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| 15:15.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Man, quiet day. |
| 15:16.16 | captbrogers | Fine. I'll make a Gangnam Style ringtone so that everyone has something to talk about |
| 15:16.45 | mindjuju | oh that's what i forgot |
| 15:16.47 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 15:16.51 | mindjuju | i was going to show my wife that video |
| 15:17.31 | captbrogers | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9247780/gangnam%20ringtone.mp3 |
| 15:18.17 | Lone_Wanderer | I think I caught my roommate's PAX pox |
| 15:19.23 | mindjuju | i LOVE gangnam style vid |
| 15:19.38 | captbrogers | Now you can have the ringtone as well |
| 15:19.55 | mindjuju | i can't change my ringtone |
| 15:20.04 | captbrogers | Don't have a smart phone? |
| 15:20.26 | mindjuju | no, i just haven't found a ringtone that is as universally recognized as mine |
| 15:20.44 | captbrogers | I changed my to the imperial death march |
| 15:21.21 | mindjuju | maybe i'll find the soudn a dot matrix makes and use that |
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| 15:22.33 | mindjuju | captbrogers - https://dl.dropbox.com/u/65737/56K_Modem_handshake.mp3 |
| 15:23.43 | captbrogers | mindjuju: my text message tone: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9247780/phone%20sounds/sound%20effects/navi-loud.mp3 |
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| 15:24.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Woo! Swedish girlfriend arrived in Boston safely. |
| 15:24.44 | Lone_Wanderer | Now I just need to get her my keys so she can get into the apartment. |
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| 15:27.00 | Benni_Hanna | ya the TSA can be a bitch |
| 15:27.23 | mindjuju | i think he means customs |
| 15:27.36 | mindjuju | do you go through TSA on inbound flights? |
| 15:28.27 | Benni_Hanna | well the TSA still sucks lol |
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| 15:28.41 | mindjuju | no argument there :) |
| 15:30.31 | captbrogers | I do. I know some people that work for TSA and have since before it's been getting all the horrible press |
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| 15:32.35 | captbrogers | The agents you see and deal with do not make the policies and are most often just as unhappy about dealing with you. |
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| 15:37.04 | mindjuju | i think i'm going to be Psy from Gangnam style for Halloween |
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| 15:39.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Customs, whatever. The guys who decide if you can enter the US. |
| 15:39.23 | Lone_Wanderer | I thought customs was the guys who make sure you're not bringing in contraband? |
| 15:39.26 | mindjuju | yeah, that's customs |
| 15:39.39 | mindjuju | oh well, hmm |
| 15:39.56 | mindjuju | i came in from beijing to lax like 12yrs ago, now i'm trying to remember |
| 15:40.05 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't really know, and my SSL configuration isn't working which is annoying. Also, sinus headache. |
| 15:40.31 | Lone_Wanderer | If you're a US citizen I think they just check your passport and say "welcome home" |
| 15:40.55 | mindjuju | hmm, i remember having my suitcase open and having to explain some things |
| 15:41.02 | TuxToaster | yeah customs is the one that checks for importing and contraband. |
| 15:41.11 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh. There. I fixed it. Yeah, that's customs. Ohh, S.G. is here. Be back shortly. |
| 15:41.14 | captbrogers | "It's for decoration, officer, I swear!" |
| 15:41.44 | TuxToaster | your passport is checked separately from going through customs |
| 15:41.58 | mindjuju | ah |
| 15:42.06 | mindjuju | i don't travel as much as i used to, i miss it |
| 15:42.16 | TuxToaster | the weird one is coming from the Bahamas, since you go through customs & immigration IN the bahamas |
| 15:42.55 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: same here. Few years ago I was travelling quite a bit. Though when it's for work, it can be tiring. |
| 15:43.46 | mindjuju | didn't really have to be anywhere specific at any time |
| 15:44.04 | TuxToaster | yeah, exactly. When I went it was fun, but was usually under a schedule. |
| 15:44.32 | captbrogers | I remember when I traveled to Japan by myself |
| 15:44.57 | captbrogers | Only 17, and it was crazy but fun |
| 15:45.18 | mindjuju | captbrogers, i always wanted to go to Japan, just didn't have enough $$ |
| 15:45.28 | mindjuju | still want to go though |
| 15:45.42 | captbrogers | It was a gift from my brother and parents for graduation |
| 15:46.16 | TuxToaster | wow |
| 15:46.40 | captbrogers | Yeah, spent two weeks with my brother in Japan learning to surf, hanging out and seeing a ton of cool stuff |
| 15:47.03 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 15:47.23 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:51.02 | captbrogers | Some of my best memories, and it came at a time that I was dealing with a lot of drama, but in high school who isn't. So it was a nice two week break from absolutely everything. |
| 15:52.47 | TuxToaster | http://vimeo.com/46857169 |
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| 16:04.22 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:04.23 | raifbot | takes ChanServ to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 16:04.53 | captbrogers | Well that escalated quickly |
| 16:05.33 | TuxToaster | if only ChanServ was programmed to retaliate... |
