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16:03.13mindjujuglad i never got into instagram - http://tinyurl.com/bv6dyjz
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16:10.36mindjujuit's there under Rights, point 2 - http://instagram.com/about/legal/terms/updated/
16:10.50herlomindjuju: oh, I saw that. I've used instagram a couple times is all. Though we did consider an instagram photo booth for our wedding. At the time they only supported iphones.
16:11.11mindjujuthey get to sell / use your pics as they please
16:11.23mindjujuglad i never got into the cheese pic filters
16:11.29mindjujuooooh! sepia!!
16:11.32mindjujuyippppeee!
16:11.35herlolol
16:11.53mindjujuon the other hand, hollywood effects for ipod app rocks the casbah
16:12.05mindjujui wish they had that for android
16:12.45mindjujubrb, i'm building out another linux box to replace a winders one
16:13.01mindjujui like my life stress-free ;)
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16:38.52Benni_Hannameh
16:38.56herlo~lart Benni_Hanna
16:38.56ibotbreaks out the Hoover and sucks up Benni_Hanna
16:38.59herlo:D
16:39.38TuxToaster$lart herlo
16:39.39raifboteats herlo and falls over dead.
16:39.50herlo~lart TuxToaster
16:39.50ibotinstalls a bad bootloader on TuxToaster and turns TuxToaster into a brick
16:39.58TuxToaster~unbrick me
16:40.01herlo\o/ yay! a brick! :)
16:43.10herloTuxToaster: unfortunately, you are just a middle brick in the wall
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16:45.48TuxToasteraww
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16:46.27SunSparc~rlart
16:46.28ibottakes a big bite out of supernovia's jugular vein
16:46.30SunSparc~tuesday
16:46.30ibotTuesday is Monday number Tue.
16:46.47SunSparc~bandage supernovia
16:46.48supernoviaMmmm, veins.
16:47.20SunSparcSpeaking of veins, my kids are convinced that blood is blue before it comes out of the body.
16:48.31herloSunSparc: I can see that
16:48.39herlosounds like a fun plan for them to try. :)
16:49.07herlotoo bad you don't have a diabetic in your house. They would know very young that blood is indeed Green :)
16:49.24DexterTheDragonSunSparc: which is true if you're a crab
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17:08.12UtahDavecarmony: ping
17:08.35herlocarmony: it's a trap!
17:10.32UtahDavessh. Gosh, herlo, you're ruining my life and eating all the steaks!!!!
17:11.03herlolol
17:11.25herlo~lolstats
17:11.25ibottotal count of lol on #uphpu: 5324.  Top 3: TuxToaster -- 1035 (19.4%), herlo -- 582 (10.9%), SunSparc -- 582 (10.9%)
17:11.31herlolol
17:12.16TuxToaster$lart herlo
17:12.17raifbotshoves a crumpet down herlo's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that?!!
17:12.27SunSparcWow, I am neck and neck with herlo!
17:13.11mgearyherlo: been skiing lately? We went to Sundance on Saturday. Was really good snow, though there were only a few runs open
17:22.06herlomgeary: yes, went on Sunday to Alta again
17:22.11herlo~lart TuxToaster
17:22.11ibotthrows TuxToaster's poor little doggy off a cliff
17:22.25herloooh, poor puppy! :D
17:32.36TuxToaster~woof herlo
17:32.50TuxToasterSunSparc: morning
17:34.01herlolol @ TuxToaster
17:34.20herlo~wallop TuxToaster
17:34.21ibotACTION Grabs a rather large desk and bonks TuxToaster about the head with it.
17:36.18TuxToaster~tincan herlo
17:36.18ibotstuffs herlo into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it.
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17:41.16herloooh, that's a good one.
17:41.34herlo~dban TuxToaster
17:41.39herlo~ban TuxToaster
17:41.42herloreally?
17:41.49herlo~erase TuxToaster
17:41.49ibotACTION instructs herlo to vaporize TuxToaster with a Marvin The Martian ray gun
17:42.56TuxToaster~compress herlo
17:42.56ibotACTION drops an anvil on herlo's head
17:43.12herlo~eat TuxToaster
17:43.12ibotACTION slurps up all the TuxToaster available
17:43.24TuxToasterlol
17:43.30herlo:)
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17:55.51SunSparc~herlo herlo
17:55.51ibotACTION pokes herlo in they eye with a sharp needle
17:57.45herlo~lart SunSparc
17:57.45ibotforces SunSparc to use Outlook Express
17:57.45TuxToaster~sunsparc sunsparc
17:57.52TuxToasterapparently you are.
17:57.56herlo$beat ibot
17:58.03SunSparcWhat?!
17:58.03TuxToaster~sunsparc herself
17:58.11TuxToaster...
17:58.18TuxToaster~sunsparc herself
17:58.22TuxToaster~sunsparc sunsparc
17:58.35TuxToasterok, that was just a delayed lart
17:58.44SunSparcWhew!
