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| 14:40.43 | mindjuju | anybody make ipod apps? |
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| 14:42.49 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 14:42.49 | raifbot | cats /dev/urandom into unum's ear. |
| 14:42.50 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
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| 14:43.22 | captbrogers | Ah ha ha |
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| 14:48.50 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 14:48.52 | raifbot | farts in kahlstrom's general direction. |
| 14:48.54 | captbrogers | You know, I honestly feel like if I found a better country than the U.S. I would really consider moving there |
| 14:49.00 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 14:49.00 | raifbot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats SunSparc until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with. |
| 14:49.30 | josephscott | captbrogers: and now you understand why so many people come the U.S. :-) |
| 14:50.03 | captbrogers | josephscott: I know why they do, but I feel like America has lost so much of what made it truly great, not just better than others |
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| 14:50.34 | josephscott | perhaps, but it has also improved in many ways over the years |
| 14:52.14 | captbrogers | Yes it has in some ways. But the political system used to work and now it's so very, very broken |
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| 14:54.21 | josephscott | no doubt current political situation is bad, but I strongly suspect that if we went over the 200+ year history we'd find it has been bad lots of times |
| 14:54.46 | clintberry | Civil war? |
| 14:54.51 | clintberry | that was probably rough |
| 14:55.20 | josephscott | as a general idea I'm not big into "if we could just go back to how things were in 19XX|18XX" etc. |
| 14:55.40 | captbrogers | Probably. Maybe it's just that I feel like I know I don't know much about how things work, but I can't imagine that people in power are not making worse with tricks and tactics. People can't just be civil, clean, and do their work without worrying about the next election |
| 14:56.24 | captbrogers | josephscott: I don't think we should go back to an era where my wife is in the kitchen all day and gives me a plate of steak when I walk in the door. But I do feel like the work ethic of bygone years is something we sorely lack |
| 14:56.43 | carmony | hey, lets all give my lurking co-worker a big hello, mr kahlstrom :P |
| 14:57.14 | kahlstrom | Haha, hi there everyone. Lurking and working. |
| 14:57.16 | josephscott | my exeperience is that they best way to make things better is to: start with you, then family, then neighborhood/friends, then community |
| 14:57.27 | captbrogers | I agree |
| 14:58.15 | mindjuju | that's a weird thing to say josephscott |
| 14:58.19 | josephscott | all sorts of random conversations in UPHPU sometimes :-) |
| 14:58.20 | captbrogers | I am going to try to help my children learn and understand that it is no one's responsibility to take care of them as an adult but themselves. If their life is not how they want it, they have only got to look at themselves and ask, "Am I doing what I should to make things the way I want?" |
| 14:58.37 | josephscott | mindjuju: weird in what way? |
| 14:58.40 | mindjuju | to make societal change we first have to start with captbrogers, then his family or mine? |
| 14:58.44 | mindjuju | i'm confused ;) |
| 14:58.47 | josephscott | haha! |
| 14:58.59 | captbrogers | Then they will come to me, the Don, and I will teach them the ways of making offers that can't be refused |
| 14:59.10 | josephscott | ~refuse captbrogers |
| 14:59.27 | captbrogers | josephscott: You have a horse, dog, favorite animal? |
| 14:59.44 | carmony | I will say, and maybe its because I haven't been watching nearly as much, but #uphpu has been a lot less heated for this current election :P |
| 15:00.07 | captbrogers | I certainly hope that's because we all are able to be civil when we hear something we disagree with |
| 15:00.32 | mindjuju | i disagree captbrogers, let's fight!1!! |
| 15:01.31 | hhatfield | ~off mindjuju |
| 15:01.31 | ibot | ACTION Pushes mindjuju into the path of an oncoming vehicle and blames wps |
| 15:01.41 | wps | hey |
