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| 00:23.03 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: You still around? |
| 00:23.24 | TuxToaster | not for long, heading out in a few |
| 00:23.34 | TuxToaster | what's up? |
| 00:23.54 | SunSparc | Just wondering if we could update the minecraft server. :) |
| 00:24.20 | TuxToaster | any idea if mindjuju has done anything with it? He asked about logging in |
| 00:24.35 | SunSparc | He has not mentioned it to me. |
| 00:25.56 | TuxToaster | hrm. I'll try to see if I can get it updated tonight |
| 00:26.20 | TuxToaster | worst case I'll back up the data files and reinstall it |
| 00:26.47 | TuxToaster | since the web interface was somewhat broken with the last update that might be easiest |
| 00:27.02 | SunSparc | If you do not want to take the time, I would be happy to. I hate to have to be required to manage it even if you do not use it. :) |
| 00:27.13 | TuxToaster | I use it occasionally :P |
| 00:28.20 | TuxToaster | I believe you have the shell login in your email somewhere as well, but I don't have any problem poking at it a bit after dinner |
| 00:32.39 | TuxToaster | back in a bit |
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| 00:44.06 | SunSparc | Anyone here use DynamicDNS with Namecheap? I am looking for good client for Ubuntu. |
| 00:44.34 | SunSparc | Namecheap support pages suggest the following for "Unix": DDClient , IPCheck |
| 00:46.00 | SunSparc | Hmmm.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS |
| 00:48.44 | supernotherereal | i haven't used them :T |
| 00:49.27 | fungus | I used ddclient with dyndns.com, but I know it supports many providers. |
| 01:07.48 | SunSparc | fungus: Cool, I am going to try it out. |
| 01:08.08 | SunSparc | My Qwest connection is driving me crazy. |
| 01:08.43 | SunSparc | And I do not want to pay $5/month on top of the lousy speeds I am paying for already. </complaints> |
| 01:08.51 | mgeary | hey stderr-_ |
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| 01:09.09 | SunSparc | mgeary: Did you figure out the Cake stuff you were working on/ |
| 01:09.11 | SunSparc | ? |
| 01:09.11 | mgeary | or anyone else who uses ruby |
| 01:09.27 | mgeary | SunSparc: no, but the issue has been deferred for now. i'll probably be bugging you tomorrow |
| 01:09.47 | mgeary | ^5 SunSparc |
| 01:09.50 | SunSparc | mgeary: Ok |
| 01:09.57 | SunSparc | mgeary: :) |
| 01:10.26 | mindjujuL | looks like that was a happy ending |
| 01:12.51 | tierra | SunSparc: use dns.he.net - free, and supports ddns entries for your own domains (also, yes, my domains are registered with NameCheap, but that's irrelevant) |
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| 01:43.20 | SunSparc | tierra: Is that sending passwords as plaintext? |
| 01:44.09 | tierra | only if you fail to properly use HTTPS as in their examples |
| 01:44.48 | SunSparc | :) |
| 01:45.51 | tierra | I wonder why their examples chose to only use HTTPS in the example that tossed the password in the URL (GET vars) as opposed to the example that uses auth headers |
| 01:46.20 | SunSparc | Yeah, interesting |
| 01:46.30 | tierra | I mean, at least the auth headers are probably still hopefully digest auth I guess |
| 01:46.36 | tierra | but yeah, kind of funny |
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| 14:31.49 | jsmith | Anybody know when PHP|Tek 2013 is going to be? |
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| 16:15.29 | mindjuju_ | DtD, is it just me or does hugo look like a hobo here? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/28/article-2239622-163F2B54000005DC-752_470x806.jpg |
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| 16:15.37 | mindjuju_ | from the Hobbit premeir in NZ |
| 16:15.50 | mindjuju_ | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2239622/The-Hobbit-premiere-Cate-Blanchett-heads-glamour-THOUSANDS-fans-arrive.html |
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| 16:32.19 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju_: very hobo |
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| 17:30.51 | mindjuju_ | o.O |
| 17:31.05 | mindjuju_ | O.o |
