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| 16:42.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 16:43.52 | josephscott | $rlart |
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| 19:20.02 | josephscott | ninnypants: who is updating http://wpslc.com/ ? |
| 19:20.13 | josephscott | no word on jan meeting and map for location is wrong |
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| 20:06.52 | ninnypants | josephscott: I am. I sent out for info on the January meetup but need to follow up since I haven't heard back |
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| 20:19.30 | josephscott | ninnypants: ok, got forwarded an email from brady mower in provo, was asking about creating a new group down there |
| 20:19.45 | josephscott | I want to direct him to wpslc, but would be better if the info was current |
| 20:20.16 | ninnypants | josephscott: yeah I got one on WPSLC and haven't had a chance to reply and Jake included me on one this morning as well |
| 20:20.39 | josephscott | ninnypants: cool, will you reply to him then |
| 20:21.11 | josephscott | ninnypants: also, does wpslc have a meetup.com group? if not we should create one |
| 20:21.28 | josephscott | we can get the cost covered if that is a concern |
| 20:21.31 | ninnypants | I don't know that it does currently I think it used to |
| 20:23.29 | josephscott | we should go ahead and create one, from what I hear lots of people still search there |
| 20:36.26 | ninnypants | ok I can do that tonight |
| 20:39.09 | josephscott | thanks |
| 20:39.46 | josephscott | $8ball do people still use meetup.com? |
| 20:39.48 | raifbot | josephscott - Signs point to yes. |
| 20:46.09 | mindjuju | any bash afficenados in the haus? |
| 20:46.51 | mindjuju | i'm doing a series of bash commands piping from one to another |
| 20:46.55 | mindjuju | so it looks like this |
| 20:47.03 | mindjuju | find . |
| 20:47.06 | mindjuju | oops |
| 20:47.43 | mindjuju | find . | grep -i myExpression | mail -s results myemail@example.com |
| 20:47.51 | mindjuju | but what i'm wondering is if i can do something like |
| 20:49.11 | mindjuju | find . | grep -i myExpression >> result.txt | mail -s results myemail... i guess if i can get mail to do attachments, then alls i have to do is put the path down and it'll do it,, and then maybe clean it up with an && rm result.txt |
| 20:50.28 | fungus | mindjuju, if you want the output to both go to a file and to the next command in a pipe, you use the tee command |
| 20:50.49 | fungus | find . | grep -i myExpression | tee result.txt | mail -s results myemail... |
| 20:51.19 | mindjuju | well, its that i want the output to be attached to the email |
| 20:51.34 | fungus | so you want attach instead of in the body? |
| 20:51.40 | mindjuju | yup |
| 20:52.03 | mindjuju | loo,s like i can say mail -s subject email@example.com << file.txt |
| 20:52.14 | fungus | Then you need a tool that does attachments, mail does not |
| 20:52.20 | fungus | example with mutt |
| 20:52.47 | fungus | find . | grep -i myExpression > result.txt && mutt -s results -a result.txt email@address.com |
| 20:53.31 | mindjuju | thx fungus |
| 20:53.36 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 20:54.08 | fungus | you can also add a "-i filename" to specify a file containing the body of the message as well |
| 20:55.22 | fungus | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17359/how-do-i-send-a-file-as-an-email-attachment-using-linux-command-line |
| 20:55.35 | fungus | that includes other options |
| 20:56.33 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:56.34 | raifbot | farts in tierra's general direction. |
| 21:13.04 | SunSparc | gut status |
| 21:13.10 | SunSparc | Gut is hungry. |
| 21:13.24 | SunSparc | gut checkout hamsandwich master |
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| 21:20.03 | josephscott | gut check? |
| 21:23.49 | SunSparc | Yep, just checking my food repo. |
| 21:25.35 | carmony | hey everyone :) |
| 21:27.10 | jsmith | Hey carmony |
