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16:03.09captbrogers~slender TuxToaster
16:03.18captbrogershmm, he doesn't seem to be on
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16:05.08captbrogers~slender TuxToaster
16:05.09slenderbotI will stalk TuxToaster
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16:15.21mindjujucool song i heard on the way to work today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ
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16:27.52bbtb1982all I'm looking at setting up a HelpDesk ticket system.  preferably its going to be easy to install and use. its for simple customer support. we can host it or it can be a SASS solution.  thx
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16:30.22DexterTheDragonbbtb1982: http://tenderapp.com/
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16:30.37bbtb1982thx
16:32.01TuxToaster$lart slenderbot
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16:37.58DexterTheDragonmindjuju: ninnypants: http://nbatos.podomatic.com/enclosure/2012-11-02T20_27_33-07_00.mp3
16:48.56SunSparcmindjuju: Adele got to do a 007 theme song eh?  Cool.
16:51.38herloSunSparc: that's so last month! :)
16:51.46ninnypantsfor anyone who didn't get it here's the voter info packet http://elections.utah.gov/Media/Default/VIP/2012%20Voter%20Information%20Pamphlet.pdf
16:51.54herloSunSparc: but it is a very nice song.
16:51.59SunSparcherlo: lol
16:52.51SunSparcherlo: So last month eh.  How about this one:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHA1Cv9XsBk
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16:55.11SunSparcninnypants: Thanks for that.  I have been waiting for that.
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16:57.51ninnypantsSunSparc: yeah I realized I hadn't recieved one and didn't really know anything about the local elections
17:00.51SunSparcninnypants: lol, now I have to cram for the test tomorrow.
17:01.19SunSparcbbtb1982: Have you considered something like http://www.uservoice.com/  or  http://userecho.com/
17:01.40TuxToaster"I really wanna get this right. I want to win that car." -- SunSparc
17:02.08SunSparcWhahuh?
17:02.50herloSunSparc: that, sir, is so 1983!
17:03.00SunSparcLOL
17:03.09SunSparcAnd it still rocks.
17:03.28herloyup!
17:03.44SunSparcYeah, they have some fun stuff.
17:04.49TuxToasterSunSparc: http://www.hulu.com/watch/4165
17:04.58TuxToasterit's a reference from that, which is hilarious
17:05.40herloamong the best, Rocket, Pyromania, Love Bites, Hysteria, Pour Some Sugar on Me, Excitable, Photograph, Rock of Ages, etc.
17:05.43herlowow, so many....
17:07.01SunSparcYep.  :)
17:09.10SunSparcTuxToaster: That is hilarious.  I have never seen that one.
17:09.34TuxToasterSunSparc: now you have. :-)
17:09.53TuxToaster"Guess I kind of overshot it with that 80, huh?"
17:10.11TuxToaster"You'll have to ask one of the other 79 people." "You mean your wife?" "Yeah."
17:10.15TuxToasterlol
17:11.12SunSparclol
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17:22.14TuxToasterhttp://www.ksl.com/?sid=22830864&nid=157 wow. Not that I don't feel for the family... but putting your 2 year old on the edge of the fence so that he can see wild dogs? Not smart.
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19:33.07ninnypantshttp://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/
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20:28.22SunSparcninnypants: ridiculous and broken
20:32.25mindjujuhard to separate fact from fiction in that article
20:33.24SunSparcGood call.
20:35.22mindjujuthat reminds me, anybody in orem need a ride to vote, PM me, i'll haul ya, though i'm planning on being there around 630a to vote at 7a
20:35.42mindjujui'm voting at hillshire elm (or some name like that)
20:37.38mindjujuhillcrest, hillshire is a maker of fine hams ;)
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21:03.20SunSparcMmm.... fine hams.  My precinct is voting in a new location this time around.
