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| 15:00.08 | mindjuju_ | you around DtD? |
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| 15:09.26 | ibot | Good to see you, fungus back! |
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| 15:32.15 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 15:32.15 | raifbot | calls Heartsbane on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home. |
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| 15:50.25 | captbrogers | I'm pretty dangerous. I run with scissors, I ride a motorcycle, and I don't use sudo, just plain root. |
| 15:53.57 | herlo | ~kill captbrogers |
| 15:53.58 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-proton gun at captbrogers |
| 15:54.18 | herlo | we can't have people being so careless as to not use sudo! |
| 15:55.20 | captbrogers | I also don't look at explosions that I cause. I walk in the opposite direction |
| 15:55.28 | DexterTheDragon | “We only need a root shell and that’s it. That’s how real men do things” - Linus Torvalds |
| 15:56.57 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: lol |
| 15:56.59 | herlo | lol |
| 15:57.02 | herlo | @ DexterTheDragon |
| 15:57.44 | captbrogers | That's Linus and me, wearing leather jackets and sunglasses no matter where we are. Always making James Dean look like a wuss. |
| 15:58.12 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: so I assume the answer to the question 'I still have a job with Divergent Logic', but why is divergent logic closing its office? |
| 15:58.22 | herlo | captbrogers: I'd say leather jackets and assless chaps! |
| 15:58.39 | captbrogers | Those chaps are for my wife and I only, I don't wear them in public anymore |
| 15:58.53 | herlo | captbrogers: um, all chaps are assless.... |
| 15:59.12 | captbrogers | Well, I'm not sure why people always have to specify why they lack the ass part then |
| 15:59.21 | captbrogers | Shouldn't they just be 'chaps'? |
| 15:59.22 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: there's a few reasons, but basically nobody was using it, everyone was working remotely so we got rid of it |
| 15:59.41 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: figured, so you still got a job there, I take it? |
| 15:59.50 | herlo | that was my guess as well |
| 15:59.50 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 16:00.01 | herlo | captbrogers: oh, it just sounds more fun :) |
| 16:02.24 | captbrogers | herlo: I don't disagree. And it is awesome to think about him and I standing on some lonely desert road in front of some very manly looking motorcycles, an explosion going off in the back, and we both say, "Linux, f--- yeah." as the explosion dies down. |
| 16:02.56 | captbrogers | Now that I've completely derailed the room, anyone used backbone before? |
| 16:05.08 | herlo | captbrogers: um, I was just referring to the 'assless' part of chaps, but I could go for what you are saying as well. |
| 16:05.17 | herlo | though in my mind, it's me and Linus... |
| 16:05.24 | herlo | :) |
| 16:05.59 | fungus | herlo, in my mind, the phrase assless chaps means chaps w/o pants underneath |
| 16:06.26 | herlo | fungus: lol, well there's that... |
| 16:06.58 | herlo | and in that case, it would be chaps worn *as* pants |
| 16:07.13 | fungus | true |
| 16:08.15 | herlo | lol |
| 16:08.16 | herlo | http://m.collegehumor.com/picture/6618947/extreme-do-not-disturb-nap-whiteboard |
| 16:08.23 | captbrogers | herlo: I generally have the same notion as fungus |
| 16:08.42 | herlo | aye |
| 16:17.24 | TuxToaster | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pXMEyLbIA |
| 16:25.36 | captbrogers | So my wife said she'd make this for me for the coming winter: http://www.geekalerts.com/u/Optimus-Prime-Transformer-Hat.jpg |
| 16:27.51 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:31.11 | influx | Rad. |
| 16:32.53 | herlo | lol |
| 16:32.54 | herlo | nice! |
| 16:40.36 | captbrogers | I'm going to put it on one day and in my best Optimus voice I'm going to say, "Kids, roll out!" and then run out the door with my kids. It will be epic to me. |
| 16:43.52 | herlo | lol |
