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| 01:11.24 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: ummm... well... this is awkward. |
| 01:11.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 01:11.53 | TuxToaster | server came back up fine with the new memory, though I need to apparently rebuld the kernel with high memory support |
| 01:11.59 | TuxToaster | but the servers folder is empty |
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| 01:28.13 | TuxToaster | gah. no idea what happened.. |
| 01:28.30 | TuxToaster | can't find any trace or log or anything to indicate why they were deleted |
| 01:29.18 | jsmith | Was it something else that was mounted there, and it didn't get re-mounted? |
| 01:30.09 | TuxToaster | actually, just found it... |
| 01:30.18 | TuxToaster | and it makes NO sense why they have it set up this way |
| 01:30.41 | TuxToaster | when I installed the distro (MineOS) it offered to use ramdisks, which made sense to speed up the server |
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| 01:31.09 | TuxToaster | what I apparently didn't realize is that it set it up so that the servers folder was a link to said ramdisk |
| 01:31.33 | TuxToaster | so, there's a backup from a few days ago, but that's about it. |
| 01:31.46 | TuxToaster | ~fail |
| 01:31.46 | ibot | FAIL. |
| 01:33.46 | peno | Heartsbane: STOP DISRUPTING THINGS |
| 01:34.51 | jsmith | TuxToaster: Double-ouch... |
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| 01:35.33 | TuxToaster | yup. Can't figure out how they possibly thought that would be a good idea... but I'm getting rid of it. |
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| 01:37.14 | josephscott | http://uphpu.org/2012/09/20/wade-time-to-update-the-wordpress-inst/ |
| 01:37.52 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 01:41.00 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: lol, sounds like the initial version of Amazon's EC2 product. The file system lived in RAM. Stop the server, file system joins /dev/null. :) |
| 01:41.08 | TuxToaster | apparently |
| 01:41.20 | TuxToaster | makes me wish I had set the backup to be more frequent |
| 01:41.22 | SunSparc | josephscott: LOL, nice post. |
| 01:41.32 | TuxToaster | looks like it was last updated on the 14th |
| 01:41.33 | josephscott | offline ping :-) |
| 01:42.05 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: lol, no worries, I can rebuild, I have the technology. |
| 01:42.11 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 01:42.29 | TuxToaster | I'm goign to build the kernel and boot it, then I'll restore the backup |
| 01:43.05 | SunSparc | Cool. Of course, I cannot complain too much when I am not doing any of the work. :) |
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| 01:50.27 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 01:53.27 | TuxToaster | oooh |
| 01:53.33 | TuxToaster | so the backup folder might have been from the 14th |
| 01:53.44 | TuxToaster | but looks like the archive was happening daily. |
| 01:54.06 | TuxToaster | and happened.... around 2:00 PM |
| 01:54.07 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 01:55.43 | supernovia | WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? |
| 01:55.45 | supernovia | :p |
| 01:57.36 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Nice! |
| 01:58.16 | SunSparc | supernovia: I am also at home. I assume you are at the awesome UPHPU monthly meeting. |
| 01:58.35 | supernovia | Whatever, guys ;-p |
| 01:58.36 | supernovia | :) |
| 01:58.39 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 01:59.26 | TuxToaster | though there was a lot more sadness and crying than there is when I'm not there. :P |
| 02:02.03 | supernovia | Hahahah |
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| 02:28.58 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: should be up and good |
| 02:28.59 | TuxToaster | I think |
| 02:30.38 | SunSparc | Same address and port? |
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| 02:31.01 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 02:32.34 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Does not seem to be responding on the given address:port |
| 02:32.47 | TuxToaster | yeah seeing the same |
| 02:33.42 | SunSparc | lol |
| 02:37.31 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: It connects to ther server but then says that it fails to verify the username. |
| 02:38.08 | SunSparc | Looking it up now... |
| 02:40.00 | TuxToaster | yeah I just read something that suggests it could be stheir stuff as well but where I just restarted it, never know |
| 02:40.33 | TuxToaster | oh wait |
| 02:40.33 | TuxToaster | sec |
| 02:41.58 | TuxToaster | just actually read the other part of the message, where it says unknown host. Fixing the resolv.conf file. :-) |
| 02:42.11 | SunSparc | Ah, nice. :) |
| 02:42.50 | TuxToaster | woot |
| 02:42.56 | SunSparc | I am in! Just as I left it. |
| 02:43.02 | SunSparc | No data loss. |
| 02:43.08 | SunSparc | Good work TuxToaster! |
| 02:43.16 | SunSparc | ~TuxToaster++ |
| 02:43.22 | TuxToaster | woot woot |
| 02:44.10 | SunSparc | Good call. |
| 02:44.30 | SunSparc | Now to go put my kids to bed so I can play. :) |
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| 04:38.07 | tierra | heh, looks like wade upgraded uphpu.org WP |
| 04:46.34 | josephscott | yeah, then he must have deleted my post afterwards :-( |
| 04:49.32 | josephscott | RSS feed saved it though :) |
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| 14:18.01 | SunSparc | ~sleep mindjuju |
| 14:18.01 | ibot | ACTION sends mindjuju to bed without supper |
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| 14:33.58 | captbrogers | Anyone know how to do regular expressions really well? |
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| 14:51.10 | herlo | captbrogers: nobody knows that really well |
| 14:52.48 | captbrogers | herlo: It's a black magiv |
| 14:52.50 | captbrogers | magic |
| 14:52.58 | herlo | captbrogers: exactly! |
| 14:53.00 | captbrogers | But gskinner.com to the rescue again |
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| 14:57.06 | Bikerdan | captbrogers: still need help? |
| 14:57.12 | captbrogers | No, I got it |
| 14:57.16 | Bikerdan | coo |
