood chipper |
| 18:23.37 | captbrogers | Anyone have experience with streaming videos to a DLNA TV from a linux machine? |
| 18:24.34 | captbrogers | My wife got a mini computer for me for Christmas so I can have a new home server. It has enough space to handle all my DVD/Blurays and I want to put them on there then stream to my TV |
| 18:24.59 | HumanCell | I've been playing with XBMC, and it seems to have "some" support ... http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMC_all_platforms_FAQ#Can_I_run_XBMC_from_my_PC_to_my_TV_using_DLNA.2FUPnP.3F |
| 18:25.17 | ninnypants | you could try plex as well |
| 18:26.33 | josephscott | I've got plex on an older winxp system, has worked well |
| 18:27.02 | josephscott | I tried their linux version awhile back, seemed to be fine as well |
| 18:27.22 | ninnypants | yeah I'm liking plex running it on my main machine and can watch on my ipad even from outside the house |
| 18:33.47 | captbrogers | Hrmm, I'll have to try those. Thanks guy |
| 18:33.49 | captbrogers | s |
| 18:33.52 | captbrogers | fj |
| 18:35.30 | UtahDave | does #UPHPU have a location for it's meetings yet? |
| 18:35.51 | mgeary | i see what you're doing there, UtahDave |
| 18:36.05 | UtahDave | :) what's that? |
| 18:36.35 | UtahDave | ha ha. Well, the offer is still on the table. |
| 18:37.03 | UtahDave | My concern is that I believe I'm supposed to be speaking at the next UPHPU, but have not received any response on where I should go to actually speak |
| 18:37.10 | mgeary | aha |
| 18:37.39 | UtahDave | It would obviously be awesome if it were here, but regardless, I do need to know where. |
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| 19:09.13 | ninnypants | I think carmony was talking with the guys at SEO.com but I'm not sure |
| 19:10.06 | mindjuju | that's what i heard, seo.com is where he's trying |
| 19:11.07 | jsmith | mindjuju, carmony: I have a lead on another space in the Sandy area -- I'll let you know if I can get it for you |
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| 19:21.13 | TuxToaster | we've also got approval for meeting at Vivint (Thanksgiving Point) |
| 19:21.45 | TuxToaster | last I talked to Carmony he said we'd likely meet here, but dunno if he's found anywhere else |
| 19:38.03 | mahelious | an hour late, but ive been running plex off of my readynas with pleasant results. |
| 19:38.33 | mahelious | although my lg tv only supports "dlna" coming from plex server. vendor lock-in is the pits. |
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| 20:27.43 | mindjuju | has anybody here gone the r-pi + xbmc route ? a roku we've had for a couple years has started to fail with some frequency (every 2 or 3 days?) and i think will need replace soon (?is first world problem?) |
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| 20:43.21 | mgeary | herlo: hey |
| 20:44.36 | mgeary | herlo: it appears that Brighton has removed their Monday Ski Evening deal? |
| 20:49.37 | mgeary | nm. i found it |
| 20:49.43 | mgeary | it's not on FB anymore |
| 21:04.05 | herlo | mgeary: yeah, it's still on their site |
| 21:04.31 | mgeary | yeah. wonder why they removed it from FB |
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| 21:14.29 | josephscott | I'm sure we can find someone here in Utah willing to drive to Iowa to go pick this up - http://desmoines.craigslist.org/zip/3529279057.html |
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| 21:23.02 | mgeary | hah |
| 21:25.12 | wps | CNN says that 2012 is the hottest year on record |
| 21:25.45 | wps | I hate that they (news, scientists, politicians, whoever) never preface such statements with… "within recorded history" |
| 21:26.09 | wps | we only have records going back 200-300 years |
| 21:26.56 | wps | I guess that particular headline did say "hottest on record" |
| 21:27.57 | wps | but they usually don't |
| 21:30.52 | wps | I just don't understand how the climate change proponents are so confident |
| 21:32.04 | josephscott | climate change or not, would rather not have such horrible air quality days |
| 21:32.31 | josephscott | looking out over the SLC valley from my house looks very bleak, big bowl of gray air |
| 21:32.46 | wps | a bad consequence of living in a valley |
| 21:35.33 | josephscott | good time to update your ruby on rails installs - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rubyonrails-security/61bkgvnSGTQ/discussion |
| 21:39.16 | fungus | mindjuju, I just bought a second rpi for that very purpose. |
| 21:39.51 | fungus | I don't have details yet as I haven't received it yet. |
| 21:45.42 | herlo | fungus: what purpose? I can't see the backlog where he mentioned something that would run on rpi |
| 21:45.54 | fungus | XBMC |