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| 18:03.35 | captbrogers | Anyone have a recommendation for a wireless router of g/n with 8 port gigabit switch built in? |
| 18:04.48 | herlo | anythign bug cisco/linksys :) |
| 18:06.45 | beandog | mmm |
| 18:06.46 | beandog | percona |
| 18:07.01 | beandog | ~stuff++ |
| 18:09.05 | captbrogers | herlo: come again? |
| 18:09.23 | herlo | you asked for a wireless router |
| 18:09.31 | herlo | I suggested not using cisco/linksys |
| 18:09.33 | herlo | s/bug/but/ |
| 18:10.45 | beandog | what? |
| 18:10.47 | beandog | why not? |
| 18:10.54 | beandog | they make good stuff |
| 18:11.17 | herlo | heh, they make it cheaply/poorly now |
| 18:11.25 | beandog | really? |
| 18:11.32 | captbrogers | ah, but. I was a little confused |
| 18:11.36 | beandog | man my old linux one has been a rock. |
| 18:11.43 | beandog | I've had it for like 5 years, and it's still going strong. |
| 18:11.46 | herlo | the old stuff was very hackable and good. But they've recently make some changes. Porbably a couple years ago |
| 18:11.57 | beandog | wrt54gl I think is mine |
| 18:12.00 | beandog | Find one of those if you can |
| 18:12.08 | beandog | It'll cost ~$100 but it's worth it |
| 18:12.11 | beandog | only 4 ports though |
| 18:12.12 | beandog | -_- |
| 18:12.18 | beandog | no, that's not the right model # |
| 18:12.20 | beandog | anyway |
| 18:12.21 | beandog | whatevs |
| 18:12.27 | mahelious | i thought cisco was still fairly premium, but linksys has been crap ever since they got acquired |
| 18:12.35 | macnewbold | the older linksys stuff is fine/good, imho, but I haven't tried the recent stuff |
| 18:12.36 | beandog | that sucks |
| 18:12.39 | beandog | :( |
| 18:13.13 | mahelious | for consumer use ive found d-link to be great, but 8-port im guessing means business use |
| 18:13.27 | herlo | mahelious: cisco owns linksys last I checked |
| 18:13.53 | macnewbold | yeah, they do now |
| 18:14.34 | beandog | ~acquire mahelious |
| 18:16.59 | mahelious | herlo: sure, cisco acquired them and turned them into the "cisco-value" line. the celeronon of networking. |
| 18:17.11 | herlo | yup |
| 18:17.13 | mahelious | s/celeronon/celeron |
| 18:17.19 | herlo | cisco is fine, just expensivive |
| 18:17.53 | beandog | lol |
| 18:17.58 | beandog | "the celeron of networking" |
| 18:18.00 | captbrogers | mahelious: nope. Going to have a home network setup with four to six network cameras, a media server, a home dev server, a TV and a computer. I can put the one computer and TV on wireless cards, but I need something that can handle a high load of cameras sending images to a server, my kids watching a movie on the TV that is streaming from the media server, and my wife and I using internet at the same time |
| 18:18.04 | beandog | that's the best description I've ever heard |
| 18:18.27 | beandog | you could always get an apple router |
| 18:18.29 | beandog | but I hate those things. |
| 18:18.35 | captbrogers | never |
| 18:18.59 | captbrogers | I refuse to use apple stuff. I want this thing to be compatible with linux on all machines except my wife's computer |
| 18:18.59 | TuxToaster | celeron == techy name for celery |
| 18:19.29 | mahelious | captbrogers: would make more sense (imho) to have a simple four-port wireless, and then a wireless bridge just for the cameras |
| 18:20.12 | captbrogers | It would be easier, but I'm paranoid. I'd rather keep them wired so people can't just sit in a car out in the street and pick up the signal |
| 18:20.23 | captbrogers | I'm going to be buying a lot of ethernet |
| 18:20.35 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: technically.. Apple's routers do a decent job of being compatible with all clients, aside from the airport utility to manage them. But I don't really like them either. |
| 18:21.16 | captbrogers | TuxToaster: I have no doubt they are decent hardware, but I have a very opinionated principle of not working with apple products if I can help it at all |
| 18:27.14 | captbrogers | $rlart TuxToaster |
| 18:27.15 | raifbot | gives uxp an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending uxp to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple. |
