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| 16:28.31 | josephscott | hopefully you are limiting MySQL network access, but if you aren't, good time to update - http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-5611 |
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| 16:44.30 | TuxToaster | good call |
| 16:44.34 | TuxToaster | even if you are. |
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| 16:50.30 | mindjuju_ | hmm, did gmail go down? |
| 16:51.44 | mindjuju_ | uh oh, downforeveryoneorjustme.com reporting google down |
| 16:52.17 | DexterTheDragon | well it's lying |
| 16:53.15 | DexterTheDragon | google's working. gmail not so much it seems |
| 16:53.29 | josephscott | gmail still working for me, for now |
| 16:54.11 | mindjuju_ | http://screencast.com/t/iXIdldhddqdL |
| 16:55.17 | josephscott | 502, bad code update on their end? |
| 16:55.36 | mindjuju_ | i'm glad to see it, personally |
| 16:55.53 | josephscott | ? |
| 16:55.58 | mindjuju_ | if they can go down, then it reduces expectations for the rest of us |
| 16:56.11 | mindjuju_ | ; |
| 16:56.14 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 16:57.07 | mindjuju_ | in other news, my padawan has burned through all but 6hrs of his yearly allocation already, and he's decided to go back to school starting in January |
| 16:57.14 | mindjuju_ | oh, and he has a newborn |
| 16:57.18 | mindjuju_ | like 3months old |
| 16:57.39 | mindjuju_ | this is going to be a painful 11 months for him :( |
| 17:00.09 | herlo | wow, I recall those days |
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| 17:00.59 | mindjuju_ | when you're a supastar like herlo, every feast is a banquet and every day is vacation |
| 17:01.09 | mindjuju_ | :) |
| 17:01.14 | herlo | heh |
| 17:01.46 | mindjuju_ | yeah, i'm getting gmail 502 off and on |
| 17:01.51 | herlo | mindjuju_: those days I speak of were not all that long ago... |
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| 17:02.34 | mindjuju_ | oh about the kiddo |
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| 17:02.48 | mindjuju_ | i thought you meant back when you weren't supastar |
| 17:03.57 | herlo | mindjuju_: lol, I did it 12 years ago too |
| 17:04.00 | mindjuju_ | i don't use my vacation time, just bank it until its an emergency |
| 17:04.05 | herlo | and then I was in school |
| 17:04.10 | mindjuju_ | err, it's |
| 17:04.47 | mindjuju_ | i mean with finals in 5 months for him, and then the baby, baby is gonna get sick, go hospital, all babies do |
| 17:05.36 | mindjuju_ | prolly not the best planning, or he's planning on dropping work in January and burning a year's worth before he goes |
| 17:05.36 | herlo | mine only started in the hostpital, hasn't been back... |
| 17:05.46 | herlo | s/hostp/hosp/ |
| 17:10.53 | josephscott | oh no, now I'm getting the gmail 502s! |
| 17:11.14 | mindjuju_ | $8ball did i jinx everybody gmail? |
| 17:11.20 | herlo | josephscott sings the blues! |
| 17:11.39 | mindjuju_ | so this is how it started, first twinkies then gmail |
| 17:11.46 | mindjuju_ | thus started the Mayapocolypse! |
| 17:11.59 | herlo | lol |
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| 17:13.28 | josephscott | $8ball will gmail survive? |
| 17:13.28 | raifbot | josephscott - It is certain. |
| 17:13.31 | josephscott | woot! |
| 17:16.52 | skinner | $8ball Can I not have a headache now? |
| 17:16.52 | raifbot | skinner - Yes. |
| 17:17.07 | skinner | $8ball Make it so. |
| 17:17.07 | raifbot | skinner - Don't count on it. |
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| 17:31.45 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 17:31.45 | ibot | drops a truckload of VAXen on Monnok |
| 17:31.57 | Monnok | woot, free VAXen |
| 17:47.29 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:08.28 | mindjuju | herlo, fungus, peno, either of you around? |
| 18:08.35 | herlo | mindjuju: hi |
| 18:08.55 | mindjuju | i want to talk some server best practice, oh awesome, k here goes |
| 18:09.41 | mindjuju | i had an image server that ws running centos 5.4. i recently patched it and on reboot the hdds don't come back = foob |
| 18:10.04 | mindjuju | so, this was last week |
| 18:10.29 | mindjuju | the primary website has a backup of the image server's data so i kicked the IP to it and we were back up, so that is all done, but here is my q |
| 18:11.22 | mindjuju | i'm rebuilding my image server today, do i want to put it back as centos 5.4? should i bump up to the latest and greatest centos? |
| 18:11.47 | mindjuju | i have the configs backed up, so i technically could put humpty dumpty back together again pretty close if not exact to how it was |
| 18:11.53 | mindjuju | but is that the best practice? |
| 18:12.37 | herlo | mindjuju: best practice would be to try to move to the latest imo. Problems with that are that you might have software that hasn't been updated to CentOS 6.3 |
| 18:12.58 | herlo | but another best practice would be to standardize on something and make devs conform |
| 18:13.13 | mindjuju | so on that, this was a simple image server, no php scripts |
| 18:13.25 | herlo | another good practice is to do a lot of testing and move to later release |
| 18:13.34 | mindjuju | so as long as apache can dish 'em out, we're good |
| 18:13.45 | TuxToaster | best practice I usually follow when building a box is to use the latest stable version that's suitable for the environment. |
| 18:13.47 | mindjuju | i would love to standardize to one platform of centos |