| 21:46.19 | shalkie | mindjuju: I have a friend that went that route and seems happy enough with it. He did have to get a IR sensor and remote (which he found online for like $5). |
| 21:46.19 | herlo | fungus: ahh, yes. I want to do that too |
| 21:46.34 | herlo | shalkie: redbeard? |
| 21:46.43 | herlo | he did the same thing... |
| 21:46.44 | shalkie | herlo: No. Someone that doesn't hang out on IRC. |
| 21:46.48 | herlo | lamer |
| 21:46.48 | fungus | I installed it once months ago on my first rpi, but scrapped it because it wouldn't do video streaming via Airplay |
| 21:46.50 | herlo | :D |
| 21:47.10 | fungus | But now I want to try using it for standard media center front-end stuff. |
| 21:47.17 | shalkie | Did he now... Wait, do you mean redbeard2? |
| 21:49.54 | fungus | 1 rpi just isn't enough. Too many useful purposes for it. |
| 21:53.12 | herlo | fungus: lol, indeed. |
| 21:53.33 | herlo | shalkie: I'm not sure what you are talking about now... |
| 21:54.51 | shalkie | There is a RedBeard and RedBeard2*. *=we used to work with that one... |
| 21:55.36 | herlo | shalkie: yes, redbeard2, unlike you, Mr BreadBeard :) |
| 21:55.52 | herlo | oh, that's a cool reuse of the same letters in the name |
| 21:58.43 | BreadBeard | Fine! :-P |
| 22:01.29 | herlo | :D |
| 22:01.40 | herlo | BreadBeard: it fits you well :) |
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| 22:23.29 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 22:23.29 | raifbot | rm -rf's herlo. |
| 22:27.27 | herlo | ~lart ninnypants |
| 22:27.27 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of ninnypants's pants |
| 22:38.13 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:38.14 | raifbot | calls josephscott on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home. |
| 22:38.22 | TuxToaster | $lart herlo |
| 22:38.22 | raifbot | beats herlo over the head with a microkernel. |
| 22:38.53 | josephscott | cmon now we know that I'm home almost all day :-) |
| 22:39.43 | herlo | ~whalepoo TuxToaster |
| 22:39.48 | herlo | ~whalepoop TuxToaster |
| 22:39.48 | ibot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at TuxToaster |
| 22:39.50 | herlo | lol |
| 22:40.00 | herlo | ~poo TuxToaster |
| 22:40.00 | ibot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at TuxToaster |
| 22:41.14 | TuxToaster | $8ball is herlo obsessed with whalepoo? |
| 22:41.14 | raifbot | TuxToaster - You may rely on it. |
| 22:41.24 | TuxToaster | I'd rather not rely on whalepoo, thanks. |
| 22:41.40 | herlo | lol |
| 22:41.43 | herlo | too bad for you |
| 22:41.47 | herlo | ~cook TuxToaster |
| 22:41.47 | ibot | ACTION throws TuxToaster in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks TuxToaster on 350 for an hour |
| 22:42.07 | skinner | ~cook ibot |
| 22:42.07 | ibot | ACTION throws ibot in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks ibot on 350 for an hour |
| 22:42.19 | tierra | mindjuju: you should maybe consider something like this: http://www.zotacusa.com/zbox-hd-id34-blu-ray.html (for XBMC) |
| 22:45.06 | TuxToaster | ~compress herlo |
| 22:45.06 | ibot | ACTION drops an anvil on herlo's head |
| 22:47.46 | herlo | ~whallop TuxToaster |
| 22:47.46 | ibot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop TuxToaster until TuxToaster whimpers like a little girl! |
| 22:48.01 | herlo | ~SunSparc TuxToaster |
| 22:48.02 | ibot | ACTION builds a really, really, really tall tower, climbs it, and drops large water balloons on TuxToaster |
| 22:48.31 | TuxToaster | aw snap. |
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| 23:01.10 | mindjuju | the person formely known as shalkie now known as BreadBeard ;) that's good to know, i'll order one |
| 23:01.27 | mindjuju | now im really confused |
| 23:02.32 | mindjuju | so Shalkie, can you find out more about the IR remote? i was thinking of going web interface via smartphone |
| 23:02.48 | herlo | mindjuju: haha, the BreadBeard nick came from Shaun deciding it was funny that Shalkie had Bread in his beard more than he had it in his mouth. :) |
| 23:03.07 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:03.30 | mindjuju | i should put a chicken bone in my beard and see if people call me ford |
| 23:03.39 | herlo | not sure how true it was, but he does get bread in his beard. Most people do if they have a large beard. |
| 23:03.45 | herlo | mindjuju: lol |
| 23:05.24 | mindjuju | how is the new homestead herlo? |
| 23:05.29 | herlo | mindjuju: very nice |
| 23:05.38 | mindjuju | hear the kiddo is sick :( |
| 23:05.42 | herlo | we're dealing with a few broken parts and walls, but overall it's good |
| 23:06.13 | herlo | he's getting better. Poor little guy has had his worst cold yet. Been down for about 3 days now. There are good signs of recovery today, though. |