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| 14:59.48 | captbrogers | gskinner.com/RegExr/ let's you put in some dummy code, adjust the pattern, and make sure it matches. Actually figured it out |
| 15:00.34 | Bikerdan | sweet |
| 15:00.57 | Bikerdan | I usually do that with editplus or sublime text... You can do regular expression searches |
| 15:01.09 | Bikerdan | Guess you can in netbeans too |
| 15:02.34 | Bikerdan | capt |
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| 15:02.42 | Bikerdan | captbrogers: that's pretty coool |
| 15:02.49 | Bikerdan | def worthy of a bookmark |
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| 15:03.36 | captbrogers | I have sublimetext, and that might work next time, but habit to use gskinner.com |
| 15:03.50 | Bikerdan | gskinner seems pretty helpful |
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| 15:07.00 | Bikerdan | captbrogers: That's funny... Looks like I had it bookmarked already. :) |
| 15:08.58 | captbrogers | Ah ha ha |
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| 15:09.11 | captbrogers | I hate that, when you get so many bookmarks built up that you forget about some |
| 15:09.20 | Bikerdan | I thought it looked a little familiar... :) |
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| 15:10.04 | Bikerdan | I wonder if chrome has a plugin that would return bookmark results when you do a search... |
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| 15:11.23 | Bikerdan | It appears they do! |
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| 15:17.46 | Bikerdan | There's also a VIM plugin for chrome... vimium... :) |
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| 15:20.30 | Bikerdan | Also, for those of you who haven't heard of gleeBox... http://thegleebox.com/ |
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| 15:20.39 | Bikerdan | I recommend |
| 15:21.10 | captbrogers | If this has anything to do with the show Glee, I _will_ find a way to hit you through the internet |
| 15:21.20 | Bikerdan | I promise... It does not. |
| 15:21.25 | Bikerdan | You will love it |
| 15:21.58 | Bikerdan | every wanna navigate the web without your mouse.... |
| 15:22.05 | Bikerdan | And without using wget. |
| 15:22.17 | Bikerdan | -every +ever |
| 15:23.30 | stderr- | I just wish I could find a good Chrome plugin to emulate emacs commands correctly. |
| 15:36.03 | fungus | is the gleeBox a media center box that only plays Glee episodes? |
| 15:37.07 | fungus | I sure am jonesing for some more Glee |
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| 15:41.50 | mindjuju | ive got to admit, i've never seen glee before |
| 15:42.21 | mindjuju | but then, i also missed all of Lost(but i did read the wiki), all of 24, all of Heroes, Jericho, Dollhouse, etc etc |
| 15:42.26 | mindjuju | can't wait til i graduate |
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| 15:45.00 | TuxToaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XNBP18nrRdw |
| 15:51.30 | Bikerdan | TuxToaster: That's pretty funny. |
| 15:51.36 | Bikerdan | Almost made me want one. |
| 15:51.44 | Bikerdan | Did you see that tape measure feature?! |
| 15:52.15 | Bikerdan | And the guitar... That's just awesome. |
| 15:52.42 | clondon | yeah the guitar is awesome |
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| 15:53.47 | TuxToaster | exactly |
| 15:54.07 | TuxToaster | I wouldn't want that in my pocket or anything, but would be useful to have a screen that size sometimes |
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| 16:18.55 | macnewbold | what they need to do is use flexible screen technology, so that you can stretch your iphone taller, and it unrolls more screen as you pull |
| 16:19.11 | macnewbold | and can put it back to normalish size when you're done with your air guitar tape measure |
| 16:19.56 | Bikerdan | Anyone here getting the iPhone5? |
| 16:20.36 | clondon | I'm holding out for the iPhone 10 |
| 16:20.47 | Bikerdan | I heard it will be fatter. |
| 16:20.48 | clondon | I want to make sure they get all the kinks out of it ;) |
| 16:21.06 | clondon | just kidding… I'm still under contract with my Android |
| 16:21.28 | Bikerdan | Is that a good or bad thing in your opinion? |
| 16:21.31 | captbrogers | Did you guys hear why iOS 6 maps were all crappy and malformed? |
| 16:22.02 | mgeary | yeah. crazy |
| 16:22.05 | mgeary | oh, i didn't hear why |
| 16:22.08 | mgeary | just that |
| 16:22.31 | captbrogers | Yeah, it's a result of Jobs' thermonuclear war with Google. |
| 16:22.40 | captbrogers | Oddly enough, only effected Apple |
| 16:23.05 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: well, it's a result because Apple decided to build their own. |
| 16:23.49 | TuxToaster | I can't help but think it was a bit of a scaramble for them, the early betas of it were much worse than what they have now |
| 16:24.02 | TuxToaster | it'd sit and spin (literally, the map would uncontrollably spin) |
| 16:24.43 | captbrogers | I need to start using <joke> or <sarcasm> more |
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| 16:26.07 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 16:26.22 | Bikerdan | So nobody is getting one? |
| 16:26.48 | TuxToaster | I'm going to, but likely not until the end of Oct. |
| 16:26.56 | captbrogers | I couldn't be paid to use one |
| 16:27.10 | TuxToaster | I'm waiting to see if AT&T will give me a discount or not. |
| 16:27.21 | Bikerdan | That's funny... cause I actually make money using them... |
| 16:27.22 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: to each his own. :P |
| 16:27.43 | captbrogers | No TuxToaster, I'm right. My opinion is superior to yours |
| 16:27.45 | Bikerdan | Everytime I upgrade, I sell my old one for more than the new one costs... |
| 16:27.50 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:28.25 | captbrogers | Bikerdan, which says something about the people buying used ones |
| 16:28.38 | Bikerdan | That, or the quality of the phone itself... |
| 16:28.57 | tierra | I agree, captbrogers's opinion is superior to TuxToaster's opinion :) |
| 16:29.36 | captbrogers | It is completely illogical to purchase something that is used for more than it is worth. There are rarities where something will raise in value, but nothing like what you suggest |
| 16:30.05 | Bikerdan | Isn't something worth the amount that people are willing to pay for it? |
