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| 13:59.04 | captbrogers | Anyone interested in getting a XEN VPS (4 cores, 1GB dedicated RAM, 50GB disk, 2TB bandwidth, 1GB uplink, $22.95) at 15% off and your choice of doule RAM/disk/CPU/bandwidth? |
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| 14:28.14 | mindjuju__ | interesting offer captbrogers, where is this at? |
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| 14:28.53 | captbrogers | vps6.net |
| 14:29.12 | captbrogers | Been with them a few months, not bad |
| 14:32.13 | mindjuju__ | man, can't believe it is tuesday already |
| 14:32.30 | mindjuju__ | pretty soon it'll be wednesday (hump day) then it's downhill to friday |
| 14:35.43 | eggyknap | it's all those kids |
| 14:36.04 | mindjuju__ | we just have the one :) |
| 14:36.13 | eggyknap | That's all it takes. :) |
| 14:36.31 | eggyknap | I have four. The first was the biggest adjustment... :) |
| 14:37.16 | mindjuju__ | i have heard that you can sometimes get the older kids to mind the younger kids |
| 14:37.49 | captbrogers | Yeah, but sometimes the 4 year old thinks she can take care of the 6 month old |
| 14:37.53 | eggyknap | my oldest just turned 8. We're still awaiting the "Hey, kid ... come babysit" days with no small impatience. |
| 14:38.36 | eggyknap | Our neighbors adopted three siblings out of foster care. The kids' druggie biological parents would leave them alone for hours in the care of the oldest, who was five. |
| 14:38.51 | mindjuju__ | wow |
| 14:49.04 | Lone_Wanderer | eggyknap - how emotionally damaged are they? do you think they'll be able to grow up and be ok? |
| 14:49.21 | Lone_Wanderer | (My sister adopted kids from the Ukraine and it appears that they're so far gone they'll never be able to lead normal lives.) |
| 14:49.54 | eggyknap | They seem to be doing really well. They've been with their family for three years now, and seem to have only normal little-kid oddities. |
| 14:50.16 | captbrogers | Lone_Wanderer: That always saddens me, hearing about kids that are adopted but you know they won't be 100% because of things they had to deal with |
| 14:50.17 | Lone_Wanderer | Ah, good. |
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| 15:01.57 | josephscott | do we have a topic this week? |
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| 15:04.21 | captbrogers | Yes |
| 15:05.03 | captbrogers | Need a new VPS? Use the code MIAMI-09 to get 15% off and double RAM/Disk/CPU/Bandwidth |
| 15:05.41 | mindjuju__ | the vps is the topic? |
| 15:06.12 | captbrogers | Yes, I need someone else to sign up so that I can validate that I have made the correct decision |
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| 15:08.51 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Ask captbrogers about a VPS |
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| 15:10.14 | captbrogers | http://bit.ly/M8FKFh |
| 15:11.13 | ninnypants | so who here builds hardware? |
| 15:11.47 | mindjuju | like actually builds hardware, like an EE? |
| 15:12.27 | jsmith | mindjuju: Not all EEs here actually build hardware :-p |
| 15:13.09 | ninnypants | mindjuju: basically just hardware hacking with things like arduino |
| 15:13.22 | captbrogers | jsmith: You going to be here this weekend for WordCamp? |
| 15:13.35 | jsmith | captbrogers: Guilty as charged -- I'm speaking :-) |
| 15:13.38 | mindjuju | word camp is this weekend? |
| 15:13.45 | captbrogers | Yep |
| 15:13.49 | jsmith | mindjuju: Yeah, you want me to bring you some Popeye's? |
| 15:14.26 | mindjuju | will it make it past the TSA checkpoint? i mean there is spicy on the drumstick and you could easily wield that as a weapon |
| 15:14.41 | jsmith | Does it look like a liquid, gel, or aerosol to you? |
| 15:14.52 | ninnypants | jsmith: it's a hidden shiv |
| 15:14.54 | captbrogers | Mmmmmm...aerosol chicken |
| 15:15.06 | jsmith | mindjuju: I'm not worried about getting it past the checkpoint -- I'm worried about the smell making me a target on the plane! |
| 15:15.09 | mindjuju | well, you could poke somebody in the eye with a spicy chicken |
| 15:15.25 | mindjuju | i'd love some actually |
| 15:15.54 | jsmith | mindjuju: I'll see what I can do... it's an early flight, so I might have to buy it the night before and freeze it |
