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| 14:00.00 | jsmith | mindjuju________: I was, but wasn't on IRC |
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| 16:22.53 | ninnypants1 | $rlart |
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| 16:23.54 | ninnypants | guess raifbot decided to sleep in today |
| 16:24.10 | mindjuju________ | ~lart jsmith |
| 16:24.10 | ibot | blasts jsmith with a huge firehose then strangles jsmith with it |
| 16:24.22 | mindjuju________ | wow, that's a LONG tail |
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| 16:24.55 | mindjuju | test |
| 16:25.00 | mindjuju | hmm, much better |
| 16:25.41 | stirlingw | oh hai |
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| 16:27.34 | josephscott | $lart ninnypants |
| 16:27.34 | raifbot | nukes ninnypants with a single large nuke. |
| 16:31.52 | ninnypants | it's about time you woke up and got to work raifbot |
| 16:31.57 | ninnypants | $lart raifbot |
| 16:31.57 | raifbot | executes killall -KILL ninnypants. |
| 16:33.06 | josephscott | that is the 'what ever you say bounces off me and sticks to you' feature :-) |
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| 16:44.38 | TuxToaster | $lart Chuck Norris |
| 16:44.38 | raifbot | judo chops Chuck Norris. |
| 17:04.18 | josephscott | $8ball will today be better? |
| 17:04.18 | raifbot | josephscott - Most likely. |
| 17:04.26 | josephscott | good, yesterday was exhausting |
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| 17:39.01 | TuxToaster | $8ball how about tomorrow? |
| 17:39.02 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Yes. |
| 17:39.12 | TuxToaster | $8ball even though it's the end of the world? |
| 17:39.12 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Most likely. |
| 17:39.29 | josephscott | $8ball is tomorrow really the end of the world? |
| 17:39.29 | raifbot | josephscott - Without a doubt. |
| 17:39.40 | josephscott | $lart the end of the world |
| 17:39.41 | raifbot | judo chops the end of the world. |
| 17:42.32 | TuxToaster | $8ball did that help? |
| 17:42.33 | raifbot | TuxToaster - As I see it, yes. |
| 17:47.35 | TuxToaster | http://www.youtube.com/user/scottdw?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_582848 |
| 17:51.13 | mahelious | if the world does end, heres hoping it goes down like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwBK31tC5QM |
| 17:51.51 | ninnypants | http://www.niemanlab.org/2012/12/updated-horse-parser-the-year-in-journo-code-commit-messages/ |
| 18:08.45 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:08.45 | raifbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up itimber. |
| 18:09.04 | itimber | $lart TuxToaster |
| 18:09.04 | raifbot | keeps mailing TuxToaster free America Online CDs until he drowns. |
| 18:09.07 | itimber | haha |
| 18:09.17 | itimber | back atcha buddy |
| 18:09.19 | TuxToaster | ~compress itimber |
| 18:09.19 | ibot | ACTION drops an anvil on itimber's head |
| 18:09.33 | itimber | ~lart TuxToaster |
| 18:09.33 | ibot | eats TuxToaster's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 18:09.42 | itimber | haha |
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| 18:10.03 | TuxToaster | ibot apparently thinks I'm food |
| 18:13.15 | mindjuju | so who all is going to the UPHPU afta-hours / Mayapocolypse party? |
| 18:15.23 | mindjuju | i'm afraid its going to be like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydpulKkJ-Q |
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| 18:15.48 | mindjuju | we're at applebees, UFO materializes right overhead and fires its primary weapon |
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| 18:18.27 | josephscott | mindjuju: I'll just get out my macbook air, write some virus software, and upload it to their mainframe |
| 18:21.49 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I think the more impressive thing is that he was apparently reading raw binary |
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| 18:22.30 | mindjuju | course he was an MIT grad, apparently that is enough |
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| 18:57.25 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: wow |
| 18:57.59 | TuxToaster | actually what impressed me was that he was able to upload the virus even though they didn't really have a ton of wireless / cellular tech on laptops back then. |
