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| 00:28.56 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: lol |
| 00:29.12 | beandog | doesn't congress effect more change than the president anyway? |
| 00:29.15 | beandog | They're the crazy ones passing laws. |
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| 00:29.29 | fungus | beandog, yup, exactly. |
| 00:30.17 | beandog | I want to have some president that pisses off Congress and veteos every single law. |
| 00:30.22 | beandog | that would be awesome. |
| 00:30.46 | beandog | beandog for president |
| 00:35.10 | mindjuju_ | k, this is a REALLY bad picture of the TSA - http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/tsa-cake-pie-snow-globes-185652281.html |
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| 00:35.42 | beandog | I hate flying. |
| 00:35.47 | mindjuju_ | it's what i'd imagine my future proctologist is going to look like |
| 00:35.48 | beandog | TSA is the least of my problems when flying. |
| 00:35.53 | beandog | I'm scared of getting sick. |
| 00:36.05 | beandog | mindjuju_: get checked for cancer at the same time |
| 00:36.32 | mindjuju_ | even more than that beandog, i can catch a flight, get my prostate exam AND get POPEYE'S CHICKEN1!! |
| 00:36.37 | mindjuju_ | all at the SLC airport |
| 00:36.40 | mindjuju_ | w00t! |
| 00:37.09 | beandog | please don't mix up the order. |
| 00:37.18 | mindjuju_ | which reminds me beandog, how come towel not important?? |
| 00:37.25 | beandog | it assumes I shower. |
| 00:37.35 | beandog | no promises. |
| 00:37.39 | mindjuju_ | heh |
| 00:38.08 | mindjuju_ | in other news, sounds like MS just fired it's guy incharge of winders 8 |
| 00:38.14 | beandog | really? |
| 00:38.17 | beandog | Have you seen it? It is SO terrible. |
| 00:38.27 | beandog | desktop != tablet |
| 00:38.29 | beandog | seriously, guys. |
| 00:39.01 | mindjuju_ | haven't seen it yet |
| 00:39.53 | mindjuju_ | let me say this, i got a smoking deal on a old laser jet printer for UTOS, fired it up in winders (i'm ashamed to say, but it was what i had up at the time), doesn't work, neither does this near free scanner i have |
| 00:40.07 | mindjuju_ | so i boot into ubuntu as i need to start doing some work, and pow, both work instantly |
| 00:40.36 | mindjuju_ | ...sigh... why do i even bother with winders any more? now that steam is putting effort into linux client |
| 00:41.09 | beandog | fungus: I just need TLS on ftp auth, right? |
| 00:41.29 | fungus | That's bare minimum, but using it on everything is better |
| 00:41.30 | beandog | mindjuju_: I keep some VMs around for whenever I need it |
| 00:41.40 | beandog | fungus: kk |
| 00:42.59 | herlo | mindjuju_: exactly! :) |
| 00:45.45 | mindjuju_ | d00d herlo, i'm so serious, like i didn't even need to look up a driver at all |
| 00:45.56 | mindjuju_ | it was all, ok, i'm cool with that |
| 00:46.15 | herlo | hehe, I know |
| 00:46.35 | herlo | quite extensive. |
| 00:46.53 | herlo | http://www.openprinting.org/printers |
| 00:48.18 | beandog | it has gotten a LOT better in recent years |
| 00:48.21 | mindjuju_ | is this a list of all printers supported? |
| 00:48.40 | mindjuju_ | that's awesome, i was just at the DI looking at some old gear, wondering how i could figure that out |
| 00:48.59 | beandog | mindjuju_: dude |
| 00:49.02 | beandog | I have an awesome idea |
| 00:49.19 | beandog | Ive been researching how to clean rear projection TVs, apparently it's super easy to get them displaying as new |
| 00:49.31 | beandog | there's always a ton at DI, so I wanna go snag some and see if I can clean em up |
| 00:49.39 | beandog | that'd be fun |
| 00:49.55 | herlo | mindjuju_: that's a list of verified to work printers, so maybe not all |
| 00:53.30 | mindjuju_ | beandog, i just saw a bunch at the DI in Lehi |
| 00:53.40 | beandog | I wanna get one |
| 00:53.41 | beandog | :D |
| 00:53.54 | beandog | can I borrow $50? |
| 00:53.56 | beandog | sorry |
| 00:53.58 | beandog | I meant "borrow" |
| 00:54.42 | mindjuju_ | i think you're prolly good for a $50 LoC |
| 00:54.53 | beandog | what's that? |
| 00:54.59 | mgeary | mindjuju_: *OAC |
| 00:55.05 | mindjuju_ | Line of Credit |
| 00:55.32 | mindjuju_ | have you seen his car mgeary? it's worth like 3 of mine |
| 00:55.34 | mindjuju_ | maybe 4 |
| 00:55.39 | beandog | lol |
| 00:56.41 | mindjuju_ | i consider them investments ;) |
| 00:56.48 | mgeary | retirement plan |
| 00:56.53 | beandog | mgeary: can't argue with that |
| 00:56.55 | mindjuju_ | even better |
| 00:58.31 | beandog | I can never remember, how do you make one of those pem files that has everything in it |
| 00:58.40 | beandog | I need one for pure-ftpd |
| 00:59.11 | fungus | beandog, a pem file is just a concatenated list of all the PEM files of other certs. |
| 00:59.19 | beandog | okay that's what I thought ... |
| 00:59.32 | beandog | so ca bundle, private key, and crt |
| 00:59.40 | fungus | cat server-cert.pem server-key.pem intermediate.pem root.pem > bundle.pem |
| 01:00.09 | fungus | yeah, exactly |
| 01:00.33 | fungus | It's the pkcs12 (.p12) files that are a PITA to create. |
| 01:00.45 | fungus | PEM is cake. |
| 01:01.14 | mindjuju_ | i like cake |
| 01:01.21 | fungus | i like pie |
| 01:01.29 | mindjuju_ | pie is good too |
| 01:04.47 | beandog | pie la la |
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| 01:14.46 | mindjuju_ | k, gents, i'm offline for 20 minutes to go to Office 2.0 |
