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| 02:22.56 | bbtb1982 | I would like to set up virtual box on an external hdd using firewire800 with my mac. I would like to run windows and linux. is this a good idea or very difficult to do? |
| 02:23.32 | bbtb1982 | any suggested resources or tutorials to help me maybe do this? |
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| 02:51.14 | bbtb1982 | when an application is run. does it run as a user, group or other permission level? |
| 02:51.26 | bbtb1982 | *ran |
| 02:52.10 | bbtb1982 | I know this is a basic question but I always get confused as I've never received a definite answer. |
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| 14:32.33 | josePHPagoda | hello everyone! |
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| 14:37.37 | josePHPagoda | how's everything going here? |
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| 14:51.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone know why mysqld keeps restarting every time I take it down? |
| 14:52.53 | jsmith | safe_mysql, perhaps? |
| 14:52.56 | jsmith | How are you taking it down? |
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| 15:13.38 | macnewbold | woot! got registered for WordCamp today |
| 15:13.47 | captbrogers | 'bout time |
| 15:14.09 | jsmith | macnewbold: w00t! |
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| 15:22.21 | mahelious | august is the worst |
| 15:22.31 | mgeary | but April is the cruelest |
| 15:22.44 | captbrogers | and the ice is slippery |
| 15:22.49 | mgeary | eh? eh? reference? |
| 15:23.18 | captbrogers | T. S. Eliot? |
| 15:23.18 | mahelious | fraid its escaped me. |
| 15:23.28 | mahelious | didnt he write Cats? |
| 15:23.37 | mgeary | captbrogers: very good, but you didn't Google it, did you? ;) |
| 15:23.47 | mgeary | that's one of my favorite poems |
| 15:23.58 | captbrogers | No, that was Andrew Lloyd Weber that wrote cats |
| 15:24.16 | mgeary | captbrogers: i'm afraid mahelious is correct. ALW just adapted it and did the music |
| 15:24.17 | captbrogers | mgeary: google to verify, sorry |
| 15:24.31 | captbrogers | ah, well, didn't know that |
| 15:25.33 | carmony | utahcon: lol :P |
| 15:27.26 | mgeary | I will show you something different from either |
| 15:27.26 | mgeary | Your shadow at morning striding behind you |
| 15:27.27 | mgeary | Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you; |
| 15:27.28 | mgeary | I will show you fear in a handful of dust. |
| 15:39.12 | SunSparc | Maybe we should start charging people to visit our IRC room. :) |
| 15:39.43 | mindjuju | Roses are red, Bacon is also red, Poems are hard. Bacon. <-- josephscott |
| 15:41.00 | josephscott | ~bacon |
| 15:41.00 | ibot | i guess bacon is a filling substance which will make you even fatter than you already are... Take my advice, bacon is a food for the gods or for underweight models such as that McBeal chick... |
| 15:41.41 | SunSparc | ~mindjuju |
| 15:41.42 | ibot | from memory, mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals, or listens to celine dijon. DJ Nerd Magic, or can't tell toast from a pop-tart, or can beat a viper in a sedan, or a brony, or the music master |
| 15:41.51 | captbrogers | ~captbrogers |
| 15:41.51 | ibot | you are, like, the anti-Mac, or failing, or afraid, or sometimes he feels a dislike towards his retinas |
| 15:42.04 | mindjuju | that's true about the left eye being open when i sleep |
| 15:42.06 | captbrogers | Curse my retinas! |
| 15:43.07 | SunSparc | lol |
| 15:43.08 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: did you hear about the jury fun in the Apple v. Samsung case? |
| 15:44.44 | mahelious | hawt sitcom moms, oh yeah. |
| 15:45.12 | mahelious | like Suzanne Somers in Step By Step. |
| 15:45.29 | captbrogers | TuxToaster: Yes, and I hope a judge throws out the verdict then throws their gavel at Apple |
| 15:45.43 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 15:45.50 | TuxToaster | she needs two gavels IMO |
| 15:45.56 | TuxToaster | they both need them thrown |
| 15:46.54 | captbrogers | I find it so funny that in 1996 Steve Jobs touts that Apple shamelessly steals ideas from others and acts like that is just how the industry works. Then goes ballistic when Android is released. So very hypocritical |
| 15:47.48 | TuxToaster | yeah, thing is, that *is* how much of the tech industry in general works. |