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| 15:02.34 | mindjuju | everytime i touch this MBP, i feel like i need to wash my hands |
| 15:02.36 | josephscott | vim vs. emacs, fight! |
| 15:02.44 | mindjuju | or the mac germs will get me |
| 15:02.47 | captbrogers | vim |
| 15:03.03 | josephscott | mindjuju: just mail it to me, I'll take care of it for you |
| 15:03.20 | carmony | josephscott: have you bought a new mbp yet? I can't remember |
| 15:03.37 | josephscott | no, I've got a new Air |
| 15:05.15 | josephscott | considered a retina mbp, but eventually went with the Air instead |
| 15:06.05 | unum | fopen doesn't work on a new install safe_mode is off, open_basedir is not set |
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| 15:06.28 | captbrogers | Make it work |
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| 15:09.30 | mindjuju | any apple app builders in the house? |
| 15:10.40 | unum | oops tested that wrong |
| 15:10.45 | unum | looks like apache problem |
| 15:12.29 | clintberry | mindjuju: Mac germs are awesome. Let them infect you... |
| 15:13.17 | mindjuju | i don't have the birkenstocks to pull off the conversion to mac |
| 15:13.46 | unum | ok now it's looking like a permission problem |
| 15:14.04 | fungus | lol, you missed the transition this decade. |
| 15:14.04 | unum | which is what you would have expected |
| 15:14.04 | clintberry | Do they still make birkenstocks? I just wear flip flops |
| 15:14.16 | fungus | mindjuju, Mac is about hipster/yuppie now. Not hippy artist. |
| 15:15.03 | mindjuju | don't hipster/yuppie require hair products,mainly styling gels or mousse ? |
| 15:15.20 | captbrogers | hair is so mainstream now |
| 15:15.23 | clintberry | if that what makes a hipster, then I guess I am a hipster |
| 15:15.35 | mindjuju | i know i've seen the uber hipster with a shaved head |
| 15:15.49 | mindjuju | 1. that's too much effort for me; 2. my head is lumpy |
| 15:16.53 | fungus | lol, Mac is an inclusive bunch, they'll take anyone these days, just don't say you actually like Windows. |
| 15:17.47 | mindjuju | that's easy, i've gotten to the point where i'm starting to loathe it. when steam switches over, my home will drop winders for a windows VM |
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| 15:22.29 | mahelious | fungus: ive heard the same thing about scientology. as long as you can pay |
| 15:23.37 | fungus | ... that makes me feel dirty now. comparing Mac to scientology? eww. |
| 15:23.56 | captbrogers | lol |
| 15:24.10 | captbrogers | ~stats lol |
| 15:24.15 | captbrogers | ~lol |
| 15:24.16 | ibot | it has been said that lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 15:24.39 | mahelious | ibots a grammar nazi? go figure |
| 15:24.55 | captbrogers | 'go figure' is not a complete sentence. |
| 15:25.59 | TuxToaster | Romney's convention promise: 'Jobs, lots of jobs' <--- reminds me of the Matrix, where Neo says "I need guns. Lots of guns." |
| 15:26.15 | kahlstrom | So, Romney = Neo? |
| 15:26.21 | captbrogers | TuxToaster: Now if only many many jobs rushed in from no where |
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| 15:27.11 | clintberry | 'go figure' is in imperative form :-) |
| 15:27.22 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: lol |
| 15:27.44 | TuxToaster | kahlstrom: no, just the way they keep phrasing the quote reminds me of it though. |
| 15:28.17 | kahlstrom | TuxToaster - darn, because it'd be cool to find out we were all in the Matrix. I'd love to hack the world. |
| 15:28.51 | captbrogers | I would have a cup that would never run out of Pepsi |
| 15:29.02 | hhatfield | ~jar me |
| 15:29.02 | ibot | hhatfield took the cookie from the cookie jar. "Who, me?", "Yes, you!", "Couldn't be!", "Then, who?" "mgeary !" |
| 15:29.27 | mgeary | taint me |
| 15:29.41 | hhatfield | ~jar mgeary |
| 15:29.41 | ibot | mgeary took the cookie from the cookie jar. "Who, me?", "Yes, you!", "Couldn't be!", "Then, who?" "jnbek !" |
| 15:30.08 | TuxToaster | kahlstrom: agreed. I just don't think you'd want Romney (or any other politician) having the kind of influence over the Matrix that Neo does... |
| 15:32.42 | captbrogers | But being in the Matrix would explain a few thing |
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| 15:36.32 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 15:36.33 | raifbot | moos at jnbek. |