| 01:14.48 | mindjuju_ | cya then |
| 01:18.03 | beandog | fungus: do I need the private key too? |
| 01:18.17 | fungus | probably. |
| 01:18.21 | beandog | Hermm... |
| 01:18.27 | beandog | ok |
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| 02:27.35 | mindjuju_ | anybody around? |
| 02:28.05 | mindjuju_ | first off, this issn't my fault, second, this isn't my place to tear up:: |
| 02:28.10 | herlo | mindjuju_: heh |
| 02:28.21 | herlo | what did you do! :) |
| 02:28.40 | mindjuju_ | there is an ethernet cable behind a cubicle wall, now the cable i have rights to use, but it of course only strecths like 1 foot from under the cube wall |
| 02:28.55 | mindjuju_ | i'm thinking, long enoguh for switch and go on |
| 02:29.20 | mindjuju_ | i'm guessing the proper thing would be to jump behind the wall, ,but not really an option here |
| 02:29.41 | mindjuju_ | i bring this up because a while back, i saw a cat5 inline coupler |
| 02:29.44 | herlo | can you put a jack in the wall? |
| 02:29.56 | herlo | might be a cleaner solution |
| 02:30.22 | mindjuju_ | what do you mean by jack? |
| 02:30.36 | mindjuju_ | like another ethernet drop? |
| 02:30.44 | mindjuju_ | cause that be a no |
| 02:33.46 | mindjuju_ | oh i know what your saying |
| 02:34.22 | mindjuju_ | like take the cable to a box (like i'd use in a ethernet drop) then have it circle around to another jack and plug my longer cable into that |
| 02:34.48 | herlo | sure |
| 02:35.12 | herlo | terminate it like an ethernet drop and then plug into it |
| 02:35.19 | herlo | mindjuju_: would that work? |
| 02:35.25 | mindjuju_ | yup, that's doable |
| 02:35.29 | mindjuju_ | k, i'll do that |
| 02:35.38 | mindjuju_ | thx! |
| 02:36.37 | herlo | np |
| 02:36.38 | herlo | gl |
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| 15:46.17 | Bikerdan | This is pretty interesting... Beware. It's about government. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL8CiUtXF0&feature=youtu.be |
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| 16:23.55 | mahelious | hard to believe turkey day is next week. where has my month gone? |
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| 16:31.39 | captbrogers | mahelious: I was thinking the same thing |
| 16:31.43 | ezkl | Hi friends |
| 16:32.49 | mahelious | 'ullo ezkl |
| 16:33.54 | ezkl | Marnin Mahelious |
| 16:37.23 | Skinner | Hello ezkl |
| 16:38.51 | ezkl | Hola Skinner. |
| 16:40.47 | ezkl | lol... people in Texas are trying to sucede from the US |
| 16:43.52 | herlo | turkey day is early this year because the 1st was a Thursday... |
| 16:44.16 | eggyknap | There was a similar petition from Utah, eventually, to secede. |
| 16:44.31 | eggyknap | However, if you wanna break from the Empire, you don't ask the Emperor before doing it. You just do it. |
| 16:44.40 | ezkl | ^^^^ |
| 16:59.33 | fungus | A lot of those signatures aren't even from Texas. |
| 17:00.00 | fungus | Are those people just stupid, or are they trying to get rid of Texas? |
| 17:03.06 | unum | I hadn't thought of that, I'll sign that petition |
| 17:03.14 | unum | I'm STILL bitter about Bush ;) |
| 17:03.28 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:04.44 | ezkl | Bring back Clinton! :) |
| 17:05.26 | ezkl | https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558551_10151389723978362_583569957_n.jpg |
| 17:05.39 | fungus | lol |
| 17:06.11 | captbrogers | $rlart skinner |
| 17:06.12 | raifbot | takes a big bite out of mindjuju_'s jugular vein. |
| 17:06.32 | captbrogers | ~lart skinner |
| 17:06.32 | ibot | send killer squirrels to attack skinner |
| 17:06.33 | herlo | lol @ Skinner |
| 17:06.44 | herlo | lol @ captbrogers |
| 17:07.00 | captbrogers | Take that skinner |
| 17:07.15 | herlo | and mindjuju_, apparently. :) |
| 17:07.34 | mgeary | hmmm |
| 17:07.48 | mgeary | so, i'm getting notices that i've signed in to my IM accounts from another location... |
| 17:08.04 | mgeary | but i haven't… unless maybe my IP has changed while i've been sitting here |
| 17:08.10 | herlo | mgeary: when are we going skiing? Alta opens on Friday! We went to Brighton yesterday....it was pretty good! :) |
| 17:08.12 | ezkl | What IM |
| 17:08.25 | mgeary | it's more than one account, which makes me wonder… |
| 17:08.41 | mgeary | herlo: awesome. I wish i could have gone to Brighton yesterday. |
| 17:08.49 | ezkl | *er.... Which IM service? |
| 17:09.08 | mgeary | but right now i could probably just do Saturday |
| 17:09.46 | mgeary | but that may be a workable day |
| 17:10.33 | mgeary | ezkl: .Mac/AIM, Yahoo, MSN |
| 17:10.37 | herlo | well, I have things going Saturday afternoon. We possibly could go in the morning, but I'm afraid of how busy it will be. |
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| 17:11.29 | mgeary | herlo: indeed… jackson has school on Friday until 3ish… does any place open have night skiing? |
| 17:11.34 | herlo | not yet |
| 17:11.38 | ezkl | Wierd... *shrug* |
| 17:11.52 | ezkl | brighton has night skiing |
| 17:11.56 | mgeary | no they don't |
| 17:11.58 | herlo | mgeary: I don't know when brighton is planning to start their nights |
| 17:11.59 | mgeary | oh |
| 17:12.01 | mgeary | well, they do |
| 17:12.04 | mgeary | but not yet |
| 17:12.20 | herlo | ezkl: right, but they only opened yesterday and no night skiing yet |
| 17:12.21 | mgeary | ezkl: it's like someone has opened one of my other/old computers that had my IM logins saved on it |