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| 15:18.02 | ninnypants | I was wondering what the best choice for an arduino would be this one makes sense to me since it comes with the bread board and wires http://www.amazon.com/Arduino-Uno-Starter---Solderless-Breadboard/dp/B0051QHPJM/ |
| 15:18.28 | jsmith | ninnypants: It's a good starter board, definitely |
| 15:18.57 | ninnypants | but there's also this larger one so I was wondering if it would be better to get it and just pick up the bread board and wires on my own http://www.amazon.com/Arduino-Mega-MEGA-2560-Board/dp/B004A7H3DG/ |
| 15:19.39 | mindjuju | captbrogers - http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qys97/ |
| 15:20.10 | jsmith | ninnypants: If you're just getting started, the Uno will probably be just fine for you |
| 15:20.19 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I like the "it its" part |
| 15:20.30 | ninnypants | jsmith: yeah that's what I figured |
| 15:20.39 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 15:21.12 | mindjuju | i can't believe i fumbled right at the touchdown |
| 15:21.49 | ninnypants | jsmith: anything else you'd recommend having when just starting out? |
| 15:22.38 | jsmith | ninnypants: Patience, a good refresher course on pull-up and pull-down resistors, and a good industrial power supply :-p |
| 15:23.21 | mindjuju | 8 piece box of popeyes always helps in any build |
| 15:23.32 | herlo | mindjuju: speaking of popeyes |
| 15:23.44 | mindjuju | when does the slc popeyes open? |
| 15:23.47 | herlo | I heard they are putting one in the SLC International airport |
| 15:23.58 | mindjuju | all the way down there? |
| 15:24.09 | herlo | mindjuju: behind security |
| 15:24.11 | mindjuju | wth? let me guess, behind the security checkpoint |
| 15:24.16 | herlo | lol |
| 15:24.36 | herlo | mindjuju: just fly more |
| 15:24.39 | mindjuju | that's just as good as putting it behind a billion men with guns at Hill AFB |
| 15:24.56 | ninnypants | jsmith: all stuff I'm sure I'll need :) What about something like a multimeter? Would that be useful now or not until I'm actually soldering things together? |
| 15:25.32 | jsmith | ninnypants: Of course, a multimeter is definitely required |
| 15:25.38 | jsmith | ninnypants: (sooner or later, that is) |
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| 15:27.08 | ninnypants | jsmith: I'll pick one up then would probably be a good thing to have around the house anyway |
| 15:27.27 | jsmith | Aye... |
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| 15:41.00 | captbrogers | $chuck-fact |
| 15:41.00 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs. |
| 15:47.41 | ninnypants | did anyone ever get a raspberry pi? |
| 15:47.49 | captbrogers | My brother-in-law did |
| 15:48.00 | captbrogers | Seemed kind of cool, but not something that I'd use |
| 15:48.41 | ninnypants | seemed like it could be a nice little media device for your tv |
| 15:49.06 | captbrogers | If I got one I'd need a NAS |
| 15:50.54 | mindjuju | or a p3 with 2 SATA cards, some phat drives and a decent network card |
| 15:51.10 | Utah_Dave | I bought one for a buddy. It is freakishly small |
| 15:51.11 | mindjuju | oh and an ubuntu install cd |
| 15:51.29 | Utah_Dave | I knew it was going to be really small, but it was still surprising how small it was |
| 15:52.02 | ninnypants | yeah it's crazy that it's the same size as a credit card |
| 15:53.16 | mindjuju | i want to buy one to turn into a remote temp gage |
| 15:53.47 | jsmith | ninnypants: I've got two of them... |
| 15:53.52 | jsmith | ninnypants: They're great! |
| 15:54.39 | ninnypants | I thought about seeing if they'd work with a webcam so I could set up some cheap security cams for my mother inlaw |
| 15:55.12 | mindjuju | that reminds me of our baby monitor for Corban |
| 15:55.44 | mindjuju | 10yr old vid camera with nightvision a short RCA cable (AV) and about 30ft of stero cable |
| 15:55.57 | ninnypants | mindjuju: nice |
| 15:56.21 | mindjuju | splice in stero cable into the AV cable (saves from spending big $$ for a cable) and just hook it into the master bedroom TV |
| 15:56.30 | mindjuju | then when jr gets rowdy, change chan and see what he's doing |
| 16:04.15 | fungus | mindjuju, how about a DV camera and a raspberry pi to stream your video to your phone/tablet? |
| 16:05.24 | mindjuju | soudns like fun :) |
