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| 02:27.32 | hTrevyn | I am currently using mysql to store iptables rules. A 1 min cron to write the configs and reconfig iptables |
| 02:27.41 | hTrevyn | I want real time database/rules |
| 02:27.43 | hTrevyn | any suggestions? |
| 02:29.47 | carmony | how are you writing to the database? |
| 02:32.50 | carmony | you could write a php script that runs continuously and polls some sort of table/field and when you make a change you increment that field and the worker script could reconfig iptables |
| 02:44.39 | hTrevyn | carmony: thats not a bad idea |
| 02:44.49 | hTrevyn | I was writing to the DB from PHP |
| 02:44.58 | hTrevyn | but I just got an idea from a friend |
| 02:45.09 | carmony | sounds good |
| 02:45.11 | hTrevyn | I can just execute the iptables command directly to iptables |
| 02:45.34 | hTrevyn | using exec, or a remote listener |
| 02:45.46 | hTrevyn | i just did some php ssh2 stuff that could work also |
| 02:45.56 | hTrevyn | for remote firewall configurations. |
| 02:46.13 | hTrevyn | carmony: thats for listening, and your suggestion |
| 02:46.28 | hTrevyn | the kicker was that I didnt know you could send 1 off rules real time to iptables :P |
| 02:46.36 | hTrevyn | learned something new today |
| 03:06.28 | carmony | cool cool |
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| 03:46.06 | josephscott | $rlart |
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| 04:21.49 | carmony | $lart josephscott |
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| 04:22.01 | herlo | lol |
| 04:22.02 | josephscott | $lart carmony |
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| 04:22.27 | carmony | :P |
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| 14:28.42 | Utah_Dave | morning! |
| 14:29.42 | mindjuju_ | meh |
| 14:30.27 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju_: I missed Whopper Wednesday yesterday. All my co-workers wanted to go to Subway. :( |
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| 16:20.36 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:20.36 | raifb672 | chops Monnok in half with a free AOL CD. |
| 16:22.42 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 16:22.43 | raifb672 | Chuck Norris has all the No. 1 pencils. |
| 16:23.58 | mgeary | wow. really? "Britain will not allow Assange safe passage out of UK" |
| 16:24.51 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I promise, it was a coup. A smart coup that prevented you from eating a yucky thing called a Whopper. |
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| 16:31.45 | mindjuju | tempting - http://us-shop.bergcloud.com/ |
| 16:37.06 | herlo | interesting. Why is it tempting? |
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| 16:39.22 | mindjuju | i think i could use it |
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| 16:50.49 | Utah_Dave | thanks, herlo. I'm glad you're looking out for my health :) |
| 16:51.20 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: what does it do? |
| 16:52.11 | Utah_Dave | prints out people's tweets for you? |
| 16:54.39 | herlo | Utah_Dave: anytime :) |
| 17:03.18 | mindjuju | Utah_Dave, i think it prn anything on android |
| 17:03.57 | mindjuju | i'm actually thinking though of getting a transformer (/me makes the sound of the transformers from the 80s cartoon) |
| 17:04.04 | mindjuju | not sure who makes it |
| 17:05.05 | mindjuju | totally a first class problem, i recognize and admit it, but it's frustrating to boot up the laptop and it takes for ever and hard to read off of at night |
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| 17:07.24 | mindjuju | anybody here do iphone jailbreak |
| 17:11.54 | Utah_Dave | I got a buddy that does. Replaces screens, fixes 'em |
| 17:12.30 | mindjuju | oh sorry, i figured out the question, i was wondering how to become an app store if they are jailbroken |
| 17:12.41 | mindjuju | but it sounds like cydia is the app store, and you can list yourself as the repo |
| 17:12.50 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 17:12.51 | mindjuju | at which point the q is, what does it take to be a repo |
| 17:13.16 | mindjuju | we now have 30 ipod devices that need to have custom built software, i think this is the best way to do it |
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| 17:23.13 | Utah_Dave | you don't want to try to get it in the app store? |