| 17:31.17 | mindjuju_ | awful quiet in here, i suspect a trap |
| 17:31.18 | DexterTheDragon | O.O |
| 17:31.36 | DexterTheDragon | o.o |
| 17:31.40 | clintberry | Mindjuju's eyes keep alternating in size... |
| 17:31.42 | DexterTheDragon | -.- |
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| 17:32.06 | clintberry | That is why it is quiet. Carmony hasn't been here. He will spice things up |
| 17:32.23 | carmony | hey! |
| 17:32.25 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: http://php.ug/ |
| 17:32.34 | carmony | just got out of a revenue meeting, bleh |
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| 17:33.57 | mgeary | carmony: bleh revenue? |
| 17:34.22 | carmony | just a long meeting |
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| 17:35.14 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: just submitted UPHPU to that |
| 17:35.41 | mindjuju_ | ~submit carmony for a taco |
| 17:36.10 | mindjuju_ | taco al Pastor |
| 17:36.13 | mindjuju_ | cause that's the kind he likes |
| 17:36.16 | carmony | ooooooooh |
| 17:36.17 | carmony | yes |
| 17:38.12 | Monnok | Does anyone know how to remove test data from google analytics? |
| 17:38.55 | Monnok | Apparently some testing stuff made it to GA and now my client thinks hes rich |
| 17:41.25 | ninnypants | curiosity found organic molecules on mars http://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it/notizia.php?IDNotizia=572690&IDCategoria=2694 |
| 17:44.40 | skinner | A task I'm on requires that I resize images that are uploaded to the server. I'm considering using ImageMagick. Would this be the best choice? Or are there better alternatives? The only requirement is that any image that is uploaded gets resized to a pre-determined size. |
| 17:45.11 | mgeary | skinner: GD is pretty easy to use |
| 17:45.26 | mgeary | i'd do that before shelling out to ImageMagick |
| 17:46.39 | Monnok | ^^ I concur, GD is easy and free |
| 17:49.21 | josephscott | skinner: http://www.graphicsmagick.org/ might be an option as well |
| 17:50.14 | mindjuju_ | wait, imagemagick costs? |
| 17:50.17 | mindjuju_ | i thought it was free |
| 17:50.41 | mgeary | mindjuju_: not "shelling out cash" |
| 17:50.42 | josephscott | http://php.net/manual/en/book.gmagick.php |
| 17:50.48 | mgeary | mindjuju_: "going out to the shell" |
| 17:50.55 | mindjuju_ | heh |
| 17:51.05 | ninnypants | mindjuju_ time == money |
| 17:51.13 | mindjuju_ | <-- please ignore |
| 17:51.13 | mgeary | PIL++ |
| 17:52.15 | mindjuju_ | i was working, looked up saw imagemagick and thought, oh man, hadn't used that in years, was one of the first things I did in PHP was a site that woudl convert images using imagemagick |
| 17:53.57 | carmony | macnewbold: ping |
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| 18:11.28 | TuxToaster | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/36612368782/after-designing-a-new-brand-identity-website-and |
| 18:11.34 | TuxToaster | carmony: mac is afk |
| 18:16.08 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: that's a good one |
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| 18:18.51 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: lol about the client from hell |
| 18:23.38 | SunSparc | FYI, ddclient is working well with both Namecheap and OpenDNS so far. |
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| 18:26.28 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: nice |
| 18:26.42 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 18:26.50 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:26.52 | TuxToaster | I haven't used Namecheap's DNS hosting, I currently use a combination of Zerigo and Zonomi |
| 18:27.25 | SunSparc | Do you like those services? |
| 18:27.38 | TuxToaster | Zerigo being where I host all of my DNS (they have a nice API and templating setup) and Zonomi has a few domains that I want to be more redundant, which only costs me something like 80 cents / month |
| 18:27.40 | TuxToaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.46 | TuxToaster | yeah they've been pretty decent |
| 18:28.12 | TuxToaster | Zerigo runs me around $20/year, though I think you can do a few for free |