| 16:10.20 | captbrogers | So the diapers and pull-ups I bought for my two youngest suck. Two nights ago my son pees through his diaper while sleeping on my bed, and it was on my side. So I wash my sheets yesterday. Last night my second kid climbs in with me after getting scared in the middle of the night. Found out this morning she did the same thing. |
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| 16:18.01 | TuxToaster | oi |
| 16:19.54 | mindjuju | ouch |
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| 16:30.23 | captbrogers | I seriously hate going into an IRC room for a framework/cms and asking a direct question but getting no response |
| 16:30.40 | mindjuju | heh |
| 16:30.44 | captbrogers | Then I ask if I can get someone to help me and everyone flips, telling me to just ask the question |
| 16:36.25 | mindjuju | wait, wth ? http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/ |
| 16:36.46 | mindjuju | steam comes to TV? |
| 16:37.38 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: sounds like most IRC rooms |
| 16:37.46 | mindjuju | i'm confused |
| 16:37.50 | mindjuju | is it a console? |
| 16:38.56 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: that could be interesting |
| 16:38.58 | TuxToaster | and no |
| 16:39.06 | TuxToaster | they say to just hook up your computer to your TV with HDMI |
| 16:39.24 | mindjuju | how is this different that what was, say Friday of last week? |
| 16:39.33 | mindjuju | i could always do that |
| 16:40.27 | TuxToaster | sounds like they just made it so that you get a nice TV UI to work with |
| 16:40.42 | TuxToaster | so basically it turns your PC into a gaming console using your Steam games |
| 16:40.48 | TuxToaster | at least that's what it looks like |
| 16:40.49 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 16:41.03 | mindjuju | i wished they'd have been spending their time on HL3 instead |
| 16:41.19 | TuxToaster | yeah |
| 16:41.31 | TuxToaster | it's a cool concept tho |
| 16:41.43 | TuxToaster | and likely the people doing Steam are not the people who would be developing games |
| 16:42.19 | mindjuju | they could be giving backrubs and getting drinks for those who are working on HL3 |
| 16:42.24 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:42.28 | mindjuju | and getting bagels+schmear and stuff |
| 16:56.38 | captbrogers | I'm feeling forever alone, anyone want to meet up for lunch? |
| 17:01.34 | fungus | mindjuju, it sounds like a grab for market share from the console market. |
| 17:02.17 | fungus | With their new UI, and controller options, it actually sounds like a compelling product. |
| 17:02.38 | fungus | Especially since the next gen consoles are sorely needed, but still a long way out. |
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| 17:24.18 | josePHPagoda | captbrogers: sure! |
| 17:24.29 | josePHPagoda | Wanna come up to Idaho? |
| 17:30.01 | captbrogers | But I have a good parking spot now at BYU |
| 17:31.58 | mindjuju | last time i went to idaho, i saw the bad side |
| 17:32.03 | mindjuju | i don't think i'm going back |
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| 17:44.05 | wps | ~wps |
| 17:44.05 | ibot | from memory, wps is Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 17:44.14 | wps | ~wps_wife |
| 17:44.20 | wps | ~wps_kid |
| 17:44.24 | wps | ~wps wife |
| 17:44.32 | wps | ~wps' wife |
| 17:44.32 | ibot | wps's wife is probably Mrs. Sexy Pants |
| 17:44.39 | wps | ~wps' kid |
| 17:44.39 | ibot | well, wps's kid is Junior Sexy Pants |
| 17:44.40 | captbrogers | ... |
| 17:44.48 | captbrogers | w. t. f... |
| 17:44.57 | wps | sorry… done… go back to work |
| 17:45.22 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:51.41 | ninnypants | http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm |
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| 18:06.04 | mgeary | can anyone else confirm that GoDaddy is having DNS issues? |
| 18:06.12 | mgeary | can you even hit GoDaddy.com ? |
| 18:08.13 | DexterTheDragon | yeah it's dead |
| 18:08.24 | DexterTheDragon | their dns servers aren't responding |
| 18:08.28 | DexterTheDragon | everythings down |
| 18:08.32 | DexterTheDragon | stop the internet |
| 18:08.36 | captbrogers | DDoS attack? |
| 18:10.09 | ShunkyDave | No GoDaddy. Hmm, I don't feel any different. |
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| 18:12.16 | ninnypants | anyone worked with the oauth api before? |
| 18:15.41 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: whose API? |
| 18:17.28 | josePHPagoda | i think ninnypants is blaming oauth for the godaddy outage. |
| 18:17.34 | josePHPagoda | :P |
| 18:18.31 | josePHPagoda | ninnypants, that site is incredibly light weight! |
| 18:18.33 | josePHPagoda | :P |
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| 18:22.46 | mahelious | http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/cmp/jamcentral/prodnotesframes.html |
| 18:22.59 | mahelious | my eyes!!! |
| 18:54.17 | mindjuju | sounds like godaddy services took a flying ninja kick to the jimmies today |
| 18:54.28 | ShunkyDave | yeah, but I can see them |
| 18:54.44 | ShunkyDave | I just heard that people that have godaddy certs have their ssl down |
| 18:54.50 | ShunkyDave | I can't confirm |
| 18:55.02 | mindjuju | ouch, i have one |
| 18:55.08 | ShunkyDave | are you up? |
| 18:55.09 | mindjuju | not my choice, checking |
| 18:57.29 | wps | is there a PHP function that will strip any chars from a string that are not valid for a URL? |
| 18:57.47 | ShunkyDave | what characters are those? |
