| 00:10.44 | supernovia | ~seen mindjuju |
| 00:10.52 | ibot | mindjuju is currently on #utos (8h 44m 23s) #utah (8h 44m 23s) #uphpu (8h 44m 23s). Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 2h 46m 6s, last said: 'save on crashing drones all over the place'. |
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| 16:04.22 | mindjuju__ | ~apb TuxToaster |
| 16:04.23 | ibot | ACTION hires baby Lyssa to find TuxToaster |
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| 16:08.20 | TuxToaster | ~pong mindjuju__ |
| 16:08.21 | ibot | mindjuju__: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:09.01 | mindjuju__ | hi TuxToaster, i found this on my morning skim of news |
| 16:09.03 | mindjuju__ | http://legocuusoo.posterous.com/lego-minecraft-micro-world-stock-update |
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| 16:09.56 | TuxToaster | awesome. Still not sure I want to pay very much for them after seeing the size comparison, but good to know that they are doing more. |
| 16:10.25 | mindjuju | well, you know, what ever makes ya happy, but you're right they are small |
| 16:10.30 | TuxToaster | I might get them to use as part of the decorations for my basement, which is going to be mostly video games |
| 16:11.44 | mindjuju | Li Mu Bai i spent $15 ~ 20 on? REALLY wanted it |
| 16:12.10 | mindjuju | oh and a homer simpson standing on a bomb and some tron stuff |
| 16:12.32 | mindjuju | then again, I won't tell you how much i spent to get the special glow in the dark daft punk / tron poster |
| 16:12.44 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 16:13.22 | TuxToaster | I can imagine |
| 16:13.44 | TuxToaster | my wife spent just over $100 getting me vinyl sticker sets a couple years ago |
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| 16:13.56 | TuxToaster | Mario, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, etc |
| 16:15.11 | TuxToaster | for Christmas this year I'm getting Link's sword and shield to hang on the wall, and I've got a couple decks of Zelda-themed playing cards that I'm going to frame |
| 16:15.24 | TuxToaster | so when I get around to finishing the basement it's going to rock. :-) |
| 16:15.46 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
| 16:15.56 | mindjuju | zelda sword and shield, i'll have to look that up |
| 16:16.15 | TuxToaster | (not to mention I've got the big green arcade cabinet that used to be in Code Greene, which is going to get built into a custom MAME type cabinet eventually) |
| 16:16.20 | TuxToaster | one sec, I'll get you links |
| 16:16.45 | TuxToaster | http://www.trueswords.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=zelda&search_in_description=1&x=0&y=0 |
| 16:16.47 | TuxToaster | both of those |
| 16:17.01 | TuxToaster | the shield is solid metal, good weight to it |
| 16:17.06 | TuxToaster | came with a mounting bracket |
| 16:17.33 | TuxToaster | ok so it says it's fiberglass in the description. Felt like metal to me. heh. |
| 16:19.22 | TuxToaster | the playing cards are these http://www.fangamer.net/products/cards-of-legend |
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| 17:03.56 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 17:03.56 | raifbot | tries to shut kendsnyder up. |
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| 17:07.32 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I need some good working music that I can loop any recommendations? |
| 17:09.35 | macnewbold | turntable.fm - you might like coding soundtrack or the dubstep channel |
| 17:10.01 | ninnypants | macnewbold: hmm I haven't been in dubstep in a while so that could be a good idea |
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| 17:37.33 | TuxToaster | What if you strapped C4 to a boomerang? Could this be an effective weapon, or would it be as stupid as it sounds? |
| 17:37.39 | TuxToaster | Aerodynamics aside, I’m curious what tactical advantage you’re expecting to gain by having the high explosive fly back at you if it misses the target. |
| 17:38.15 | Monnok | whats wrong with the grenade? |
| 17:38.32 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://rt.com/usa/news/surveillance-spying-e-mail-citizens-178/ |
| 17:38.59 | ninnypants | yeah I didn't get why a boomerang with c4 would ever seem like a good idea |
| 17:40.26 | TuxToaster | my only guess is maybe he was hoping that he could throw it around corners or something, since boomerangs typically have a bit of curvature |
| 17:41.41 | TuxToaster | still, the lack of accuracy would be scary |
| 17:42.02 | TuxToaster | and it would end up looking something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDpuNrA55-A |