| 18:29.42 | SunSparc | I have been doing my own DNS hosting with DJBDNS for about 10 years. It has been great. But I no longer want to maintain the servers, so I am migrating to Namecheap because they have free dns with the domain names. |
| 18:29.52 | TuxToaster | yeah I did that for a while |
| 18:30.03 | SunSparc | Good times. :) |
| 18:30.06 | TuxToaster | I had a client I did some work for a few years back before it fell apart |
| 18:30.31 | TuxToaster | had a cool setup with djbdns where it could auto create the DNS records within seconds after signing up |
| 18:30.51 | SunSparc | Nice. I thought of automating it, but never got around to it. |
| 18:31.24 | TuxToaster | so if you wanted to sell your house, you would go on and upload photos, put in info, choose a layout, etc. and then be able to register 123elmst.com, have it set up DNS and create a static HTML site based off of the details you put in and host it |
| 18:32.16 | SunSparc | Pretty slick! But a second level domain name for each house? |
| 18:32.54 | SunSparc | Seems like overkill. |
| 18:33.09 | SunSparc | Though, for SEO could be good. |
| 18:33.45 | SunSparc | But only if people are searching for that address. Interesting idea. |
| 18:33.47 | TuxToaster | yeah, you figure at the time it was insane. ~2005 |
| 18:34.04 | SunSparc | Back when the market was better. |
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| 18:34.57 | TuxToaster | there are a couple of places that offer similar setups, but we ended up trying to throw too much into it in a short amount of time and then they got an offer to partner with a bigger company that was already established and took it |
| 18:35.26 | ezkl | Oh hai friends |
| 18:36.46 | herlo | hallo! |
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| 18:54.03 | mindjuju_ | WHERE IS fridgesm?? |
| 18:54.33 | mindjuju_ | ~apb fridgesm |
| 18:54.34 | ibot | ACTION calls Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out fridgesm |
| 18:54.48 | fridgesm | I'm in #utos-meeting |
| 18:54.58 | mindjuju_ | DUDE!!! HE FREAKIN SAID YES!! |
| 18:55.06 | mindjuju_ | rasmus is coming !!!!! |
| 18:56.12 | fungus | The Rasmus? |
| 18:56.25 | fungus | to UPHPU? |
| 18:56.40 | mindjuju_ | the UTOS conference 2013 |
| 18:56.48 | mindjuju_ | the Rasmus Lerdorf |
| 18:57.00 | fungus | Wow, that's cool. |
| 18:57.13 | fungus | Though it might be scary. Lots of PHP haters there. |
| 18:57.20 | fungus | Gonna start a war. |
| 18:57.27 | fungus | You should invite Larry Wall too. |
| 18:57.34 | herlo | mindjuju_: rocking! |
| 18:57.41 | herlo | fungus: noway! |
| 18:57.53 | herlo | that would be a total battle royale! |
| 18:57.59 | fungus | lol, no kidding |
| 18:58.10 | josephscott | mindjuju_: nice |
| 18:58.22 | herlo | and truth be told, nerds can't fight. |
| 18:59.22 | fungus | True but it might turn into a shouting match. |
| 18:59.45 | herlo | meh |
| 18:59.50 | herlo | I don't want to be there for that |
| 18:59.53 | fungus | But anyway. Big grats to mindjuju_ on the score. |
| 19:07.18 | mindjuju_ | exactly like that! |
| 19:12.17 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: http://php.ug/ |
| 19:12.48 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: sweet |
| 19:18.51 | carmony | mindjuju_: awesome about rasmus! :P |
| 19:19.10 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: woot! Congrats! |
| 19:19.55 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Did you see the email from mindjuju_ and I last night? |
| 19:20.43 | SunSparc | ~toast TuxToaster |
| 19:20.43 | ibot | ACTION crams TuxToaster in the toaster, and sets it to "Burn" and waits for TuxToaster to eject from the toaster |
| 19:25.30 | TuxToaster | I must tell you all how awesome it is to come back to my desk to this: http://cl.ly/image/0E1O3H3M392Z |
| 19:25.53 | SunSparc | lol |
| 19:25.56 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: I did |
| 19:26.11 | TuxToaster | I'll resend it shortly |
| 19:26.18 | TuxToaster | I might not have sent what I thought I sent |
| 19:26.26 | SunSparc | Cool |
| 19:26.28 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:28.42 | TuxToaster | it's worth mentioning that those image previews are animated |