| 16:30.12 | captbrogers | Especially if you can buy the latest model for less, brand new |
| 16:30.39 | tierra | and especially in the case of tech |
| 16:30.40 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: much of the market for them is people in countries where they can't buy them, or at least that was the case at one point. |
| 16:30.49 | mgeary | Bikerdan: are you factoring in that you're also renewing your contract? |
| 16:30.56 | mgeary | that's why the new one costs what it does |
| 16:30.58 | Bikerdan | I would do that anyway.... |
| 16:31.02 | mgeary | even so |
| 16:31.03 | tierra | no, it just says a lot about the intelligence of iPhone users ;) |
| 16:31.16 | tierra | heh |
| 16:31.36 | TuxToaster | meh, some users are stupid, yes. |
| 16:31.49 | TuxToaster | but some of us are intelligent and use them simply as a matter of preference. |
| 16:31.55 | captbrogers | I just don't see how selling a used older model iPhone for more than the cost of a brand new latest model iPhone can be spun in any way that makes it a positive thing |
| 16:32.04 | tierra | but you wouldn't pay more for a used iPhone yourself, would you? |
| 16:32.14 | TuxToaster | nope. |
| 16:32.21 | TuxToaster | but I buy mine new anyways. :P |
| 16:32.45 | Bikerdan | mgeary: The top of the line 4g evo phone that came out at the same time as my iphone 4 sells to hardware buyback places for ~$40. My iPhone 4 sells for $~200. |
| 16:33.23 | captbrogers | What about a Galaxy Nexus or Droid Maxx? |
| 16:33.41 | mgeary | i'm not disputing that. i'm just pointing out that you're getting the new one for $199 because AT&T is willing to subsidize the rest of the cost because you're signing a new contract |
| 16:34.10 | fungus | Lame my iPhone delivery is delayed until Wed. <very sad> |
| 16:34.11 | Bikerdan | True. Either way, I make ~50 bucks every time I renew my contract and sell my old iPhone. |
| 16:34.21 | mgeary | power to you |
| 16:34.26 | Bikerdan | True dat |
| 16:35.09 | tierra | I save more than that buying my phone off contract :/ |
| 16:35.24 | Bikerdan | ? |
| 16:35.58 | Bikerdan | fungus: That is sad. |
| 16:36.12 | Bikerdan | fungus: Do you know why? |
| 16:36.13 | tierra | i.e. my monthly bill ends up over $400 cheaper in the course of 2 years |
| 16:36.25 | fungus | You can only save money by buying off contract, if you go through a period of not paying for it. |
| 16:36.33 | tierra | (compared to an iPhone contract) |
| 16:36.45 | fungus | Unless you unlock it and find a cheaper provider |
| 16:37.19 | Bikerdan | tierra: how is your two year usage cheaper than my two year usage? Provider? No data? |
| 16:38.27 | tierra | I could be saving way more by switching to T-mobile, but I am on AT&T, and yes, my monthly bill (from an older plan since I haven't re-signed) is something like $20/month cheaper |
| 16:38.55 | tierra | AT&T doesn't offer it, but t-mobile does much cheaper non-subsidized phone plans |
| 16:38.59 | Bikerdan | So it's cause you have an older plan... Can't you keep the older plan when signing a new contract? |
| 16:39.11 | tierra | that's the thing, I don't sign a new contract |
| 16:39.20 | tierra | don't need to |
| 16:39.23 | Bikerdan | But you could.... ANd the phone would be cheaper.... |
| 16:39.48 | tierra | no, the plan would be $20/mo more from there on out, and over two years, you end up paying way more |
| 16:40.02 | Bikerdan | Why would the plan be more? |
| 16:40.15 | captbrogers | Bikerdan: If I resign my contract, I lose my unlimited data plan. I'll never be signing it again |
| 16:40.18 | Bikerdan | Are you saying they would make you change plans |
| 16:40.19 | tierra | the cost up front for the phone would be cheaper (only $150 compared to my latest Nexus purchase) |
| 16:41.05 | Bikerdan | captbrogers: My friend has unlimited and he keeps it every time he renews his contract. |
| 16:41.10 | tierra | but in two years, I'd be paying roughly $480 more than I do buying off-contract, unlocked phones, and I can leave anytime |
| 16:41.17 | captbrogers | Verizon no longer does that |
| 16:41.21 | captbrogers | If you resign, you lose it |
| 16:41.22 | Bikerdan | Ahhh |
| 16:41.41 | Bikerdan | I'm still not following you tierra... |
| 16:41.41 | captbrogers | They are trying to force everyone off it, they want tiered so they can charge overages |
| 16:42.08 | Bikerdan | tierra: How often do you switch carriers? |
| 16:42.12 | tierra | never have |
| 16:42.16 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 16:42.28 | tierra | that's besides the point |
| 16:42.29 | tierra | though |
| 16:43.00 | Bikerdan | tierra: is it because you're with verizon as well? |
| 16:43.12 | Bikerdan | and you want to keep your unlimited plan? |
| 16:43.35 | Bikerdan | I guess I don't see how yours is 20 cheaper than mine every month just by not having a contract. |
| 16:45.18 | tierra | do the math on the *total* cost of your phone over two years (your usual contract discount rate) - the phone *and* the monthly bill... calculate the difference between that and the same two years on my old plan while buying a new unlocked phone somewhere other than the AT&T store... that's all I'm saying |
| 16:45.36 | tierra | it's always been cheaper for me buying unlocked |
| 16:45.45 | tierra | without even changing providers |
| 16:45.50 | Bikerdan | I understand that. But my argument is that you can keep your old plan and still get the discounted phone. |
| 16:46.06 | tierra | no, you can't |
| 16:46.11 | Bikerdan | Who are you with? |
| 16:46.14 | tierra | AT&T |
| 16:46.17 | Bikerdan | AT&T will let you |
| 16:46.22 | Bikerdan | I've done it. |
| 16:46.25 | tierra | they've never let me |
| 16:46.33 | TuxToaster | I've been on the same plan for at least five years... |
| 16:46.33 | Bikerdan | You should talk to them again... |
| 16:47.05 | tierra | if they still offer the same plan to new customers, yes, but not if they've changed the plans |
| 16:47.16 | Bikerdan | Hasn't been the case with me. |
| 16:47.25 | fungus | tierra, signing a new contract doesn't require a new plan. |
| 16:47.34 | fungus | At least not on ATT or Verizon |
| 16:48.12 | TuxToaster | there are certain features that they do require changing plans for (tethering, mobile hotspots, etc) but I'm still grandfathered in on the unlimited plan that came out in 2007 |