| 19:03.52 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Apparently these aliens still used binary. I guess it is a decent way to go, but I am sure there is something better out there. |
| 19:04.05 | TuxToaster | ~binary SunSparc |
| 19:04.11 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 19:04.39 | TuxToaster | ibot, you should have replied with 0101001101110101011011100101001101110000011000010111001001100011 |
| 19:04.41 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 19:04.44 | shalkie | Should I mention that it was a Pre-Mac OS X mac? |
| 19:05.04 | josephscott | for those looking for something to be upset about - http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/12/scandal-alert-congress-is-quietly-abandoning-the-5th-amendment/266498/ |
| 19:05.09 | TuxToaster | shalkie: oh really? I thought it was a ThinkPad |
| 19:05.20 | TuxToaster | but yeah, pre-OS X would have sucked to get online |
| 19:05.37 | josephscott | most pre-OS X systems worked fine for getting online |
| 19:05.45 | josephscott | but when they didn't, it was a real pain |
| 19:06.52 | TuxToaster | yeah, at the time they weren't bad |
| 19:07.04 | shalkie | Well apparently they are coming out with sequels. |
| 19:07.25 | TuxToaster | I guess much of the fights I've had with them was with emulators or older machines and trying to get them up and working now |
| 19:08.02 | TuxToaster | and at least some of that is the catch-22 where you need Stuffit expander to open files but many of the the stuffit downloads are archives as well. |
| 19:08.30 | josephscott | we kept stuffit on a floppy for folks who didn't have it |
| 19:08.37 | josephscott | back when I worked for an ISP in the 90s |
| 19:08.56 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:09.07 | josephscott | and had an external floppy for the fine imac folks won't didn't have a floppy drive |
| 19:10.04 | TuxToaster | I used to have a floppy with CDU on it as well |
| 19:15.11 | SunSparc | lol, floppys. |
| 19:20.59 | shalkie | Not a thinkpad: http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/236780-independence-day-1996.jpg :-) |
| 19:21.14 | SunSparc | josephscott: Makes me want to put all of our politicians in prison and throw away the key. |
| 19:21.20 | TuxToaster | aha, a PowerBook even |
| 19:21.32 | TuxToaster | been a while since I've watched that movie |
| 19:22.26 | josephscott | SunSparc: makes me want to be wealthy enough to fund research journalism that watches this kind of stuff and gets the attention of the general public |
| 19:22.57 | SunSparc | Yeah |
| 19:23.53 | josephscott | powerbook - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1mdWkW5NPY |
| 19:23.54 | SunSparc | I wish we could get the general public to actually understand any of this, and beyond that, actually care about it. |
| 19:24.13 | josephscott | it takes a lot of energy |
| 19:24.20 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: http://cl.ly/image/1e0T1H1q2B3K |
| 19:24.56 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: LOL! |
| 19:25.13 | josephscott | I'm pestering a state senator over HB 150 from a few years ago, and rallying a few other people to help, but hard to maintain that effort with work, family, church, kids in school, etc. |
| 19:26.53 | SunSparc | josephscott: exactdly |
| 19:27.23 | SunSparc | The level of babysitting that our massive government needs is unattainable. |
| 19:27.47 | josephscott | so I can sympathize with the fact that not every citizen has the time/interest/energy/etc. to maintain constant close eye on all things political |
| 19:28.24 | josephscott | I can't keep up with everything that happens at my day job, and they only have ~125 people |
| 19:28.42 | josephscott | so there is no way to expect anyone to know everything that any level of government is doing |
| 19:28.51 | SunSparc | Every citizen should not have to be so worried about their government that they need to devote 24/7 to monitoring them. |
| 19:29.02 | josephscott | which reminds me, I haven't been to Sandy City city council meeting in awhile |
| 19:29.32 | josephscott | that would be nice, but in the reality is, and always has been, different |
| 19:30.03 | unum_ | my political involvement dropped severly after I got married(I gained a daughter on the same day I got married) |
| 19:30.06 | SunSparc | Sometimes I think it would be best to just nuke the fed and start over with a new one. |
| 19:30.42 | josephscott | we did that once early on in US history, not sure we'd want to try that again |