| 15:36.45 | TuxToaster | $8ball do you bots have something against jnbek? |
| 15:36.45 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Very doubtful. |
| 15:38.40 | captbrogers | Today feels like one of those days that I just don't care to do anything |
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| 15:48.59 | mindjuju | captbrogers, i know what you mean |
| 15:52.27 | josePHPagoda | that's how most of my days feel :P |
| 15:52.50 | mindjuju | captbrogers -- this is for us - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hbp41_vlX0 |
| 15:52.59 | hhatfield | $8ball do you have a secret crush on jnbek? |
| 15:53.00 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is certain. |
| 15:53.06 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 16:13.14 | skinner | ~cake |
| 16:13.14 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, cake is a lie! and rick rolls people. |
| 16:18.34 | mindjuju | fungus, i've heard that you can upgrade all macs with a special version of mt lion |
| 16:18.45 | mindjuju | do you have to pay extra for it, what's it called? |
| 16:19.35 | fungus | I don't know what you are talking about. Unless you are referring to an older pre-release version. |
| 16:20.17 | mindjuju | oh maybe i'm thinking of something else, but i thought there was an OS upgrade you could buy like a site license for, for updating multiple macs |
| 16:20.19 | fungus | mindjuju, Mtn Lion is cheap, just pay for it. You can buy it once and install it on all your own computers. |
| 16:20.33 | skinner | Reflecting on captbrogers and josephscott's conversation earlier, I do wish I could go back to the time when I could watch videos on the internet without each one starting with a blasted commercial. |
| 16:20.35 | mindjuju | oh, that's what i'm looking for |
| 16:20.53 | mindjuju | when you download it, do you get a CD or something? |
| 16:21.50 | fungus | mindjuju, App Store |
| 16:22.04 | fungus | No CD, but you can make one yourself. |
| 16:22.32 | josephscott | mindjuju: buy it from app store, use usb flash drive to make an "install disk" |
| 16:22.44 | mindjuju | k |
| 16:23.08 | josephscott | $google mountain lion install from usb |
| 16:23.09 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=mountain+lion+install+from+usb -- http://9to5mac.com/2012/07/25/want-to-make-a-mountain-lion-usb-stick-or-sd-card-installer-heres-how/ -- http://www.informationweek.com/byte/howto/galleries/personal-tech/desktop-os/240005446 -- http://www.tonymacx86.com/61-unibeast-install-os-x-mountain-lion-any-supported-intel-based-pc.html |
| 16:24.41 | fungus | http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/how-to-create-a-bootable-backup-mountain-lion-install-disk/ |
| 16:24.54 | fungus | Thats the best one, includes both an App or homebrew |
| 16:27.35 | captbrogers | Man, I go to the bathroom, and so much has happened |
| 16:28.40 | captbrogers | By the way mindjuju, Linux is really similar. Except for not paying for it. You just download it and use it on all your computers |
| 16:29.09 | fungus | yup |
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| 16:53.35 | captbrogers | So |
| 16:53.38 | macnewbold | josephscott: is your macbook air your main work machine all day? Or is it just when you're on the road? |
| 16:53.39 | captbrogers | Lunch, what is the plan |
| 16:54.06 | josephscott | macnewbold: main machine, use it every where |
| 16:54.14 | josephscott | I've been pretty happy with it |
| 16:54.21 | macnewbold | nice |
| 16:54.32 | josephscott | definitely easier when traveling |
| 16:54.37 | macnewbold | i would have worried that the air's lack of ports, lower power, etc might not be as nice for a main box |
| 16:54.46 | macnewbold | smaller hard drive(s) too |
| 16:54.49 | josephscott | hoping it will actually be usable on my flight to San Diego in a few weeks |
| 16:54.53 | macnewbold | have you found any of those to be issues? |
| 16:55.01 | josephscott | nope |
| 16:55.10 | macnewbold | i don't see why it wouldn't - what's the battery life on the air these days? |
| 16:55.12 | josephscott | flash storage has been good |
| 16:55.24 | josephscott | I've gotten 7 hours out of it |
| 16:55.44 | josephscott | 8GB of RAM and 512GB of storage is enough for most of my needs |
| 16:56.16 | macnewbold | nice |
| 16:56.17 | josephscott | though keep in mind this replaced a 5+ year old macbook pro, so this was a big jump :-) |