| 17:23.37 | Utah_Dave | I think a developer can side load software on a certain number of devices without the appstore |
| 17:26.01 | josephscott | yep, can side load for internal stuff |
| 17:26.05 | josephscott | this might also help https://testflightapp.com/ |
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| 17:29.49 | carmony | vpns, wireless, and wired connections are the death of my constant connection :P |
| 17:29.50 | carmony | to irc |
| 17:30.21 | josephscott | all wireless all the time :-) |
| 17:30.33 | carmony | I'd do that |
| 17:30.38 | carmony | but our wireless here kinda stinks |
| 17:31.04 | josephscott | your a manager, get a minion to fix it ;-) |
| 17:34.00 | carmony | pffft, I don't have minions, I have awesome devs who I don't want to pull away from getting great work done to fix silly wireless :P |
| 17:35.01 | josephscott | then do the next best thing, make it so that the CEO's iphone can't connect to the wireless anymore, then he can bump it up to top priority for you :-) |
| 17:35.10 | carmony | rofl |
| 17:35.13 | herlo | carmony: cross department minions anyway :) The devs don't work on wireless, that's likely internal support |
| 17:36.02 | herlo | it's funny how when the CEOs stuff doesn't work, it's a top priority. Even if it is just an annoyance for most of the company |
| 17:36.34 | josephscott | that said, I'd consider stable, usable wireless at work fairly critical |
| 17:39.59 | TuxToaster | josephscott: lol |
| 17:40.50 | TuxToaster | herlo: yeah, even after we color coded cables at one job we left a specific color for anything going to the CEO's office |
| 17:42.13 | herlo | haha |
| 17:42.32 | herlo | josephscott: oh, I'm not arguing with that, it just clearly doesn't apply to everyone. |
| 17:49.02 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 17:49.02 | raifb672 | Chuck Norris does not hunt because the word hunting infers the probability of failure. Chuck Norris goes killing. |
| 17:51.05 | SkinnerLaptop | I has question |
| 17:51.34 | SkinnerLaptop | Has anyone ever worked on a UI that contained a table where the cells worked similar to excel/google docs? |
| 17:51.53 | mindjuju | that add and sort? |
| 17:52.06 | SkinnerLaptop | I'm working on a project where the UI has some tables. The user can add custom columns, and the content of the cells will contain calculation formulas. These formulas may contain numbers or pointers to other cells in the table. |
| 17:52.12 | josephscott | SkinnerLaptop: like http://warpech.github.com/jquery-handsontable/index.html ? |
| 17:52.45 | SkinnerLaptop | I'm supposed to create the table(s) in the database that will store the formulas in the cells that have these 'calculations' |
| 17:52.58 | josephscott | though I don't think it supports formulas yet |
| 17:53.16 | mindjuju | SkinnerLaptop, sounds like a replacement for google apps? |
| 17:53.26 | SkinnerLaptop | basically |
| 17:53.31 | SkinnerLaptop | but we can't use google apps |
| 17:53.44 | josephscott | that should be simple |
| 17:53.48 | SkinnerLaptop | it's the Gradebook UI for BYU |
| 17:53.57 | josephscott | because everyone can rewrite a google apps clone over a weekend |
| 17:54.24 | SkinnerLaptop | let instructors add a "calculation column" that lets them do averages for that row |
| 17:54.28 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: I was tasked with recreating Google Calendar all by myself. |
| 17:54.47 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I'll get right on that. |
| 17:54.50 | josephscott | haha |
| 17:55.04 | SkinnerLaptop | the question isn't so much UI, but database.....storing these formulas |
| 17:56.18 | mindjuju | and how to validate a formula whilst filtering out naughty stuff |
| 17:56.24 | mindjuju | woof, that sounds hard |
| 17:56.28 | mindjuju | glad its you not me |
| 17:56.36 | mindjuju | limh, sorry bro |
| 17:57.32 | SkinnerLaptop | I'm thinking: {{tokenA}} + 12 / {{tokenB}} * ( {{tokenC}} - {{tokenD}} ) + 2 |
| 17:57.38 | SkinnerLaptop | where tokens are cell id's |
| 17:57.48 | SkinnerLaptop | then let the UI figure it out |
| 17:57.51 | SkinnerLaptop | hahaha |
| 17:58.10 | fungus | mindjuju, just run eval() on the input from the user. Then they can use PHP syntax for the formulas. ;) |
| 17:58.41 | mindjuju | love it |
| 17:58.55 | josephscott | ~evil fungus |
| 17:59.40 | fungus | There couldn't possibly be anything wrong w/ that. |
| 17:59.46 | fungus | right? |