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21:41.07mindjujuwow, talk about shades of gray
21:41.21mindjujufirst a friend of mine posts this on FB http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/industry/259517-graham-says-hell-block
21:41.45mindjujuabout def contractors being asked to NOT notify employees of pink slips
21:41.53mindjujuwith the undertone that it is political
21:41.57mindjujuthen i research and find this
21:42.03mindjujuhttp://articles.courant.com/2012-11-04/news/hc-ed-lockheed-election-politics-20121104_1_layoff-notices-defense-contractor-worker-adjustment
21:42.34TuxToasteroh, good, for a second there I thought you were talking about 50 Shades of Grey
21:42.35TuxToaster:P
21:42.46mindjuju:)
21:43.03mindjujueverything so convoluted these days, hedging bets on different sides
21:43.22mindjujuit's like, freakin' The Young and the Restless
21:43.36unumthe layoffs are dependent upon of the stupid budget cut thing gets killed or not
21:43.39unumI predict it dies
21:43.49unumno matter who wins
21:43.57TuxToasterlol
21:44.09mindjujuwhich is what the OMB is suggesting
21:44.18TuxToastermindjuju: if life is a soap opera, why don't we all look like soap opera stars instead of nerds?
21:44.33TuxToaster... and.... what was that dramatic music that just played when I asked that question?
21:44.41mindjujuheh
21:45.37mindjujuTuxToaster, this is what happened here when you asked - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhBM_Yay6w
21:45.57TuxToasterLOL
21:46.04TuxToasterhaven't seen that in a few years
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21:59.05SunSparclol
21:59.21SunSparc~undo lol
21:59.44SunSparc~switch lol to heh
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22:01.34TuxToaster$8ball will that work?
22:01.34raifbotTuxToaster - My reply is no.
22:01.46TuxToaster$8ball is SunSparc doomed to hit the lolstats again?
22:01.46raifbotTuxToaster - Cannot predict now.
22:02.06TuxToaster$8ball will you know more after voting tomorrow?
22:02.07raifbotTuxToaster - Outlook not so good.
22:02.11TuxToasterheh
22:02.34TuxToastertruer words were never randomly generated...
22:03.14SunSparc|o|
22:03.36SunSparc1o1
22:03.44TuxToaster~|o|stats
22:03.47SunSparcl0l
22:04.10SunSparcibot: hello?
22:04.10ibotHowdy Bub
22:04.30SunSparcibot: Who are you calling Bub?
22:04.31ibotSunSparc: what are you talking about?
22:04.44mindjujudoesn't Wolverine always call people bub?
22:05.13SunSparcYeah, but he has really long knives
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22:21.11unumI agree outlook not so good
22:21.14unumI like thunderbird
22:33.53SunSparcWhat about Pine?
22:35.58TuxToastermutt
22:36.13TuxToasterbut I say screw all of those.
22:36.42TuxToasterI don't use email clients. But when I do, I send my message via Pony Express.
22:39.00croI've been enjoying Postbox a lot, based on Thunderbird.  Payware, but worth it I think.  Good gmail integration.
22:41.03croLOVE Sparrow, but it's Mac only and they were acquired by Google this past summer.
22:41.15romanovicgit wizards out there - am I correct in assuming its not possible to visualise branching/merging when all merges are fast-forwards?
22:42.41romanovicgit log --graph and gitk are both handy, but once my feature / dev branches are merged back into master, the history is one long boring line.
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22:47.50SunSparcTuxToaster: lol, PE is almost as good as carrier pigeons.
22:48.00captbrogersPft, so mainstream
22:48.03captbrogersI use smoke signals
22:48.15SunSparcHow
22:48.16TuxToasterSunSparc: ooh that would have been good too
22:48.48TuxToasterI just throw a rock at the other guy when I want his attention
22:49.12SunSparcThat works, but can have some interesting side effects
22:49.46SunSparcromanovic: I use git every day, but I am not thare wizardy... yet.  Have not delved into the graphs much.
22:50.28romanovicI haven't much either.
22:51.43romanovicI thought it would be useful to visualise all the branch dynamics over the course of a project, but it doesn't appear that can be done unless the merges were non-ff merges (had their own explicit commit)
22:52.14SunSparcHmm...
22:55.31SunSparcromanovic: Do you know about the --all switch?