17:58.46SunSparc:)
17:58.47TuxToaster~mine SunSparc
17:58.47ibotACTION breaks out an 8-bit pickaxe and starts chasing SunSparc around the world
17:58.52herlo~lart SunSparc
17:58.52ibotbreaks out the Hoover and sucks up SunSparc
17:59.09herlo~port TuxToaster
17:59.14herloahh, that'd be a good one
18:00.07TuxToasteribot, SunSparc $1 is <action>builds a really, really, really tall tower, climbs it, and drops large water balloons on $1
18:00.07ibotTuxToaster: okay
18:00.14TuxToaster~SunSparc herlo
18:00.14ibotACTION builds a really, really, really tall tower, climbs it, and drops large water balloons on herlo
18:00.21TuxToaster:D
18:00.24herlolol
18:00.25herlonice
18:00.35TuxToasterSunSparc: that work? :P
18:00.41herlo~thwack TuxToaster
18:00.41ibotACTION bludgeons TuxToaster on the head with a 5ESS Switch
18:00.55SunSparcLOL
18:00.59TuxToasterherlo: why do we even have that switch?
18:01.01SunSparc~TuxToaster++
18:01.24SunSparcI love that movie.  So many great quotes.
18:01.42TuxToasterI figured water balloons would be more fun, watermelons would probably kill somebody from that height.
18:01.44herloTuxToaster: ask ibot
18:02.03TuxToasteribot, why do we even have that switch?
18:02.03ibotwhy not?
18:02.10herlolol
18:02.15TuxToasterno, no, she has a point.
18:03.49TuxToasterSunSparc: have you ever seen the second one?
18:04.11TuxToasterit wasn't as good as the first but still funny.
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18:05.28SunSparcTuxToaster: There was a second?
18:05.41TuxToasteryup. Kronk's New Groove
18:05.47SunSparcI do my very best to avoid sequels of children's movies.
18:06.12SunSparcAnd usually sequels of all movies.
18:08.52TuxToastereh, I don't mind some
18:09.01TuxToasterbugs me when they use completely different casts though
18:09.09TuxToasteror replace the main actor but keep the character the same
18:10.16SunSparcPrime example, Land Before Time.  Great flick.  The 25+ sequels?  Not worth my time.
18:10.29TuxToasterthe Kronk one was funny though, I've watched it a time or two
18:10.52SunSparcWell, if you think so, I may have to give it a go.
18:10.54SunSparc:)
18:10.55TuxToasteryeah, they do regurgitate a lot of the same story
18:13.28TuxToasterI want to say there was one movie that I liked the sequel better. Can't remember what it is off hand though
18:14.11TuxToastermy wife's love of books usually makes her say the book was better to most any movie... though there have been a few that she liked the movies better (particularly if the author of the book didn't tell the story very well)
18:16.05SunSparcYeah, I usually think stories are told better in books than movies.  Especially these days where the movies at not stories at all, just CGI action.  Leaves nothing to the imagination whatsoever.
18:18.49TuxToasterand when most of them use the same shots over and over
18:19.06SunSparcYeah
18:20.28TuxToasterlove spoofs like that 3D movie trailer that point it out
18:20.42TuxToasterbut unfortunately it won't make it any better
18:21.35SunSparcMoney talks.  People still pay for crappy movies.
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19:38.40SunSparc~lart hiccups
19:38.40ibotfarts in hiccups's general direction
19:38.52SunSparcUmm... gross, ibot.
19:39.00SunSparc~hiccup ibot
19:41.41SunSparcibot: make me rich
19:41.41ibotmake: *** No rule to make target `me rich'.  Stop.
19:42.04SunSparcibot: give SunSparc 1 billion dollars
19:42.05ibotACTION gives 1 billion dollars to SunSparc
19:58.35fungus~make install
19:58.35ibotmake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
20:06.21TuxToasterSunSparc: scared to know what that paint job might look like
20:06.31TuxToasterunless it's just pixelated looking
20:06.44TuxToasterbut a Mini seems like you'd need some body work to make it more blocky
20:07.15SunSparcTuxToaster: heh, probably like a block of grass :)
20:07.26SunSparcPixelated of course, like the Minecraft logo.
20:09.16mgeary~pity SunSparc's taste
20:09.16ibotI pity da fool SunSparc's taste!
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20:12.53SunSparc~lol mgeary
20:12.53ibotACTION Laughs out Loud at mgeary
20:37.39carmonyjsmith: ping
20:44.45TuxToaster$rlart
20:44.45raifbotjudo chops kendsnyder.
20:44.58jsmithcarmony: pong!
20:46.00herlo~lart TuxToaster
20:46.00ibotchops TuxToaster in half with a free Solaris 7 CD
20:46.09josephscott$8ball can anyone hide from herlo?
20:46.10raifbotjosephscott - Outlook not so good.
20:46.28TuxToaster~lart herlo
20:46.28ibotshoves a crumpet down herlo's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that?
20:46.30herlomuaahhaaahaahaaahaaa!
20:46.38herlo~whalepoo TuxToaster
20:46.45herlo~whalepoop TuxToaster
20:46.45ibotACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at TuxToaster
20:46.49UtahDave~tunafart herlo
20:46.49ibotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to herlo, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
20:46.53TuxToasterI was kinda hoping you'd get chopped in half with an AOL CD
20:46.54herlo~monkey TuxToaster
20:46.54ibotACTION flings poo at TuxToaster
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21:14.45beandogCan MySQL create indexes across tables?