| 18:58.00 | ShunkyDave | not saying there aren't any, just not thinking too hard about it right now |
| 18:58.16 | mindjuju | htmlspecialchars @wps |
| 18:58.27 | mindjuju | iirc |
| 18:58.54 | wps | that converts them to html entities |
| 18:58.56 | wps | I want to remove them |
| 18:59.06 | wps | actually I want a small list of chars than the real URL list |
| 18:59.07 | captbrogers | Every time someone uses 'IIRC' I always think they are stuttering when trying to say, "IRC" |
| 18:59.16 | wps | me too, captbrogers |
| 18:59.40 | wps | :&?= are approved but I don't want those |
| 18:59.44 | wps | I basically just want 0-9a-zA-Z+_- |
| 18:59.52 | wps | I'll have to use preg_replace |
| 19:00.02 | captbrogers | replace pregnancy?! |
| 19:00.14 | ShunkyDave | mindjuju, SSL pages up and reachable? |
| 19:00.35 | mindjuju | testing still, looks ok so far, but i'm trying different sources etc |
| 19:00.42 | mindjuju | i don't want cache fouling up my testing |
| 19:00.47 | ShunkyDave | aah, good point |
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| 19:01.23 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 19:01.23 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesn't worry about changing his clock twice a year for daylight savings time. The sun rises and sets when Chuck tells it to. |
| 19:01.30 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 19:01.30 | raifbot | If you have five dollars and Chuck Norris has five dollars, Chuck Norris has more money than you. |
| 19:01.34 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 19:01.35 | raifbot | Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding. |
| 19:01.38 | beandog | lol |
| 19:01.51 | ShunkyDave | boo beandog |
| 19:02.10 | beandog | ShunkyDave: wassup |
| 19:02.22 | beandog | lastfm isn't loading :( |
| 19:02.50 | mindjuju | beandog, anychance related to godaddy outage? |
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| 19:02.54 | beandog | oh there it goes |
| 19:02.59 | beandog | mindjuju: I had nothing to do with that |
| 19:03.07 | mindjuju | don't know, if it doesn't play techno, i don't listen to it |
| 19:03.29 | beandog | mindjuju is a music snob |
| 19:03.34 | Heartsbane | beandog: works for me http://www.last.fm/home |
| 19:03.43 | beandog | the radio's not working |
| 19:03.49 | beandog | flipping out a bit |
| 19:04.03 | beandog | oh well, thankfully I have my 50-pound boombox with me. |
| 19:04.06 | Heartsbane | beandog: werqz for me |
| 19:04.46 | beandog | http://www.last.fm/music/Prem+Joshua+&+Manish+Vyas/_/Moon+Song |
| 19:04.47 | mindjuju | Heartsbane, link? |
| 19:04.54 | beandog | bah |
| 19:05.04 | Heartsbane | mindjuju: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/heartsbaneTS/mix |
| 19:05.31 | beandog | mindjuju: you'd hate my radio |
| 19:05.41 | Heartsbane | Its all country |
| 19:06.05 | mindjuju | i get general error on last.fm website |
| 19:06.17 | beandog | http://www.last.fm/listen/user/beandog76/personal |
| 19:06.51 | mindjuju | http://screencast.com/t/XW9RmWtI3HhF |
| 19:07.11 | beandog | mindjuju: what browser is that |
| 19:07.16 | ShunkyDave | inre: GoDaddy: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/ |
| 19:07.18 | mindjuju | ff |
| 19:07.31 | beandog | ShunkyDave: one MEEEELION sites! |
| 19:07.42 | ShunkyDave | lol beandog |
| 19:07.49 | beandog | heh |
| 19:08.45 | beandog | man that's gonna do a lot of business damage |
| 19:09.01 | captbrogers | Very much so |
| 19:09.03 | beandog | we have a client that got swept up in it |
| 19:09.07 | beandog | poor guys |
| 19:09.18 | ShunkyDave | yeah, stinks |
| 19:09.34 | ShunkyDave | personally, I don't have any value in GoDaddy being there or not |
| 19:09.36 | captbrogers | My cousin shares a blog with someone else and the partner decided to move the blog to GoDaddy |
| 19:09.48 | captbrogers | Got stuck and asked me to do it for them. That happened just last week |
| 19:09.57 | ShunkyDave | yeah, beandog, I'd buy that from them. I now trust they know more about it than they did before |
| 19:10.19 | beandog | that's like saying I know more about the hospital because I got stabbed in the head with a fork |
| 19:10.29 | captbrogers | seems legit. |
| 19:10.32 | beandog | which .. I guess is still true ... |
| 19:10.42 | beandog | ~stab someone with a fork |
| 19:10.42 | ibot | ACTION runs at someone with a fork with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:11.04 | ShunkyDave | beandog -- yeah, that's what I'm saying |
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| 19:11.06 | beandog | It's gotta be nearly impossible to completley prevent ddos |
| 19:11.30 | ShunkyDave | beandog -- use distributed DNS. Or...two different distributed DNS :) |
| 19:11.32 | captbrogers | It is, which sucks about how DNS and other protocols work |
| 19:11.50 | beandog | ShunkyDave: distributed dns? is that where you have multiple nameservers? |
| 19:12.01 | ShunkyDave | third-party |
| 19:12.02 | beandog | captbrogers: DNS seems kind of like a bandaid for the Internet sometimes |
| 19:13.28 | beandog | I hate dealing with DNS |
| 19:13.33 | beandog | even locally I have issues on our own servers |
| 19:13.35 | beandog | it's so hard to debug. |
| 19:13.50 | mindjuju | ~dns beandog |
| 19:13.52 | beandog | I have a massive oreilly book on DNS, though. I should probably read it sometime |
| 19:13.58 | beandog | ~dns beandog.org |
| 19:14.02 | ShunkyDave | hehe |
| 19:14.03 | beandog | nice |
| 19:14.10 | captbrogers | ~dns foobar.com |
| 19:14.20 | beandog | ~dns godaddy.com |
| 19:14.27 | mindjuju | ~dns example.com |