| 16:48.22 | tierra | I've had this dicussion in at least 3 different AT&T stores, and everytime they've told me that for a new two-year contract, I would be forced to join the newer plans |
| 16:48.29 | fungus | Now the move from iphone 1 and the 3G required a new dataplan at that transition. |
| 16:48.51 | Bikerdan | Maybe you should just upgrade on their site.... |
| 16:48.55 | Bikerdan | That's how I do it. |
| 16:49.00 | fungus | tierra, that might be your problem. Store employees usually suck |
| 16:49.03 | fungus | :) |
| 16:49.30 | tierra | I have tried online too, and it pushes new plans too |
| 16:49.40 | fungus | They are too focused on sales. Call in to customer support and bitch them out. They'll give in. |
| 16:49.56 | tierra | maybe you guys don't realize you've been pushed to new plans with different pricing for different features, but it does happen when you sign a new contract |
| 16:50.03 | Bikerdan | What plan do you have tierra? |
| 16:50.06 | Bikerdan | no it doesn't |
| 16:50.08 | Bikerdan | sorry.. |
| 16:50.13 | tierra | I dunno, some old roll-over plan |
| 16:50.15 | Bikerdan | I've done it multiple times. |
| 16:50.20 | fungus | tierra, I've done it hundreds of times in the last year. |
| 16:50.25 | captbrogers | I'd also like to put to rest as to why my Android phone is better than any iPhone. Mine doubles as a sonic screwdriver |
| 16:50.56 | fungus | I guess it's possible that it's only because i'm on a corporate plan and have dedicated sales and such. |
| 16:51.17 | Bikerdan | But I'm not... and I do it. |
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| 16:52.11 | fungus | I still have users on unlimited data plans on ATT, and they have changed phones twice since then. |
| 16:52.32 | fungus | each time w/ new contracts. |
| 16:52.39 | mgeary | same here |
| 16:52.52 | tierra | yeah, that's likely because of corporate plan, that definitely doesn't happen on individual plans |
| 16:52.58 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 16:53.04 | Bikerdan | I'm on an individual plan. |
| 16:53.05 | mgeary | i'm on an individual plan |
| 16:54.18 | fungus | tierra, but I do agree, that having the option to switch carriers or even use your phone in another country w/ another SIM is very useful. And that's only possible w/o the contract discount. |
| 16:54.25 | TuxToaster | I'm on a family plan, no corporate link |
| 16:54.47 | fungus | That capability does certainly have a value |
| 16:54.51 | mgeary | yes. i do wish i could just pop another SIM into my iPhone when i go to Europe |
| 16:55.06 | fungus | I just don't think that value is worth ~$400 |
| 16:55.08 | mgeary | AT&T has to unlock my phone now, so i can do that, don't they? Anyone been through that? |
| 16:55.49 | fungus | mgeary, it can be difficult to get ATT to unlock your phone. They can only consider it after the contract is completely lapsed, and it might take some severe shouting matches. |
| 16:56.53 | mgeary | well, there's no way in !$!@# that i'm paying for their international plan. Maybe i can rally myself up for some shouting, but my contract has a long ways to go yet, so that may be futile |
| 16:57.18 | mgeary | will they unlock an old phone, if you upgrade? |
| 16:57.31 | mgeary | that seems like it would be reasonable... |
| 16:57.36 | fungus | I think so, but last time I tried to get one unlocked it was painful. |
| 16:57.57 | supernovia | ninnypants: you around? |
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| 17:00.06 | fungus | mgeary, there are some semi-shady websites that will sell you unlock codes for phones for a price. |
| 17:00.21 | fungus | I had to do that once too, for an old Blackberry |
| 17:00.43 | supernovia | o hey ninnypan_ - are you here/ |
| 17:01.03 | ninnypan_ | hey supernovia |
| 17:01.17 | supernovia | I might have just figured this out actually |
| 17:02.03 | fungus | oh yeah, forgot about the meeting. Too busy playing w/ my new Raspberry Pi |
| 17:02.14 | supernovia | $pdf->MultiCell(86, 13,ucwords(stripslashes($attendees[$i]['first_name'])),0,'R'); |
| 17:02.18 | herlo | fungus: you like it? I just got one the other day |
| 17:02.24 | supernovia | if I wanted to add the last name column to that too ... |
| 17:02.44 | fungus | lol, it's fun. Got XBMC running on mine. Though the Airplay was a little finicky. |
| 17:02.57 | herlo | Airplay? |
| 17:03.09 | herlo | is that some Mac thing? |
| 17:03.14 | fungus | Apple's protocol to stream from iOS devices. |
| 17:03.16 | fungus | yeah |
| 17:03.19 | herlo | ahh |
| 17:04.00 | fungus | I just used my TV for the monitor. |
| 17:04.09 | fungus | worked great. |
| 17:04.51 | herlo | fungus: yeah, I've considered that. |
| 17:05.19 | herlo | but then I'd be stuck downstairs next to my tv when my office is upstairs and away from my lappy (though I guess I could bring that downstairs) |
| 17:05.47 | fungus | Just plug in a network connection and go headless. |
| 17:06.14 | fungus | unless you want a monitor, too many options. :) |
| 17:06.24 | herlo | fungus: yeah, no wired network up here |
| 17:08.06 | fungus | ahh, loss of geek points for herlo ;) |
| 17:08.14 | herlo | fungus: heh, it's a rental |
| 17:08.24 | herlo | my other place is wired to the gills |
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| 17:08.29 | fungus | ok, you are forgiven |
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| 17:08.47 | herlo | at least two network connections in every room and 4 in the living room alone. |
| 17:09.38 | fungus | I have one wired in my living room, the rest of my lv room devices are all wifi. |
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| 17:10.10 | fungus | My house is old and wiring is hard. |
| 17:10.54 | fungus | I need a fast SD card. All I have are slow-ass microSD cards w/ my adapter. |
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| 17:14.44 | herlo | fungus: yeah, I just ran mine under carpet and along baseboards. |
| 17:22.38 | TuxToaster | so far I only have a bundle of four going up to my living room, technically 3 since one goes through the wall into the kitchen |
| 17:23.39 | mindjuju | so does |
| 17:23.49 | mindjuju | $ set EXAMPLE=123 |
| 17:24.00 | mindjuju | isn't that suppose to set an envirmental variable |
| 17:24.23 | herlo | mindjuju: you don't need set |
| 17:24.39 | herlo | just |
| 17:24.40 | mindjuju | orly? so just EXAMPLE=123 |
| 17:24.46 | herlo | $ EXAMPLE=333 |
| 17:24.51 | mindjuju | k, thx |