21:15.32beandogI'm trying to optimize this query .. it's running OR statements across tables, searching varchars.  EXPLAIN says it's not using any keys, once I start running OR on another table.
21:15.37beandogI have no idea how to optimize this.
21:15.38beandog-_-
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21:33.02macnewboldbeandog: usually you'd put keys on both tables if it's used in a foreign key
21:33.13macnewboldmysql indexes do nicely on varchars
21:40.05fungus~index beandog
21:40.19fungus~optimize beandog
21:49.08TuxToaster~compress beandog
21:49.08ibotACTION drops an anvil on beandog's head
21:49.30TuxToasterbeandog: OR statements will almost never use indexes
21:50.23TuxToasterif all columns involved are indexed then there are some instances where it might, but in general OR has a tendency to be a huge hit on performance
21:50.45TuxToasterbecause it has to pretty much scan everything to see if it matches this, or this, or that, or this other one.
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22:26.53macnewboldyou might be able to play with some options - doing the OR in a JOIN … ON … clause vs doing it in a WHERE at the very end, for example. In some datasets, limiting the dataset before the join will have a huge benefit, where in others, you might get more benefit by doing the join using an index, and then limiting down the results later.
22:27.04macnewboldfridgesm might have some good advice too beandog
22:28.04fridgesmbeandog - what MySQL version are you using?
22:28.32beandog5.1
22:28.35beandogI figured out the issue
22:28.44beandogGonna use UNIONs and probably stored procs
22:28.50beandogand the queries weren't using indexes properly
22:28.59beandogGonna try and move it to Percona 5.5 at the same time.
22:29.56beandogmacnewbold: that sounds interesting ..
22:30.05beandogHmm
22:30.35beandogTuxToaster: yah, it's not, when I go across tables. -_- lamesauce.
22:31.23fridgesmI know MariaDB 5.5+ has the ability to merge indexes, not sure if MySQL 5.5 does
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22:43.10beandogIs there a way to do fast lookups on strings with %name%
22:43.17beandogI know prefixed '%' drops using the index
22:43.18beandogbut
22:43.19beandogI want it.
22:43.20beandog:(
22:47.09fridgesmIf it's MyISAM, you can use full-text search
22:47.23fridgesmIt's not great, but it is better than doing %name%
22:47.38fridgesmIt's better to use something like Sphinx, Lucene, etc
22:48.17beandogyah, myisam + fulltext wasn't yielding great results
22:48.29beandogfridgesm: okay I'll check those out
22:50.07TuxToasterhttp://9gag.com/gag/6110773
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22:59.30stderr-*sigh* gun prices are ridiculous right now
23:08.19poeticintensitycrap, really?
23:08.43poeticintensityI'm in the market for a springfield XDM....
23:10.21stderr-poeticintensity: yea Obama's reelection + the talk of a AWB-style ban + Christmas, it's ridiculous.  I'd wait a couple months.
23:10.36poeticintensityGood call....
23:10.59stderr-while you wait I can let you try some of my polymer handguns, although I don't have an XDM.  Just got an M&P 9 as an early Xmas present from the wife to add to my collection.
23:11.01poeticintensityAny thoughts on the talks of banning guns?
23:11.23poeticintensityright on!  How do you like it?
23:11.36stderr-I wish we could have a sane conversation about gun control instead of both sides seeing everything in black and white.
23:12.09stderr-And I think mental health reform and the media coverage these sorts of things propel should be addressed, as well
23:12.41poeticintensityyeah... I've got mixed feelings about the media coverage, too.
23:13.20stderr-poeticintensity: Haven't even shot it yet, but I've shot them before.  Probably the most ergonomic 9 out there, in my opinion.  I like it better than equivalent polymer guns, Glock, PX4, XDM
23:14.01stderr-only weak point is the trigger, but you can fix that with aftermarket products.
23:14.25poeticintensityhmm.... gonna have to research that one....
23:15.36stderr-we should go to Get Some after the holidays
23:15.50stderr-you can try some of mine and you can rent any others you might be interested in.  try before you buy and all that.
23:16.24stderr-are you RH?
23:40.13poeticintensityRH?
23:40.16poeticintensityI'm in UT... ?)
23:40.17poeticintensity:)
23:40.43poeticintensityI'd love to see yours, though.  That would be awesome.
23:40.51poeticintensityDid you ever move back to SLC?
23:41.03poeticintensity(stderr-^^^)
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23:51.52*** part/#uphpu Benni_Hanna (~Benni_Han@neutroninteractive-xmission.xmission.com)
23:51.53beandogstderr-: mental health reform?
23:51.56beandoglike what
23:55.01poeticintensityI think he might be talking about the recent Connecticut shootings, and that the shooter might have been mentally challenged.
23:55.23poeticintensitymentally challenged people with access to guns is usually a bad idea.
23:56.37poeticintensitynot sure that's what he was talking about, though.
23:56.49beandoghmm
23:58.12beandogthe whole thing is sad.
23:58.41beandogI could only function partway for the day I found out

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