| 18:13.48 | herlo | mindjuju: right, so if no serious code is involved, just like ftp/rsync/ssh or something similar, you should be good |
| 18:14.07 | mindjuju | right now i have a 5.4, a 5.8 no wait 2 5.8 |
| 18:14.10 | herlo | mindjuju: the software that delivers the images is what you should concern yourself with |
| 18:14.22 | herlo | but that's just a suggestion |
| 18:14.26 | mindjuju | yup |
| 18:14.33 | herlo | 5.x will be EOLd soon enough |
| 18:14.39 | mindjuju | no, i think you're right and i'm not under the gun, so i have time |
| 18:14.43 | peno | i'd suggest virtualizing the build server, and mount what you need over nas/san. |
| 18:15.25 | herlo | s/oint/point/ |
| 18:15.29 | mindjuju | is that so i could spin a twin if i need? |
| 18:15.31 | peno | then with whatever vm solution you pick, setup snapshots |
| 18:15.50 | herlo | mindjuju: for sure |
| 18:15.59 | herlo | you could mount the san wherever, it's rather easy |
| 18:16.25 | mindjuju | these boxen are dedicated servers at liquidweb |
| 18:16.30 | herlo | you could even have the san manage the vm data and the images data separately. Probably the best practice there |
| 18:16.34 | Monnok | lol boxen |
| 18:16.44 | Monnok | yeah |
| 18:16.55 | peno | lw should be responsible for backups |
| 18:17.00 | Monnok | so few ppl i know, know where thats from, or why its funny |
| 18:17.10 | SunSparc | ~boxen herlo |
| 18:17.19 | herlo | mindjuju: does that mean you do not have san backed storage? |
| 18:17.33 | mindjuju | herlo, i don't |
| 18:18.07 | herlo | mindjuju: one thought could be a third box to manage that yourself. tgtd isn't hard to setup on CentOS/RHEL |
| 18:18.54 | herlo | snaps of LVMs aren't hard either and could provide your backups easily |
| 18:19.20 | herlo | probably more complex than what you have now, but if you are doing backups between two servers, iscsi seems better imo |
| 18:23.30 | TuxToaster | ~give mindjuju more boxen |
| 18:23.30 | ibot | ACTION gives more boxen to mindjuju |
| 18:27.43 | herlo | mindjuju: think of it this way, you would have less cron jobs and rsyncs between boxes, which in turn, reduces network load. The box with tgtd on it would only have one cron job that would snapshot the lvm and do a backup to another server somewhere |
| 18:27.59 | herlo | the only rsync you have :) |
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| 19:23.50 | ninnypants | the new notebooks I just bought are water and bbgun proof http://fieldnotesbrand.com/expedition/ |
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| 19:35.52 | UtahDave | ~tunafart herlo |
| 19:35.53 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to herlo, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 19:36.04 | herlo | ~thwap UtahDave |
| 19:36.04 | ibot | ACTION thwaps UtahDave on the nose with a 2 by 4 |
| 19:36.16 | herlo | ~kasplode UtahDave |
| 19:36.22 | herlo | ~asplode UtahDave |
| 19:36.22 | ibot | UtahDave head asplode, k thx |
| 19:36.39 | herlo | lol |
| 19:36.44 | UtahDave | :) |
| 20:02.06 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:02.06 | raifbot | beats utahcon senseless with a 50lb Unix manual. |
| 20:02.34 | TuxToaster | $8ball bit slow on the uptake today? |
| 20:02.35 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Signs point to yes. |
| 20:09.02 | TuxToaster | http://gizmodo.com/5965143/holy-spock-the-star-trek-medical-tricorder-is-real-and-its-only-150 |
| 20:44.30 | mgeary | anyone here have a Roomba or such? |
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| 21:34.37 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:34.37 | raifbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at jsmith. |
| 21:35.07 | jsmith | TuxToaster: nice try... |
| 21:35.11 | jsmith | $lart TuxToaster |
| 21:35.12 | raifbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at TuxToaster . |
| 21:35.16 | josephscott | $8ball hockey mask left over from halloween? |
| 21:35.16 | raifbot | josephscott - You may rely on it. |
| 21:35.21 | josephscott | haha |
| 21:35.21 | jsmith | Totally lame... |
| 21:35.27 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 21:35.27 | raifbot | steals optikal_'s mojo. |
| 21:35.35 | josephscott | $8ball lack of randomness today? |
| 21:35.35 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 21:39.00 | TuxToaster | ~entropy raifbot |
| 21:39.00 | ibot | ACTION randomizes raifbot. |
| 21:40.17 | josephscott | $8ball did that help? |
| 21:40.17 | raifbot | josephscott - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 21:40.50 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you just being stubborn today? |
| 21:40.50 | raifbot | TuxToaster - My reply is no. |
| 21:41.09 | TuxToaster | so, is that a yes? lol |
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| 23:17.06 | josephscott | awesome quote of the day http://asay.blogspot.com/2012/12/some-things-are-better-left-unsaid.html |
| 23:51.03 | mindjuju | i absolutely love it when you ask soembody to cite specific examples of something and they reply in further generalities |
| 23:51.10 | mindjuju | just puts a small on my face |
| 23:51.43 | mindjuju | it's just sheer gravy if they use big words to offer the further general explination |
| 23:54.34 | UtahDave | but, mindjuju, big words are longer and take longer to say. |
| 23:56.38 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: how big a small does it put on your face? |
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| 23:57.45 | mindjuju | huge smile |
| 23:59.10 | mindjuju | well gents and ladies, i go to meet my fate |