| 16:56.21 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 16:58.09 | macnewbold | yeah, mine is an early 2011 MBP 15" currently. Prior was a 2010 MBP 17" (nice screen, too big/heavy overall) |
| 16:59.10 | fungus | wow, 2010 *and* 2011. you upgrade very year? |
| 16:59.28 | fungus | every* |
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| 17:10.42 | josephscott | not sure I want to wait 5+ years again for an upgrade, but I expect several good years out of this Air |
| 17:27.51 | josephscott | speaking of hardware - http://codeascraft.etsy.com/2012/08/31/what-hardware-powers-etsy-com/ |
| 17:31.00 | TuxToaster | my 15" dell precision M4300 was bigger and heavier than my 17" MSI |
| 17:31.27 | TuxToaster | and the 17" even had four speakers and a subwoofer in it |
| 17:31.28 | TuxToaster | :P |
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| 17:51.31 | mgeary | wow. Al Gore could pass as Commander Riker… http://cdn-media.nationaljournal.com/?controllerName=image&action=get&id=1955&format=homepage_fullwidth |
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| 17:56.04 | mindjuju | it's true that laws have lost their enforcement when it comes to governmental abuses of privacy, but this is a new low - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/31/law-enforcement-groups-back-drone-use-guidelines/ |
| 17:56.12 | mindjuju | not even giving us a law, we now get "guidelines" they'll follow |
| 17:56.21 | mindjuju | why even bother |
| 18:01.49 | Bikerdan | mindjuju: seriously. "You're under arrest! That's against the guidlines!" |
| 18:07.00 | macnewbold | fungus: no, i didn't upgrade every year - both work-owned laptops, at different employers |
| 18:07.08 | macnewbold | and no, i didn't switch to get a newer laptop |
| 18:07.31 | fungus | lol, I would. ;) |
| 18:07.34 | fungus | j/k |
| 18:08.06 | captbrogers | Bikerdan: I follow the pirate way, just because there are guidelines doesn't mean I have to follow them |
| 18:08.07 | macnewbold | yeah, how long you been with your current employer now? 5 years? and the previous was how long? |
| 18:08.30 | mindjuju | captbrogers, i was thinking the same thing |
| 18:08.41 | mindjuju | the Pirate Code, is really more of a set of guidelines |
| 18:08.48 | mindjuju | that quote goes something like that |
| 18:08.49 | macnewbold | (my comment ^^ was for fungus) |
| 18:09.51 | captbrogers | And secondly, you must be a pirate for the pirate's code to apply and you're not. And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. |
| 18:10.08 | mindjuju | oh that's it! |
| 18:10.11 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:13.00 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 18:13.01 | Bikerdan | nice |
| 18:13.02 | captbrogers | I'm thinking I may go get some Panda Express |
| 18:13.12 | captbrogers | Anyone up for it? |
| 18:13.44 | mgeary | ick |
| 18:13.54 | mgeary | i wish i could show you a picture of the beef i got there once |
| 18:13.58 | mgeary | wow, it was vile |
| 18:14.03 | mgeary | never again |
| 18:14.06 | captbrogers | I rarely get beef there |
| 18:14.13 | captbrogers | I mostly get the orange chicken |
| 18:15.46 | captbrogers | I just feel like getting some chinese food |
| 18:22.27 | captbrogers | No one? |
| 18:22.30 | captbrogers | Beuller? |
| 18:22.33 | captbrogers | Beuller? |
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| 18:24.17 | clondon | Just introducing my self. I'm Chris London php dev at Vivint |
| 18:24.30 | macnewbold | everyone together now: "Hi, Chris!" |
| 18:24.46 | macnewbold | oh, wait - wrong meeting |
| 18:24.58 | fungus | "Hi, Chris, it's been ... since my last ..." |
| 18:25.14 | macnewbold | ~fungus |
| 18:25.14 | ibot | from memory, fungus is Kinda smelly, but grows on you, or a ASCII guru, or an Okra fan, or the new hawtness, or a hip, or gaga for Gaga, or a disciple of Hoprah |
| 18:25.15 | captbrogers | Hi, my name is Brian. it's been 3 hours since my last cup of Pepsi |
| 18:25.27 | captbrogers | It hurts, so very bad. I need caffeine. |
| 18:25.34 | clondon | I guess you could say something like My name is Chris London and it's been 5 years since I've programmed .NET |
| 18:25.41 | macnewbold | woot |
| 18:27.32 | jsmith | Welcome clondon |
| 18:27.35 | jsmith | ~jsmith |