| 21:27.30 | carmony | how was everyone's holiday? |
| 21:27.41 | jsmith | Rockin' |
| 21:27.44 | jsmith | Yours? |
| 21:28.30 | mindjuju | It's a trap! |
| 21:28.59 | mindjuju | btw, akismet signup page no worky in opera (on ubuntu & winders 7) https://akismet.com/signup/ :( |
| 21:30.53 | josephscott | mindjuju: you should see if you know anyone that works with the Akismet team ;-) |
| 21:31.32 | mindjuju | you know, you field so many WP questions, i hate fielding them to ya |
| 21:32.12 | mindjuju | that's why i updated that WP memory cell to now include ninnypants, tierra, MikeHansenMe, supernovia, etc |
| 21:32.47 | josephscott | mindjuju: what version and which plan? I just signed up for a free account using Opera 12.10 without problems |
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| 21:33.14 | mindjuju | hang on josephscott |
| 21:33.50 | josephscott | I didn't try a paid account yet |
| 21:34.06 | mindjuju | nope, it was the free one |
| 21:34.24 | mindjuju | course, now it works on opera on winders, trying it on ubuntu :| |
| 21:34.34 | SunSparc | ~trap mindjuju |
| 21:34.34 | ibot | ACTION traps mindjuju in the attic! |
| 21:37.34 | mindjuju | well josephscott, don't know what to say, its working now on both. pebkac! |
| 21:37.51 | mindjuju | any how, do i recall correctly you don't work on akismet anymore, you switched over to something new? |
| 21:38.09 | mindjuju | new direction within automattics? i seem to recall a blog post |
| 21:38.25 | josephscott | I'm team lead for VaultPress now, but I worked on Akismet for a few years and still work closely with that team |
| 21:39.03 | josephscott | so I'm happy to look at Akismet questions, or at least get them to the right people |
| 21:39.20 | mindjuju | vaultpress is the turnkey backup for WP right? the cadillac service as it were? |
| 21:39.54 | josephscott | hehe, yeah |
| 21:40.18 | josephscott | supernovia: on bad hair days I'm going to picture this http://devour.com/video/international-space-station-tour/ |
| 21:50.28 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: meant to check with you to see if the MC server has been behaving well |
| 21:51.02 | TuxToaster | I've been working on finishing my basement so I accidentally killed my connection a couple of times while I moved things around |
| 21:51.42 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: I have not been on in a coupld days, but when I was on last it seemed fine. I know my brother has still been on and have not heard anything from him. |
| 21:52.53 | TuxToaster | cool |
| 21:53.03 | mindjuju | good though when i ahve used it though :) |
| 21:53.37 | TuxToaster | yeah I discovered that the outlet that my wiring cabinet is plugged in to shares the circuit with all of my basement lighting |
| 21:53.49 | TuxToaster | which I had to turn off to hang the drywall on the ceiling |
| 21:54.50 | TuxToaster | so I had to run an extension cord to it for a bit, which probably kicked the firewall and switches for a few min each. :-) |
| 21:54.51 | josephscott | $lart drywall |
| 21:54.53 | raifbot | cuts off drywall's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper. |
| 21:55.12 | TuxToaster | a utility knife works well too, raifbot |
| 21:55.39 | TuxToaster | for future reference, though, a panel lift is freaking amazing when drywalling a ceiling |
| 21:56.22 | TuxToaster | rented one from Home Depot for like $35. I'm still sore, but not as much as I would've been having to lift the panels without it |
| 21:57.44 | supernovia | lols josephscott |
| 21:57.55 | supernovia | I was happiness engineering in person — missed your bad hair day thing |
| 21:58.06 | supernovia | that's like an every hair day for me :-p |
| 21:58.36 | supernovia | (at least when I wake up ;p) |
| 21:58.48 | josephscott | supernovia: in person, you at a happiness bar? |
| 21:59.18 | supernovia | Not at a happiness bar - just helping a girl here get started with WP.com :) |
| 21:59.51 | supernovia | I totally need to work a happiness bar sometime though :) |
