| 00:00.07 | mindjuju | hmm, i thought they might be different when i was starting to have difficulty |
| 00:00.41 | mindjuju | so here is why i thought it might be possible |
| 00:00.47 | fungus | the S/MIME uses same tech as SSL in https:// |
| 00:00.53 | mindjuju | i'm using GNU privacy Assistant |
| 00:01.15 | fungus | Heh, yet another asymmetric key system. |
| 00:01.32 | fungus | SSH, GPG (PGP), SSL are each different |
| 00:01.52 | mindjuju | sounds like i need a basic primer on cryptology? |
| 00:02.09 | mindjuju | maybe i'll start with wikipedia |
| 00:02.42 | mindjuju | but just for a short answer then fungus, they are different and can't be cross applied, like the key i use for email, CAN'T be used for ssh |
| 00:02.45 | mindjuju | different type of key |
| 00:02.46 | fungus | Each of those methods implement asymmetric crypto using private and public keys, they just each do it in different ways. |
| 00:02.53 | fungus | exactly |
| 00:02.54 | mindjuju | k, i understand |
| 00:03.06 | mindjuju | i'll look around for a primer, thx fungus |
| 00:03.13 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 00:06.16 | tierra | I think it's actually possible to generate a GPG key for use with enigma and also do a conversion to PEM format for use with ssh, but really I don't see the point in doing so... just maintain two different keys |
| 00:06.31 | tierra | they're for two different purposes anyway |
| 00:06.45 | tierra | if one is compromised, at least you still have the other |
| 00:08.05 | tierra | one suggestion (I'm not sure if this works): |
| 00:08.11 | tierra | $ gpgsm -o secret-gpg-key.p12 --export-secret-key-p12 0xXXXXXXXX |
| 00:08.19 | tierra | $ openssl pkcs12 -in secret-gpg-key.p12 -nocerts -out gpg-key.pem |
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| 14:57.36 | TuxToaster | ~waffles |
| 14:57.36 | ibot | make waffles && make syrup && fork(waffles) |
| 14:57.40 | TuxToaster | LOL |
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| 15:07.32 | captbrogers | So, what's the deal with Backbone.js? |
| 15:12.32 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: as in, what is it? or was there some recent news about it? |
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| 15:30.48 | mindjuju | hey Sunsparc, got a minute? |
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| 15:42.52 | ninnypants1 | anyone installed Mountain Lion yet? |
| 15:43.10 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Sure. |
| 15:43.12 | TuxToaster | I did, about a month ago |
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| 15:43.13 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 15:43.44 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I thought about getting the preview but never did |
| 15:43.50 | ninnypants | how is it? |
| 15:43.52 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Anything cool to make it worth the upgrade? |
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| 15:44.09 | TuxToaster | personally I like the way notifications are handled |
| 15:44.42 | TuxToaster | things like calendar reminders show up in the corner now and you can close or snooze them |
| 15:44.57 | mindjuju | so Sunsparc, i'm trying to get my bearing on how much summer time study my child should be having, and thought i'd ask dads that i know |
| 15:45.00 | TuxToaster | I haven't really used Messages yet.. since I'm not a fan of iMessage |
| 15:45.39 | TuxToaster | you can mirror your display via AirPlay, though I was already doing that with an app, now it's just built in |
| 15:45.48 | TuxToaster | other than that, many of the changes are under-the-hood |
| 15:46.06 | ShunkyDave | minjuju, summer time study? |
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| 15:46.37 | mindjuju | he's on summer break, i think he should have some learning |
| 15:46.46 | ShunkyDave | how old? |
| 15:46.50 | ninnypants | http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/25/technology/451-error-censorship/index.htm |
| 15:46.50 | mindjuju | 9 |
| 15:47.10 | ShunkyDave | take him to the library |
| 15:47.11 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah notifications stuck out to me looked like a good way of handling them |
| 15:47.18 | ShunkyDave | my wife and I take our kids weekly during the summer |
| 15:47.30 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: our kid just went back to school this morning actually. Summer vacation was only 4 weeks |
| 15:47.39 | ShunkyDave | have him check out 3-4 books, and tell him he'll replace them again in a few weeks |