| 18:27.35 | ibot | rumour has it, jsmith is perpetually hungry, or the co-author of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony |
| 18:27.36 | captbrogers | Well, I just started a huge file download. No one want to meet in Orem/Provo for lunch? |
| 18:27.42 | skinner | ~skinner |
| 18:27.43 | ibot | skinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin. |
| 18:27.44 | captbrogers | jsmith? |
| 18:27.51 | captbrogers | ~captbrogers |
| 18:27.52 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, captbrogers is the anti-Mac, or failing, or afraid, or sometimes he feels a dislike towards his retinas |
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| 18:40.44 | mahelious | oh, this is rich. leasticoulddo is a "Verified fraudulent page or threat source". Good job catching the bad guys Trend-Micro |
| 18:44.58 | josephscott | it is a Milli Vanilli kind of Friday |
| 18:45.32 | herlo | lipsync Friday? |
| 18:47.15 | josephscott | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qTOkUPlGk |
| 18:47.47 | herlo | man, I loved that song in high school |
| 18:48.17 | josephscott | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReklDIQS-n8 |
| 18:50.44 | captbrogers | ~lart josephscott for wasting my precious, though useless brain cycles, with memories from the 90s |
| 18:50.44 | ibot | takes out josephscott with the trash for wasting my precious, though useless brain cycles, with memories from the 90s |
| 18:51.10 | josephscott | $save the late 80s early 90s |
| 18:51.11 | raifbot | runs into a burning building and saves the late 80s early 90s from certain death. Is that enough? |
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| 18:56.05 | mahelious | josephscott: do you remember when they guest starred on that sitcom, Sister Kate? |
| 18:56.22 | josephscott | no |
| 18:57.31 | mahelious | "after-school special" type sitcom with moral and lessons about a nun and her orphans. |
| 18:57.50 | mahelious | s/nun/hawt nun |
| 18:58.33 | mahelious | so in an episode where some kid claims his shoes were stolen so he can get a new pair of air jordans or something, mv show up at the end of the show and sing "blame it on the rain" |
| 18:59.38 | josephscott | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI |
| 18:59.46 | mahelious | i still consider that the day that sitcoms as a genre jumped the shark |
| 19:08.32 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:08.43 | captbrogers | $chuck-fact |
| 19:08.43 | raifbot | I bet Chuck Norris can't roundhouse kick me before I finish th...... |
| 19:16.06 | captbrogers | $chuck-fact |
| 19:16.06 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can watch DVD's on a VCR |
| 19:16.48 | TuxToaster | $lart Chuck |
| 19:16.48 | raifbot | blasts Chuck with a huge firehose then strangles Chuck with it. |
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| 19:55.43 | TuxToaster | http://www.tuaw.com/2012/08/31/cassette-to-ipod-converter-will-digitize-your-tapes/ |
| 19:55.47 | TuxToaster | seriously? |
| 19:56.43 | captbrogers | My fingers smell like garlic |
| 19:56.55 | skinner | from picking out belly button lint? |
| 19:56.58 | captbrogers | Thought you all wanted to know |
| 19:57.16 | captbrogers | Yes, I can't believe how bad your belly button was skinner. |
| 19:57.46 | skinner | that would be funny if... |
| 19:57.50 | skinner | ...i had one... |
| 19:57.55 | captbrogers | 0.o |
| 19:57.58 | skinner | i lost it somewhere |
| 19:58.02 | skinner | maybe you've seen it? |
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| 20:16.49 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: http://evanlong.info/projects/reeltoreel/ |
| 20:22.24 | TuxToaster | lol seen that one a while ago |
| 20:23.14 | ninnypants | seems like a cheaper way of doing it |
| 20:29.12 | unum | http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/hello-world-programming-languages-quiz-188874?quizkey=ba2042e498722ea10016a7703b8fe119 |
| 20:29.15 | unum | 14 out of 16 |
| 20:36.25 | ninnypants | though I think the real question is why did it have to reload the page every time |
| 20:37.48 | unum | because they don't know #2 |
| 20:38.18 | tierra | captbrogers: I assume you're going to have a (mostly) working WP plugin for your presentation coming up here... want to collaborate? I could take the exact same plugin, and tie in unit tests for it in the very next presentation slot |
| 20:39.42 | ninnypants | tierra: that's a cool idea |