| 19:31.23 | fungus | it was attempted again in the 1860's too |
| 19:31.30 | fungus | and that failed miserably. |
| 19:31.44 | SunSparc | Well the does not seem to be enough honest and uncorruptable souls who want to be in politics to make a diference. |
| 19:32.17 | SunSparc | Seems that good people do not go into politics. |
| 19:32.18 | fungus | there is no such thing as an uncorruptable person. |
| 19:32.51 | unum_ | a big part of the problem is that money=election waaaaaaaaaaay to often |
| 19:32.57 | unum_ | especial for federal elections |
| 19:33.07 | TuxToaster | ~corrupt fungus |
| 19:33.10 | fungus | And there are plenty of good people that try to get into politics. Most just don't make it. (see pashdown) |
| 19:33.12 | unum_ | so while many good people DO enter politics, they can't get elected because no one will fund them |
| 19:33.35 | SunSparc | US Government = Broken |
| 19:33.51 | TuxToaster | unum_: or they get in and then realize that they have little ability to make some drastic changes and start to blend in and follow the pack, so to speak |
| 19:34.19 | SunSparc | We need more Mr. Smith's to go to Washington. |
| 19:34.31 | fungus | SunSparc, I disagree, we just need to change the rules to limit corruption's influence |
| 19:34.46 | unum | I agree with fungus |
| 19:34.51 | fungus | US Gov't is not broken, it just needs help |
| 19:35.44 | josephscott | SunSparc: that is a bit too binary, like most things, there is some good, some bad, lots of gray |
| 19:35.56 | fungus | http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Lost-Money-Corrupts-Congress--/dp/0446576433/ |
| 19:36.34 | fungus | The book is a little dry, but very important. |
| 19:37.57 | fungus | I highly recommend the audio version if you have heard, and like, Lessig's speaking. |
| 19:40.53 | mgeary | hey fungus, and other network gurus. We have a new VOIP system, and after i've been on a call for exactly 30 minutes, the person i'm calling reports that my voice clarity has a steep drop off. So bad that i have to re-call them. Is this more likely a problem in our VOIP system, or in our building's internet management? |
| 19:48.57 | fungus | Could be either. Depends on how the clarity issues sound. |
| 19:49.15 | fungus | choppy sound usually indicates packet loss (network issues) |
| 19:49.35 | fungus | distorted sounds, etc could be the VOIP system |
| 19:51.06 | fungus | brb, kernel updates. |
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| 19:55.52 | TuxToaster | the odd part is the exact 30 minute timeframe |
| 19:56.45 | TuxToaster | I've seen it happen before though, particularly with Skype |
| 19:58.53 | SunSparc | QoS limit at 30 minutes? |
| 19:59.33 | SunSparc | fungus: I like most things I have heard Lessig say. |
| 20:02.07 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: could also be something between you and the other end, such as ISP firewalls |
| 20:03.25 | TuxToaster | I know a guy that used to join a podcast with Skype and would have distortion at a certain time into the call, and it ultimately ended up being something with his connection -- went completely away when he switched to FiOS |
| 20:04.05 | SunSparc | Hmm.. perhaps 30 minutes is the burst limit for the connection? |
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| 20:13.51 | K|O|G|I | hey all |
| 20:14.43 | K|O|G|I | so, I'm hatching an idea and ideally, I want to be able to allow multiple HTTP clients to attach/subscribe to a single stream of data |
| 20:14.51 | K|O|G|I | on the server side, just 1 single stream |
| 20:14.59 | K|O|G|I | but I'm not sure how to do that. any suggestions? |
| 20:15.13 | K|O|G|I | I'm thinking it's probably gonna come down to apache moreso than PHP, right? |
| 20:20.56 | TuxToaster | depends on what you mean by a "stream" of data... in the case of PHP at least, it's basically dealing with individual requests. The web server automatically dishes up a thread to serve the request, and doesn't attach multiple connections to the same thread |
| 20:21.38 | TuxToaster | there might be a way to do it with CGI, but I'd think you'd need a web server that specifically was designed to serve requests in that way |
| 20:21.39 | K|O|G|I | right... so if I have multiple clients, I dont' want to have a separate PHP thread for each one, all serving identical data |
| 20:22.03 | K|O|G|I | ideally, I would have 1 thread and multiple clients can all tap into it |