| 18:04.15 | ninnypants | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvNhsWMU0c |
| 18:11.16 | mgeary | can i just summarily delete a nginx cache directory? do i then need to restart nginx? |
| 18:13.51 | mindjuju | ninnypants, that's too awesome |
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| 18:44.40 | ninnypants | mindjuju: yeah too bad it wasn't actually NASA |
| 18:45.40 | herlo | mgeary: yes |
| 18:47.02 | mgeary | herlo: i fixed my issue. Turns out there was a "new" directory on the machine that had a *newer* version of the code. that is what was being served. gah |
| 18:47.20 | herlo | mgeary: doh! |
| 18:47.26 | mgeary | i can usually look at the config files and see that, but it was using gunicorn, and i'm not familiar with that |
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| 18:58.41 | TuxToaster | what's gunicom? |
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| 19:16.34 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 19:16.34 | raifb672 | blames uxp for all the evil in the world. |
| 19:34.56 | TuxToaster | woo... just found out I get to upload batch transactions to a payment provider using SOAP. |
| 19:35.55 | uxp | SOAP isn't half as bad as that damn bot hilighting my nick 3 times a week. |
| 19:36.09 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:38.32 | josephscott | TuxToaster: you should ask for hazard pay :-) |
| 19:38.59 | TuxToaster | that would be funny to explain to HR |
| 19:39.12 | TuxToaster | "What? He wants hazard pay because we have soap in the bathrooms?" |
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| 20:12.09 | carmony | any UTOS peeps here? |
| 20:12.16 | carmony | maybe mindjuju |
| 20:13.51 | macnewbold | sup carmony |
| 20:14.30 | macnewbold | ~announce UPHPU Meeting tonight! 7pm @ C7 Bluffdale, Basho folks talking about Riak, afterparty at applebees |
| 20:14.51 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 20:14.51 | ibot | moos at macnewbold |
| 20:15.00 | carmony | what kind of weak lart is that |
| 20:15.03 | carmony | $lart macnewbold |
| 20:15.04 | raifb672 | hereby declares macnewbold a troll. |
| 20:15.10 | carmony | meh, not much better |
| 20:15.11 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Meeting tonight 8/16 − 7pm @ C7 Bluffdale, Basho folks talking about Riak, afterparty at applebees |
| 20:15.15 | macnewbold | ~troll carmony |
| 20:15.15 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares carmony a troll |
| 20:15.29 | macnewbold | ~frenchtaunt mindjuju |
| 20:15.29 | ibot | ACTION summons the french taunter! You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms! |
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| 20:38.13 | mindjuju | josephscott - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhEYvOYceNs&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 20:38.17 | mindjuju | carmony, what up |
| 20:38.48 | josephscott | mindjuju: I totally saw that yesterday, was exciting! |
| 20:38.57 | mindjuju | yeah huh! |
| 20:39.01 | josephscott | they had another game that was supposed to be the TA successor |
| 20:39.09 | mindjuju | supcom ? |
| 20:39.09 | josephscott | only played it a few times, didn't really have the same feel |
| 20:39.14 | josephscott | yeah |
| 20:39.14 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to check it out |
| 20:39.26 | mindjuju | oh, so it wasn't good? |
| 20:39.32 | josephscott | TA for me was exactly the right balance for an RTS |
| 20:39.49 | josephscott | I still fire it up on a Windows XP box in my office sometimes :-) |
| 20:40.44 | mindjuju | yeah, way good times |
| 20:43.39 | mindjuju | hey carmony, i'm stepping away again, PM me or SMS |
| 21:05.47 | tierra | SC needed a little polish, but I think they nailed it in SC 2 |
| 21:06.43 | macnewbold | okay, that's awesome |
| 21:07.20 | macnewbold | i didn't ever see/play/hear of total annihilation but this looks awesome |
| 21:07.27 | macnewbold | they still have the $15 early bird, too |
| 21:08.42 | josephscott | macnewbold: if you have access to a windows box drop everything you are doing and go to http://www.gog.com/gamecard/total_anihilation_commander_pack now |
| 21:08.57 | josephscott | $6 for TA, 1GB download |
| 21:09.01 | macnewbold | me? access to a windows box? |
| 21:09.02 | josephscott | old game, but totally worth it |
| 21:09.08 | macnewbold | i have virtual box, i guess that might work? |
| 21:09.21 | macnewbold | will it run on windows 7? |