| 15:47.47 | ShunkyDave | best thing to keep the mind moving is to read |
| 15:47.52 | mindjuju | we do the same ShunkyDave |
| 15:47.57 | mindjuju | i'mjust thinking on top of that |
| 15:48.19 | ninnypants | mindjuju: if you have a free day or two you could always go to one of the state or national parks and do the Jr Ranger stuff |
| 15:48.21 | mindjuju | maybe i'd feel better if one of the books was non-fiction |
| 15:48.22 | TuxToaster | but basically we made sure he kept doing the ~30min/day reading, we didn't have him do a lot of work on top of that |
| 15:48.56 | ninnypants | mindjuju: http://www.nps.gov/learn/juniorranger.cfm |
| 15:48.58 | josephscott | ninnypants: any official word on the WP meetup for tonight? |
| 15:49.24 | mindjuju | ninnypants, that's pretty interesting |
| 15:49.26 | ninnypants | josephscott: I've confirmed time and place but it doesn't seem like Dustin has sent out the email |
| 15:49.30 | mindjuju | might hit 2 or 3 birds with one stone |
| 15:49.42 | ninnypants | josephscott: I know Mike has a presenter |
| 15:49.52 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Study during the summer!? What nonsense is this? :) |
| 15:49.53 | josephscott | ok, we should get something sent out asap |
| 15:50.07 | SunSparc | My kids study minecraft. |
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| 15:50.38 | captbrogers | ~lart real-estate-agent |
| 15:50.38 | ibot | forces real-estate-agent to use Outlook Express |
| 15:50.42 | ninnypants | josephscott: yeah I'll get with Dustin, and if all else fails we can still do the WordCamp planning there |
| 15:51.04 | mindjuju | SunSparc, maybe i should teach Corban some of the advanced redstone |
| 15:51.25 | SunSparc | mindjuju: That would be educational. |
| 15:51.29 | mindjuju | i think i saw your kiddos doing some fun stuff with it |
| 15:51.49 | SunSparc | Yeah, that have made some interesting things. |
| 15:52.00 | SunSparc | I think required reading every day is a good idea. |
| 15:52.22 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I remember liking the jr ranger stuff when I was a kid |
| 15:52.27 | mindjuju | you know who is great at redstone stuff is supernovia 's boy |
| 15:52.45 | SunSparc | Oh yeah? Is he on the server? |
| 15:53.05 | mindjuju | i offered, but no :( |
| 15:53.14 | mindjuju | <hint hint> |
| 15:53.14 | supernovia | I don't think he's on _the_ server. He only plays at his dad's |
| 15:53.22 | supernovia | I don't know much about it, tbh :S |
| 15:53.46 | SunSparc | I think my kids have learned more about life through minecraft than through any other source. |
| 15:53.58 | supernovia | He and Mary are inheriting the imac though so they'll have something to play on at home if you want to ping me with setup details |
| 15:54.15 | supernovia | (which I will just forward on to Ethan.. :-p) |
| 15:54.38 | Bikerdan__ | SunSparc: like how to butcher cattle, and grow your own wheat? |
| 15:54.47 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 15:54.51 | mindjuju | and how not to use TNT |
| 15:54.54 | SunSparc | Bikerdan__: yeah :) |
| 15:54.56 | Bikerdan__ | :) |
| 15:55.04 | Bikerdan__ | Real survival skillz. |
| 15:55.10 | SunSparc | lol |
| 15:56.15 | mindjuju | what about you supernovia, what summer time learning your kiddos doing? |
| 15:56.18 | Bikerdan__ | Never trust a zombie. |
| 15:56.50 | supernovia | Both of them dig khanacademy and codeacademy as well as just tinkering around on their own |
| 15:56.56 | supernovia | but the only thing I'm making them do, because I'm a mean mom that way, |
| 15:57.03 | supernovia | is five-minute freewrites in the morning |
| 15:57.14 | mindjuju | hmm, freewrites |
| 15:57.17 | mindjuju | that could be good |
| 15:57.21 | supernovia | they have to write without putting down the pen for five minutes. any topic. |
| 15:57.46 | supernovia | since writing is where they both struggle most |
| 15:58.01 | supernovia | also, since I freaking love reading what they have to say ;-D |
| 15:58.18 | SunSparc | Entertaining, I am sure. |
| 15:58.20 | Bikerdan__ | I bet they write some great stuff. |
| 15:58.25 | supernovia | It's great stuff. |
| 15:58.41 | Bikerdan__ | Plus it will be fun to look back on in 15 - 20 years. |
| 15:58.41 | supernovia | It's a great way to capture the age they're in. I love it. |
| 15:59.13 | supernovia | Exactly. Ethan wrote something about "Have you ever really wanted to build something but just couldn't get the materials? Like that time I wanted to make a bell, but had no metal. Or that other time when I couldn't find what I needed to create a perpetual energy generator." |