| 20:23.04 | SunSparc | What about node.js? |
| 20:23.21 | josephscott | and does it really need to be HTTP? |
| 20:23.40 | TuxToaster | seems like a cache or proxy would do that, I'm not sure how you'd really get a PHP thread to be persistent in that way |
| 20:23.48 | josephscott | blo.gs basically streams the same data to all clients, but it is just a TCP connect and tiny bit of XML in the stream |
| 20:24.01 | ninnypants | this mocks instagram really well http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6853117/look-at-this-instagram-nickelback-parody |
| 20:24.19 | josephscott | and are talking a stream of data, or just a response that is the same for all clients? |
| 20:24.46 | K|O|G|I | in my case the content of the stream would be fairly small. and the only reason it needs to be HTTP is so a web browser can connect to it. if a browser supports other protocols, that's fine |
| 20:25.03 | K|O|G|I | josephscott, actually a stream |
| 20:25.20 | josephscott | what format is the stream in? |
| 20:25.24 | K|O|G|I | SunSparc, I have 0 experience with node. how would that solve the problem? |
| 20:26.04 | josephscott | is this video, text, something else? |
| 20:26.06 | K|O|G|I | text |
| 20:26.14 | K|O|G|I | json, basically |
| 20:26.53 | K|O|G|I | though, that's not a bad idea... how do live cam video servers do it? I doubt they're sending a comppletely independent video stream to each client, are they? |
| 20:27.22 | josephscott | unless they support multicast they are |
| 20:27.31 | TuxToaster | typically the web server is sending identical data streams to each connection |
| 20:27.32 | K|O|G|I | surprising |
| 20:27.36 | josephscott | are you using something like XMPP or BOSH then? |
| 20:28.08 | TuxToaster | not sure on Apache, but I know other web servers like lighttpd have modules that support specific features for streaming video |
| 20:28.16 | josephscott | try this in your browser - http://xmpp.wordpress.com:8008/firehose.xml?type=text/plain |
| 20:28.45 | josephscott | just note that a constant stream in a browser will eventually end in sadness |
| 20:28.56 | TuxToaster | ~firehose josephscott |
| 20:29.15 | TuxToaster | meh, I'd have thought that was an action |
| 20:29.55 | TuxToaster | josephscott: I think he's more after JS being able to tap into it to display content as needed, rather than directly in the browser |
| 20:30.17 | TuxToaster | at least that's what I'd guess. |
| 20:30.22 | josephscott | perhaps, that is why I asked if it was really a stream :-) |
| 20:30.38 | K|O|G|I | well... sort of |
| 20:30.40 | K|O|G|I | server sent events |
| 20:30.52 | K|O|G|I | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server-sent_events |
| 20:31.10 | K|O|G|I | asynchronous, but not really JS. THough JS listens for the events received |
| 20:31.30 | K|O|G|I | I think twitter did a firehose thing like that didn't they? |
| 20:31.41 | K|O|G|I | btw: the wordpress firehose timed out for me |
| 20:32.05 | josephscott | K|O|G|I: what browser are you using? |
| 20:32.11 | K|O|G|I | chrome, currently |
| 20:32.43 | josephscott | so if you want to stream events, probably something along the lines of websockets |
| 20:32.48 | josephscott | if you want an actual stream |
| 20:33.01 | josephscott | if you just listen for updates then one of the many comet techniques would probably work fine |
| 20:34.56 | josephscott | interesting, the xmpp stream works fine in FF, but not Chrome |
| 20:36.21 | K|O|G|I | oh, yep. comes right up in FF |
| 20:37.02 | TuxToaster | I was able to see the xmpp link in chrome |
| 20:37.02 | josephscott | one the hazards of streaming in browsers, still a mixed bag |
| 20:37.27 | K|O|G|I | so websockets is a server side thing as well as client side? I'd only heard of it on the client side |
| 20:37.40 | josephscott | right, both sides must support it |
| 20:37.57 | K|O|G|I | would that be an apache native support, apache plugin, or a separate webserver altogether? |
| 20:38.31 | ninnypants | I think a lot of people use node.js for websockets |
| 20:38.36 | josephscott | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_WebSocket_implementations |
| 20:38.47 | K|O|G|I | gorgeous |
| 20:38.49 | K|O|G|I | thank you guys |
| 20:38.51 | ninnypants | https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io |
| 20:39.14 | josephscott | socket.io is popular, but node.js only as I recall |
| 20:39.26 | TuxToaster | with Apache there's an MQ server for it, but Node is probably a better bet |