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| 16:49.58 | josephscott | I ran into a strange python quirk recently |
| 16:51.15 | josephscott | it can change the scope of a variable on the fly inside of a function |
| 16:51.23 | josephscott | which I did not expect |
| 16:52.31 | captbrogers | Nobody expected the Spanish Inqui....nevermind, wrong place. |
| 16:54.03 | josephscott | that triggered a bug that took way too long to track down, though it did open me up to some of the strange Python scope items |
| 17:01.00 | josePHPagoda | captbrogers: the spanish did. |
| 17:04.20 | mahelious | I LOVE co-workers that think an email is an invitation to come chat with me for 15 minutes! |
| 17:04.39 | mahelious | it's not a waste of my time at all. |
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| 17:06.06 | captbrogers | Hey mahelious, what are you doing? What are you up to? How are you feeling? Have you thought about switching VPS providers and let the good light of great hardware into your life? |
| 17:06.31 | mahelious | captbrogers: lol |
| 17:06.41 | mahelious | i heard about your legendary vps of legend |
| 17:07.09 | captbrogers | Legend tells of a legendary VPS who's legendary hardware specs were the stuff of legends! |
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| 17:26.10 | josephscott | just link to what ever VPS provider you are trying to push so that we can all move on :-) |
| 17:27.41 | captbrogers | vps6.net -> coupon code MIAMI-09 takes 15% off the monthly cost and gives you a choice of double RAM, disk, CPU, or bandwidth |
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| 17:32.38 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Meeting on Thursday & Wordcamp this Saturday! |
| 17:33.02 | captbrogers | josephscott, I need others to see that it is a good deal so I can validate my belief that I made the right choice |
| 17:33.56 | mindjuju | creepy salesman is creepy |
| 17:36.27 | captbrogers | Ask for a refund on that time |
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| 21:05.48 | *** topic/#UPHPU is Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Meeting on Thursday & Wordcamp this Saturday! |
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| 21:09.53 | ninnypants | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/18/us-microsoft-browser-idUSBRE88G1CA20120918 |
| 21:16.09 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Now THERE is a sensable government request. :) |
| 21:19.51 | mindjuju | ugh, i swear i'm getting to the point where i'm ready to start swinging |
| 21:19.58 | mindjuju | :( |
| 21:20.14 | SunSparc | Swapping wives? |
| 21:20.24 | mindjuju | well, not that swinging |
| 21:20.33 | SunSparc | Or the dancing kind of swing? |
| 21:20.49 | SunSparc | Or on the playground? |
| 21:21.01 | mindjuju | Devs pooch the production server, goofus thinks he knows systems telling me whats wrogn and writing a length email to prove it, to find out 10 min later, he's wrong |
| 21:21.03 | SunSparc | Oh, maybe like boxing! |
| 21:21.10 | mindjuju | grrrr... |
| 21:21.16 | mindjuju | too funny SunSparc |
| 21:21.49 | SunSparc | lol, so maybe the dev should let the sysadmin do the sysadmin job :) |
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| 21:22.36 | mindjuju | i should do what i started doing at my last job |
| 21:22.41 | mindjuju | fast jobs require a bribe |
| 21:22.50 | mindjuju | i've got 10 diff bottles of root beer on my desk |
| 21:22.55 | mindjuju | the cooler, the faster thejob is done |
| 21:35.26 | SunSparc | mindjuju: lol, nice idea, I say go for it. |
| 21:39.25 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: I did similar, but with chocolate |
| 21:39.41 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:39.41 | raifbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets jnbek|wc feel it. |
| 21:39.56 | mindjuju | choco sounds yummy |
| 21:40.02 | TuxToaster | $8ball did you bring ibot back? |
| 21:40.02 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Signs point to yes. |
| 21:40.26 | SunSparc | I would be good with old fashion greenbacks. |
| 21:40.31 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:41.25 | SunSparc | Then again, if someone were to slip me a plateful of fresh home baked cookies, they would get top priority. |