| 23:06.20 | Shalkie | mindjuju: It was something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-PC-Laptop-IR-Remote-Control-Controller-Receiver-/310474715547?pt=US_Remote_Controls_Pointers&hash=item4849bc319b |
| 23:07.02 | mindjuju | oh awesome, thx Shalkie |
| 23:07.41 | herlo | ~tinyurl Shalkie |
| 23:07.41 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=Shalkie' and laughs maniacally! |
| 23:07.57 | Shalkie | No Problem. I can't vouch anything for the seller. |
| 23:08.16 | mindjuju | so herlo, that one you posted looks really cool, but that's way more than my budget daddy warbucks |
| 23:08.21 | mindjuju | course, you have more hair than i do |
| 23:08.45 | herlo | what did I post? |
| 23:09.00 | mindjuju | oh sorry, that was tierra |
| 23:09.01 | mindjuju | my bad |
| 23:09.03 | Shalkie | Google can't find me! |
| 23:09.06 | Shalkie | AWESOME! |
| 23:10.35 | herlo | mindjuju: um, yeah. I've broken the bank over the past couple months. Two mortgage payments and a rent payment will do that to ya |
| 23:11.37 | mindjuju | :(, srry bro |
| 23:12.00 | herlo | mindjuju: ahh, it should be better after the 15th. Living paycheck to paycheck again is grand fun. |
| 23:12.37 | mindjuju | boy, i hate that stress |
| 23:12.52 | ninnypants | mindjuju: there are app for tablets that will let you use them as a remote for xmbc |
| 23:13.01 | TuxToaster | herlo: two mortgage and a rent? wha? |
| 23:13.10 | mindjuju | so this accident we have in tiff's car, $500 insurance deductable and $500 for new tires |
| 23:13.15 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm not stressed per se. Just had to rearrange bills for a while. |
| 23:13.28 | mindjuju | luckily we have emergency funds for it :) |
| 23:13.48 | mindjuju | but it could have been serious several years back |
| 23:14.10 | herlo | TuxToaster: own a home in murray that I'm renting out, but still have to pay the mortgage. Rent doesn't quite cover it all. I'm renting a place until the end of this month. And I just bought a new place in November, which I now have to start paying for this month. |
| 23:14.12 | mindjuju | fungus, have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOyDTy9DtHQ#! |
| 23:14.21 | mindjuju | i promise, no rick roll and no rebecca black |
| 23:14.26 | mindjuju | you can trust me!! ;) |
| 23:14.34 | TuxToaster | aah, forgot you owned the place in Murray still |
| 23:14.37 | fungus | are you sure? ... hmm |
| 23:14.43 | mindjuju | i promise!! |
| 23:14.49 | TuxToaster | fungus: don't doooo itttt |
| 23:14.53 | mindjuju | i've turned over a new leaf! it's the new and improved MJ! |
| 23:14.54 | fungus | Oh, new David Bowie. Of course i've seen it |
| 23:15.08 | mindjuju | i thought you prolly had |
| 23:15.19 | fungus | yup, love me some bowie |
| 23:18.09 | herlo | though I can't wait for walls |
| 23:18.46 | mindjuju | walls are good |
| 23:19.03 | herlo | mindjuju: well, I do have walls, but the furnace isn't behind one of them yet |
| 23:19.18 | herlo | so it gets loud in here sometimes... |
| 23:19.24 | herlo | also, I'm going to have an awesome server room |
| 23:20.33 | herlo | mindjuju: oh, it'll be a year or two before I can even start to consider it. Still need power, a rack, servers, time, money, ... |
| 23:20.39 | mindjuju | though, my server room, aka the back of the room where the fireplace once was (i think it was a coal shoot), but now where the waterheater tapsinto the chimeny, makes for a nice cool spot year around |
| 23:21.14 | mindjuju | did yall hear about this thing 4chan did with #cuttingforbeiber ? |
| 23:21.16 | mindjuju | hilarious |
| 23:21.51 | mindjuju | cant tell what is funnier, that they did it or that the news fell for it and published on it without bothering to try to confirm |
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| 23:37.58 | skinner | Random non-php question: What language would be good to use to allow me to make a game that has a downloadable client and a server it connects to. |
| 23:38.14 | skinner | no 3d |
| 23:38.18 | skinner | just 2d |
| 23:43.25 | unum | c++ works for everything :) |
| 23:43.33 | mindjuju | Shalkie, did you order your r-pi from newark.com |
| 23:43.37 | unum | so does python |
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| 23:57.27 | fungus | skinner, python and C++ would be good choices. especially with pygame, or SDL stuff. |
| 23:58.39 | skinner | fungus: Would one be better than the other if the game turned into an mmo style? |
| 23:58.49 | mindjuju | fungus, where did you order your rpi? |
| 23:58.54 | fungus | mindjuju, newark.com |
| 23:58.59 | fungus | Both of them |
| 23:59.03 | skinner | the ui would mainly be text and simple graphics |
| 23:59.15 | mindjuju | k |
| 23:59.16 | fungus | skinner, I would say C++ if you are going to go massive |