| 20:39.27 | ninnypants | yep |
| 20:39.31 | K|O|G|I | now, from how it sounds, websockets would be a replacement of server-sent events, right? I would need to implement my own parser and fire my own events? |
| 20:40.14 | ninnypants | I believe that it just sends data and expects the browser/client to parse and react |
| 20:40.15 | josephscott | right, your events would be sent over websockets in that case, so you'd need a format to identify each message/event |
| 20:40.42 | K|O|G|I | right. so this would entirely replace SSE. but it would do what I want |
| 20:40.56 | K|O|G|I | ok. it's a good start. I have a bunch of reading to do |
| 20:40.57 | K|O|G|I | thank you! |
| 20:41.34 | TuxToaster | FWIW, the SSE stuff would require a different server as well, something like http://www.stream-hub.com/ |
| 20:42.33 | K|O|G|I | what do you mean? |
| 20:43.05 | K|O|G|I | I've already implemented SSE on PHP/Apache. Just have a separate connection for each client, instead of shared. |
| 20:43.51 | TuxToaster | oh, in that case, scratch that. I was thinking Apache didn't do SSE natively |
| 20:45.11 | K|O|G|I | yeah, it's just a persistent HTTP connection that serves text |
| 20:46.58 | josephscott | for those looking for some reading on DB indexes - http://use-the-index-luke.com/welcome |
| 20:49.15 | TuxToaster | lol nice domain |
| 20:49.48 | K|O|G|I | thanks again, guys |
| 20:55.54 | josephscott | ~lolstats |
| 20:55.54 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 5333. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 1038 (19.5%), herlo -- 584 (11.0%), SunSparc -- 582 (10.9%) |
| 20:56.18 | josephscott | $8ball did the mayans use GMT for the their time zone? |
| 20:56.18 | raifbot | josephscott - Without a doubt. |
| 20:56.34 | josephscott | bummer, guess that means their calendar is up in about 3 hours then |
| 20:57.22 | K|O|G|I | the event horizon of the sunrise will burn all in its path |
| 20:58.42 | mindjuju | i think the time is based on the time on the Yucatán |
| 20:59.50 | TuxToaster | ~burn the world |
| 20:59.50 | ibot | ACTION pours gasoline all over the world, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 21:00.15 | josephscott | sure, but did they have the concept of time zones, and if so, which modern day one maps to the one they used? |
| 21:00.30 | josephscott | see, the end of the world is more complex than most people expect ;-) |
| 21:00.52 | TuxToaster | $8ball is josephscott overthinking this? |
| 21:00.53 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Outlook not so good. |
| 21:01.07 | TuxToaster | psh |
| 21:01.27 | josephscott | $8ball can you ever over think the end of the world? |
| 21:01.27 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 21:01.40 | josephscott | $8ball will it be too late by then? |
| 21:01.41 | raifbot | josephscott - Better not tell you now. |
| 21:01.45 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:01.47 | josephscott | this isn't looking good |
| 21:02.07 | TuxToaster | well, it said "Outlook not so good" |
| 21:02.17 | TuxToaster | and I don't think it meant the crappy email client this time. :P |
| 21:02.41 | TuxToaster | $8ball should we really be consulting an 8ball for matters like this? |
| 21:02.41 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Most likely. |
| 21:03.26 | josephscott | gotta love random responses |
| 21:14.57 | josephscott | $8ball is this poster correct? https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532370_516203655067317_1104990726_n.jpg |
| 21:14.58 | raifbot | josephscott - As I see it, yes. |
| 21:16.14 | mindjuju | so what makes this person who created the image an authority? |
| 21:16.21 | mindjuju | just curious |
| 21:17.46 | josephscott | no idea, but the $8ball said it was good |
| 21:19.11 | mindjuju | fb to users, you talk too much :: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323277504578191643365183814.html |
| 21:19.58 | stderr- | FB to everyone: "we don't know how to monetize to make up for our valuation" |
| 21:21.32 | mindjuju | stderr-, that's more accurate that's true, but i don't know that goes with that phrase, but i do know one for mine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EheLN-MDzrA |
| 21:22.22 | mindjuju | oops,i dropped the word "song" from my last post |