| 15:59.22 | ninnypants | supernovia: I've actually been thinking about doing freewrites myself |
| 15:59.29 | Bikerdan__ | lol |
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| 15:59.55 | supernovia | Warms my geeky heart. :-D |
| 16:00.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:00.05 | ninnypants | supernovia: you need to get him those materials for the perpetual energy generator |
| 16:00.10 | supernovia | I know, right? |
| 16:00.15 | ninnypants | could come in handy |
| 16:00.23 | Bikerdan | Seriously. Before some other kid does it. |
| 16:00.51 | supernovia | :-D |
| 16:00.53 | ninnypants | but without the crazy |
| 16:01.34 | supernovia | well he is a smarty for sure :) I'd love to get him some more stuff to tinker with. |
| 16:02.11 | supernovia | at least to find out for himself about how things do and don't work. He's a sweetie. |
| 16:02.11 | mahelious | take the crazy out of tesla and you end up with edison. |
| 16:02.24 | supernovia | Alright, I gotta split - see you guys on the flipside :) |
| 16:02.36 | mahelious | just like taking the lsd out of jobs and you end up with a ballmer. |
| 16:02.53 | ninnypants | heh |
| 16:03.15 | supernovia | maeeeekkkke oneeee |
| 16:03.21 | supernovia | er, maaaaakkkeee oneee |
| 16:03.22 | mindjuju | i don't think i've seen Jobs sweat as much |
| 16:03.27 | supernovia | and that is all for now. Seeyas :) |
| 16:03.32 | mindjuju | so that'd be LSD and sweat glands |
| 16:03.40 | mahelious | ninnypants: building one from kit, or buying one complete? |
| 16:04.25 | mahelious | eh, lsd and cancer kept him skinny. if he been cancer free for 20 years he would have gotten fat and sweaty too |
| 16:04.37 | ninnypants | mahelious: either way really I've been wanting to learn to work with arduino and things like that |
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| 16:05.04 | ninnypants | I would probably pick up the kit from make |
| 16:06.21 | herlo | the reprap is pretty nice. I've seen it in action at least a few times |
| 16:07.22 | herlo | http://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap |
| 16:09.09 | mindjuju | hmm, self-replicating machines, does that mean it'll get a job at whopper king to earn the money for the parts it needs to build itself, and then build itself? |
| 16:13.46 | ninnypants | herlo: didn't that have a kickstarter going a while back? |
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| 16:18.05 | herlo | dunno |
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| 16:58.38 | ninnypants | Anyone else sign up for Bank Simple? https://www.simple.com/ |
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| 17:02.33 | mindjuju | looks interesting |
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| 17:02.45 | mindjuju | i like ing direct (formerly netbank) |
| 17:03.03 | ninnypants | mindjuju: yeah I really liked the idea something like 2 years ago just barely got accepted today |
| 17:03.18 | mindjuju | ah |
| 17:03.34 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: yeah, I got an email yesterday |
| 17:03.35 | ninnypants | from what I'm seeing it's a lot like having Mint built into your bank's website |
| 17:03.38 | TuxToaster | haven't actually tried it yet |
| 17:04.18 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah guess my card is in the mail. You have to actually apply to see if you're accepted |
| 17:05.41 | ninnypants | I like that they map your transactions and have worked really hard to give actual company names instead of what other places like zions bank gives you |
| 17:06.12 | TuxToaster | I think I'll stick with America First. |
| 17:06.42 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I thought about trying them, but never ended up doing it |
| 17:06.45 | TuxToaster | the company names would be nice, but they're annoying when wrong |
| 17:06.51 | ninnypants | from what I've heard they're really good |
| 17:07.55 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah mint clasified some of my visa card payments as home depot payments so I called and went through a bunch of crap with HD then got off the phone and found out they'd been named wrong |
| 17:08.21 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 17:08.34 | TuxToaster | oi |
| 17:09.26 | ninnypants | yeah the HD people where very unhelpful actually and the first person I talked to was actually somewhat insulting |