| 22:00.23 | josephscott | cool |
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| 23:08.46 | mindjuju | fungus, you still around? |
| 23:09.04 | fungus | yup |
| 23:09.34 | mindjuju | i think this is an easy qq. I'm in vSphere and I read this : http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1027865 about cloning, but i don't see the option to clone. i think the answer is that i don't have that feature in my freebie version |
| 23:09.45 | mindjuju | unless, i'm just blind... |
| 23:10.17 | mindjuju | did the right click on the VM, it's not there under the "context menu" which is what i'm guessing comes up when i right click |
| 23:10.29 | fungus | what version are you using? |
| 23:10.46 | fungus | Is the VM running? |
| 23:10.54 | mindjuju | 5.1 |
| 23:11.01 | mindjuju | and let me check |
| 23:11.22 | fungus | live cloning requires the VMotion network stuff, i think. |
| 23:11.27 | mindjuju | so esxi 5.1, virtual machine version is 8 |
| 23:11.34 | mindjuju | yeah, i figured |
| 23:11.49 | mindjuju | darn, taht linked stuff looked cool |
| 23:11.55 | fungus | Oh, it is. |
| 23:12.02 | mindjuju | :( |
| 23:12.05 | fungus | I use it regularly. |
| 23:12.29 | fungus | are you in eval mode still? |
| 23:12.41 | mindjuju | nope, i put in a freebie license |
| 23:12.57 | fungus | ah, that might not be supported in freebie mode. too. |
| 23:14.40 | mindjuju | walls of the server room layered in gold with real cold aisles and warm aisles |
| 23:14.53 | fungus | lol |
| 23:15.10 | fungus | nope, my in house datacenter is pretty basic. |
| 23:15.11 | mindjuju | and Choirs Angelic sing when one enters the fabled server room |
| 23:15.18 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:15.55 | fungus | I don't even have overhead wiring. So i have to pull up tiles to run wiring between racks and such. that part sucks. |
| 23:16.18 | josephscott | for the rails folks in the room, good time to update - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rubyonrails-security/DCNTNp_qjFM |
| 23:16.45 | mindjuju | so maybe not the full Choirs Angelic, maybe just a few members harmonizing |
| 23:17.03 | fungus | hehe |
| 23:17.44 | mindjuju | my server room feels like purgatory : general uneasiness, not sure which way is up |
| 23:18.29 | mindjuju | and when i walk in bums playing "My heart bleeds for you" in G minor play on 3 string banjos |
| 23:18.59 | fungus | vSphere Standard includes most really cool features, and only costs $1268 per proc retail. |
| 23:19.37 | mindjuju | except for the powervault, i don't have a single server worth that much |
| 23:20.00 | fungus | really?! bummer |
| 23:20.18 | mindjuju | yeah, your castoffs are my gold |
| 23:20.50 | fungus | oh hey, that reminds me. I have two more servers I plugged in and forgot about. |
| 23:21.25 | fungus | New DB server with 192GB of RAM. very excited. |
| 23:22.21 | fungus | But not excited enough to remember over the holidays. oops. That was two weeks ago. |
| 23:23.34 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:24.12 | mindjuju | 192GB RAM |
| 23:24.15 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: yeah, some companies just don't put the resources into their networks |
| 23:24.19 | mindjuju | i'm pretty sure... |
| 23:24.28 | TuxToaster | though some may not really need as much as others either |
| 23:24.40 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm positive, i don't have that much RAM in all the servers in the server room |
| 23:24.48 | mindjuju | i probably have that much in the whole building |
| 23:25.00 | mindjuju | but that's counting EVERY last thing |
| 23:25.02 | fungus | heh. |
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| 23:29.21 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: how many servers & workstations do you have? |
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| 23:30.17 | TuxToaster | if you had 48 Windows 7 capable boxes (so figuring 4GB) that would be 192 :P |
| 23:30.26 | SunSparc | lol, yeah, that is a lot of memory. |