| 17:24.52 | herlo | $ echo ${EXAMPLE} |
| 17:24.55 | herlo | 333 |
| 17:25.28 | mindjuju | thx herlo |
| 17:25.28 | herlo | mindjuju: btw, the {} around the variable are optional, but highly recommended |
| 17:25.42 | macnewbold | i went wifi in my house. which is sad, cause all the walls already had rj45 jacks in them, with cables attached, |
| 17:25.57 | macnewbold | but never have been able to find where the cables lead, in 5 years in the house |
| 17:25.58 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: also, you can set a variable only for a specific command/script |
| 17:26.10 | herlo | macnewbold: well, wifi gets you 90% of the way there. It's only when you have a server or something you need to hook up. |
| 17:26.24 | macnewbold | herlo: you don't have wifi in your servers?! |
| 17:26.32 | macnewbold | ;-p |
| 17:26.33 | TuxToaster | so if you do EXAMPLE=444 someAwesomeScript.sh that will cause the script to see EXAMPLE as 444, but it will return to whatever value it was before after the script runs |
| 17:26.34 | captbrogers | ~ninnypants++ |
| 17:26.36 | herlo | I've found that smart houses have two basic places for rj-45. In the basement storage and near the entertainment center. |
| 17:26.40 | herlo | macnewbold: haha, nowai! |
| 17:26.46 | SunSparc | macnewbold: lol |
| 17:27.02 | macnewbold | yeah, i don't run servers from home much really |
| 17:27.16 | macnewbold | though i probably will run some kinds of services other than ssh/smb when i get a mac mini at home |
| 17:27.21 | mindjuju | i was just reading yesterday a blurb about using pfsense as a wifi acces point |
| 17:27.34 | mindjuju | didn't make it through the whole article because itwas late, but looked interesting |
| 17:27.37 | TuxToaster | I've got a 24 port switch in my utility room waiting to be wired to the house, which has a couple of gbic connectors that will likely uplink to another switch in my server cabinet |
| 17:27.50 | TuxToaster | a bit overkill, probably, but fun. |
| 17:28.57 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: It all depends on what you are doing. For someone who loves playing with hardware, a 24 port switch is a good thing. |
| 17:29.40 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
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| 17:30.08 | TuxToaster | I could probably justify putting in a bigger true Cisco switch, but this one was free. |
| 17:30.20 | TuxToaster | and it supports a subset of IOS, kinda. so it's still decent. |
| 17:30.58 | SunSparc | A switch running a subset of iOS? |
| 17:31.08 | captbrogers | Hey tierra, you may want to fork my plugin again. I did some heavy updates this week |
| 17:31.28 | SunSparc | ~fork captbrogers |
| 17:31.28 | ibot | ACTION creates an identical captbrogers, but with a different id |
| 17:32.04 | captbrogers | Noo...this will turn out just like multiplicity |
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| 17:32.16 | captbrogers | I will get successively dumber clones of myself! |
| 17:32.18 | TuxToaster | it's one of the switches that came out after Cisco acquired Linksys, but before they started dumbing down, so it's got a limited console that you can break out of and runs a command line interface that's similar to IOS |
| 17:32.25 | SunSparc | captbrogers: lol |
| 17:32.46 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: interesting |
| 17:32.52 | TuxToaster | though it's not a true Cisco firmware, so some stuff is limited, but I prefer it over a Linksys web UI any day |
| 17:33.42 | TuxToaster | though I admit the advent of Wifi saddens me for some of that... I used to picture how much fun it would be when I have to ground my kid from using a computer or something that I could just hop in to a managed switch and disable the ports in his room. |
| 17:34.24 | TuxToaster | granted, I can still kill access to the wifi as well, but it's not quite as satisfying. |
| 17:34.37 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Yeah, I envisioned my dream house having Cat6 running to every room. |
| 17:35.46 | TuxToaster | yup. I still wouldn't mind doing that, but not sure how to pull it off gracefully with some of the walls |
| 17:36.17 | TuxToaster | ideally I'd love to have had channels run that I could pull cable through, so that when cat6 is replaced by cat20 or something I could replace it easily |
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| 17:48.40 | SunSparc | I imagine fiber becoming the cabling of choice for consumers in the near future. |
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| 17:52.06 | TuxToaster | if they can find a way to make it less fragile maybe |
| 17:53.31 | skinner1 | I'm going to be wiring my house with cat6 in a month or so, any reason to include RJ11 with my RJ45's'? |
| 17:53.45 | skinner1 | Anyone use telephone lines still? |
| 17:53.58 | mindjuju | sure, why not? |
| 17:54.19 | mindjuju | even if you don't have service, by law, they have to provide 911 support, keep a hardwired phone in the house |
| 17:54.31 | mindjuju | good for emergencies |
| 17:58.57 | fungus | skinner1, no, skip the RJ11 |
| 17:59.16 | fungus | If you need to wire phone over it. You can plug in RJ11 plugs into an RJ45 jack |
| 18:01.00 | skinner1 | well here's the thing, my house has rj11 already in it. But it was wired daisy-chained style. and most of the ports don't work. I guess I'm trying to determine if it's worth it to fix em |
| 18:02.22 | fungus | If you are going to wire your whole house, skip screwing with the existing wiring, and pull new runs everywhere you want/need then |
| 18:02.53 | mindjuju | that's what i did |
| 18:02.53 | fungus | That way, if you need a phone line there, you can. If you want to reuse it for network you can. |
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| 18:12.40 | tierra | agreed with fungus |
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| 18:13.06 | tierra | captbrogers: I just forked it in the last couple days |
| 18:13.52 | tierra | oh, you don't have any rebased commits... you just meant "update from upstream" |
| 18:14.02 | tierra | yeah, I'll definitely be doing that |
| 18:14.08 | herlo | fungus: agreed! new runs are way easier to deal with. You know how it is supposed to work. |
| 18:14.50 | tierra | captbrogers: should be easy, I only added a new tests folder and .travis.yml... no code changes in your files :) |