| 17:12.39 | herlo | mgeary: a good reason to encrypt your hard drives :) |
| 17:12.44 | mgeary | starting to worry that maybe something got out... |
| 17:12.47 | mgeary | yeah yeah |
| 17:13.01 | ezkl | Night skiing is from 4 – 9 p.m. Monday through Saturday from early December through early April. |
| 17:13.11 | ezkl | I guess it starts Dec |
| 17:13.17 | herlo | there we go :) |
| 17:13.24 | herlo | we should do a geek ski night :) |
| 17:14.03 | fungus | geeks and physical activity? Are you nuts/ |
| 17:14.16 | fungus | ;) |
| 17:14.43 | herlo | fungus: dude, it's not that much physical activity. I mean, I can do it. |
| 17:14.51 | fungus | hehe |
| 17:14.57 | herlo | thought you might like that |
| 17:15.14 | herlo | fungus: you can bring your sled if you wanna |
| 17:16.01 | fungus | lol, how about a lodge where I can sit by a fire and drink hot chocolate |
| 17:16.16 | mgeary | they have that too |
| 17:16.32 | mgeary | but skiing is awesome. Brighton is good for newer/less-experienced skiiers |
| 17:16.36 | mgeary | so is Alta, i think |
| 17:16.41 | herlo | fungus: they have one with alcohol too. You could probably even get a cosmo |
| 17:16.51 | mgeary | Sundance not so much, unfortunately |
| 17:17.16 | fungus | herlo, nice. |
| 17:17.18 | herlo | Alta is big, I think you can do a lot of backcountry there. Though Sundance has a lot more hard stuff in the back country. |
| 17:17.36 | herlo | fungus: iirc, they also have wifi |
| 17:18.23 | fungus | That's basic requirements. |
| 17:18.42 | herlo | lol |
| 17:19.07 | ezkl | http://turntable.fm/uphpu |
| 17:25.42 | mahelious | huh. looks different. |
| 17:26.17 | ezkl | They just updated it today |
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| 17:36.50 | ezkl | Welcome back macnewbold |
| 17:49.25 | ezkl | Has anyone here had success with doing validation in a form with angularJS? |
| 18:01.38 | SunSparc | mahelious: Yep, today is "Big Wednesday" on TT. They were touting some big updates. |
| 18:07.27 | captbrogers | Laravel updated, CyanogenMod updated, it's Update November! |
| 18:10.19 | SunSparc | Early Christmas presents. |
| 18:13.19 | ninnypants | SunSparc: nah they're just giving you something to be thankful for at Thanks Giving |
| 18:13.37 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Ah, there you go. :) |
| 18:16.30 | captbrogers | Well, there is holiday creep going on |
| 18:16.39 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:17.00 | captbrogers | http://penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 18:17.11 | captbrogers | Today's comic explains my feelings well |
| 18:18.10 | SunSparc | Yeah, Black Friday is ridiculous. |
| 18:18.25 | SunSparc | Black is a good color for it. |
| 18:18.29 | SunSparc | It is evil. |
| 18:18.41 | SunSparc | ~black friday |
| 18:18.57 | SunSparc | ibot: Black Friday is evil |
| 18:18.57 | ibot | okay, SunSparc |
| 18:19.08 | SunSparc | ~Black Friday |
| 18:19.08 | ibot | well, black friday is evil |
| 18:19.17 | SunSparc | ~black |
| 18:19.17 | ibot | hmm... black is off right? |
| 18:19.24 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:19.26 | captbrogers | I haven't gone to any black friday thing in years |
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| 18:19.36 | captbrogers | I don't plan to either |
| 18:19.39 | captbrogers | I hate them |
| 18:19.58 | SunSparc | I have never been. I avoid them like the Black plague. |
| 18:20.12 | captbrogers | instantrimshot.com |
| 18:20.17 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:21.20 | ezkl | I went the first year fashion place opened at midnight, and never again. |
| 18:23.03 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:23.03 | raifbot | lowers utahcon's priority. |
| 18:23.10 | mahelious | ugh. sql errors make me want to shoot myself in the head. |
| 18:23.32 | jsmith | mahelious: At least they're usually fairly easy to fix... |
| 18:24.12 | TuxToaster | one year at Kmart we had a customer sit on a pallet of DVD players and kick at anyone who came near it |
| 18:26.32 | captbrogers | Seriously, wtf? |
| 18:27.31 | captbrogers | Thankfully I never worked retail during Black Friday |
| 18:28.01 | captbrogers | Sometimes when I see things on the news about how people act during holiday shopping I want to go live on another planet |
| 18:28.50 | TuxToaster | the last couple of years I was there it was fairly mild, I opened one year and we opened the doors at 5 AM and had people coming in telling us horror stories from Walmart that had opened an hour or two earlier |
| 18:29.42 | TuxToaster | that day we literally had zero issues, everyone was completely nice to each other. Probably because of the nightmare going on at Walmart. |
| 18:30.03 | TuxToaster | but most other years there was at least one or two crazies |
| 18:30.54 | captbrogers | And they ruin it for everyone else |
| 18:30.59 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 18:31.02 | ezkl | Wal-Mart opens at 5pm Thanksgiving day I heard. |
| 18:31.19 | TuxToaster | yeah a few places are starting their sales Thursday night |
| 18:31.40 | TuxToaster | Kmart is the weird one because they're starting on Thursday and having a sale through 3 AM |
| 18:31.44 | captbrogers | Which makes me want to just shut myself in for the entire weekend |
| 18:31.52 | TuxToaster | then they're closing for two hours, and opening again at 5 AM with another sale |