| 23:31.13 | TuxToaster | my MBP has 16GB |
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| 23:31.29 | TuxToaster | next runner up is the MC box with 12 |
| 23:31.52 | fungus | My new work desktop here has 32GB of RAM |
| 23:31.52 | SunSparc | Mine is maxxed out at 8GB, older model. Three years old in a month or so. |
| 23:32.08 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 23:32.25 | fungus | The whole IS dept here got new desktops last month. |
| 23:32.28 | TuxToaster | actually I've got a couple of PowerEdges at home that might have more, I can't remember if I added to them or not |
| 23:32.37 | fungus | We splurge big for the IS machines. |
| 23:33.11 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: FWIW, you should look up your exact model on OWC's site. Mine is a couple years old, and doesn't "officially" support 16GB, but it works fine |
| 23:33.18 | SunSparc | fungus: If I believed in luck, I would say you are lukcy. |
| 23:33.30 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Oh yeah? |
| 23:33.33 | TuxToaster | and the 16GB wasn't very expensive either. |
| 23:33.48 | SunSparc | I know, 16gb is cheap these days. |
| 23:34.02 | TuxToaster | when I bought it it would have cost me about $800 to do 16, now it's ~$100 |
| 23:34.15 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 23:34.32 | TuxToaster | fungus: my work desktop now has 24GB |
| 23:34.38 | SunSparc | I used Crucials analyzer to tell me 8gb was the max. |
| 23:34.46 | TuxToaster | an '08 Mac Pro that I won't let them replace |
| 23:34.59 | fungus | nice. |
| 23:35.07 | SunSparc | Wow, that IS old. :) |
| 23:35.13 | TuxToaster | I've been asked a couple of times if I want to swap it for an iMac or MBP |
| 23:35.23 | fungus | I'm waiting patiently for the next gen Mac Pro for my home machine |
| 23:35.35 | TuxToaster | I've told them if they decide it needs to be deprecated I'll buy it. :-) |
| 23:35.56 | TuxToaster | 12+ cores ? |
| 23:35.58 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 23:36.16 | SunSparc | 12 cores? |
| 23:36.26 | TuxToaster | I wouldn't mind a new one, but I'll take an old one if I can get it |
| 23:36.35 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: yeah, the current Mac Pros have 12 cores |
| 23:36.43 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 23:36.50 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:36.56 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: you mean you want a MTP |
| 23:36.58 | TuxToaster | MacToasterPro |
| 23:37.09 | SunSparc | LOL, yes! |
| 23:37.20 | TuxToaster | it doubles as a frying pan |
| 23:37.26 | TuxToaster | flip it upside down and cook your breakfast |
| 23:37.28 | mindjuju | mac toasterpro? sounds fancy |
| 23:37.49 | SunSparc | Seriously, that would be pretty warm. Probably need some cryogenic cooling. |
| 23:38.04 | josephscott | co-worker called my last macbook pro "the hair dryer" |
| 23:38.13 | josephscott | the fan ran a lot :-) |
| 23:38.19 | mindjuju | that's awesome josephscott |
| 23:38.58 | TuxToaster | 'tis a funny sight |
| 23:39.13 | josephscott | I really like my current macbook air |
| 23:39.15 | mindjuju | i got self-conscious from fungus teasing me about the laptops i was using to record UPHPU with, so i got rid of all but one |
| 23:39.26 | mindjuju | :( |
| 23:39.30 | mindjuju | but they were awesome machines |
| 23:39.32 | SunSparc | ~console mindjuju |
| 23:39.32 | ibot | ACTION gives mindjuju the consolation moose |
| 23:39.57 | josephscott | figure eventually you'll be able to get a macbook air with 16GB, maybe 2 years? |
| 23:40.24 | mindjuju | i don't drive the air, that's my wife's laptop |
| 23:40.43 | mindjuju | i tootle around in a sony viao these days |
| 23:40.58 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 23:41.25 | TuxToaster | personally, for non MBPs I prefer a good Dell Precision |
| 23:41.49 | mindjuju | yeah, dell is good, i've had several laptops |
| 23:41.53 | TuxToaster | solid machines, and they double well as an MBP if you're into hacking Darwin a bit. |