| 19:29.16 | TuxToaster | so I'm *still* seeing the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man zooming in and out while a stickguy dances above him |
| 19:29.23 | SunSparc | lol |
| 19:29.39 | SunSparc | If only we had some video of mindjuju_ doing his dance... |
| 19:30.50 | TuxToaster | a friend and former coworker of mine had a vid of her imitating the inflatable guy once |
| 19:31.12 | TuxToaster | so then my kid saw it and wanted to do it too, so I got a pic of him in front of one at Jiffy Lube doing the same thing |
| 19:31.40 | SunSparc | Nice :) His girlfriends will love seeing that some day. |
| 19:31.58 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
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| 19:33.56 | josephscott | TuxToaster: that dancing stick figure it what we show in our support system when the queue is empty |
| 19:34.07 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 19:34.08 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 19:34.40 | josephscott | I like seeing an empty support queue :-) |
| 19:35.12 | josephscott | one of our support guys actually starts to miss him if the queue hasn't been empty in several days |
| 19:35.26 | SunSparc | josephscott: that is awesome |
| 19:35.30 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 19:36.05 | josephscott | if there are tickets that need dev attention he'll start pestering them more just to get the dancing man back, it has been a fun motivator |
| 19:36.18 | TuxToaster | josephscott: you should work some HTML5 magic and have him show up as a canvas background, peering out from behind a nav menu or something |
| 19:36.35 | TuxToaster | and then when it's empty he comes out and starts dancing |
| 19:36.36 | TuxToaster | :D |
| 19:37.09 | josephscott | haha, that would be cool, it was a 10 second addition to just throw it in there when the queue is empty, so not a lot of thought put into it :-) |
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| 20:30.43 | mahelious | well now i have to go to UTOS 13 |
| 20:31.13 | mahelious | or will it be OWC '13? |
| 20:34.12 | mahelious | so say i wanted to do a presentation, but atm ive only been working on two things |
| 20:34.18 | mahelious | connecting php to netsuite |
| 20:34.28 | mahelious | building a wisp architecture |
| 20:34.42 | mahelious | does anybody have any interest in either of those subjects? |
| 20:35.17 | herlo | wee! |
| 20:37.27 | ezkl | Wireless Identification Sensing Platform |
| 20:37.58 | ezkl | RFID stuff is an awesome study |
| 20:38.12 | mahelious | oops. Windows IIS Sqlserver and PHP |
| 20:38.42 | ezkl | oh... that windows stuff... |
| 20:40.00 | ezkl | Zig Ziglar passed away :( |
| 20:41.06 | mindjuju_ | hey, who here ate at the Belgian at the UTOSC 2012? |
| 20:41.09 | mindjuju_ | i can't remember what day that was |
| 20:42.20 | mindjuju_ | nm, that was Thursday |
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| 21:22.48 | josephscott | ninnypants: any update on the wpslc location? |
| 21:22.56 | josephscott | I haven't seen an updated email yet |
| 21:23.35 | ninnypants | josephscott: http://wpslc.com/blog/2012/11/27/november-28th-meetup-brett-thompson-of-pixelcrane/ |
| 21:23.51 | ninnypants | I'll see if dustin has had a chance to send an email |
| 21:24.23 | josephscott | k |
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| 21:49.13 | ninnypants | crazy storm on saturn http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2012/11/saturnstormbig.jpg |
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| 22:26.22 | clintberry | So cool. I always get awesome space pictures from you guys on here |
| 22:26.36 | clintberry | what was the high res hubble image someone shared a few months back? That was sweet |
| 22:30.32 | ninnypants | oh the one with all the galaxies? |
| 22:30.54 | clintberry | yeah, that one |
| 22:30.59 | clintberry | it was so awesome |
| 22:31.24 | ninnypants | here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVjF_7ensg |
| 22:32.58 | ninnypants | I don't remember where the zoomable image is |
| 22:34.05 | ninnypants | clintberry: did you see this http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/ |