| 18:32.02 | captbrogers | Seriously, those people are monsters and should not be encouraged |
| 18:32.13 | ezkl | I am just hoping for some newegg steals |
| 18:32.28 | TuxToaster | we've already got most of our shopping done |
| 18:33.23 | captbrogers | I have a few things left to get, but I order most stuff from Amazon or NewEgg |
| 18:33.27 | captbrogers | Makes it so much easier |
| 18:33.40 | TuxToaster | luckily we finally got most of the family to agree on trying a cycling system where each family gets random people to give to, so everyone doesn't have to spend a ton of money getting gifts for everyone else |
| 18:35.02 | captbrogers | TuxToaster: We have a system in place where each year we move up one on the chain, so you know who you have the next year |
| 18:35.10 | captbrogers | Makes it so easy to deal with |
| 18:35.14 | TuxToaster | yeah that's more or less what we're going to be doing |
| 18:35.21 | SunSparc | I am trying to talk my family into ditching the whole gift giving thing altogether and finding some service projects to do instead. |
| 18:35.43 | TuxToaster | problem we have is we've had a couple of people (mostly my brother-in-law and his wife) fight it for years |
| 18:35.50 | captbrogers | Why? |
| 18:35.57 | TuxToaster | which is ironic, because they usually hate whatever we buy them anyways. |
| 18:35.58 | captbrogers | I hate having to buy or make gifts for everyone |
| 18:36.09 | captbrogers | So much easier to do it for one family |
| 18:36.30 | TuxToaster | they're used to spending a lot of money and whining when the gifts they are given aren't expensive or nice enough |
| 18:36.44 | TuxToaster | or complaining if they feel like someone else's gift overshadowed what they did. Seriously. |
| 18:37.23 | TuxToaster | he's a good guy, but it's really hard not to offend him over some really silly things sometimes. |
| 18:38.04 | captbrogers | Geez, I'd hate to deal with that |
| 18:38.10 | Skinner | TuxToaster: Now I'm offended that you used the word "silly". |
| 18:38.21 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:38.44 | captbrogers | Buy gifts for Skinner is bad enough |
| 18:38.57 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: it comes and goes. But I was relieved when they didn't blow up at the idea and actually were willing to go for it |
| 18:39.06 | captbrogers | Good luck with that |
| 18:39.17 | TuxToaster | why buy a gift for Skinner? just give him a waterfall |
| 18:39.20 | TuxToaster | ~skinner Skinner |
| 18:39.20 | ibot | ACTION buries Skinner in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 18:39.24 | SunSparc | I think gift giving should be spontaneous and year round as moved upon by love for another person. A day set aside where we are expected to give gifts sounds like a government charity program. |
| 18:39.30 | captbrogers | I'm heading out to eat lunch with a friend, who used to be Skinner's friend, but I'm a better friend so he hangs with me now |
| 18:39.46 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:40.02 | Skinner | At least he plays halo with me.... |
| 18:40.41 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: I'm assuming you mean rather than a day set aside.. |
| 18:41.07 | Skinner | and he's still my friend.... |
| 18:41.10 | Skinner | ...right? |
| 18:41.13 | Skinner | <foreveralone> |
| 18:42.05 | SunSparc | captbrogers: lol |
| 18:42.45 | SunSparc | ~friend Skinner |
| 18:42.45 | ibot | see also: ~lart Skinner |
| 18:42.50 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:43.02 | Skinner | lol |
| 18:43.09 | fungus | lol, is SunSparc a jehovah's witness? |
| 18:43.17 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: something like that |
| 18:43.36 | SunSparc | fungus: No, I have not seen Jehovah. Not recently at least. |
| 18:44.03 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 18:44.34 | TuxToaster | ~friend ibot |
| 18:44.34 | ibot | see also: ~lart ibot |
| 18:44.38 | TuxToaster | ~lart ibot |
| 18:44.38 | ibot | beats the living hamstercrap out of tuxtoaster |
| 18:44.42 | TuxToaster | doh |
| 18:44.45 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:45.32 | TuxToaster | so, based on syllogism, befriending ibot = hamstercrap |
| 18:47.31 | fungus | ~unfriend ibot |
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| 19:02.12 | TuxToaster | ibot, unfriend $1 is <action> leaves $1 with a picture of herself: http://cl.ly/image/3p3b250X1j3a |
| 19:02.12 | ibot | TuxToaster: okay |
| 19:02.48 | TuxToaster | there are consequences for unfriending ibot |
| 19:03.58 | herlo | lol, nice pic |
| 19:04.48 | SunSparc | That is not how I pictured ibot... |
| 19:05.10 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: that's because you've never unfriended her. :P |
| 19:05.37 | SunSparc | Hah, good point. |
| 19:05.51 | SunSparc | ibot: we are friends forever, you and I. |
| 19:05.51 | ibot | ...but we is already something else... |
| 19:05.56 | SunSparc | :( |
| 19:06.14 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:06.17 | SunSparc | Sorry ibot, we can only be just friends. |
| 19:06.30 | TuxToaster | ~we is what? :p |
| 19:06.30 | ibot | ...but we is already something else... |
| 19:06.34 | TuxToaster | ~we |
| 19:06.34 | ibot | we are going to replace you soon, or human, or the GNU fighers |
| 19:06.45 | TuxToaster | ok |
| 19:06.48 | TuxToaster | ~we human |
| 19:07.16 | TuxToaster | at least it's not an action |
| 19:07.27 | SunSparc | Not yet... |