| 19:14.30 | beandog | ~dns localhost |
| 19:14.31 | captbrogers | Interesting. Foobar.com is on BlueHost... |
| 19:14.35 | beandog | lol |
| 19:14.41 | beandog | this could get interesting. |
| 19:14.46 | beandog | ~hostname |
| 19:14.46 | ibot | hmm... hostname is use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' , or see /etc/mailname |
| 19:15.01 | fungus | beandog, I totally disagree. DNS has been the best, most stable, most used Internet protocol ever made. |
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| 19:15.07 | fungus | DNS is amazing. |
| 19:15.17 | beandog | fungus: okay, in that case, my knowledge of DNS is abhorrent |
| 19:15.47 | mindjuju | ~fungus |
| 19:15.47 | ibot | well, fungus is Kinda smelly, but grows on you, or a ASCII guru, or an Okra fan, or the new hawtness, or a hip, or gaga for Gaga, or a disciple of Hoprah |
| 19:16.30 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I was thinking I said githubs but I guess I forgot |
| 19:16.45 | ShunkyDave | githubs was down earlier |
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| 19:17.05 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 19:17.14 | Heartsbane | ZOMG DNS is PHUCKED! |
| 19:17.22 | Heartsbane | pffftttt |
| 19:17.43 | beandog | ~resolve Heartsbane |
| 19:17.46 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah took lunch not too long after that |
| 19:18.01 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: no worries, me too :P |
| 19:18.03 | beandog | "DNS is down? Well, I'm going to lunch." |
| 19:18.12 | mindjuju | ~dns Heartsbane |
| 19:18.20 | TuxToaster | ~ddos Heartsbane |
| 19:18.20 | ibot | ACTION about to DOS Heartsbane just for fun "Take that" |
| 19:18.31 | beandog | ~ddos ibot |
| 19:18.31 | ibot | ACTION about to DOS ibot just for fun "Take that" |
| 19:18.33 | TuxToaster | ibot: that should be BoS |
| 19:18.36 | TuxToaster | err, DoS |
| 19:18.46 | TuxToaster | even Heartsbane doesn't deserve DOS. |
| 19:18.48 | beandog | MS DOS |
| 19:18.50 | beandog | Oh man |
| 19:18.52 | Heartsbane | Heartsbane heerz ya & Heartsbane dun care. |
| 19:18.58 | TuxToaster | ~dos beandog |
| 19:18.58 | ibot | Opening the icmp floodgates:\n for i in `seq 0 1024`; do echo "Pinging beandog"; ping -s beandog"; done |
| 19:19.00 | beandog | I tried running FreeDOS in VirtualBox, and it totally croaked |
| 19:19.16 | beandog | so did OpenBSD :( |
| 19:19.18 | beandog | man |
| 19:19.21 | beandog | I remember MS DOS |
| 19:19.23 | beandog | all too well |
| 19:19.28 | beandog | Those were the days ... |
| 19:19.31 | TuxToaster | I ran an app called DosBox once |
| 19:19.56 | TuxToaster | it was decent |
| 19:19.58 | beandog | I wonder if I could get Tie Fighter working in DosBox |
| 19:20.08 | beandog | man, I really miss DOS |
| 19:20.09 | TuxToaster | is it graphical? |
| 19:20.10 | beandog | it was so cool |
| 19:20.21 | beandog | TuxToaster: yah, it's perhaps the best Star Wars game I've ever played |
| 19:20.21 | TuxToaster | I was able to run Gorillas :P |
| 19:20.36 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: ended up being an error in their docs from what I can see |
| 19:20.51 | beandog | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozXQbUh4U8&feature=player_embedded |
| 19:20.52 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: ah, lovely |
| 19:21.00 | ninnypants | beandog: I thought you were talking about Jeff Attwood's secret project for a second |
| 19:21.01 | beandog | no sound, whut? |
| 19:21.27 | beandog | oh man, so fun |
| 19:21.28 | TuxToaster | beandog: most of my favorite DOS games were shareware games that we'd get at the dollar store we had in Price |
| 19:21.39 | TuxToaster | (All-A-Dollar, before Dollar Tree was around) |
| 19:21.59 | TuxToaster | they used to have little envelopes with floppies in them for a dollar, some might even have two games on the disk |
| 19:22.05 | beandog | I remember going to SoftwareHouse, pre CompUSA days |
| 19:22.13 | beandog | just to look at the VGA monitors and being so amazed |
| 19:22.27 | beandog | TuxToaster: yah, that's awesome ... man ... good times |
| 19:22.32 | TuxToaster | only problem was our PC was a Tandy 286, so anything that req'd a 386 didn't work :( |
| 19:22.33 | mindjuju | i remember having to hand crank my floppy disk drive to work |
| 19:22.34 | beandog | now I wanna play Hero's Quest |
| 19:22.41 | romanovic | heh |
| 19:22.41 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: .... |
| 19:22.42 | mindjuju | you'd have one person cranking, the other playing |
| 19:23.00 | beandog | ~nslookup |
| 19:23.03 | mindjuju | heh |
| 19:23.05 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 19:23.14 | ninnypants | mindjuju: you didn't rig up some pedals? |
| 19:23.25 | beandog | lol |
| 19:23.29 | beandog | 1o1 |
| 19:23.35 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: that explains why my disks used to stop responding... |
| 19:23.46 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1wZEvOP0Sw |
| 19:32.04 | Heartsbane | hehehe godaddy.com still down, long live the revolution |
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| 19:33.24 | captbrogers | I guess it's one of Anonymous that is responsible? |
| 19:33.42 | clintberry | one person can do that? |
| 19:33.55 | mindjuju | sure |
| 19:34.01 | captbrogers | Supposedly, @anonymousown3r I guess |
| 19:34.09 | mindjuju | one person could take out the whole internet by googling google |
| 19:34.13 | Heartsbane | http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/10/godaddy-goes-down-taking-countless-websites-offline-anonymous-claims-responsibility/ |