| 20:39.51 | ninnypants | unum: yeah I guess so |
| 20:40.19 | captbrogers | Wait, what?! |
| 20:40.41 | tierra | I already told josephscott to schedule our presentations back-to-back |
| 20:40.53 | tierra | since they are very related on plugin dev |
| 20:41.19 | josephscott | WP Plugins and You, Learn How To Write One Now |
| 20:41.24 | fungus | Woot, 18/20 |
| 20:41.24 | mahelious | ugh, only 9 |
| 20:41.26 | josephscott | is followed up Testing Plugins |
| 20:41.50 | mahelious | one of these days i need to sit down and actually learn ruby/python/perl |
| 20:42.07 | fungus | Only missed Logo and Cobol. |
| 20:43.59 | captbrogers | I don't know, I'm not one to share my code... |
| 20:44.06 | fungus | mahelious, learning both ruby and python would be beneficial for sure. |
| 20:44.37 | tierra | captbrogers: ah, I was assuming you'd be presenting on a new "hello dolly |
| 20:44.39 | fungus | Those languages both tend to bend you toward new ways of thinking. |
| 20:44.41 | tierra | type of plugin |
| 20:44.58 | tierra | not presenting using actual code from a production plugin |
| 20:45.04 | captbrogers | tierra: I'm kidding. I have a _very_ basic form already in the wordpress plugin repo |
| 20:45.11 | tierra | heh |
| 20:45.21 | tierra | :) |
| 20:45.21 | captbrogers | http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-slider-captcha/ |
| 20:45.25 | captbrogers | I will be updating it soon |
| 20:46.07 | tierra | awesome, I keep an eye on that, and look at integrating tests on it |
| 20:50.56 | SunSparc | One of my favorite Captchas is the resistor on the Adafruit blog: http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/08/31/eben-at-poptech-raspberry-pi-piday-raspberrypi-raspberry_pi/ |
| 20:54.04 | TuxToaster | bah, I got 17 out of 20 |
| 20:54.13 | TuxToaster | but one of the answers apparently didn't select |
| 20:54.24 | TuxToaster | on the lisp one it says Your Answer: |
| 20:54.40 | TuxToaster | you'd think a programming quiz would have some validation lol |
| 20:55.56 | SunSparc | You would think that. |
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| 20:58.48 | TuxToaster | I feel better that I was close... I thought Scala was Java and Ada was Pascal |
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| 21:09.17 | carmony | is there a supernovia around here? |
| 21:09.29 | supernovia | Heyo, for a moment yes |
| 21:10.14 | supernovia | OKay I'm stepping AFK but ping me in pm |
| 21:11.12 | mindjuju | so fungus and all other mac users, i'm downloading something that i bought from the app store (via the mac app store) but i can't find where it is saving to on the filesystem |
| 21:11.44 | mindjuju | google says use spotlight, but when i do, it just says the name of the app that has it open, in this case app store download |
| 21:12.06 | mindjuju | i did find how to access terminal but searching has not been fruitful |
| 21:12.22 | fungus | mindjuju, /Applications is usually where it goes. |
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| 21:14.07 | mindjuju | thx fungus |
| 21:45.53 | herlo | quite quiet here |
| 21:57.20 | ninnypants | how's the conference herlo? |
| 21:57.33 | herlo | ninnypants: still going |
| 21:57.33 | Bikerdan | Which conference? |
| 21:57.48 | herlo | Bikerdan: LinuxCon |
| 21:57.51 | herlo | in San Diego |
| 21:57.53 | Bikerdan | Sweet |
| 21:58.22 | herlo | Bikerdan: yeah, as part of my new job, I came to meet the team! |
| 21:58.36 | herlo | ninnypants: how are things in Utah? |
| 21:58.41 | TuxToaster | herlo: new job? |
| 21:58.47 | Bikerdan | herlo: new job? |
| 21:58.58 | herlo | TuxToaster: Bikerdan; I am now a sysadmin for the Linux Foundation :) |
| 21:59.04 | TuxToaster | oh nice |
| 21:59.09 | Bikerdan | awesome |
| 21:59.15 | herlo | thanks |
| 21:59.17 | ninnypants | herlo: pretty good thinking I'm going to try to learn python tonight |
| 21:59.42 | herlo | ninnypants: coolio |
| 21:59.58 | herlo | sounds like tons of fun |
| 22:00.28 | TuxToaster | herlo: all remote work? or do they have a local presence? |
| 22:01.01 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah was actually glad to see you on. I was going to ask if this seemed like a good place to start for reading data from a webcam http://code.google.com/p/ctypes-opencv/ |
| 22:01.14 | herlo | TuxToaster: local presence where? |
| 22:01.23 | TuxToaster | in oootah :P |