| 17:50.08 | macnewbold | i'd probably be happier with a c4 frisbee than a c4 boomerang |
| 17:50.26 | macnewbold | still get around corners and such, easier to control, and much lower risk of it returning near to you |
| 17:51.07 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:51.39 | TuxToaster | not to mention, even if the C4 doesn't work, you can still whack somebody pretty good with it |
| 18:03.02 | mindjuju | they are all winders 8 servers with nearly 99.99999% downtime |
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| 18:28.21 | TuxToaster | ~ddos mindjuju's servers |
| 18:28.21 | ibot | ACTION about to DOS mindjuju's servers just for fun "Take that" |
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| 18:44.23 | mindjuju__ | it's my turn to anger somebody and watch them fume for a while!! |
| 18:44.31 | mindjuju__ | heya mgeary -> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/01/walmart-health-care-policy-medicaid-obamacare_n_2220152.html |
| 18:46.34 | mindjuju__ | i wonder if there is another side to this though? |
| 18:48.02 | herlo | mindjuju__: um, yeah, that's been expected for a while |
| 18:48.32 | mindjuju__ | yup :( |
| 18:48.57 | herlo | mindjuju__: and thus, my reasoning is emboldened again for not shopping there. I do feel for the part-timers, however. |
| 18:50.02 | mindjuju__ | while this post is from huffpo and so sided politically to the left, i wonder in what light this could seem reasonable or good |
| 18:50.34 | mindjuju__ | just looking for somehwere on the spectrum where this might make sense or be a good thing |
| 18:50.58 | mindjuju__ | cause as far as i can stretch my brain, i can't see anything but corporatism and greed |
| 18:54.59 | Monnok | who else actually offers health coverage to part-timers? |
| 18:56.08 | mindjuju__ | hmm, good question Monnok |
| 18:57.01 | stderr- | Costco. |
| 18:57.20 | stderr- | Target. |
| 18:57.35 | stderr- | Land's End. |
| 18:57.42 | stderr- | Whole Foods. |
| 18:57.49 | stderr- | Home Depot. |
| 18:57.53 | stderr- | UPS. |
| 18:58.01 | stderr- | Starbucks. |
| 18:58.16 | stderr- | so I guess y'know, some do. |
| 18:58.49 | mindjuju__ | sorry had to step away for a moment |
| 18:59.07 | stderr- | I got an interview, brb |
| 19:06.23 | fungus | We don't count socialist companies like those. ;) |
| 19:07.28 | TuxToaster | Target offers health coverage to part time employees? |
| 19:07.38 | stderr- | yea |
| 19:07.41 | TuxToaster | wow |
| 19:07.51 | TuxToaster | back when I worked retail that was practically non-existant |
| 19:10.49 | mindjuju__ | first three paras are hot air against huffpo ...sigh... can't we just get some facts? |
| 19:15.40 | clondon | Anyone know how to make a data table with a fixed column on the left AND a fixed header row on top? |
| 19:15.51 | clondon | … without having an onscroll listener? |
| 19:23.48 | TuxToaster | good luck with that |
| 19:23.55 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:24.57 | TuxToaster | you could do it by having a separate fixed table but getting the grids to match up would be challenging |
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| 19:28.48 | clondon | yeah I'm racking my brain over it :S |
| 19:38.24 | TuxToaster | apparently the racking did him in |
| 19:41.18 | DexterTheDragon | and just when I was going to give him an answer |
| 20:05.33 | TuxToaster | yeah, I was going to roll over and help him but he's not at his desk either. |
| 20:07.19 | DexterTheDragon | maybe aliens got him |
| 20:08.08 | SunSparc | Death by rack. Infamous in the middle ages. |
| 20:08.11 | TuxToaster | I don't remember seeing any beams of light... but possible. |
| 20:08.14 | SunSparc | ~mourn clandon |
| 20:08.15 | ibot | ACTION lights some candles for clandon |
| 20:08.21 | TuxToaster | http://imgur.com/4reoi |
| 20:08.53 | SunSparc | What the?! What did that guy eat? |
| 20:09.48 | TuxToaster | he must have had that new burger in London |
| 20:09.50 | TuxToaster | you hear about it? |
| 20:10.44 | TuxToaster | http://www.foodista.com/blog/2012/12/04/the-atomic-fallout-burger-will-induce-heartburn |
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| 20:13.43 | ezkl | Hi friends. |
| 20:19.20 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Wow! That makes me hungry. |
| 20:19.27 | SunSparc | ~greet ezkl |
| 20:19.27 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on ezkl |
| 20:19.51 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: farewell to your internal organs. |
| 20:20.11 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:20.34 | SunSparc | My internal organs are used to spicy. I bet I could handle it. |