| 19:34.14 | ninnypants | clintberry: that's what the nsa was actually building the data center for |
| 19:35.10 | mindjuju | ...sigh... guess nobody caught the IT Crowd quote |
| 19:35.54 | captbrogers | I could never get into that show |
| 19:35.59 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEwW6D0sht0 |
| 19:36.04 | captbrogers | Too slow and..."British"...for me |
| 19:38.30 | ninnypants | mindjuju: heh I didn't notice that post |
| 19:38.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:38.53 | ninnypants | I think you have to get permission from the Hawk before you google google |
| 19:38.54 | fungus | I saw a pilot for the US version, and it wasn't as good. kinda sucked |
| 19:39.14 | mindjuju | fungus, totally, i saw part of it on youtube |
| 19:39.17 | ninnypants | fungus: it's because they tried to copy the British version exactly |
| 19:39.27 | mindjuju | yeah, it was sad |
| 19:39.43 | mindjuju | they should just leave it british and pipe it over |
| 19:39.54 | mindjuju | course, the whole show is over :( |
| 19:40.16 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I was afraid that was the case |
| 19:42.07 | mindjuju | ninnypants - In August 2012, in response to fans tweets, Lineham himself replied, stating that the script was already written but Parkinson (Jen) was having a baby and other cast members were busy so it had yet to be filmed.[15] |
| 19:47.49 | ninnypants | this is amazing though NSFW http://gawker.com/5941912/this-anti+masturbation-sign-lanugage-psa-set-to-r-kellys-ignition-remix-is-amazing |
| 19:52.49 | mgeary | can anyone speak to any significant differences between RHEL 6.1 and 6.2? |
| 19:53.03 | captbrogers | Yes. the second is .1 better |
| 19:53.28 | mindjuju | for that mgeary, i'd look to herlo or jsmith |
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| 19:55.42 | beandog | captbrogers: lol |
| 19:55.51 | beandog | point upgrades ftw |
| 20:00.04 | jsmith | mgeary: Nothing more than about six months of engineering work :-p |
| 20:00.09 | captbrogers | key changes: improvements in virtualization, resourcemanagement, and high availability |
| 20:00.24 | jsmith | mgeary: Particularly with regards to virtualization, power management, and some new technology previews |
| 20:01.28 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:01.28 | raifbot | DoSes tierra. |
| 20:01.40 | mgeary | i guess my real question is, should i have any concerns about a django/mysql/apache application being developed for RHEL 6.1 being deployed on RHEL 6.2 ? |
| 20:01.42 | TuxToaster | aha. |
| 20:01.52 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you part of Anonymous? |
| 20:01.53 | raifbot | TuxToaster - My sources say no. |
| 20:02.05 | TuxToaster | $8ball are your sources anonymous? |
| 20:02.05 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 20:02.10 | TuxToaster | psh |
| 20:02.21 | TuxToaster | mgeary: nope |
| 20:02.51 | TuxToaster | generally you wouldn't see a significant change in packages until 7.x |
| 20:04.02 | TuxToaster | unless of course that django/python/mysql/apache do something stupid and make their apps backwards-incompatible in a point release ;-) |
| 20:04.38 | TuxToaster | but hopefully if that did happen the package maintainer for the distro would likely not push that update into the repos |
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| 20:14.56 | TuxToaster | http://blogredbox.blogspot.com/2011/08/geeky-gadgets-newsletter_10.html#38 WANT. |
| 20:15.29 | TuxToaster | actually better link http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/turtle-shell-robot-racers-video-09-08-2011/ |
| 20:26.48 | ninnypants | http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2511-Obama-Admin-Pursuing-Executive-Order-to-Enact-CISPA-Like-Cybersecurity-Language |
| 20:36.45 | Heartsbane | looks like Godaddy.com is back up over here ... booo |
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| 20:38.26 | mindjuju | prolly Heartsbane cache, it's not up over here :p |
| 20:39.49 | Heartsbane | nope |
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| 21:19.00 | Bikerdan | Ouch |
| 21:19.10 | Bikerdan | Pushed? |
| 21:19.19 | macnewbold | ninnypants: it's there forever now…. mwahahahahaha |
| 21:19.44 | mindjuju | so peno / fungus, i'm wondering, what are the dangers of increasing MTU to 1492? research i've been doing seems to indicate that 1492 is the largest you should set to if you are PPPoE (allowing 8bits for the wrapper) |
| 21:20.14 | peno | for local traffic, or wan traffic? |
| 21:20.28 | mindjuju | both |
| 21:20.40 | fungus | Only decrease it to 1492 on the WAN interface |
| 21:20.50 | peno | ^^ that |
| 21:20.51 | mindjuju | LAN can be 1500? |
| 21:20.55 | peno | yes |
| 21:20.55 | fungus | yes |
| 21:21.11 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:21.14 | mindjuju | thx |
| 21:21.18 | mindjuju | ~peno++ |
| 21:21.20 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 21:22.05 | macnewbold | ~mtu++ |
| 21:22.17 | mindjuju | ~macnewbold++ |
| 21:22.25 | macnewbold | ~mindjuju++ |
| 21:22.32 | macnewbold | ~msie-- |
| 21:22.36 | fungus | FYI, the only bad side effect of decreasing an MTU is slightly lower performance. No "dangers". |
| 21:23.02 | fungus | Now increasing the MTU on the other hand, can have dangers. |
| 21:23.23 | mindjuju | so this would represent an increase |
| 21:23.35 | mindjuju | danger in fragementation or worse? |
| 21:23.50 | fungus | moving from 1500 to 1492 is a decrease |
| 21:23.53 | mindjuju | i understand another danger is that uploads may stop mid way |