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| 19:10.41 | mahelious | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13385586/general-php-oop-strategy-how-to-communicate-between-nested-objects |
| 19:10.51 | SunSparc | ezkl: Do you have 2 users on the TT room? |
| 19:11.25 | mahelious | This is my new favorite so question. Tons of gold, but the best bit is "$objOne->property = new ObjTwo($objOne);" |
| 19:13.10 | SunSparc | mahelious: Is that your question? |
| 19:13.48 | mahelious | hah |
| 19:14.37 | TuxToaster | usually when I've needed an object to be able to access a "parent" I've just created something like $objTwo->parent = &$objOne; |
| 19:15.29 | mahelious | the asker seems to be looking to recreate object1, value for value, inside of object2 |
| 19:16.39 | TuxToaster | which is silly |
| 19:17.24 | TuxToaster | I think they're possibly trying to make object2 inherit object1 and extend it a bit, and they're going about it in a really strange way |
| 19:17.42 | Skinner | TuxToaster: That was my thought as well |
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| 19:23.02 | mindjuju_ | ~rlart |
| 19:23.02 | ibot | eats Heartsbane's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
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| 19:24.42 | TuxToaster | that lart seems backwards |
| 19:24.53 | mindjuju_ | ~lart TuxToaster |
| 19:24.53 | ibot | slaps TuxToaster upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:24.57 | TuxToaster | seems more likely that Heartsbane would be eating ibot's liver with fava beans and a nice chianti... |
| 19:25.03 | mindjuju_ | i'm MJ and I approve that lart |
| 19:25.09 | TuxToaster | ~lart mindjuju_ |
| 19:25.09 | ibot | pours gasoline all over mindjuju_, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 19:25.18 | TuxToaster | I'm MJ too, and I approve of that lart. |
| 19:25.19 | TuxToaster | so there. |
| 19:25.34 | mindjuju_ | hmm, a second MJ |
| 19:25.41 | mindjuju_ | there can be only 1 |
| 19:25.51 | jsmith | ~tail mindjuju_ |
| 19:25.51 | ibot | ACTION staples a tail on mindjuju_ |
| 19:26.09 | Skinner | ~tail ibot |
| 19:26.10 | ibot | ACTION staples a tail on ibot |
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| 19:26.32 | Skinner | ~tail itself |
| 19:26.32 | ibot | ACTION staples a tail on itself |
| 19:26.37 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:28.32 | SunSparc | Should be, "herself". |
| 19:28.41 | Skinner | Oh it's a girl? |
| 19:28.42 | mindjuju | ~ibot |
| 19:28.43 | ibot | methinks ibot is not a help system |
| 19:29.01 | TuxToaster | ~tail her hand and runs around screaming "I'm a little pony!" |
| 19:29.01 | ibot | ACTION staples a tail on her hand and runs around screaming "I'm a little pony!" |
| 19:29.04 | mindjuju | ibot was dating the fembots earlier, but i guess that doesn't identify gender |
| 19:29.21 | Skinner | Congrats! It's a girl! (?) |
| 19:29.22 | herlo | mindjuju: ibot is a girl |
| 19:29.33 | herlo | no matter what she says. |
| 19:29.45 | mindjuju | ibot, are you a girl |
| 19:29.48 | ezkl | I thought ibot was like Stig off of Top Gear. |
| 19:29.52 | Skinner | ~8ball Are you a girl? |
| 19:29.52 | ibot | Are you smoking crack? |
| 19:30.02 | ezkl | lol |
| 19:30.04 | mindjuju | ibot, are you a boy? |
| 19:30.05 | Skinner | lol |
| 19:30.15 | TuxToaster | we have to assume ibot is a girl because of the larts that say "her" |
| 19:30.17 | Skinner | ~8ball are you a boy? |
| 19:30.17 | ibot | No. |
| 19:30.38 | ezkl | ~8ball Is ibot confused? |
| 19:30.38 | ibot | Negative. |
| 19:30.38 | Skinner | ~8ball So you are a girl. |
| 19:30.38 | ibot | Absolutely. |
| 19:30.43 | Skinner | LOL |
| 19:30.48 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:30.49 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:30.54 | TuxToaster | ~8ball are you confused? |
| 19:30.54 | ibot | Yes. |
| 19:31.01 | Skinner | It is decided then |
| 19:31.03 | TuxToaster | ~ibot++ |
| 19:31.31 | TuxToaster | ~friend mindjuju |
| 19:31.31 | ibot | see also: ~lart mindjuju |
| 19:31.40 | ezkl | ibotXX |
| 19:32.00 | mindjuju | ibot, are you androgynous ? |
| 19:34.16 | mindjuju | ~tuxtoaster |
| 19:34.16 | mindjuju | ibot, tuxtoaster is neither a penguin nor toast |
| 19:34.17 | ibot | ACTION pours gas all over is neither a penguin nor toast, stands back and tosses a match |
| 19:34.18 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:34.29 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 19:34.33 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:34.49 | TuxToaster | it's only a two minute delay... |
| 19:35.52 | mindjuju | next up, Can you Feel it by the Jackson 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhz-ysgUzc |
| 19:36.00 | mindjuju | don't try to figure it out, you'll buffer overflow |
| 19:36.03 | TuxToaster | and by "corny music videos" you mean the new Thanksgiving song, right? |
| 19:36.26 | mindjuju | i don't have a factoid on "Thanksgiving Song" |
| 19:36.32 | TuxToaster | seriously? |
| 19:36.33 | Skinner | Oh please no |
| 19:36.54 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Come play in our TT room. |
| 19:36.58 | Skinner | Avert thine eyes brother! |
| 19:37.23 | mindjuju | i'll jump in there here in 2 minutes when video is over |
| 19:37.24 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBq8geuJk0 |
| 19:37.28 | mindjuju | Skinner, you no like? |
| 19:37.53 | Skinner | The video is so corny |
| 19:38.00 | mindjuju | i know, i love it! |