| 15:48.14 | TuxToaster | that's why it's so stupid that there are all these patent lawsuits, and not just with Apple. |
| 15:48.52 | TuxToaster | this crap about Lodsys suing app developers for having a 'Buy Now' button in their apps is rediculous. |
| 15:49.37 | herlo | tbh, this was the best story about that lawsuit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/aug/29/apple-samsung-trucks-nickels-fake?newsfeed=true |
| 15:49.52 | herlo | albeit, the original $1billion in nickels was funnier |
| 15:50.39 | captbrogers | I agree, nothing is really new anymore. People copy each other in different ways. I have always disliked Steve Jobs as a person and thought that he felt that he was above everyone else. It is one reason that on principle alone I refuse to support Apple by buying anything from them. |
| 15:51.25 | herlo | captbrogers: but that just means you are not a sheeple |
| 15:51.54 | herlo | most people can buy into the craze and are amazed by literally the best marketer of the 21st century (so far) |
| 15:51.54 | TuxToaster | yup yup. Plus it makes it harder when you want to build something and someone else has done something similar before, or they've done it but stopped supporting it years ago |
| 15:51.58 | TuxToaster | but the patents are still valid |
| 15:52.49 | herlo | well, the US Patent system is old and broken. It isn't however, as broken as the 'software patents' part on its own. |
| 15:53.02 | TuxToaster | right |
| 15:53.28 | TuxToaster | product patents on physical devices aren't so bad, but they are awarded way too freely and vaguely |
| 15:53.49 | captbrogers | That is America's problem |
| 15:53.56 | TuxToaster | noone should be able to patent just the shape of a general type of device, or an idea of how a product works |
| 15:54.27 | captbrogers | We are like a small business that worked amazing as a start-up, but we're a big corporation now and many old policies are still in effect. So much is broken, but the machine still sort of runs |
| 15:54.36 | captbrogers | It won't be until we have a major break-down that things will change |
| 15:55.03 | captbrogers | Bu that break-down will be painful, and it will mean a lot of sacrificing by many people |
| 15:55.16 | TuxToaster | I had to agree that the early Galaxy tablets from Samsung looked like Samsung practically measured out the iPad and built a clone, but I don't even get where they are going on the other phones and such that are not that similar to Apple produts |
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| 15:57.09 | captbrogers | Oh I agree, there was a lot of things that made me think it was just a clone running Android. But I can't imagine that someone would look at a box that says "Samsung" and go, "this is an iPad, right? We aren't at an Apple store, and this box doesn't say 'iPad' or 'Apple' anywhere but I'm sure it's an iPad" |
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| 15:59.17 | tierra | jsmith: welcome back |
| 15:59.34 | jsmith | It's good to be back :-) |
| 16:00.06 | mgeary | herlo: i find it interesting that NOW "Apple people" are sheeple, when for years Mac users were the fringe nerd lunatics |
| 16:02.16 | mahelious | mgeary: maybe before jonathan ive (< 1998, i think) |
| 16:02.37 | captbrogers | mgeary: I can't wait until us Linux nerds become the sheeple |
| 16:02.44 | mahelious | but macs havent been weird or fringe since the imac |
| 16:02.57 | mgeary | uh, no. for years and years it was, "Oh, yeah, well Macs are fine if you're a designer or do 'creative' work, but if you do real work, you need a Windows machine" |
| 16:03.11 | mgeary | that has only changed in the last ~5 years |
| 16:03.59 | mgeary | it is still a dominant attitude among non-*nix users |
| 16:04.24 | mindjuju | you know, 8907/8908 times i think the US should retain control of the internet, it's doing just fine where it is, but then i think about stories like this and i start to wonder http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/435018/doj_drops_charges_against_websites_seized_17_months/#closeme |
| 16:05.05 | mindjuju | the real question is, would an international body do any better? |
| 16:06.24 | herlo | mgeary: the 'apple people' are not sheeple. It's the fans who bought into the fanatacism of the most recent mac craze. I think the hardware and software are much sleeker now. The old Apple IIc and IIe, for instance were awesome machines and very useful. |