| 21:24.12 | fungus | If you MTU is lower than needed, you just fragment more packets. |
| 21:24.27 | fungus | If your MTU is too high, you lose all packets that are too large. |
| 21:24.52 | fungus | So an MTU too high is very bad. lower than needed means less than optimal. |
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| 21:37.11 | beandog | RAWR |
| 21:37.18 | beandog | I need to ratelimit ssh connections |
| 21:37.21 | beandog | ~lart script kiddies |
| 21:37.21 | ibot | gives script kiddies an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending script kiddies to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 21:38.22 | jsmith | beandog: Connections in general, or just new connection attempts? |
| 21:38.43 | beandog | jsmith: kiddies doing dictionary attacks on ssh |
| 21:38.51 | beandog | but trying like 100 or so every second |
| 21:39.11 | jsmith | beandog: iptables can handle that :-) |
| 21:39.30 | beandog | yah |
| 21:39.35 | beandog | I think I'll move the port while I'm at it. |
| 21:41.16 | TuxToaster | good call |
| 21:41.26 | beandog | I think I'm gonna move HTTP to another port too. |
| 21:41.33 | beandog | If they want to see my website, they need to work for it. |
| 21:41.37 | TuxToaster | I never use 22 for boxes with open SSH ports |
| 21:41.48 | beandog | ~nmap TuxToaster |
| 21:41.48 | ibot | ACTION findlays TuxToaster. |
| 21:42.21 | TuxToaster | I used to keep my firewall set so that only my office at work had access to my ssh ports externally, but it was a bit of a PITA if I was at someone's house and trying to get in. lol |
| 21:42.35 | beandog | TuxToaster: I run dropbear on a second port |
| 21:42.51 | beandog | so for those times when I .. um ... hypothetically lock myself out. |
| 21:43.56 | mindjuju | any Nacho Libre fans in the house? |
| 21:46.44 | beandog | no |
| 21:46.54 | beandog | ~cram nachos in mindjuju's face with prejudice |
| 21:47.09 | mindjuju | really? |
| 21:47.13 | Bikerdan | I am |
| 21:47.26 | beandog | ~give mindjuju stretchy pants |
| 21:47.26 | ibot | ACTION gives stretchy pants to mindjuju |
| 21:47.39 | Bikerdan | I ate some dirt, I ate some grass... |
| 21:47.45 | beandog | storm troopers wear stretchy pants |
| 21:47.52 | mindjuju | Bikerdan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdDJ1_ZUyLs |
| 21:48.44 | Bikerdan | no no no no no way jose! |
| 21:48.53 | Bikerdan | Unless you want to! |
| 21:48.55 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:48.57 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 21:48.59 | Bikerdan | Love it |
| 21:51.04 | ninnypants | macnewbold: seriously though at least it's easy to just regen a password |
| 21:51.18 | macnewbold | yeah true |
| 21:51.24 | macnewbold | as long as you're not using it too many places :) |
| 21:51.45 | ninnypants | all passwords are computer generated and unique :) |
| 21:52.09 | ninnypants | just seems like a dumb mistake since usernames and passwords shouldn't be stored in code |
| 21:52.57 | ninnypants | accidentally committed it when I started switching to Oauth |
| 21:53.28 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:53.31 | TuxToaster | whoops |
| 21:56.18 | ninnypants | yeah guess that should teach me to write it right the first time |
| 21:56.26 | beandog | ninnypants: you know what I was thinking the other day? for extra security, why not just make the username a random string too?? |
| 21:57.10 | ninnypants | beandog: I guess it would depend on the application of the username but if you were using a password manage it wouldn't be a big deal |
| 21:57.12 | beandog | "Hi, this is J&[{b.5E#1w8\83g" |
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| 22:00.06 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:00.38 | beandog | heh |
| 22:00.43 | beandog | "and I can't remembe my password" |
| 22:01.04 | beandog | "I know there's % in there somewhere" |
| 22:02.22 | ninnypants | beandog: maybe you should just limit passwords to 3 chars just knowing your username may be enough |
| 22:02.41 | beandog | heh |
| 22:02.42 | beandog | srsly. |
| 22:04.28 | ninnypants | on another note with passwords why is it that banks seem to force you to have a terrible password? |
| 22:04.39 | beandog | I dunno |
| 22:04.41 | ninnypants | seems like they should be making you have ones that are extra strong |
| 22:04.50 | beandog | I remember one guy telling me that AMEX runs everything on COBOL |
| 22:04.52 | TuxToaster | you mean the caps+number+lowercase+symbol+8 chars? |
| 22:05.16 | TuxToaster | oh that . |
| 22:05.23 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah basically must be 8 but not more than 12 stuff like that |
| 22:05.39 | beandog | Actually there's a guy in my ward that's been a COBOL programmer for like 30 years |
| 22:05.47 | beandog | or something. |
| 22:05.47 | ninnypants | oh crap like numbers don't count if you start your pw with them |
| 22:05.53 | TuxToaster | yeah I noticed that Chase's website would NOT take my preferred password, although it was 10 chars with mixed case |
| 22:06.08 | TuxToaster | but it took 8 chars all lower case just fine. |
| 22:06.40 | beandog | TuxToaster is a security hacker!! Probing bank's security, shame, shame. |
| 22:06.47 | beandog | ~report TuxToaster |
| 22:06.53 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 22:07.00 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I had a password that met my BoA mortgage requirements but couldn't use it because passwords starting with a number were and weren't allowed at the same time |