| 23:42.09 | mindjuju | though peno was teasin' me for using Poweredge machines, well not teasin' but wasn't impressed |
| 23:42.16 | TuxToaster | yeah I saw that |
| 23:42.30 | TuxToaster | the raid cards used in PE machines can be problematic |
| 23:42.35 | TuxToaster | but I haven't had many complaints about them |
| 23:43.22 | TuxToaster | I haven't dealt with recent HP boxes to compare, but I've used tons of PEs as well as Intel and Supermicro boxes and they've been decent |
| 23:43.35 | TuxToaster | of the three I like Intel's the least |
| 23:43.45 | mindjuju | well heretofore, i'd say they do the job well, but i think "well" is relative and on fungus 's 192 server, i'm sure it makes mine look like a yugo |
| 23:44.52 | TuxToaster | well it depends. I've seen some of each last several years in service without any problems at all, and to me that is very good |
| 23:45.12 | mindjuju | here is what my best PE looks like that is maxed out with 64 GB memory - http://media.motortopia.com/files/13532/vehicle/4894f63a79d53/yugo.jpg |
| 23:45.17 | josephscott | how long until an intel/amd CPU box can handle 1TB of RAM? |
| 23:45.25 | TuxToaster | the PERC controllers can be a pain in terms of drivers or if an older one decides to pitch a fit, but overall they've been good machines |
| 23:46.08 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:46.20 | fungus | 95% of my servers are PEs. I love em. |
| 23:46.42 | mindjuju | here is what fungus 's server look like in comparison to mine - http://truckphoto.net/Bigfoot_Monster_Truck.jpg |
| 23:46.46 | fungus | I haven't had any major PERC issues. They work good. |
| 23:46.47 | TuxToaster | fungus: actually, question for you |
| 23:46.48 | josephscott | mmmm, guess intel already has high end boards that support 1TB |
| 23:47.02 | TuxToaster | the PE's I have at home have dead RAID batteries |
| 23:47.20 | TuxToaster | any suggestions on where to get them without spending a ton? |
| 23:47.24 | mindjuju | yeah, i just got auth to replace 2 that died on same day |
| 23:47.34 | mindjuju | the cheapest i saw was like $70 each |
| 23:47.57 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: raid batteries? |
| 23:48.11 | fungus | TuxToaster, Dell direct might be your only option. |
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| 23:48.33 | mindjuju | yup |
| 23:48.45 | TuxToaster | eh, I've seen a few places that carry them, I just need to look up which model I need for mine again |
| 23:48.46 | mindjuju | larger than a matchbox but not by much |
| 23:49.19 | fungus | I keep support contracts on most of my servers, so that kind of stuff is replaced easily and free. |
| 23:49.23 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: yeah just making sure I wasn't applying else something you were talking about to the batteries :-) |
| 23:49.50 | mindjuju | mine is the fr463 |
| 23:50.02 | TuxToaster | fungus: yeah these are ones at my house that were given to me after they were pulled from use |
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| 23:51.21 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: I saw a couple for $50 but don't recall which PE models they were for |
| 23:51.52 | mindjuju | let me know if you find something cheap3er than 50 |
| 23:52.20 | mindjuju | well boyos, i'm outty |
| 23:52.40 | TuxToaster | https://www.google.com/shopping/product/889998580705009402?hl=en&q=poweredge%20raid%20battery&bpcl=40096503&um=1&ie=UTF-8&authuser=0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.cGE&biw=1161&bih=657&sa=X&ei=LMjkUNviFMzpiQLlmIDYCA&ved=0CGAQ8wIwAQ |
| 23:52.42 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 23:52.54 | TuxToaster | main question (besides compatibility, of course) is quality on some of those |
| 23:52.57 | mindjuju | o.O |
| 23:53.48 | TuxToaster | but $42 for a PERC 5/i http://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/pid_lookup.asp?pid=143145&gclid=CO20x6LvyrQCFQhyQgodZQYAQQ |
| 23:54.03 | TuxToaster | and that one looks like it should be Dell labeled |