| 19:38.15 | mindjuju | i also LOVE Flash Gordon, all 80s Kung Fu movies, etc |
| 19:38.35 | Skinner | "Turkey! Ya! Mashed potatoes! Ya!"......really? That's the best lyrics they can do? |
| 19:38.43 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:39.14 | ezkl | lol |
| 19:39.17 | mindjuju | this feels like rebecca black song |
| 19:39.28 | ezkl | I wonder what epic mealtime is going to do for thanksgiving |
| 19:39.34 | TuxToaster | which is fitting, since I have mindjuju to blame for ever having seen Rebecca Black |
| 19:39.58 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: produced by the same guy |
| 19:40.09 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:40.24 | TuxToaster | apparently his capabilities are not very wide |
| 19:40.26 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:41.08 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:41.26 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:41.35 | mindjuju | she's really rapping? |
| 19:41.53 | mindjuju | wow |
| 19:42.28 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://dresdencodak.tumblr.com/image/35641313931 |
| 19:42.59 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: hang on, I think he's got a couple more "wow"'s on the way first. |
| 19:43.28 | ninnypants | I don't think I ever made it through the whole movie |
| 19:43.36 | Skinner | I'm a fan of 80's kung fo movies too, but this video....should be recorded onto a VHS, then put into a VCR with a defective or worn rubber idler tire causing the tape to be eaten. Then the whole mess microwaved for 2 minutes and then thrown into Mount Doom. |
| 19:43.59 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: lol. And that pic needs a similar one with Chuck Norris |
| 19:44.20 | TuxToaster | Skinner: lol. tell us how you really feel |
| 19:44.29 | Skinner | Apparently hungry. |
| 19:45.17 | mindjuju | sorry buffer overflow from thanksgiving song |
| 19:45.23 | mindjuju | brain coming back online |
| 19:45.33 | TuxToaster | Skinner: which video is that? I didn't see any roundhouse kicking in the other one he linked |
| 19:46.27 | Skinner | There may be some confusion. All my comments have been about the Thanksgiving Video. |
| 19:46.37 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:46.42 | Skinner | (not the jackson 5 one) |
| 19:46.45 | TuxToaster | ah ok |
| 19:47.11 | TuxToaster | yeah, it works. Minus the kung fu. |
| 19:52.43 | ezkl | MJJJJ |
| 19:53.42 | SunSparc | What the what?! I defined a constant, called that constant in a function, and got this: "Notice: Use of undefined constant". But constants have no scope, or their scope is always global. What gives? |
| 19:54.01 | TuxToaster | constants can have scope if you define a class constant |
| 19:54.12 | TuxToaster | but anyways, got a pastebin? |
| 19:55.57 | ezkl | http://jsfiddle.net mmm...mmm... good |
| 19:56.36 | mindjuju | TuxToaster - back at ya - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOOiGnsnAWg |
| 19:58.03 | TuxToaster | how do people think this will sell stuff? |
| 19:58.08 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: http://pastebin.com/wtbLjVvD |
| 19:58.19 | TuxToaster | if anything it might scare people away from shopping there again |
| 19:58.54 | mindjuju | i think having a cheerleading squad there reviewing my purchases might help me to buy things healthier |
| 19:59.24 | SunSparc | mindjuju: lol, yeah, freaky |
| 20:01.26 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: worked for me... I really like myconstantvalue in my coffee. |
| 20:03.05 | TuxToaster | http://cl.ly/image/3u3S1Y3N2n1m |
| 20:06.23 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:07.16 | SunSparc | Yeah, that is what is baffling me. |
| 20:10.48 | SunSparc | Oh, I found the problem TuxToaster. The included file was not on the server I was testing on. Doh! |
| 20:10.53 | SunSparc | ~TuxToaster++ |
| 20:12.02 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:12.56 | TuxToaster | $8ball is SunSparc loosing his mind? |
| 20:12.56 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is decidedly so. |
| 20:13.12 | SunSparc | This is not news. |
| 20:15.54 | romanovic | ok postgres experts, any idea how to get around using column aliases in the ORDER BY clause? |
| 20:16.15 | TuxToaster | <troll>use MySQL?</troll> |
| 20:16.15 | romanovic | (which you can do in mysql, but NOT postgres) |
| 20:16.47 | mindjuju | romanovic, if you are looking for a postgres kung fu master, you want eggyknap |
| 20:17.33 | TuxToaster | if I remember right you have to put the full expression in the order by |
| 20:17.56 | romanovic | that would be really ugly... |
| 20:18.01 | TuxToaster | I think postgres will let you do column aliases, just not ones referencing results of functions, etc. |
| 20:18.39 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 20:18.41 | romanovic | SELECT location.*, <some really long, ugly, mathematic expression here that should not ever need to be used more than once in a query> as distance |
| 20:18.45 | SunSparc | Wait, what? MySQL does something that Postgres cannot? |
| 20:19.04 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: there are a few things there.... |
| 20:19.30 | romanovic | I reeeally don't want to add an ORDER BY <some really long, ugly, mathematic expression here that should not ever need to be used more than once in a query> |