| 16:06.59 | mgeary | fair nuff |
| 16:07.04 | herlo | the mac craze is due to marketing. And very good marketing at that... |
| 16:07.15 | captbrogers | I agree with that |
| 16:07.57 | herlo | and to apple's credit, they've got a nice product. Overpriced and not as powerful as it looks from the outside, but very sleek and sexy nonetheless and it works very well for its purposes. |
| 16:08.19 | captbrogers | The people that bug me most are the ones who are ill-informed and still try to act as though they are superior. I hate it when someone asks why I use Linux then try to say Mac can do it so much better |
| 16:09.06 | mgeary | the only reason i hate that is because why should someone else care what i use? |
| 16:09.27 | mgeary | but clearly because i use Macs, i do feel like Macs can do it better than Linux |
| 16:09.28 | mgeary | ;) |
| 16:10.16 | captbrogers | I honestly believe that part of the "User Experience" is what resonates with the user. Linux resonates with me, and no amount of slick UI can compensate for that. |
| 16:10.18 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:10.24 | herlo | I think it's about choice and 'best tool for the job'. With a big undertone to software freedom and floss first. |
| 16:10.48 | SunSparc | vim is better than emacs |
| 16:21.06 | mindjuju | wow, i never knew - nsfw on language -- swear word count found in linux kernel - http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/ |
| 16:22.07 | captbrogers | swear words that include penguin? |
| 16:22.37 | mindjuju | yeah, i wondered about that |
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| 16:24.50 | captbrogers | You...you...stupid...penguin! |
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| 16:32.07 | ninnypants | so those are in comments? |
| 16:36.32 | captbrogers | Yeah |
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| 16:37.55 | ninnypants | I wonder how much of it is insulting other developers code |
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| 16:59.04 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:59.05 | raifbot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at SunSparc. |
| 17:00.03 | SunSparc | ~mgeary TuxToaster |
| 17:00.03 | ibot | go do something useful |
| 17:00.03 | TuxToaster | too late |
| 17:00.03 | josephscott | $8ball did he raise shields in time? |
| 17:00.04 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 17:00.11 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:00.15 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 17:07.56 | mindjuju | anybody here know electricity? |
| 17:08.10 | mindjuju | specifically wiring and plugs? |
| 17:10.58 | SunSparc | mindjuju: What is the question about electricity? |
| 17:11.43 | mindjuju | hi sunsparc, i think i figured it out |
| 17:11.53 | mindjuju | i have a 120v 20amp plug |
| 17:12.10 | mindjuju | and i wanted to step it to something i coudl more readily use |
| 17:12.13 | mindjuju | this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000289B9Q/ref=asc_df_B000289B9Q2161522?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextagus0039188-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B000289B9Q |
| 17:12.16 | mindjuju | helps me do that |
| 17:14.09 | mindjuju | thx though |
| 17:18.52 | utahcon | ha... slapped him clean off the net |
| 17:22.57 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:25.32 | josePHPagoda | wow |
| 17:25.36 | josePHPagoda | utahcon, you have quite a slap |
| 17:25.52 | josePHPagoda | hi mindjuju |
| 17:25.54 | josePHPagoda | how are you doing? |
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| 18:15.13 | TuxToaster | ~sun-dried-tomatoes++ |
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| 18:24.18 | mindjuju | hello |
| 18:24.50 | mindjuju | sorry couldn't see who paged me for a sec, josePHPagoda, i'm here for about 5 minutes then i'll be off and on away from desk |
| 18:25.06 | josePHPagoda | ok |
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| 18:34.32 | mahelious | ha. sys admin just found out about the java zero-day. everyone must disable java and reboot asap. |
| 18:34.35 | mahelious | whee! |
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| 18:44.26 | TuxToaster | supernovia: I was going to tell you... I discovered that 1c of milk for a milkshake is a bad idea |