| 20:20.39 | TuxToaster | my thought is if you can't touch it with your bare hands, WHY would you ever consider eating it? |
| 20:21.03 | TuxToaster | I'm all for spicy foods, just seems like something hot enough to burn your skin is a bit too hot. |
| 20:22.26 | TuxToaster | makes you wonder if they still are required, after the waver and all, to stamp "CAUTION: HOT" on the burger. |
| 20:27.04 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:27.51 | SunSparc | Yeah, well, you may have a point there. Although, I am careful about handling hot peppers with my hands because they do irritate the skin, but I happily ingest them without concern. |
| 20:29.52 | SunSparc | Oh man, I really want to try that burger. |
| 20:37.01 | ezkl | http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2012/12/04/intellipaper-adds-a-disposable-usb-drive-to-your-business-card-flyer-or-brochure/ USB paper anyone? |
| 20:39.42 | fungus | dude, I'm not putting some strange usb device I found on a business card or magazine into my computer. |
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| 20:41.05 | fungus | That's just as bad as passing floppies around |
| 20:41.15 | TuxToaster | fungus: agreed |
| 20:41.38 | TuxToaster | the foldable paper practically makes them "floppy" even |
| 20:42.04 | TuxToaster | luckily you never had someone had you a 3.5" floppy and say "Here's my business card" |
| 20:42.14 | TuxToaster | (at least I hope not) |
| 20:42.21 | fungus | Now QR, RFID, NFC tag would be ok. Because they just share non-executable data. |
| 20:42.54 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 20:43.04 | fungus | No, but I have seen floppies inside magazines, often. |
| 20:43.12 | ezkl | They hold only 5.1 mb, and each one costs $0.50 |
| 20:43.14 | fungus | (usually AOL disks) |
| 20:43.29 | TuxToaster | now if that were a different spec from a USB disk |
| 20:43.45 | TuxToaster | that would be okay. Say something you plug in that is intended to launch a read-only viewer |
| 20:43.58 | TuxToaster | but even that could potentially cause problems |
| 20:45.02 | fungus | Now maybe something similar to a yubikey that acts as a keyboard and spews text. Maybe... |
| 20:45.24 | fungus | but even then, that's got some scary attack vectors too |
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| 20:50.30 | fungus | But the technology of using paper USB connections is cool. Like keeping emergency data in your wallet. |
| 20:51.17 | ezkl | From an enviromental standpoint it seems like an awesome technology. |
| 20:52.01 | fungus | yeah that too. I just don't like the idea of promiscuous sharing of potentially executable data. |
| 20:53.16 | TuxToaster | also could make a PCI compliance nightmare |
| 20:53.25 | TuxToaster | mind you 5MB isn't much |
| 20:53.37 | fungus | It's huge in terms of virus sizes |
| 20:57.47 | fungus | even Stuxnet which was an enormous virus, relatively, could fit many times over in that size. |
| 21:04.58 | ezkl | Yea, but the company makes you order a min of 6000 at a time. So chances are a person isn't going to spend $3,000 plus on spreading a virus. |
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| 21:18.01 | josephscott | usb paper, that is way cool |
| 21:24.13 | mindjuju | ~waycool josephscott |
| 21:33.37 | fungus | ezkl, really? you don't understand the economic benefits of viruses these days. |
| 21:33.53 | josephscott | keystroke loggers ftw |
| 21:34.07 | josephscott | oh, and spam of course :-) |
| 21:34.41 | mindjuju | ~spam fungus |
| 21:34.42 | ibot | ACTION subscribes fungus to every possible mailing list he can find on the 'net AND arranges for fungus to get at least 50 snail mail spams a day |
| 21:34.52 | fungus | exactly. |
| 21:35.26 | ezkl | Well ofcourse I do, but your average script kiddie isn't going to want to spend 3k. |
| 21:36.04 | josephscott | also keep in mind that cost will likely drop significantly if these prove useful/popular |
| 21:36.12 | ezkl | Anything at the very beginning is going to have low to zero security. Take RFID for example. |
| 21:36.31 | DexterTheDragon | RFID still has zero security |
| 21:36.44 | fungus | RFID isn't intended for security. |
| 21:37.03 | josephscott | sure it is, they just call it NFC now ;-) |
| 21:37.11 | fungus | USB is very sensitive. (see windows autorun) |
| 21:37.19 | fungus | RFID is not |
| 21:56.32 | TuxToaster | yeah, if your PC has an RFID reader of some kind, it's likely not going to launch some executable code stored on an RFID chip, which often has very very little space on it for data |
| 21:57.10 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:57.10 | raifbot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on romanovic. |