| 21:42.00 | SunSparc | And then when I was done with the cookies, the task of the cookie giver would get the priority. ;) |
| 21:42.02 | TuxToaster | http://www.jmcardle.com/?p=713 so these were the kinds of floppies I was talking about the other day |
| 21:42.08 | TuxToaster | that we'd get at the dollar store |
| 21:42.35 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 21:42.46 | SunSparc | Good old days. |
| 21:43.16 | TuxToaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Carnage |
| 21:43.23 | TuxToaster | one of my favs, but before they renamed it |
| 21:43.30 | TuxToaster | it was cheezy but it worked |
| 21:43.31 | mindjuju | you know, i specifically remember not calling those floppies as it seemed rude to the 5.25 disks, i called those 3 1/2 inch disks |
| 21:43.44 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 21:44.21 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:44.30 | SunSparc | Ever use an 8 inch? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Floppy_disk_2009_G1.jpg |
| 21:44.48 | SunSparc | I joined the computer revolution in the days of the 5.25 |
| 21:44.49 | mindjuju | you know SunSparc, i did work in an attorney's office and he had some |
| 21:44.59 | mindjuju | but i never had one hooked up to my personal comp |
| 21:45.26 | SunSparc | Heh, close enough. |
| 21:45.30 | TuxToaster | my favorite disk drives were always the 3.25s from the IIgs and Macs |
| 21:45.46 | mindjuju | but, that said, i was going to get a 8" for a mortar board when i grad college |
| 21:45.51 | TuxToaster | because I thought it was insane that PC's didn't have an electronic eject |
| 21:46.22 | SunSparc | PC's are always behind the times ;) |
| 21:46.39 | SunSparc | mindjuju: an 8" for a mortar board would have been cool |
| 21:46.51 | mindjuju | they still sell them on ebay |
| 21:47.01 | SunSparc | They sell anything on ebay. :) |
| 21:47.03 | TuxToaster | I don't think I've ever seen a PC with that style of eject |
| 21:47.08 | TuxToaster | there's a song for that.. |
| 21:47.31 | TuxToaster | Weird Al made a spoof of the Backstreet Boys' "I want it that way" but "I got it on eBay" |
| 21:47.54 | SunSparc | Leave it wo Weird Al. :) |
| 21:47.58 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 21:48.13 | TuxToaster | ~SunSparc SunSparc |
| 21:48.25 | TuxToaster | you need a verb. lol. |
| 21:48.44 | SunSparc | Yes, I was trying to think of a good one the other day. |
| 21:49.09 | SunSparc | ~fire jnbek|wc |
| 21:49.09 | ibot | ACTION cusses jnbek|wc out, "that's one screw-up too many, jnbek|wc!". ibot grabs jnbek|wc by the scruff of the neck and bodily heaves him out the window into a nearby dumpster. |
| 21:50.37 | jnbek|wc | d'oh!! |
| 21:52.06 | SunSparc | jnbek|wc: looks like you are being piped into the word counter |
| 21:52.34 | macnewbold | ~wc |
| 21:52.34 | ibot | wc is, like, a POSIX program to count words, lines and characters. In Debian GNU/Linux, the wc program is part of the GNU textutils. |
| 21:52.34 | jnbek|wc | ya, I guess I'll just take me lumps and go home ;-) |
| 21:52.40 | macnewbold | ~wc jnbek |
| 21:52.54 | jnbek|wc | |wc = work client |
| 21:53.12 | SunSparc | Ah |
| 22:01.04 | TuxToaster | jnbek|wc: doesn't seem to help much, though... raifbot picks on you with or without the |wc disguise |
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| 22:12.33 | macnewbold | ah - I could think of "word count", "water closet", but not "work client" |
| 22:14.44 | TuxToaster | I would have thought wordcamp even :P |
| 22:18.16 | macnewbold | so apropos this week, too |
| 22:18.31 | macnewbold | i'm sad i can't come to the meeting this week |
| 22:20.25 | macnewbold | but at least i get to go to word camp |
| 22:25.48 | mahelious | so all of this "intelligent automobile" talk about cars driving themselves and whatnot sounds awesome, until reality sets in. |
| 22:26.40 | mahelious | "I just ordered a new car from Japan, but its ASM only, so I can't drive it outside of Salt Lake County until next year." seems only too plausible |
| 22:26.42 | TuxToaster | lets just put it this way |
| 22:26.54 | TuxToaster | I've seen how Microsoft handles playing songs in my car |
| 22:27.00 | TuxToaster | I DO NOT want it driving my car. |
| 22:49.30 | ninnypants | from what I've seen on the google cars they do really well |
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