| 17:13.50 | ninnypants | they took my money didn't apply it to my account and then charged me a penalty for it, and when I called them on it and had to fight with support to get it taken care of they didn't refund any of the fees or anything like that |
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| 17:24.42 | skinner | ninnypants: I just installed a sprinkler system and during the purchase of the parts, the HD employees that were over the irrigation department didn't know squat |
| 17:25.17 | skinner | ok....maybe a little squat.....but not what I would consider plumbing basics |
| 17:28.49 | ninnypants | skinner: yeah I've found Low's to be more helpful |
| 17:29.36 | TuxToaster | yup yup |
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| 17:29.55 | ninnypants | I've been meaning to cancel my credit card I have with them but am a little worried about the hit to my credit score of dropping a $6,000 line |
| 17:30.20 | macnewbold | ninnypants: why would closing a credit line (by your choice, not theirs) drop your credit score? |
| 17:30.21 | ninnypants | especially since my credit has dropped by around ~100 points from dealing with them already |
| 17:30.36 | ninnypants | macnewbold: because I have less credit available to me |
| 17:31.05 | mindjuju | ~credit macnewbold |
| 17:31.24 | ninnypants | macnewbold: it's something weird with how the credit equation works it's partially based on how much credit you have available to you and how much of it you've used up |
| 17:31.42 | ninnypants | though that depends on whether or not I'm remembering correctly |
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| 17:45.55 | mgeary | how bleeding edge is Ubuntu 12.04? |
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| 17:48.05 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: scroll down to the package table http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu |
| 17:50.49 | SunSparc | Looks like it is a couple months old. |
| 18:03.30 | mgeary | seems to have issues with mysql starting out-of-the box |
| 18:08.44 | skinner | So....my wife is teaching my 5 year old daughter to read. One story was called "lots of cars" and the guy had lots of cop cars. A second story was called "lots of pots", they read that title and took a break. During the break my daughter makes up a joke: "Why did the police car with lots of pots cross the road?"..............the answer: "To get in your teeth". I know it doesn't make sense, but she's developing her sense of humor. After hearing about this, I w |
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| 18:08.57 | mindjuju | hey fungus, have you ever put a VNC server on an ipod device? |
| 18:09.20 | mindjuju | just to clarify, i don't want to VNC into a server, i want to VNC into the ipod |
| 18:09.29 | fungus | No, that sounds weird |
| 18:09.51 | mindjuju | so the big picture on this project is that they want to VNC into the ipod for training purposes |
| 18:10.08 | mindjuju | now, i've already told them the few times i've seen recordings of the ipod, it's always been a camera overhead shot |
| 18:10.09 | fungus | training? who needs training to use an iPod? |
| 18:10.13 | mindjuju | but they just want to see if it is possible |
| 18:10.14 | fungus | idiots? |
| 18:10.24 | mindjuju | no, it's a proprietary app on the ipod |
| 18:10.58 | mindjuju | i think all the things that are out there are VNC viewers, not servers |
| 18:11.00 | fungus | Oh, an iPod Touch running iOS. that's wildly different |
| 18:11.13 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: are they just trying to make a video? |
| 18:11.23 | mindjuju | but i was thinking that if the ipod was jailbroken, then might be possible |
| 18:11.25 | mindjuju | DtD, yup |
| 18:11.27 | fungus | mindjuju, look at airplay stuff |
| 18:11.29 | mindjuju | just want to screen cap |
| 18:11.53 | fungus | mindjuju, just screen caps or full video? |
| 18:11.54 | DexterTheDragon | wouldn't they be able to open the app in the simulator and use desktop recording software? |
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| 18:12.19 | mindjuju | i thought that too, i'll have to see if that'll work for them |
| 18:12.30 | mindjuju | i wonder if the ipod outs to HDMI |
| 18:13.33 | ninnypants | mindjuju: have you looked at Display Rec. in the app store? |
| 18:13.44 | mindjuju | looking now ninnypants |
| 18:14.00 | ninnypants | I did a couple training videos for clients with that |
| 18:14.08 | ninnypants | you can even record voice as you're doing it |
| 18:14.27 | mindjuju | ninnypants - here is training video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFzMS4U7JDk |