| 20:19.32 | TuxToaster | at least back when I dealt with both DBs side-by-side there were definitely limitations |
| 20:20.03 | TuxToaster | romanovic: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/sql-select.html#SQL-ORDERBY |
| 20:20.31 | TuxToaster | Each expression can be the name or ordinal number of an output column (SELECT list item), or it can be an arbitrary expression formed from input-column values. |
| 20:30.01 | eggyknap | romanovic: another option: SELECT * FROM (SELECT foo, bar, baz, some_really_long_expression AS thing FROM ...) f ORDER BY thing |
| 20:31.03 | romanovic | eggyknap: trying a subquery just like that now |
| 20:31.46 | romanovic | although, now it is giving me errors like "column 'f.id' must appear in the GROUP BY clause or be used in an aggregate function" ... any ideas? |
| 20:31.57 | eggyknap | What's the query? |
| 20:32.23 | TuxToaster | your grouping and such would likely need to be within the subquery as well |
| 20:35.26 | romanovic | TuxToaster: i'm not using any grouping, but I am using having and order by, and both of those require the column alias, which is what makes the subquery necessary in the first place |
| 20:35.43 | romanovic | eggyknap: the query (sans tokens that will be added later): http://pastebin.com/GcyKPQiA |
| 20:36.24 | eggyknap | If you're using HAVING, you should have a GROUP BY somewhere |
| 20:36.52 | eggyknap | Also, it looks like PostGIS would serve you well. |
| 20:37.29 | eggyknap | The only thing I'd do (other than possibly use PostGIS instead) is s/HAVING/WHERE. |
| 20:40.06 | romanovic | looks like that worked! forgot about the HAVING, it was left over from the original query before i threw the subquery into the middle of it |
| 20:40.44 | romanovic | thanks eggyknap, TuxToaster for the help |
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| 20:41.44 | TuxToaster | yup yup, PostGIS is definitely interesting for storing locations |
| 20:44.15 | eggyknap | romanovic: the advantage of postgis for this query would be that 1) you wouldn't have to handle the distance formula manually, and it would use great circle distance, so the distance would end up more accurage. |
| 20:50.46 | Skinner | real php question. I forgot the function that will take two arrays. The function will update the value of a key in the master array if that same key exists in the secondary array... |
| 20:51.10 | TuxToaster | Skinner: as opposed to fake php question? |
| 20:51.17 | Skinner | exactly |
| 20:51.26 | TuxToaster | array_merge will do that to a point |
| 20:51.39 | Skinner | except it appends the non-matches |
| 20:51.40 | TuxToaster | but it will add the items that don't exist in the first array |
| 20:51.41 | Skinner | right? |
| 20:51.58 | Skinner | is there a function that does the same as array merge without the appending? |
| 20:53.23 | Skinner | I've been looking around php.net but not finding that. |
| 20:53.31 | Skinner | I thought there was a function that did that. |
| 20:54.14 | TuxToaster | I think array_replace is what you're after |
| 20:54.44 | TuxToaster | hmm, nope, it will also append keys |
| 20:55.11 | Skinner | Ya that's the issue I keep finding. |
| 20:55.35 | Skinner | Not really an 'issue', i just don't want the extra stuff appended. |
| 20:56.38 | TuxToaster | yeah, I know you can obviously do it with a foreach, but could swear there's a function for that |
| 20:56.49 | Skinner | I know right? |
| 20:56.56 | Skinner | That's what I thought too. |
| 20:57.03 | Skinner | But I can't find it...lol |
| 21:03.39 | TuxToaster | makes two of us :P |
| 21:04.05 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: I sent that Thanksgiving video to someone else this morning, he just watched it and pointed out this comment on it "something about a huge black guy with shitload of prison tattoos coming over and hanging out with 12 year olds is just really unsettling to me." |
| 21:07.07 | Skinner | What about this: array_replace($master, array_intersect_key($seconary, $master)) |
| 21:09.27 | TuxToaster | that would probably work if the keys match |
| 21:09.49 | TuxToaster | if not you could probably get similar results with just array_intersect, |
| 21:10.17 | TuxToaster | funny that there are TWO functions that will merge values and append items and none that just merge values without appending |
| 21:10.26 | Skinner | i know |
| 21:11.09 | Skinner | the issue is that I need EVERY key from the master no matter what, I just want the values in the master array updated with the matching key in the secondary array. |
| 21:13.05 | Skinner | Oh well, that idea i posted will probably suffice |
| 21:19.00 | ninnypants | Skinner: array_diff then array_merge |
| 21:19.54 | ninnypants | well maybe not since it only gives back the values that aren't in the one |
| 21:22.14 | SunSparc | That presents an interesting mental image. |
| 21:25.57 | ninnypants | Skinner: $merge_array = array_intersect_key( $array2, $array1 ); $new_array = array_merge( $array1, $merge_array ); |
| 21:28.05 | TuxToaster | that seems like the same thing he was testing above |
| 21:28.12 | TuxToaster | although with array_replace instead of array_merge |
| 21:28.14 | TuxToaster | but same idea |
| 21:28.50 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: hmm didn't see that |
| 21:30.33 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: obviously mine is better ;) |
| 21:30.47 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 21:31.35 | *** join/#uphpu Benni_Hanna (~Benni_Han@neutroninteractive-xmission.xmission.com) |