| 18:16.31 | tierra | captbrogers: also, not that I have extensive tests done (doing those today, heh), but: http://travis-ci.org/#!/tierra/WP-Slider-Captcha |
| 18:16.52 | tierra | ^ ignore the 3 failed builds - they're all Travis-related problems |
| 18:17.58 | tierra | but there's your plugin tested in 11 minutes on 24 different configurations between PHP 5.2/5.3/5.4, WP trunk/3.4/3.3/3.2, and non-multisite/multisite :) |
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| 18:33.51 | macnewbold | ~seen jsmith |
| 18:34.00 | ibot | jsmith is currently on #asterisk-doc #fredlug #asterisk-dev #utah #uphpu. Has said a total of 37 messages. Is idling for 4h 45m 49s, last said: 'Trying to get them turned off on the phone, since I'd have to rebuild Asterisk to turn them off there'. |
| 18:34.11 | macnewbold | 4 hours. doh. |
| 18:36.49 | captbrogers | ~seen macnewbold |
| 18:36.50 | ibot | macnewbold is currently on #utah (3h 17m 55s) #uphpu (3h 17m 55s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 2m 39s, last said: '4 hours. doh.'. |
| 18:37.01 | captbrogers | ~seen ibot |
| 18:37.02 | ibot | ibot is currently on #gsoc (2d 21h 31m 12s) #bzflag (2d 21h 31m 12s) #gooseproject (2d 21h 31m 12s) ##bspress (2d 21h 31m 12s) #brlcad (2d 21h 31m 12s) #cubieboard (2d 21h 31m 12s) #handhelds (2d 21h 31m 12s) #utah (2d 21h 31m 12s) #oe (2d 21h 31m 12s) #zaurus (2d 21h 31m 12s) #gllug (2d 21h 31m 12s) #pillbox (2d 21h 31m 12s) #arm-netbook (2d 21h 31m ... |
| 18:37.03 | macnewbold | captbrogers: hi |
| 18:37.32 | captbrogers | Just testing it out |
| 18:37.47 | captbrogers | $rlart skinner1 |
| 18:37.47 | raifbot | pushes the wall down onto romanovic whilst whistling innocently. |
| 18:38.41 | captbrogers | ~lart skinner1 |
| 18:38.41 | ibot | resizes skinner1's terminal to 40x24 |
| 18:38.51 | skinner1 | es so small |
| 18:39.32 | captbrogers | That's a little larger than most phones. That is tiny |
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| 19:17.36 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 19:17.36 | raifbot | slaps jnbek upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh. |
| 19:18.02 | jnbek | seriously? wtc did hugh do to deserve that?!?! |
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| 19:47.36 | tierra | macnewbold: he's at the office today, I'm headed over to see him in another hour here |
| 19:50.08 | clintberry1 | jsmith is an asterisk guy? I am getting heavily involved in freeswitch. I would love to talk with him sometime |
| 19:50.12 | clintberry1 | anyone know where he works? |
| 19:52.21 | stderr- | Red Hat |
| 19:52.42 | mindjuju | he was the fedora project leader, he now works for blue host |
| 19:52.48 | mindjuju | before that he worked for digum |
| 19:53.07 | mindjuju | i'm just happy to call him friend |
| 19:53.27 | stderr- | oh he switched to Blue Host now? |
| 19:53.41 | mindjuju | yeah, he leads their OSS efforts |
| 19:54.01 | stderr- | cool |
| 19:54.05 | mindjuju | he still lives in Virginia and gets paid to travel all over |
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| 20:05.10 | macnewbold | tierra: I got it working |
| 20:05.42 | macnewbold | i was talking to a support tech there that couldn't get an ssl to work right. turns out it was fine all along but was "failing verification" |
| 20:06.07 | macnewbold | cause they were expecting https://somedomain.com to work when the cert was for www.somedomain.com |
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| 20:30.24 | tierra | $ git rebase captbrogers/master |
| 20:30.32 | tierra | $ git push -f |
| 20:31.05 | tierra | I remember what a pain in the neck doing something like that used to be back in the days of CVS :) |
| 20:32.00 | tierra | still a pain in Subversion too I guess |
| 20:32.59 | tierra | I feel a little bad for anyone that forks my repos... I tend to rebase a lot as opposed to merging |
| 20:33.16 | tierra | I like cleaner upstream trees |
| 20:54.34 | jsmith | clintberry1: I'm back -- you have Asterisk questions? Or just want to compare telephony scars? |
| 20:54.55 | jsmith | clintberry1: Gotta change networks... back in a few minutes |
| 20:54.56 | clintberry1 | jsmith: I am curious what you are working on in the telephony world |
| 20:54.58 | ninnypants | http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193844/Hotmail_Your_password_was_too_long_so_we_fixed_it_for_you |
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| 21:06.13 | clintberry1 | jsmith: I only ask because I just got hired at a startup doing telephony stuff. It has been a blast. I'm curious what else is going on in this market |
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| 21:14.53 | jsmith | clintberry: Cool... I'm actually looking to hire another full-time telephony engineer |
| 21:15.53 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju_: http://djschmolli.com/2012/09/14/1669/ |
| 21:22.26 | macnewbold | DtD: cool! thanks |
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| 21:27.25 | clintberry | jsmith: Hopefully I get qualified here enough to take a job like that in the future. Although we are all freeswitch guys |
| 21:34.44 | jsmith | clintberry: That's fine... the concepts are same, even if the tools are slightly different |
| 21:46.09 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Pb6PF8LXA |
| 21:47.58 | SunSparc | ~friday |
| 21:49.30 | clondon | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.51 | SunSparc | ~friday clondon's boss |
| 21:49.51 | ibot | ACTION locks clondon's boss in Friday forever, Groundhog's Day style |
| 21:49.56 | clondon | haha |
| 21:50.09 | clondon | wps: they're calling out ~friday |
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| 22:10.46 | herlo | long Friday |
| 22:10.55 | herlo | but at least it's Friday |
| 22:10.57 | herlo | ~friday |
| 22:11.04 | herlo | $friday |
| 22:11.14 | herlo | ibot: friday |
| 22:11.18 | herlo | boo |
| 22:14.22 | SunSparc | ~friday herlo |
| 22:14.22 | ibot | ACTION locks herlo in Friday forever, Groundhog's Day style |
| 22:14.58 | SunSparc | ibot: friday is the most exciting day of the week |
| 22:14.58 | ibot | ACTION locks is the most exciting day of the week in Friday forever, Groundhog's Day style |
| 22:15.05 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:17.10 | herlo | heh |