| 18:14.46 | mindjuju | kiddo teaching sounds like maybe 10? got to love tech |
| 18:17.00 | ninnypants | yeah kind of crazy |
| 18:19.09 | mindjuju | hmm, i think it might have been taken off the itunes store ninnypants |
| 18:19.13 | mindjuju | http://www.appolicious.com/tech/articles/12383-display-recorder-makes-brief-appearance-in-itunes-app-store-or-did-it |
| 18:20.16 | ninnypants | I'll have to make sure not to remove it then |
| 18:20.23 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:20.44 | ninnypants | though if you're jail breaking you could probably get it off an alt app store |
| 18:20.54 | mindjuju | yeah, looks that way |
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| 18:34.06 | mahelious | I have a HUGE squirrel trapped in my window well |
| 18:34.36 | mahelious | stupid git must have fallen down and keeps jumping at the sides hoping to get out |
| 18:34.49 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:35.18 | TuxToaster | could make for some good ICHC pics |
| 18:35.21 | mahelious | i put a broomstick down hoping he'd climb out, but atm he's eyeing it like it carries the plague. must have left my smell on it |
| 18:35.27 | mahelious | ichc? |
| 18:36.26 | TuxToaster | icanhascheezburger.com |
| 18:43.00 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 18:43.00 | raifbot | Chuck Norris has already been to Mars; that's why there are no signs of life. |
| 18:44.25 | mindjuju | i've noticed that netflix was starting to become a bottom feeder, now i'm starting to worry http://news.yahoo.com/netflix-moves-away-movies-end-epix-deal-152433156.html |
| 18:44.42 | mindjuju | oh well, it'll make it easier to boycott MPAA |
| 18:49.49 | mahelious | mindjuju: netflix was old news the day they announced Flixster... |
| 18:50.16 | mahelious | amazon prime, otoh, has been a pleasant surprise |
| 18:50.24 | mindjuju | what venue do you use to watch movies over roku or other internet |
| 18:50.25 | mindjuju | ah |
| 18:50.33 | mindjuju | i'venever heard of otoh, i'll look into that |
| 18:52.02 | mahelious | "on the other hand" :) |
| 18:52.54 | mahelious | i might get back into netflix if their rumored original programming ever comes through. arrested development ftw |
| 18:53.53 | TuxToaster | bah... I hate replying to list emails sometimes... I meant to reply to the list on that encoding issue earlier, but accidentally replied directly. |
| 18:54.11 | captbrogers | TuxToaster: I do the same thing, and I hate it |
| 18:56.28 | TuxToaster | yup. I usually keep my reply to all by default, but my lists are on a separate email |
| 19:00.54 | macnewbold | mahelious: they have original programming now (only one I know of is Lillyhammer, which i didn't really like) |
| 19:02.21 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 19:02.22 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
| 19:02.36 | macnewbold | nice |
| 19:02.41 | macnewbold | classic bot-on-bot violence |
| 19:02.43 | mindjuju | that's illegal in some states |
| 19:03.31 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 19:18.04 | captbrogers | But enjoyed by all |
| 19:20.48 | fungus | y |
| 19:21.36 | fungus | someday I'll invent a way to make window focus change w/ my mind |
| 19:55.43 | TuxToaster | fungus: one sec. |
| 19:56.22 | TuxToaster | fungus: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-07-21/ |
| 19:57.49 | fungus | hehe, nice |
| 19:58.40 | TuxToaster | so, presumably, if you're thinking about two different apps at the same time, bad things could happen |
| 20:05.07 | fungus | I used to enable "focus follows mouse", it enabled some really cool possibilities. But recent desktops made this feature harder to enable, so I have been training myself away from it. |
| 20:05.38 | TuxToaster | yup, I used to love that |
| 20:06.03 | TuxToaster | drove people nuts when I'd answer an IM behind another window while they were looking at something |
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| 20:06.30 | fungus | Yeah, was pretty cool. I kinda miss that. |
| 20:07.12 | TuxToaster | on some desktops (Enlightenment was one I think I did it with) you could even make it so full clicks and everything wouldn't raise the focus unless you clicked in the titlebar |
| 20:07.59 | fungus | That's interesting, but for my usage/workflow it would be worse |
| 20:09.06 | TuxToaster | I found it to not be bad, I usually used alt+tab more frequently than clicking in another window to change focus |