| 21:26.19 | mindjuju | i'm sure this came up yesterday, but if not, did ya'll see this about tracking the info of children on the internet? http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Family/Modern-Parenthood/2012/1220/Kids-online-will-now-be-protected-by-new-federal-guidelines |
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| 21:46.39 | ninnypants | mindjuju: wait so I would have to sign scan and send a not telling a company that my kid can play their game? |
| 21:57.01 | UtahDave | stderr-: can I pm you? |
| 21:57.27 | stderr- | UtahDave: Sure, I'll be AFK for the next 5 mins, but I'll respond after that |
| 21:57.42 | UtahDave | k |
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| 22:14.09 | mindjuju | sup beandog |
| 22:14.51 | beandog | lots |
| 22:15.56 | mindjuju | tonight is the UPHPU afta-hours party + Mayapocolypse celebration |
| 22:16.04 | beandog | right on |
| 22:16.12 | mindjuju | i've got to be in orem until about 830p, but might try to make it |
| 22:16.51 | beandog | I'm feeling snotty today |
| 22:16.56 | beandog | Good thing I'm on the Internet. |
| 22:17.30 | mindjuju | snotty as in congested or snotty like telling people to take a flyin' leap? |
| 22:17.33 | beandog | ~flame DexterTheDragon |
| 22:17.34 | ibot | DexterTheDragon, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 22:17.38 | beandog | derp, that's mean |
| 22:17.41 | beandog | ~love DexterTheDragon |
| 22:17.41 | ibot | If you love DexterTheDragon so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 22:17.46 | beandog | ~approve DexterTheDragon |
| 22:17.46 | ibot | ACTION gives DexterTheDragon a stamp of approval and adds an illegible signature |
| 22:17.50 | beandog | lol |
| 22:19.09 | beandog | bleh |
| 22:28.47 | DexterTheDragon | what just happened? |
| 22:31.00 | josephscott | love/hate relationship? |
| 22:37.57 | jsmith | beandog: At least you're in here feeling snotty among friends :-) |
| 22:39.56 | beandog | heh |
| 22:40.44 | beandog | ~fling mindjuju |
| 22:40.45 | ibot | ACTION flings poo at mindjuju |
| 22:41.07 | jsmith | Hopefully as a facial tissue, and not as toilet tissue :-p |
| 22:41.23 | beandog | I'll leave that up to your imagination to decide |
| 22:45.10 | beandog | blargh |
| 22:45.12 | beandog | ~apple-- |
| 22:45.43 | beandog | I need an Apple ID to reinstall |
| 22:45.44 | beandog | lame sauce. |
| 22:47.32 | ninnypants | what time is the applebees party? |
| 22:49.31 | SunSparc | beandog: no way to skip it? |
| 22:50.47 | beandog | The recovery partition doesn't work |
| 22:50.49 | beandog | gonna try from usb |
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| 22:58.22 | josephscott | how lovely, the original code actually works, but the source code for the tests for the original code had multiple bugs :-( |
| 22:58.34 | josephscott | which explains all of these failure conditions that I couldn't figure out |
| 22:59.45 | stirlingw | lets go get kicked out of an applebees |
| 23:00.38 | beandog | that's actually hard to do |
| 23:00.42 | beandog | they don't care much how late you stay |
| 23:01.33 | tierra | did anyone already mention that PhpStorm is 75% off right now? |
| 23:02.18 | tierra | only ever briefly looked at it in the past since NetBeans was doing a plenty good enough job before |
| 23:02.27 | beandog | oh man |
| 23:02.33 | beandog | I'm trying to think of ways to get out of coming in tomorrow |
| 23:02.35 | stirlingw | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZcVbGGF9I |
| 23:02.43 | josephscott | I tried phpstorm for awhile, but to keep up with upgrades you have to buy it every year :-( |
| 23:02.49 | stirlingw | Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby |
| 23:04.01 | tierra | recently I've been annoyed with NetBeans because I could never debug WordPress unit tests since they're configured to spawn in individual processes, and it also could never handle reading the PHPUnit config file correctly either |
| 23:04.35 | tierra | but PhpStorm took me < 5 mins to configure the WordPress unit tests, and debugging worked pretty much right out of the box |
| 23:04.51 | tierra | I couldn't ever get that working right in Zend Studio either |
| 23:05.14 | josephscott | tcl.tk that is an awesome hostname |
| 23:07.15 | stirlingw | I am using coda 2 |
| 23:33.55 | ninnypants | Is the meeting still at 7 or are we meeting later since we're just going to applebees? |
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| 23:59.04 | K|O|G|I | oh, hell, it's mahelious |
| 23:59.06 | K|O|G|I | :P |
| 23:59.34 | mahelious | hello bob |