| 22:07.25 | fungus | I had to mock an developer here once because his webapp didn't work w/ my password. I used a space in my password. |
| 22:07.27 | TuxToaster | beandog: by that logic, EVERYONE who uses a password is a hacker, trying to see if the string they typed in matches the password in the system. |
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| 22:07.56 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: lol. |
| 22:08.04 | beandog | TuxToaster: hmm ... there's a consulting opportunity in here somewhere. |
| 22:08.09 | ninnypants | fungus: that's another one I never got the chars in a password shouldn't matter since it should be hashed anyway |
| 22:08.12 | TuxToaster | ~dogbert++ |
| 22:08.20 | ninnypants | ~dogbert |
| 22:08.20 | ibot | from memory, dogbert is "I like to con people. I like to insult people. Thus, I have decided to become an consultant." |
| 22:08.29 | beandog | lol |
| 22:08.31 | TuxToaster | fitting. |
| 22:08.38 | beandog | seems legit. |
| 22:08.41 | TuxToaster | ~karma dogbert |
| 22:08.41 | ibot | dogbert has karma of 1 |
| 22:08.44 | TuxToaster | ~dogbert++ |
| 22:08.57 | fungus | beandog, don't move SSH to another port. That's just silly. Just use proper firewall rules. |
| 22:09.04 | ninnypants | dogbert and the garbage man are the best parts of dilbert |
| 22:09.16 | fungus | If you are coming from another network that not allowed, just use your VPN. |
| 22:09.17 | TuxToaster | fungus: why is it silly if it's a private box? |
| 22:09.52 | beandog | fungus: are you trying to pit your sysadmin skillz against mine? Because we both know who would totally crush the other. |
| 22:10.07 | beandog | fungus: and I didn't bring a pan of brownies for me to cry into today, so let's not go there, mmmkay? |
| 22:10.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:10.39 | fungus | don't feel bad, get even. |
| 22:10.39 | beandog | fungus: never done rate limiting before, looking into it right now |
| 22:10.59 | beandog | I have a looong history with iptables. Most of it negative. |
| 22:11.11 | fungus | rate limiting helps, but better to just whitelist the networks that are allowed. |
| 22:11.18 | beandog | fungus: Hmm |
| 22:11.32 | beandog | fungus: you know, I never thought of just using vpn to access stuff. |
| 22:11.35 | beandog | hmm |
| 22:11.50 | beandog | I'm assuming you mean vpn -> office -> client |
| 22:11.52 | TuxToaster | beandog: I hate to suggest it.... |
| 22:12.01 | TuxToaster | beandog: but that's the point of a vpn |
| 22:12.02 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 22:12.07 | fungus | lol |
| 22:12.11 | beandog | TuxToaster: no, I mean not having open ssh access |
| 22:12.14 | beandog | We use vpn to get into the office |
| 22:12.16 | beandog | but that's it. |
| 22:12.22 | TuxToaster | I use a door. |
| 22:12.28 | TuxToaster | *rimshot* |
| 22:12.35 | beandog | *all* of our SSH daemons are setup to only allow public keys |
| 22:12.40 | fungus | Just use ssh over the VPN, if you are coming from a non-whitelisted network. |
| 22:13.13 | fungus | beandog, that's a good idea. now add another layer to whitelist good networks. |
| 22:13.37 | TuxToaster | beandog: technically if you've got working VPN you really don't have to have any ports open to the public at all |
| 22:14.09 | beandog | Hmm |
| 22:14.14 | beandog | I don't think my co-workers would go for that ... |
| 22:14.17 | TuxToaster | (well, aside from ones required for the VPN to work properly) |
| 22:14.33 | beandog | but it is a good idea I hadn't considered before |
| 22:14.37 | TuxToaster | beandog: BOFH. :-) |
| 22:14.46 | beandog | TuxToaster: yah I'm just thinking of how to make it work |
| 22:14.46 | cro | and for contractor type people, needing access to multiple VPNs can generate quite a hassle |
| 22:15.24 | TuxToaster | cro: good point. Though for contractor type people... you do want the ability to cut them off quickly and easily if needed. |
| 22:15.41 | TuxToaster | and killing their VPN if it's the only way in is like slamming a lead door in their face. |
| 22:16.02 | beandog | wouldn't it be a little hard to slam a lead door? |
| 22:16.05 | beandog | that thing would be heavy. |
| 22:16.10 | TuxToaster | ~beandog++ |
| 22:16.19 | TuxToaster | let me rephrase |
| 22:16.27 | beandog | "Imagine that I'm closing this quickly" *hernia* |
| 22:16.38 | TuxToaster | and killing their VPN if it's the only way in is like slowly pushing a lead door closed in front of them. |
| 22:16.53 | beandog | not even superman's getting through that! |
| 22:16.55 | beandog | unless he punches it. |
| 22:16.59 | TuxToaster | which, of course, means you'll need backup to make sure they don't slip in while you're doing it. |
| 22:17.01 | beandog | or goes around it. |
| 22:17.10 | beandog | we don't have anyone getting in |
| 22:17.20 | TuxToaster | *whew* finally closed. *turns around* |
| 22:17.24 | TuxToaster | wait, how'd you get in here?! |
| 22:17.25 | beandog | Okay, well those are some great ideas, I'm gonna think about doing that. |
| 22:17.30 | ninnypants | you'll just have to use an unobtainium door |
| 22:17.39 | beandog | In the meantime, I'm gonna implement rate limitting, since it won't affect anyone but idiots. |
| 22:17.44 | beandog | ninnypants: lol |
| 22:17.48 | beandog | lol |
| 22:17.52 | beandog | ~ninnypants++ |
| 22:18.29 | ninnypants | that may be the stupidest name for a rare metal that I've ever heard |
| 22:19.33 | beandog | what?? |
| 22:19.40 | beandog | that's the *coolest* name I've heard. |
| 22:20.43 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: a better name for a rare metal would be "notverymuchofitonium" |