| 22:35.51 | clintberry | WOW! |
| 22:37.43 | clintberry | 200-400 billion stars, just in our galaxy. And that one image had so many galaxies…. Space is great |
| 22:41.55 | supernothere | isn't it? :) |
| 22:43.36 | clintberry | Who do you want to prosecute? |
| 22:43.48 | mindjuju_ | you |
| 22:44.56 | supernothere | yeah, YOU |
| 22:45.07 | supernothere | I got my first traffic ticket and it haz a dumb. |
| 22:45.09 | clintberry | bummer. |
| 22:45.12 | carmony | sigh |
| 22:45.19 | carmony | I hate super random out of our control bugs |
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| 22:48.53 | ezkl | ninnypants: that was pretty cool. Check out this one in chrome http://scale2.s3.amazonaws.com/scale2.swf?bordercolor=black |
| 22:50.56 | supernovia1 | heh, re: the stars thing josephscott posted on twitter |
| 22:51.02 | supernovia1 | "So the sun is always in the center, right?" |
| 22:51.13 | josephscott | I got it from here :-) |
| 22:51.16 | supernovia1 | "Maybe in the center of the screen. Not in the center of our galaxy." |
| 22:51.34 | supernovia1 | "Well, yeah. I mean our galaxy is probably centered around a super massive black hole." |
| 22:51.42 | supernovia1 | indeed |
| 22:51.54 | supernovia1 | I missed the link here |
| 22:52.09 | supernovia1 | anyway, back to writing the prosecutor asking for evidence. Whee. |
| 22:52.21 | supernovia1 | thanks for the distraction my awesome friends. |
| 22:52.22 | josephscott | wow, that is a change of topic |
| 22:53.13 | supernovia1 | Ethan says having to write a letter should be sentence enough (for speeding) |
| 22:53.47 | josephscott | you are fighting a speeding ticket? |
| 22:53.54 | supernovia1 | yeah |
| 22:54.14 | supernovia1 | I usually try pretty hard not to speed... |
| 22:54.16 | DexterTheDragon | but who gives tickets for 5 over |
| 22:54.36 | supernovia1 | they have to get the video and send it to me and all that. I don't know how that's worth their time. |
| 22:54.48 | supernovia1 | but whatever. I'm not trying to be a pain, just I really don't believe the ticket was just. |
| 22:55.25 | supernovia1 | it's kinda sad when a speeding ticket causes more problems than it solves. |
| 22:59.14 | supernovia1 | I -used- to speed a lot, now if I'm speeding at all it's to prevent road rage from the people behind me (and usually I just pull over to let them pass) |
| 23:03.07 | mgeary | supernovia: were you in PG, perchance? |
| 23:03.43 | supernovia1 | no, I was in Lehi going over an overpass |
| 23:03.58 | mgeary | i know 2 people who've gotten speeding tickets in PG in the last week. I think they're stepping up activity. Trying to bump revenue, perhaps |
| 23:04.24 | supernovia-mom2 | I've always wondered whether the "trying to bump revenue" idea is accurate |
| 23:04.46 | supernovia-mom2 | this guy said, "I've been sitting out here every afternoon for years catching people speeding here over this hill" |
| 23:04.55 | mgeary | i've heard that some cities plan on moving violation fines in their budget forecasting |
| 23:05.12 | DexterTheDragon | how many nicks does supernovia have? |
| 23:05.26 | supernovia-mom2 | meanwhile students were crossing the street near the spot where he was monitoring traffic coming over the pass |
| 23:05.33 | supernovia-mom2 | interesting |
| 23:07.01 | mgeary | i'd be totally on board with increased traffic tickets if the revenue really did directly benefit our schools. As it is, it just makes me loathe law enforcement, at least a little |
| 23:07.14 | supernovia-mom2 | where does the money go exactly? |
| 23:07.19 | mgeary | city coffers |
| 23:07.33 | supernovia-mom2 | I have never been one to loathe law enforcement before, but this ticket just seems so stupid |
| 23:07.49 | supernovia-mom2 | and I don't even think he got the right car… but, I was in an area I'm not familiar with |
| 23:08.14 | supernovia-mom2 | thing is, there were some teenagers who looked like they were going to cross the street so I know I was driving super slow |
| 23:08.36 | supernovia-mom2 | I think he just pegged the wrong person really |