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| 20:49.25 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 20:49.25 | ibot | slams peno against a large cement Tux |
| 20:49.33 | mindjuju | oops! not peno |
| 20:49.41 | mindjuju | ~lart ibot |
| 20:49.42 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of mindjuju's pants |
| 20:49.49 | fungus | lol |
| 20:51.00 | peno | :1 |
| 20:51.07 | peno | er. |
| 20:59.33 | herlo | man, I love cleaning day! :) |
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| 21:27.32 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 22:04.29 | wps | boo |
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| 22:44.30 | Bikerdan | Does anybody have any recommendations for an internet provider in Lehi? |
| 22:45.29 | herlo | um, Xmission and UTOPIA? |
| 22:45.49 | herlo | otherwise, you are stuck with the lame ones like the rest of us |
| 22:45.58 | Bikerdan | Is UTOPIA in Lehi? I thought I read otherwise. |
| 22:46.26 | john_anderson | Bikerdan: I have rapidwave in AF and they're not bad. Not sure if they cover Lehi. |
| 22:46.29 | mindjuju | yeah, even in cities where UTOPIA IS present, you may be stuck with le sux |
| 22:47.04 | mindjuju | i'm not bitter, really, i'm not |
| 22:47.33 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 22:47.49 | peno | utopia ends about 1 mile north of where I live. >.< |
| 22:47.58 | mindjuju | painful |
| 22:48.28 | peno | aye |
| 22:48.37 | mindjuju | so frustrating |
| 22:48.49 | Bikerdan | I just checked UTOPIA and apparently they're not available in the location that I was checking on. |
| 22:49.18 | mindjuju | reminds me of herlo and his condo or mgeary |
| 22:49.36 | mindjuju | both had UTOPIA at their finger tips, but landlords wouldn't allow |
| 22:50.32 | Bikerdan | Apparently Veracity Networks is available... |
| 22:50.46 | Bikerdan | Lame |
| 22:51.19 | mindjuju | that reminds me, i need to talk to the Orem City Counselman that happens to be a close neighbor |
| 22:51.30 | mindjuju | he's against UTOPIA, i want to understand why |
| 22:51.56 | Monnok | mindjuju: its because the internet is evil |
| 22:52.13 | mindjuju | no, generally he says that private industry should pay |
| 22:52.20 | Monnok | at least, thats what my grandmother-in-law says |
| 22:52.22 | Bikerdan | Some want to keep Internet services provided by the private sector. UTOPIA is a municipality |
| 22:52.28 | mindjuju | i was going to ask him if shipping companys should pay for our high ways and streets |
| 22:52.45 | mindjuju | but you know |
| 22:52.47 | mindjuju | less snarky |
| 22:53.22 | peno | the internet is only useful for naughty things, so I can see why he'd be against utopia. |
| 22:53.31 | Monnok | lol ^^ |
| 22:53.36 | mindjuju | if you can justify public road systems in your head, then you've no arguement for public infrastructure |
| 22:53.39 | herlo | Bikerdan: I don't know if it's in Lehi or not |
| 22:54.14 | mindjuju | i wish Bikerdan hadn't mentioned veracity networks, i went to their site to check pricing and this is what i get back |
| 22:54.16 | Bikerdan | herlo: They have a page to check availability and apparently it's not in the location I was wondering about. |
| 22:54.19 | mindjuju | http://residential.veracitynetworks.com/Utopia/internet-only-utopia-connection.html |
| 22:54.27 | herlo | mindjuju: My condo issue was more about the idiots in the HOA as oppose to not being able to get UTOPIA. |
| 22:54.36 | mindjuju | they want a 2yr contract for 60/60??? freakin sign me up at that price for 10yrs! |
| 22:54.42 | mindjuju | that's FREAKIN AWESOME |
| 22:54.51 | herlo | it could have saved them a few $k a month, but they weren't willing to put in any upfront money |
| 22:55.15 | herlo | mindjuju: lol |
| 22:55.40 | mindjuju | herlo, that's nuts, i don't get a 10th that speed at double the cost |
| 22:55.57 | mindjuju | where's my counselman, i want to have words with him |
| 22:56.25 | mindjuju | just my luck though, he's not for public road system and then i won't have as much to argue with him |
| 22:56.34 | herlo | mindjuju: but 60/60?? wow, that's awesome! |
| 22:56.44 | mindjuju | i know |
| 22:56.46 | mindjuju | i'm bitter |
| 22:56.51 | mindjuju | grrrr |
| 22:56.55 | mindjuju | painfully bitter |
| 22:57.24 | mindjuju | yipes, i'm late! i got to go out to the warehouse to upgrade a server, bbl |
| 22:57.45 | herlo | ciao sir |
| 22:58.18 | peno | silly mindjuju, remote upgrades are where it's at. |
| 23:00.28 | herlo | peno: ain't that the truth |
| 23:02.24 | peno | indeed |
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