| 18:44.32 | TuxToaster | no matter how much you think you'll be making |
| 18:45.10 | supernovia | Yeaaah |
| 18:45.27 | supernovia | You can always thin it out |
| 18:45.34 | supernovia | but it's extremely hard to thicken it up |
| 18:45.57 | supernovia | depending on the flavor of milkshake you can add a bunch of frozen fruit to help it out |
| 18:46.14 | mindjuju | so mahelious, i've got to admit i've been under some pressure lately and not really paying attention to interwebs goings on, but reading about it briefly, it looks like a zero day found in the wild |
| 18:46.26 | TuxToaster | yup, so I found out... I tried adding extra ice cream, but it was still more like flavored milk |
| 18:46.36 | mindjuju | looks like java 7.7 released today addresses some (?) / all (?) issues ? |
| 18:46.51 | mindjuju | anybody have any other info on this? |
| 18:47.24 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: it was all over the other day... last I heard they said it could be a couple of weeks to see a fix |
| 18:47.45 | mahelious | http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/636312 |
| 18:47.54 | mahelious | this is the link getting passed around here. |
| 18:48.04 | mindjuju | TuxToaster - this is 15 min old talking about java patch out today |
| 18:48.05 | mindjuju | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/261671/does_oracle_patch_for_java_7_fix_the_zeroday_flaw.html |
| 18:50.23 | mindjuju | cert article posts that java 7 7 update addresses issue |
| 18:52.18 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: yeah that was quick |
| 18:54.55 | captbrogers | So I know I'm late to this, but I wanted to let everyone know about this one time I made milkshakes |
| 18:55.30 | captbrogers | My yard had all these guys in it, they kept telling me how much better mine was than others |
| 18:55.47 | knicholes_ | Did they DRINK IT UP? |
| 18:55.55 | captbrogers | They kept asking how I was able to make it so well, but I told them I'd have to charge |
| 18:56.46 | captbrogers | knicholes_: I want to run up to one of my friends when they have one, yell, "I drink it up!" then suck down as much as I can |
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| 19:26.16 | mahelious | captbrogers drank my milkshake once... |
| 19:26.18 | mahelious | ONCE. |
| 19:27.15 | captbrogers | Well, it was one wicked bad ice-cream headache |
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| 20:12.09 | captbrogers | john_anderson...Mr...Anderson... |
| 20:12.19 | john_anderson | :) |
| 20:12.28 | captbrogers | I need your opinion |
| 20:12.39 | captbrogers | Best place to learn Lithium besides the docs? |
| 20:13.35 | john_anderson | there's a number of example apps that are probably helpful |
| 20:13.41 | john_anderson | as are the many plugins on github |
| 20:13.51 | john_anderson | also hang out in #li3 - we try to be as responsive as we can in there |
| 20:14.35 | john_anderson | there's a rewrite of the manual here, though it's a WIP, it's more complete in places: https://github.com/UnionOfRAD/manual/tree/restructure |
| 20:14.42 | john_anderson | also feel free to reach out to me directly |
| 20:15.19 | captbrogers | Thanks |
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| 20:48.49 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:48.49 | raifbot | forces mahelious to use Outlook Express. |
| 20:51.34 | mahelious | This aggression will not stand! |
| 20:51.48 | mahelious | Donny you're out of your element! |
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| 20:54.01 | captbrogers | A duel is the only way to settle this matter |
| 20:54.33 | mahelious | ? |
| 20:55.04 | captbrogers | You being forced to use Outlook Express |
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| 20:59.45 | SunSparc | Duel! |
| 21:00.48 | josephscott | return of Dr. Horrible? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118058455 |
| 21:01.02 | mindjuju | SunSparc, i do believe you are right. It appears mahelious has been gloveslapped - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na45Nus6c00 |
| 21:01.12 | mindjuju | too bad video isn't allowed online :( |
| 21:01.38 | mahelious | The Dude doesn't duel, dude. |
| 21:01.56 | mahelious | The Dude abides. |
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| 21:02.58 | mahelious | also, if Nathan Fillion isn't a random shield agent come Avengers part 2, i will be terribly disappointed. There may be tears. |