| 21:37.42 | Skinner | fake php question. I want to send fax to my tv containing the language drivers and settings of my mouse. What is the appropriate color of background to use in my IDE to accomplish this and where can I download that color? |
| 21:38.25 | Skinner | TuxToaster: There ya go. |
| 21:40.03 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:42.12 | *** join/#uphpu josephscott (~josephsco@208.95.156.134) |
| 21:44.30 | fungus | Skinner, You should use white, since faxes are mostly white. And you can download it from the white house website. http://whitehouse.gov |
| 21:45.16 | macnewbold | Skinner: it's a good thing you prefixed that with "fake php question." otherwise there may have been confusion |
| 21:45.30 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 21:46.22 | Skinner | :) |
| 21:50.27 | mindjuju | any MBP folks in the house? |
| 21:50.35 | mindjuju | mgeary or carmony |
| 21:50.39 | mgeary | hey |
| 21:51.12 | mindjuju | do you have time for a trivial MBP question, i'm trying to find the adapters I need for MBP -> projector |
| 21:51.48 | mindjuju | i'm looking at this |
| 21:51.48 | mindjuju | http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&cs_id=1024605&p_id=6004&seq=1&format=2 |
| 21:52.06 | mindjuju | i'm confused because i thought thunderbolt was some even smaller connector |
| 21:52.14 | mindjuju | or am i getting confused with something else? |
| 21:52.43 | mgeary | i've got thunderbolt |
| 21:52.48 | mgeary | it's the same as mini display |
| 21:52.54 | mgeary | so yeah, that seems right |
| 21:53.17 | mgeary | though i can loan you an adapter, if you just need it temporarily |
| 21:53.31 | mindjuju | thx, but i do need it long term |
| 21:53.55 | mindjuju | oh i see what confused me |
| 21:54.06 | mindjuju | i was thinking mini displayport and new was thunderbolt |
| 21:54.19 | mindjuju | but it' actually minidisplayport or thunderbolt AND lighting connector |
| 21:54.30 | fungus | careful |
| 21:54.37 | fungus | thunderbolt and lighting are not the same thing |
| 21:54.49 | fungus | lightning is iphone, ipad, ipod |
| 21:54.58 | mindjuju | yeah, i was mixed up |
| 21:55.00 | fungus | thunderbolt is MBP, MBA, etc |
| 21:55.12 | mgeary | fungus: i thought you were being funny there for a sec |
| 21:55.37 | fungus | and the mini-displayport connector is forward compatible w/ thunderbolt |
| 21:58.14 | SunSparc | That is nice. |
| 22:02.07 | TuxToaster | well, it is in the sense that the thunderbolt connector is backwards compatible with mini-displayport devices. But some things are a bit picky when plugged in to the thunderbolt port |
| 22:13.17 | jsmith | Thunderbolt and lightning, very very frightening... Galileo.... Figaro? |
| 22:13.43 | mindjuju | everybody give Freddie Mercury a hand |
| 22:14.17 | jsmith | Sorry, couldn't resist the urge to give everyone an ear virus this afternoon |
| 22:14.21 | *** part/#uphpu captbrogers (~brian@128.187.200.118) |
| 22:14.35 | jsmith | And now you'll be singing it all evening .... muah ha ha haaaa.... |
| 22:15.08 | mindjuju | i think i'm doing well listening to the front242 remix of O fortuna |
| 22:23.01 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:23.01 | raifbot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking kendsnyder's head off. |
| 22:23.11 | TuxToaster | $8ball did it need to be rusty? |
| 22:23.11 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Most likely. |
| 22:24.04 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://soundcloud.com/monstercatmedia/tut-tut-child-made-it-for-me |
| 22:25.20 | mindjuju | hang on , i'm listening to Fear 2, it's my current favorite |
| 22:25.43 | mindjuju | I could restart it and play it via TT |
| 22:25.44 | ninnypants | not sure I've heard that |
| 22:26.08 | mindjuju | actually, i can dropbox it for ya |
| 22:26.12 | mindjuju | that's cheaper/easier |
| 22:27.27 | mindjuju | ninnypants - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/65737/Fear%202%20-%20Roxiller.mp3 |
| 22:29.36 | ninnypants | http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/psa-transition-to-cyanogenmod-org |
| 22:34.48 | ninnypants | mindjuju: good stuff |
| 22:46.45 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: have you seen this? http://littlebits.cc/ |
| 22:47.11 | ninnypants | no but it looks cool |
| 22:52.18 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: I was just testing a page and accidentally switched tabs |
| 22:52.36 | TuxToaster | I was a bit confused when the page was printing out "I really like myconstantvalue in my coffee" |
| 23:01.02 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: lol :) |
| 23:03.31 | SunSparc | ~constant TuxToaster |
| 23:04.14 | SunSparc | define('TUXTOASTER', 'My Minecraft server admin.'); |
| 23:09.25 | DexterTheDragon | ~constant SunSparc |
| 23:09.38 | *** join/#uphpu supernovia (~Adium@208.64.91.46.static.utbb.net) |
| 23:10.32 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:11.30 | TuxToaster | ~variable SunSparc |
| 23:12.51 | TuxToaster | w00t |
| 23:13.05 | TuxToaster | my wife saw a collector's set of the Sound of Music at Best Buy for $70 |
| 23:13.13 | TuxToaster | I just picked it up for $29 |
| 23:13.25 | fungus | ~grats TuxToaster |
| 23:13.40 | TuxToaster | I love finding deals like that |
| 23:13.42 | fungus | The hills are ... |
| 23:19.07 | SunSparc | Yes. Yes they are. |