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| 22:22.11 | ninnypants | herlo: if I need to send header with a request should I use httplib or urllib in python I don't really see a way to do so in urllib |
| 22:22.21 | PoeticIntensity | So yo.... |
| 22:22.25 | PoeticIntensity | How the heck are ya'll? |
| 22:22.29 | PoeticIntensity | It's been awhile... :) |
| 22:22.48 | herlo | ninnypants: I would say httplib |
| 22:23.02 | herlo | and never, ever should you use urllib (though urllib2 is nice) :) |
| 22:23.43 | PoeticIntensity | That's an awesome video, DexterTheDragon ! |
| 22:23.47 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... "mouth cam" |
| 22:23.49 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: greetings |
| 22:23.51 | ninnypants | herlo: ok docs said that httplib isn't usually used directly so I wasn't sure |
| 22:23.55 | Utah_Dave | ninnypants: or use Requests, it's so nice compared to any of the python urllibs |
| 22:24.08 | PoeticIntensity | I'm having a problem with my server that has me perplexed.... |
| 22:24.10 | herlo | Utah_Dave: yeah, I was going to say |
| 22:24.20 | herlo | ninnypants: also you might want to join #utahpython |
| 22:24.20 | ninnypants | ok I think I've heard of that library |
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| 22:25.04 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah figured I'd need to just playing in the console for a few so I didn't bother |
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| 22:25.19 | PoeticIntensity | sup, SunSparc ? |
| 22:25.38 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: just programming. :) What is your server problem? |
| 22:25.47 | PoeticIntensity | okay.... |
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| 22:26.04 | PoeticIntensity | so... .... how do I explain... |
| 22:26.37 | PoeticIntensity | I can't seem to load anything on http from my server from within the server itself... |
| 22:26.39 | ninnypants | SunSparc: what's the front end project you need done? |
| 22:27.08 | mindjuju_ | is said server a winders server? |
| 22:27.16 | herlo | ninnypants: they are a great bunch of guys over there. Many of them are in this channel too, like Utah_Dave |
| 22:27.31 | herlo | haha |
| 22:27.37 | herlo | lol |
| 22:27.38 | herlo | and such |
| 22:27.42 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Many different projects. :) Good front-end devs are hard to come by these days. |
| 22:27.50 | mindjuju_ | Utah_Dave? great? |
| 22:27.56 | mindjuju_ | he's fantastic! |
| 22:28.03 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah I know Travis and amjith(if he's still in there) |
| 22:28.11 | PoeticIntensity | we're trying to set up a feed to be read in from itself.... and it's like apache doesn't even know it exists. |
| 22:28.27 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: How are you trying to load http from on the server? |
| 22:29.05 | mindjuju_ | wget localhost ? |
| 22:29.43 | PoeticIntensity | from within the code, we're loading an RSS feed. |
| 22:29.59 | PoeticIntensity | it has me dumbfounded... |
| 22:30.15 | PoeticIntensity | it just times out, like apache has no idea it's supposed to be doing anything.. |
| 22:30.18 | PoeticIntensity | YET.... |
| 22:30.23 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: how are you loading it? curl, wget, fopen? |
| 22:30.27 | PoeticIntensity | when we try to load the same rss feed from anywhere externally, it works just fine. |
| 22:30.34 | PoeticIntensity | cake's XML class. |
| 22:30.41 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, ^^^ |
| 22:30.53 | SunSparc | So the same code on another machine works? |
| 22:31.44 | PoeticIntensity | nope... |
| 22:32.00 | PoeticIntensity | pulling the RSS feed from any machine outside of the server works... |
| 22:32.04 | ninnypants | SunSparc: I think he means from a browser |
| 22:32.09 | PoeticIntensity | pulling the RSS feed from within the same server, doesn't work at all. |
| 22:32.25 | PoeticIntensity | for example.... |
| 22:32.44 | PoeticIntensity | on the server, I do this: links2 http://www.example.com |
| 22:32.51 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Ah |
| 22:32.53 | PoeticIntensity | and it just hangs there... no response at all. |
| 22:33.12 | PoeticIntensity | if I do "links2 http://example.com" from anywhere else on the Internet, it works just fine. |
| 22:33.32 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: Have you made sure it is not a DNS issue? |
| 22:33.36 | fungus | PI, is www.example.com in your hosts file? |
| 22:33.39 | SunSparc | hosts file perhaps |
| 22:33.45 | PoeticIntensity | yup... it's in the hosts. |
| 22:33.50 | fungus | is it pointed to locahost? |
| 22:34.06 | fungus | Is your web server not serving up on localhost? |
| 22:34.09 | PoeticIntensity | tried it resolving to 127.0.0.1, as well as the internal NATted address, as well as the external IP address. |
| 22:34.28 | PoeticIntensity | yes... fungus, if I try "localhost" on the same server, it works just fine. |
| 22:34.30 | fungus | Firewall rules? |
| 22:34.33 | PoeticIntensity | same as 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:34.37 | PoeticIntensity | I turned iptables completely off. |
| 22:34.40 | PoeticIntensity | (same result) |
| 22:35.04 | fungus | Does it hang forever or does it eventually timeout? |
| 22:35.06 | PoeticIntensity | (we even took a trip to fibernet and uplugged the firewall / router, and plugged directly into the Internet, and got the same results) |
| 22:35.14 | PoeticIntensity | it eventually times out. |
| 22:35.28 | fungus | Does your logging do reverse DNS lookups? |
| 22:35.46 | fungus | hmm, that would still return a page though... |
| 22:35.46 | PoeticIntensity | and in the logs, it says that it reached the 30 second max time, in PHP, I believe. |
| 22:36.04 | fungus | ah, so it's an application level problem. |
| 22:36.05 | PoeticIntensity | that's a great point, fungus... |
| 22:36.08 | PoeticIntensity | I believe so... |
| 22:36.09 | fungus | not a web server issue. |
| 22:36.19 | PoeticIntensity | it does time out, for sure... at 30 seconds, each time... |
| 22:36.28 | PoeticIntensity | Yes...... I remember now |
| 22:36.35 | fungus | If it's a PHP timeout, then it's in your PHP code. |
| 22:36.38 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 22:37.02 | PoeticIntensity | one sec... |