| 22:01.31 | herlo | ninnypants: haven't done that.. |
| 22:01.36 | herlo | TuxToaster: just me now |
| 22:03.13 | TuxToaster | interesting |
| 22:04.29 | herlo | TuxToaster: I don't think Linux Foundation really thinks about it the same way I did about UTOS |
| 22:04.39 | herlo | it's more of a global presense about Linux and the kernel and such. |
| 22:06.57 | mindjuju | any ipod app makers in the house? |
| 22:07.20 | TuxToaster | depends... |
| 22:07.33 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 22:07.49 | mindjuju | so TuxToaster, when building apps, do you need some kind of sdk |
| 22:07.54 | mindjuju | or does xcode provide everything? |
| 22:08.00 | TuxToaster | yep. |
| 22:08.11 | mindjuju | i seem to be missing called libappService.a |
| 22:08.13 | TuxToaster | well the SDK is included in the download |
| 22:08.40 | mindjuju | it shows up in xcode as a link binary with libraries |
| 22:09.13 | TuxToaster | basically when you sign up for an Apple Dev account, they give you access to a portal, and you can grab the SDK and such from there, but it's often bundled with the latest Xcode |
| 22:09.43 | mindjuju | curious, i have the latest xcode, maybe i need to grab that separate for what ever reason |
| 22:09.45 | mindjuju | i'll look, thx |
| 22:09.46 | TuxToaster | the "link with libraries" is how you tie your app into the system libraries, like if you need to use location services or graphics libs for doing OpenGL, etc. |
| 22:09.57 | TuxToaster | normally if you have the SDK, you'll see two things |
| 22:10.32 | TuxToaster | when you do a new project, you'll see iOS templates to create apps... and you'll see the SDK version at the top when you go to run the app |
| 22:11.15 | TuxToaster | but without a paid developer account, you can only run stuff on the simulator on your Mac, it won't let you install to a device without being in the full program |
| 22:12.05 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: your new project window should look something like this http://cl.ly/image/1m38303b340j |
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| 22:16.29 | mindjuju | TuxToaster, getting you a pic of what i see, hang on quick sec |
| 22:16.47 | TuxToaster | kk |
| 22:16.49 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:16.49 | raifbot | keeps mailing romanovic free America Online CDs until he drowns. |
| 22:18.44 | mindjuju | TuxToaster - http://screencast.com/t/TWMp9JOQ5Oy |
| 22:19.15 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: did you take a picture of your screen... ? |
| 22:19.30 | mindjuju | yeah, i'm installing jing as we speak |
| 22:19.33 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:19.43 | mindjuju | with my work today, i've probably doubled my total Mac time |
| 22:20.07 | TuxToaster | IMO, better than jing for many things, is to install CloudApp and use the built in screenshot stuff on the mac |
| 22:20.33 | TuxToaster | (which, btw, is Command+Shift+3 to take the full screen, or Command+Shift+4 to select an area to shot) |
| 22:21.01 | mindjuju | so it looks like i don't have all the SDKs after all |
| 22:21.27 | TuxToaster | what version of Xcode is that? |
| 22:21.40 | TuxToaster | you might, but I think that might be an older version |
| 22:21.49 | TuxToaster | it's been a while since there were that few choices |
| 22:22.02 | mindjuju | xcode 4.4 |
| 22:22.14 | mindjuju | did i get old one? |
| 22:23.07 | TuxToaster | nope, that's the right one.. and the SDK should be included now from what I can tell |
| 22:24.12 | TuxToaster | hmm, I wonder why the templates are different |
| 22:24.19 | TuxToaster | but that should be enough to get you started at least |
| 22:24.49 | TuxToaster | oh, my bad... I was showing you the New File... dialog, not New Project... derp. |
| 22:25.46 | TuxToaster | so that's right. You pick the type of project you want to start (they're all similar, but it basically sets up a lot of the framework for you) |
| 22:30.05 | mindjuju | TuxToaster -- this is what i'm doing to open it - http://screencast.com/t/jNvg0MHXLRD |
| 22:30.11 | mindjuju | i'm not doing something wrong, am i? |
| 22:30.53 | TuxToaster | looks right to me |
| 22:31.11 | mindjuju | so i am just missing something |
| 22:31.22 | TuxToaster | I didn't realize you were trying to open an existing project :-) |
| 22:31.33 | TuxToaster | so what are you wanting to do ? it opened the project fine |