22:55.58SunSparcWas just reading about it here on SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1838873/visualizing-branch-topology-in-git
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22:57.54romanovicah, yeah that was one of the top results i saw too.  i tried --all, but it didn't make a difference, since all branches are effectively pointing to commits underneath the master branch
22:58.32romanovicin my case, the branches and master are all pointing to the most recent commit, and the entire history before that point has been flattened to a single line
22:58.52SunSparcBummer
22:59.20SunSparcI would think there would be some way to still visualize the history though.
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23:12.56ninnypantsthere seems to be a lot of talk about voter fraud this elecetion
23:15.39tierraand virtually no actual voter fraud to speak of... how ironic
23:15.45tierra;)
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23:18.25ninnypantstierra: true
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23:21.30SunSparctierra: Unless you are speaking tongue in cheek, I heard that Fox was reporting about machines that are switching votes.
23:21.50stderr-that's not voter fraud.
23:25.12ninnypantsactually I guess fraud isn't the word I wanted but voter supression
23:25.25ninnypantsSunSparc: I've read a couple things about that as well
23:25.48SunSparcstderr-: good point :)
23:25.49ninnypantshttp://www.prosebeforehos.com/political-ironing/10/12/las-vegas-slots-versus-electronic-voting-machines/
23:26.00MikeHansenMeI think Romney owns shares in the company that manufactures the voting machines.
23:26.09DexterTheDragonninnypants: voter fraud is the guise being used to do the voter supression
23:26.17ninnypantsDexterTheDragon: yep
23:26.40BikerdanIs there a UPHPU turntable room?
23:27.03BikerdanCause if there isn't, there should be.
23:28.05SunSparcBikerdan: I have mentioned it before.  :)
23:28.16BikerdanBut no traction?
23:28.18SunSparcIt would be interesting to see what kind of music was played in there.
23:28.24SunSparcBikerdan: Nope
23:28.34BikerdanStart one... I'll jump in.
23:28.38stderr-MikeHansenMe: that's simplifying the connection, but yea, Bain / Romney have a significant investment in a company that produces voting machines in several swing states.
23:29.18SunSparcBikerdan: http://turntable.fm/uphpu
23:30.07BikerdanK.  One min...
23:30.26stderr-Even if Romney / his supporters were looking to manipulate machines, though, they'd have to do a whoooooooole of hacking to get all of the swing states they need to win.  
23:30.41stderr-(I don't really think they are, but I'm generally anti-electronic voting machines anyway)
23:30.42TuxToasterI thought we had a turntable room at some point
23:31.06SunSparcTuxToaster: Have you ever been in it?
23:32.37TuxToasternope
23:32.45TuxToasterI just vaguely remember someone mentioning it
23:34.43SunSparcMaybe you are just remembering us talking about it.
23:35.22TuxToasterpossibly
23:38.18captbrogersPfft, you youngins and your music. I listen to talk radio all day
23:38.39SunSparccaptbrogers: been there, tried that  ;)
23:39.10captbrogersSunSparc: Mostly because of the election, I think I may go back to music when it's all over
23:40.28SunSparccaptbrogers: I used to be all into what radio hosts had to say about politics.  Then I got tired of the same old rhetoric.
23:41.31SunSparcNever could really believe that what any of them were saying was true or just hype for entertainment value like the visual media branch.
23:41.59TuxToasterFYI, we just figured out that IE doesn't like to set cookies if the hostname of a site contains an underscore
23:42.09TuxToasterso there's something silly to watch out for
23:43.46SunSparc~lart IE
23:43.46ibotblasts IE to oblivion with a kamehameha wave
23:43.54SunSparcGood one ibot.
23:51.52SunSparcmindjuju, ninnypants feel free to join the UPHPU room on TurnTable.
23:52.56macnewboldits nice
23:53.23SunSparcAs macnewbold spins his first track.
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23:58.19TuxToaster$8ball is SunSparc spying on macnewbold?
23:58.19raifbotTuxToaster - Cannot predict now.
23:58.41TuxToaster$8ball is your 8ball broken?
23:58.41raifbotTuxToaster - My sources say no.
23:59.04TuxToaster~lart raifbot's sources
23:59.04ibotholds raifbot's sources to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
23:59.17TuxToasterthat's awkward.

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