| 22:37.30 | fungus | Probably behaves differently (possibly wrong) based on remote address. |
| 22:38.30 | PoeticIntensity | okay... I just tried it again, and waited..... |
| 22:38.38 | PoeticIntensity | I'm averaging 54 *bytes* per second.... |
| 22:38.52 | PoeticIntensity | it eventually loads, but is crazy slow... |
| 22:39.03 | PoeticIntensity | (again, this happens *only* from within the server itself) |
| 22:39.10 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: tor? |
| 22:39.16 | herlo | 8-D |
| 22:40.06 | SunSparc | heh |
| 22:40.15 | mindjuju_ | yeah, stop the torrentz and try again |
| 22:40.46 | mgeary | anyone here done a lot of html5 canvas image operations? |
| 22:41.09 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 22:41.09 | raifbot | follow's mindjuju_ with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION. |
| 22:41.28 | PoeticIntensity | argh... |
| 22:41.33 | PoeticIntensity | heh... tor... yeah... |
| 22:41.50 | mgeary | herlo: do you know of a way to clone a given canvas context, but only copy over pixels of color <foo> into a new image? without having to go pixel by pixel? |
| 22:42.07 | mgeary | i'm pretty sure there is with some sort of filter approach, but i'm just starting that research |
| 22:42.22 | herlo | mgeary: I guess you misunderstood my statement |
| 22:42.30 | herlo | I have used them, never worked with them |
| 22:42.33 | mgeary | psh |
| 22:42.35 | herlo | sorry |
| 22:42.49 | mgeary | globalCompositeOperation seems to be the trick |
| 22:42.51 | herlo | I know you are a working stiff on friday at 4:42pm, but still |
| 22:43.00 | herlo | it was worth a shot |
| 22:43.02 | PoeticIntensity | the plot thickens... |
| 22:43.17 | PoeticIntensity | so... I just tried loading a static image from within the server... |
| 22:43.42 | PoeticIntensity | and, after 20 seconds or so, it started loading the image, at about 25 bytes per second. |
| 22:44.05 | PoeticIntensity | it received 4.0K (after about a minute), and then stopped loading. |
| 22:44.06 | PoeticIntensity | no error. |
| 22:44.22 | SunSparc | massive internal looping problem? |
| 22:44.33 | PoeticIntensity | makes sense... |
| 22:49.00 | PoeticIntensity | okay... thickens even more... |
| 22:52.23 | PoeticIntensity | when I try to load the RSS feed... while it's thinking, I just noticed that the process takes up 100% of the CPU cycles. |
| 22:52.37 | PoeticIntensity | (giving creedence to SunSparc's infinite loop theory) |
| 22:53.44 | SunSparc | The CPU spiking seems to confirm it though. |
| 22:54.09 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 22:54.10 | SunSparc | Makes me think again of DNS. Hmmm.. |
| 22:54.37 | PoeticIntensity | I put the domain straight into the hosts file, and if I remember correctly, that bypasses all DNS... |
| 22:54.42 | PoeticIntensity | and it still craps out on me. |
| 22:55.45 | SunSparc | Makes me want to do a programmatic step through of exactly what it is doing. |
| 22:56.44 | SunSparc | Maybe throw a bunch of echos/prints in the code to see what it is doing. Seems like the problem is not necessarily in the code though, but in the server config. |
| 22:57.13 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 22:57.13 | raifbot | pours gasoline all over fungus, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze. |
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| 23:03.27 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: sorry, gotta finish some code |
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| 23:05.51 | PoeticIntensity | no worries.... thanks for your help this far, SunSparc |
| 23:06.43 | SunSparc | np :) |
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| 23:23.24 | PoeticIntensity | Yo fungus / SunSparc - I just created a HTML text file, which should bypass PHP completely, and it still exhibited the same behavior. |
| 23:23.38 | PoeticIntensity | argh... I thought I was getting closer with the PHP error, but it seems that apache is doing the same thing. |
| 23:23.47 | SunSparc | Definitely server config. |
| 23:24.28 | PoeticIntensity | I've never seen anything like this before... |
| 23:24.57 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: So you just have plain jane HTML and try to load it via cli browser and it still hangs? |
| 23:25.32 | PoeticIntensity | yup.... hangs for about 10-15 seconds, and then starts loading it at around 50 bytes per second. |
| 23:25.56 | PoeticIntensity | it loads up to 4.0K, and then stops completely. |
| 23:26.30 | SunSparc | Probably hits a buffer overrun |
| 23:26.37 | SunSparc | Nothing in the apache logs? |
| 23:28.26 | PoeticIntensity | it's a very active server..... |
| 23:28.35 | PoeticIntensity | logs are running by quite quickly... |
| 23:28.46 | PoeticIntensity | I'll see if I can't isolate anything from localhost |
| 23:30.52 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: Is this a live machine? |
| 23:31.49 | PoeticIntensity | oh yes... |
| 23:31.56 | PoeticIntensity | it serves up just fine to everyone else in the world. |
| 23:32.03 | PoeticIntensity | it's serving up blendtec.com right now. |
| 23:32.16 | PoeticIntensity | gets average of 10,000 visitors per day. |
| 23:32.20 | PoeticIntensity | no problem... |
| 23:32.35 | PoeticIntensity | UNLESS, of course, you want to request something from itself. In that case, NO DEAL. |
| 23:32.36 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 23:32.49 | SunSparc | Would it be possible to do try to duplicate the problem on a test server? |
| 23:34.24 | PoeticIntensity | yup. I thought of that, and we have a test server ready to go.... The problem is, right now, we don't have any domains that point to it. |
| 23:34.37 | PoeticIntensity | all localhost / 127.0.0.1 stuff works like a charm.... |
| 23:34.47 | PoeticIntensity | But try any domains, and you're screwed. |
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| 23:37.46 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: Any test server that is identical to the live server? |
| 23:39.50 | SunSparc | Just trying to think of some way to isolate the problem withoug affect live or having live traffic interfere. |
| 23:42.01 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... |
| 23:42.29 | PoeticIntensity | we've got subdomains that are identical (same machine) |
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