| 21:04.42 | mindjuju | so the article doesn't say it's coming out soon, it just says Joss is busy and they plan to start it soon |
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| 21:05.14 | mindjuju | same message we were given like 3yrs ago :( |
| 21:05.23 | SunSparc | josephscott: That would be wonderful! |
| 21:05.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju: lol |
| 21:06.52 | SunSparc | I will believe it when I see it. Though I would still prefer they continue the Firefly series, ignoring the movie. |
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| 21:32.28 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 21:32.28 | ibot | beats Monnok into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 21:32.31 | SunSparc | $rlart |
| 21:32.31 | raifbot | overclocks itimber until itimber burns out. |
| 21:32.58 | SunSparc | ~ibot fight raifbot |
| 21:32.58 | ibot | ACTION laughs as raifbot reboots c-76-27-42-247.hsd1.ut.comcast.net sending sunsparc into the aether |
| 21:33.27 | itimber | ~lart raifbot |
| 21:33.27 | ibot | whacks raifbot upside the head |
| 21:33.58 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:34.02 | itimber | :-) |
| 21:36.13 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:36.13 | raifbot | puts peno through a wood chipper. |
| 21:36.24 | TuxToaster | ~ibot fight |
| 21:36.24 | ibot | ACTION winds up and belts gshipley right in the nose! ouch! |
| 21:36.34 | TuxToaster | so apparently that's random |
| 21:36.41 | TuxToaster | ~fight |
| 21:36.41 | ibot | ACTION winds up and belts ibot right in the nose! ouch! |
| 21:36.45 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 21:37.32 | SunSparc | Like Russian Roulette. |
| 21:37.41 | SunSparc | ~roulette |
| 21:37.41 | ibot | ACTION watches sunsparc pull the trigger: Click! |
| 21:39.07 | TuxToaster | that's what makes $rlart fun. |
| 21:39.22 | TuxToaster | plus, ibot cheats at roulette |
| 21:39.32 | SunSparc | Yeah |
| 21:39.37 | SunSparc | ibot: you cheat |
| 21:39.43 | TuxToaster | ~roulette ibot |
| 21:39.43 | ibot | ACTION watches ibot pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 21:39.48 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:41.44 | SunSparc | ~meow |
| 21:41.44 | ibot | jbot: woem |
| 21:42.33 | mahelious | omg, ibot has an evil twin! |
| 21:42.44 | mahelious | theres even an evil goatee on there. sorta. |
| 21:43.49 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:52.22 | TuxToaster | ~hbot |
| 21:52.25 | TuxToaster | ~jbot |
| 21:52.25 | ibot | jbot is, like, a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass, or ibot's stupid cousin |
| 21:52.34 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 21:57.48 | SunSparc | ~ibot |
| 21:57.48 | ibot | it has been said that ibot is not a help system |
| 21:58.04 | skinner | ~ibot why? |
| 21:58.04 | ibot | Because! |
| 21:58.06 | skinner | ok |
| 21:58.27 | SunSparc | ibot: when? |
| 21:58.47 | skinner | Maybe he's thinking... |
| 21:58.48 | SunSparc | ibot: when will I be a millionaire? |
| 21:59.00 | SunSparc | Overloading her circuits. |
| 21:59.09 | SunSparc | ibot: what is your middle name? |
| 21:59.09 | ibot | methinks your middle name is GNU |
| 21:59.21 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:00.36 | TuxToaster | ~explode |
| 22:00.36 | ibot | BOOOM |
| 22:01.20 | skinner | ~skinner ibot |
| 22:01.20 | ibot | ACTION buries ibot in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 22:03.29 | SunSparc | ~fernpee skinner |
| 22:03.40 | SunSparc | ~fernpee |
| 22:03.41 | ibot | ACTION whistles for BigDrink, the 180-lb Labrador Retriever with the 40-gallon bladder, to relieve himself on that fern over there in the corner... |
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| 22:06.13 | SunSparc | ~piglatin TuxToaster |
| 22:06.33 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:06.40 | TuxToaster | ~piglatin UxToastertay |
| 22:06.51 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 22:08.03 | SunSparc | airsupply raifbot |
| 22:08.10 | SunSparc | ~airsupply raifbot |
| 22:08.10 | ibot | ACTION takes raifbot by the hand, hunkers down on one knee, gazes fondly into raifbot's eyes, and croons, "'cause you're every woman in the world to meeeee...." |
| 22:08.51 | TuxToaster | lol |
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