| 22:20.46 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 22:21.50 | TuxToaster | beandog: did you know that an antelope can jump higher than the average house? |
| 22:22.16 | TuxToaster | I mean, it makes sense because the average house can not jump. |
| 22:22.24 | beandog | heh |
| 22:22.40 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:22.46 | TuxToaster | yay, a 3 |
| 22:22.59 | beandog | Okay you know what's great |
| 22:23.04 | beandog | there's a user on reddit named 'otterfacts' |
| 22:23.09 | beandog | and all he does is convo bomb with otter facts |
| 22:23.11 | beandog | it's hilarious |
| 22:23.14 | TuxToaster | LOL |
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| 22:37.36 | herlo | no you shouldn't. ^^ time waster |
| 22:37.52 | beandog | helps me relax sometimes |
| 22:37.59 | herlo | ~blame beandog |
| 22:37.59 | ibot | ACTION blames beandog (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:37.59 | ninnypants | herlo: good point |
| 22:38.03 | beandog | I cleaned out all my subreddits the other day, now I'm down to like three |
| 22:38.04 | herlo | :P |
| 22:38.08 | herlo | ninnypants: how's things? |
| 22:38.31 | ninnypants | herlo: pretty good still haven't managed to find time to learn Python yet though |
| 22:38.35 | beandog | http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/ |
| 22:38.37 | beandog | I love this one |
| 22:38.46 | beandog | http://www.reddit.com/r/survivorsofabuse/ |
| 22:38.48 | herlo | ninnypants: hmm |
| 22:38.49 | beandog | That one's not so cheery. |
| 22:39.40 | herlo | ninnypants: I'm hanging out in the Data Center where Linux Foundation has its servers. We have a Dell r720 that had its motherboard and PSU go bye bye, and I'm watching the tech replace them. :) |
| 22:40.24 | herlo | lol |
| 22:42.01 | beandog | rage repair! |
| 22:42.14 | beandog | We had an HDD that totally died on us once |
| 22:42.20 | beandog | So we played soccer with it in the office for about a week |
| 22:43.09 | herlo | hah |
| 22:43.11 | herlo | nice |
| 22:43.41 | TuxToaster | beandog: hopefully no one tried to spike it with their head |
| 22:44.33 | TuxToaster | though that would be fun to try to explain what happened |
| 22:44.56 | herlo | nowai! ouch! |
| 22:45.21 | beandog | why not? workers comp! |
| 22:45.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:45.31 | herlo | uh, not sure they'd pay for that... |
| 22:45.38 | herlo | beandog: but feel free to try! :-D |
| 22:45.42 | beandog | I'm gonna put that to the test right now |
| 22:46.07 | beandog | I wonder if a usb stick would work instead |
| 22:46.17 | beandog | I have one we like to bounce around the office |
| 22:46.25 | herlo | heh, not hard enough |
| 22:46.48 | beandog | my boss used to pitch, and he throws foam balls at me sometimes |
| 22:46.54 | beandog | it's pretty frightening |
| 22:47.01 | TuxToaster | beandog: your coworkers have strange ideas of fun. |
| 22:47.23 | TuxToaster | yeah, see, most people use foam balls. Not random computer parts. |
| 22:47.25 | SunSparc | With CrashPlan. |
| 22:47.35 | fungus | that sounds strange. I don't back up backups. But I do backup twice. |
| 22:47.59 | TuxToaster | if you backup twice, you only have to restore once. |
| 22:48.06 | SunSparc | Yeah, I guess I do not actually backup backups. I just have two asynchronous backups. |
| 22:48.07 | TuxToaster | but if you backup backups, you have to restore twice. |
| 22:48.20 | fungus | lol, true |
| 22:48.44 | beandog | Oh, wordpress |
| 22:48.55 | beandog | You have links in the comment email to trash it or spam it, but not approve it. |
| 22:48.56 | beandog | o.O |
| 22:49.08 | beandog | oh |
| 22:49.13 | beandog | it was approved by default |
| 22:49.14 | beandog | oh, beandog |
| 22:49.24 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:49.39 | ninnypants | hmm I thought the "I backup my backups" was a quote somewhere but I guess not |
| 22:49.59 | SunSparc | ~save beandog's face |
| 22:49.59 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves beandog's face from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 22:50.14 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: sounds like something the Dos Equis guy would say |
| 22:50.20 | herlo | beandog: quickly go fix your wordpress settings so it doesn't happen again |
| 22:50.23 | TuxToaster | ibot: no |
| 22:50.29 | herlo | beandog: and then go spam that commenter! |
| 22:50.32 | beandog | herlo: I think it auto-approves for registered users |
| 22:50.33 | beandog | or something |
| 22:50.49 | beandog | that doesn't make sense either. |
| 22:50.50 | beandog | whatever. |
| 22:51.01 | TuxToaster | beandog: akismet |
| 22:51.08 | SunSparc | ^ |
| 22:52.54 | beandog | no, cookies. |
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| 23:08.45 | SunSparc | ~cookie |
| 23:08.52 | SunSparc | beandog: http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Giant-Cookie-Wallpaper-cookies-161511_1024_768.jpg |
| 23:09.13 | herlo | beandog: ahh, I've done that exactly |
| 23:09.27 | beandog | aaaaaaaaah |
| 23:09.29 | beandog | don't do that |
| 23:09.29 | herlo | but I usually do approve only if they have a previously approved comment |
| 23:09.34 | beandog | now I have to fatten myself |
| 23:09.39 | herlo | lol |
| 23:09.45 | herlo | not the cookie thing |
| 23:09.53 | SunSparc | beandog: You are welcome. |
| 23:10.00 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:11.52 | TuxToaster | mmm.... cookies |
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