| 21:57.21 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 21:57.21 | raifbot | Chuck Norris' hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush. |
| 21:57.34 | TuxToaster | ~flush Monnok |
| 21:57.35 | ibot | ACTION flushes Monnok like Monnok was yesterday's lunch |
| 21:58.06 | TuxToaster | oookay. |
| 21:58.15 | ezkl | okay okay... bad example. Maybe bluetooth is better? |
| 21:58.34 | TuxToaster | ezkl: kinda the same premise |
| 21:59.41 | TuxToaster | the advantage of the USB paper things is you can quickly and easily share info. Your average Joe isn't going to need much help to use it |
| 21:59.41 | ezkl | Better than dead drops? lol http://deaddrops.com/ |
| 21:59.45 | TuxToaster | just plug it in and it shows up |
| 22:00.10 | TuxToaster | stuff like RFID, BT, etc. are going to at minimum require some kind of paring or setup, if not specialized hardware just to use them. |
| 22:00.39 | TuxToaster | but on the flip side the fact that USB is so easy because it gets opened up automatically as a filesystem is what makes it inherently insecure |
| 22:01.54 | TuxToaster | QR codes to a good job at getting the information out there in a way that is less problematic, but they are still confusing to many non-technical people and are completely useless if you don't have a camera or scanner that can read them |
| 22:02.06 | ezkl | If coming from a repuatble company thought you would probably use a usb |
| 22:02.39 | fungus | TuxToaster, we already have a solution for that. QR codes, that's pretty widely known and easy use already |
| 22:03.07 | TuxToaster | fungus: yeah, that's what I was saying. But they also haven't taken off the way many would like |
| 22:03.47 | TuxToaster | like take my mother-in-law. School teacher, so-so on literacy (She can use a computer without much problem, but still struggles when it doesn't work as expected) |
| 22:03.49 | mindjuju | ~takeoff TuxToaster |
| 22:03.55 | TuxToaster | give her a QR code, she has no idea what to do with it |
| 22:04.15 | TuxToaster | give her a USB device of some kind, she likely will plug it in |
| 22:04.27 | Monnok | ~tuxtoaster TuxToaster |
| 22:04.28 | ibot | ACTION pours gas all over TuxToaster, stands back and tosses a match |
| 22:04.29 | mindjuju | they may not be a safe inclination |
| 22:04.30 | TuxToaster | though a piece of paper with contacts on it, she probably wouldn't recognize as USB |
| 22:05.18 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: it's not, agreed. But hey, at least I convinced her to stop using IE. |
| 22:05.27 | TuxToaster | I've had many fewer support calls since. |
| 22:05.36 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:06.19 | TuxToaster | she was one of these people: http://img2.joyreactor.com/pics/post/auto-browser-toolbar-345712.jpeg |
| 22:06.31 | mindjuju | love it |
| 22:06.57 | TuxToaster | ... on a pentium class Gateway 2000 tower, running Windows XP. |
| 22:07.19 | mindjuju | gateway > emachine |
| 22:07.36 | mindjuju | which was the one that had cowprint? |
| 22:07.43 | TuxToaster | finally convinced her to can IE when she realized that even after buying a brand new machine, she started having problems within weeks of using it |
| 22:08.02 | TuxToaster | tons of crap kept getting installed |
| 22:08.10 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:14.29 | ezkl | No IE is a win in my book |
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| 22:22.27 | TuxToaster | ~tincan Monnok |
| 22:22.27 | ibot | stuffs Monnok into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it. |
| 22:26.59 | Monnok | ~roulette |
| 22:26.59 | ibot | ACTION watches monnok pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:32.50 | TuxToaster | ~roulette Monnok |
| 22:32.51 | ibot | ACTION watches Monnok pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 22:33.13 | TuxToaster | ~roulette ibot |
| 22:33.14 | ibot | ACTION watches ibot pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 22:33.20 | TuxToaster | :D |
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| 22:40.31 | skinner | why is monday so close to friday, but friday so far away from monday? |
| 22:49.57 | Monnok | because one of those days are both the same |
| 22:54.08 | fungus | Because Wednesday got in the way. |
| 22:54.26 | fungus | w/o Wednesday they would be equidistant |
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| 23:05.25 | Monnok | idk, Tuesday shouldnt even existl it has no place in this uniiverse and it knows it. Thats why its so mean to everyone |
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| 23:47.48 | mgeary | anyone here have experience with QoS config on Cisco prosumer routers? |