| 23:10.31 | supernovia-mom2 | http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_2b1c24cb-fbb7-5ef0-831b-a2560d4d0766.html - lehi's old prosecutor brought up a complaint with the police over them letting DUIs off the hook while citing innocent people |
| 23:11.44 | TuxToaster | supernovia-mom2: same ticket you mentioned on Twitter a few days ago, or a new one? |
| 23:11.55 | supernovia-mom2 | yup |
| 23:12.08 | supernovia-mom2 | still my only ticket ever, thank goodness :p |
| 23:12.26 | TuxToaster | yeah, the fact that they were sitting waiting on an overpass tells you they were just wanting the ticket |
| 23:12.48 | supernovia-mom2 | he was actually waiting in front of a school, but pointing his radar at the hill coming over the overpass :( |
| 23:13.04 | TuxToaster | my only moving ticket was a couple years ago when a cop in West Valley pulled me over for "failing to yield" to someone in a crosswalk |
| 23:13.28 | supernovia-mom2 | man, see, I even yield to people in cross walks. Honestly the way I drive already makes a lot of other drivers irate |
| 23:13.46 | TuxToaster | but I waited for the person to be more than halfway across the street, which is what the law actually states, and I have no idea how he supposedly saw me not yield from several cars back |
| 23:13.54 | TuxToaster | he pulled around an entire line of traffic to pull me over |
| 23:14.13 | supernovia-mom2 | and now I'm like, putting my car in cruise control at 25 and using the brakes as needed unless I KNOW the speed limit is higher than that … and spending more time pulling over for angry drivers |
| 23:14.28 | supernovia-mom2 | nice. :( |
| 23:14.35 | TuxToaster | FWIW, that might not work, most cars won't actually do cruise below 30 |
| 23:14.38 | TuxToaster | just so you know |
| 23:14.46 | supernovia-mom2 | I can feel 25 though |
| 23:14.49 | supernovia-mom2 | and my car does |
| 23:14.53 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 23:15.04 | supernovia-mom2 | plus if I keep it in a lower gear ... |
| 23:15.22 | TuxToaster | true |
| 23:15.25 | TuxToaster | but yeah, annoying |
| 23:15.38 | supernovia-mom2 | tbh, I drove over the same hill again at 25 and 25 felt WAY too slow for the hill (as evidenced by the huge line of tailgaters behind me) |
| 23:15.58 | supernovia-mom2 | so, Im asking for the video, if I was speeding, fine, I'll pay for it |
| 23:15.59 | TuxToaster | you really shouldn't have gotten a ticket considering you never had one before |
| 23:16.03 | TuxToaster | it's not like you speed regularly |
| 23:16.26 | TuxToaster | (I work with a guy who often brags about going 95+ on the highway) |
| 23:16.46 | supernovia-mom2 | I know right? I was talking to a guy the other day who claimed he drove from centerville to provo in about 20 minutes |
| 23:16.55 | supernovia-mom2 | and I _used_ to speed when I was a teenager |
| 23:17.18 | supernovia-mom2 | or when I first got my car anyway. Then I put a CTR sticker on it and started to feel guilty for driving all leadfootlike |
| 23:17.43 | TuxToaster | my thought is if you're going that fast, the least you could do is trail a rainbow behind you |
| 23:17.52 | supernovia-mom2 | prior to this ticket I tried to just stick with the flow on the freeway — I'm not doing that anymore even. :t |
| 23:18.05 | supernovia-mom2 | rainbows would be nice |
| 23:18.21 | TuxToaster | bonus points if your car looks like a poptart |
| 23:18.30 | supernovia-mom2 | indeed. would be a fine decoration. |
| 23:18.50 | TuxToaster | somehow I don't think my wife will let me do that to our van. Tempting, though. |
| 23:18.52 | supernovia-mom2 | okay. I really need to bite the bullet, write the letter, print it and out it goes. the prosecutor does seem nice, at least. |
| 23:19.01 | supernovia-mom2 | magnets. |
| 23:19.04 | supernovia-mom2 | use magnets. |
| 23:19.08 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:19.22 | TuxToaster | good luck in sending it off |
| 23:19.32 | supernovia-mom2 | thanks :) |
| 23:19.48 | supernovia-mom2 | and enough of these would do the trick: http://www.overnightprints.com/carmagnets |
| 23:22.35 | TuxToaster | if nothing else, it should make your apartment feel bigger on the inside. |
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