| 22:31.43 | mindjuju | any way to tell if i'm missing dev written source code or if this is a part of the sdk i'm missing |
| 22:31.52 | mindjuju | yup, i want to open project so i can compile for cydia |
| 22:32.29 | TuxToaster | it looks like it's missing a framework or file, the left side |
| 22:32.39 | TuxToaster | appService/appService.h not found |
| 22:32.51 | mindjuju | the weird thing i can't even search for that file |
| 22:32.57 | mindjuju | google doesn't say anything about it |
| 22:33.00 | TuxToaster | and in the middle where it says appService.a is missing (red) |
| 22:33.08 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:33.22 | mindjuju | but again on google it doesn't say if it's part of an sdk or anything |
| 22:33.34 | mindjuju | so weird that google doesn't provide info |
| 22:33.45 | TuxToaster | is this an open source project from somewhere? or somethign in house? |
| 22:33.53 | mindjuju | something in house |
| 22:34.11 | TuxToaster | so it's very likely that appService.a was a library that was built in house as well |
| 22:34.23 | mindjuju | k |
| 22:34.26 | TuxToaster | you can build your own lib, and then link to it from other projects |
| 22:35.02 | TuxToaster | guessing that's what happened here, you'd just need to get the appService.a file and put it in the same folder as the code |
| 22:35.21 | mindjuju | k, i'll get it from him |
| 22:35.27 | mindjuju | one last question if you don't mind |
| 22:36.05 | mindjuju | have you ever gone from xcode to .deb? looking at the project files, the files aren't organized as they are in a .deb i'm wondering if i have to do that manually? |
| 22:36.27 | TuxToaster | as far as being able to compile it for Cydia, I'm not sure how easy that will be -- I know at one point you had to use a completely separate development toolchain (usually on Linux rather than on a Mac) |
| 22:37.13 | mindjuju | hmm, i'm hosting the repo on an ubuntu server and have tested out other parts of the whole process there |
| 22:37.18 | mindjuju | i'm trying to do with the dev code now |
| 22:37.53 | mindjuju | thx for your help TuxToaster |
| 22:38.00 | mindjuju | ~tuxtoaster++ |
| 22:38.01 | TuxToaster | I haven't. .deb is basically a package file, but I'd assume there is probably a build script that can be run to organize the files. Xcode generates an .ipa file when you build the app for distribution, so I'd assume either that or the raw binary file would go into the deb |
| 22:38.05 | TuxToaster | no prob :-) |
| 22:40.09 | mindjuju | i wonder if i can set this up using git or something so that when they write upgrades to the app, i can just jump on linux, download the code and compile without needing a mac |
| 22:40.10 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: this is dated, but looks like it might be helpful also http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6788207/how-to-develop-an-app-for-cydia-and-jailbroken-iphones |
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| 22:40.23 | TuxToaster | mentions something called Theos that helps with the conversion |
| 22:41.10 | mindjuju | oh cool, i'll keep ypu posted on what i learn in case you need to do so in the future |
| 22:41.45 | TuxToaster | yeah if you're going to use Cydia you *should* be able to build it on linux with their toolchain, though I'm not sure how easy that is now. It used to be that the app had to be designed a certain way (like that post says, you couldn't use Interface Builder to design the UI or it would break, etc.) |
| 22:41.54 | TuxToaster | they may have found other ways by now though |
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| 23:41.07 | mindjuju | i feel like any access to the file system is prohibited in mbp |
| 23:41.11 | mindjuju | :( |
| 23:41.37 | ninnypants | mindjuju: what're you trying to do? |
| 23:42.08 | mindjuju | so i need to put a library where xcode is expecting it, from the preferences it says : |
| 23:42.54 | mindjuju | 14USERS/ME/LIBRARY/DEVELOPER/XCODE/DERIVEDDATA01 |
| 23:43.11 | ninnypants | ok |
| 23:43.17 | mindjuju | so i was emailed the files, but ihave them on the desktop |
| 23:44.07 | ninnypants | have you shown hidden files? |
| 23:44.17 | ninnypants | or you can just use the commandline |
| 23:44.34 | fungus | mindjuju, `chflags nohidden ~/Library` |
| 23:46.53 | mindjuju | thx |