| 21:09.31 | josephscott | that site says it does |
| 21:09.45 | josephscott | I use an old WinXP box to spin up TA |
| 21:10.10 | tierra | I've run it in Win7 |
| 21:10.34 | josephscott | I feel a TA LAN party coming on :-) |
| 21:15.40 | macnewbold | dude |
| 21:15.43 | macnewbold | i would be all over that |
| 21:20.53 | josephscott | hehe, because dragging around a WinXP Dell desktop in the trunk is something I just don't do often enough :-) |
| 21:37.18 | macnewbold | you could always host... |
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| 21:41.26 | josephscott | there are some game networks that still support TA |
| 21:42.58 | mindjuju | that's so 20th century |
| 21:43.14 | mindjuju | himachi ftw |
| 21:43.24 | mindjuju | or shoot, we could pfsense openvpn it |
| 21:45.35 | ninnypants | mindjuju: that would never work you have to cram everyone in on small hot room or it isn't a real LAN party |
| 21:45.59 | mindjuju | yeah, that's true, no pizza |
| 21:46.08 | mindjuju | no laughing and scoffing at your victims |
| 21:46.26 | mindjuju | it's a good thing we're not talking HL : Deathmatch, cause i woudl smoke you boys |
| 21:49.16 | mindjuju | any way, it was 2 guys, one on the other's shoulders in a trench coat, and i think the skin was called thebigdawgs or meninblack |
| 21:49.18 | mindjuju | something like that |
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| 22:22.34 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 22:22.34 | raifb672 | "The only thing we have to fear is Chuck Norris himself." - Franklin D. Roosevelt |
| 22:22.46 | josephscott | $8ball will everyone stop using MySQL after tonight? |
| 22:22.47 | raifb672 | josephscott - Outlook not so good. |
| 22:25.44 | TuxToaster | josephscott: why would they? |
| 22:27.36 | josephscott | tonight is the Riak talk, perhaps it will be really persuasive :-) |
| 22:27.52 | jsmith | TuxToaster: Because there are more superior alternatives than I can count on one hand? |
| 22:28.30 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: I'm looking forward to the talk tonight. I've been looking at Riak for a little while now. Seems pretty awesome. |
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| 22:29.02 | josephscott | yeah, I'm hoping to learn plenty about Riak tonight |
| 22:29.32 | carmony | mindjuju: nvm |
| 22:29.33 | carmony | :P |
| 22:31.08 | beandog | fungus: you around |
| 22:34.11 | josephscott | ~bring carmony to UPHPU tonight |
| 22:34.22 | carmony | I would, but I have a hot date tonight |
| 22:34.37 | josephscott | bring her along ;-) |
| 22:34.55 | carmony | haha, we're going to see RiffTrax Live |
| 22:35.13 | josephscott | oh, neat |
| 22:35.43 | carmony | its at the movie theaters |
| 22:36.36 | josephscott | yep |
| 22:38.21 | carmony | so someone will have to take notes for me |
| 22:39.21 | josephscott | we'll just dump the notes in the irc channel, so you can read the logs :) |
| 22:49.26 | carmony | okay |
| 22:49.30 | carmony | its it a bunch of larts though |
| 22:50.49 | josephscott | that way you get the feel of what it is like to actually be there |
| 22:50.53 | carmony | lol, okay |
| 22:51.00 | carmony | I'll download it |
| 22:51.11 | carmony | and time delay replay it |
| 22:51.19 | carmony | so I can really FEEL the time pass by |
| 22:52.18 | josephscott | you could do it at double speed |
| 22:52.26 | josephscott | just imagine us talking like chipmunks |
| 22:53.17 | carmony | I'll get my mac to text-to-speach it |
| 22:53.20 | carmony | at double speed |
| 22:54.16 | TuxToaster | $lart carmony |
| 22:54.17 | raifb672 | slaps a compatible dib on carmony's head. |
| 22:54.22 | macnewbold | ~lart TuxToaster |
| 22:54.23 | ibot | squishes TuxToaster like a bug |
| 22:54.27 | TuxToaster | josephscott: new larts? |
| 22:54.54 | josephscott | not lately, but if you have some I'll add them |
| 22:55.06 | TuxToaster | I just didn't recognize the compatible dib one |
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| 22:56.16 | josephscott | $lart TuxToaster |
| 22:56.16 | raifbot | does a little 'dpkg -P TuxToaster' action. |
| 22:56.23 | carmony | $lart josephscott |
| 22:56.24 | raifbot | squishes josephscott like a bug. |
| 22:56.34 | josephscott | $mindtrick carmony |
| 22:56.34 | TuxToaster | $lart macnewbold |
| 22:56.34 | raifbot | (jedi hand wave) carmony move along. |
| 22:56.35 | raifbot | steals macnewbold's mojo. |
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