| 18:27.26 | captbrogers | ~lart TuxToaster |
| 18:27.26 | ibot | beats TuxToaster to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 18:27.57 | beandog | uh |
| 18:28.09 | beandog | what? |
| 18:28.15 | beandog | TuxToaster: compatible with clients? |
| 18:28.26 | beandog | aside from the airport utility ... what is there? :) |
| 18:30.43 | TuxToaster | beandog: I just meant that when I've been on networks that have used them, I've not ran into anything where they didn't work properly because it was a Windows or linux machine connecting. Haven't ever owned one though. |
| 18:33.40 | Bikerdan__ | Anyone here live in Lehi? |
| 18:37.50 | captbrogers | Here is a visual layout of what the setup will be when I'm finished. I know it will be expensive, could be a few thousand when I'm done |
| 18:37.52 | captbrogers | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9247780/home-network.jpg |
| 18:46.24 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: if you really want to stir up some Apple fanboys, you can just tell them that Mountain Lion was released |
| 18:46.39 | TuxToaster | then after they go nuts for a while trying to find the download, source your info from http://mdc.mo.gov/newsroom/young-male-mountain-lion-trapped-released-reynolds-county |
| 18:47.30 | captbrogers | Pffft, that's awesome |
| 19:05.05 | TuxToaster | wow... so Syria announced that they have chemical weapons, then later tried to go back to neither confirming nor denying their existence. |
| 19:05.20 | TuxToaster | seems kind of hard to go back to that stance once someone confirms. |
| 19:05.29 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:06.10 | TuxToaster | "We can neither confirm nor deny..." "wait, you just did?" "did what?" "confirm." "did not!" "did too!" "nuh-huh!!!" |
| 19:06.12 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:13.20 | TuxToaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOptyC45JME |
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| 19:24.17 | mindjuju_ | finally, proof that Utah IS weird - http://boingboing.net/2012/07/23/photo-of-goatman.html |
| 19:24.37 | jsmith | mindjuju_: Like we didn't know that already... what more proof do you need? |
| 19:24.45 | mindjuju_ | i'm saying |
| 19:24.48 | jsmith | mindjuju_: I mean... fry sauce? |
| 19:24.51 | mindjuju_ | that's the final nail in the coffin |
| 19:24.58 | mindjuju_ | fry sauce == GROSS |
| 19:25.05 | jsmith | mindjuju_: AMEN, Brother! |
| 19:25.09 | mindjuju_ | word |
| 19:26.41 | DexterTheDragon | HEATHENS! |
| 19:26.53 | mindjuju_ | which part? dressing up as a goat? |
| 19:27.05 | mindjuju_ | you got me there, i'm a heathen |
| 19:27.09 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 19:33.25 | DonQuixote | Most Utahns will freely admit to being a bit weird, but dressing up as a goat in order to hang out with a herd really crosses a line. |
| 19:33.39 | TuxToaster | mindjuju_: I see your goatman and raise you... hotdog man. http://www.ksl.com/?sid=21373304&nid=148 |
| 19:33.41 | mindjuju_ | concur |
| 19:33.57 | mindjuju_ | i'm scared TuxToaster |
| 19:34.11 | TuxToaster | jsmith: I actually like fry sauce, if it's mixed right. |
| 19:34.27 | TuxToaster | but some places it's just horrible. |
| 19:34.37 | mindjuju_ | how hard is it to mix mayo + ketchup ? |
| 19:34.50 | mindjuju_ | i hear some places add 1000 island |
| 19:35.16 | jsmith | or pickle relish :-) |
| 19:35.20 | TuxToaster | mindjuju_: well, on the how hard question, I've seen people who can't open a cardboard box.. |
| 19:35.38 | TuxToaster | but seems that everyone has different amounts they use, different brands of ingredients, etc. |
| 19:35.39 | ninnypants | every time I see that David Newlin guy I think "He's way to serious to have a sideways headshot" |
| 19:35.40 | mindjuju_ | oh man, hotdog man is awesome |
| 19:36.25 | jsmith | It's a beefy miracle! |
| 19:36.40 | DonQuixote | One person is an oddity, two makes this a rather disturbing trend. |
| 19:37.05 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:39.39 | mindjuju_ | i think i'm going to start a movement to kick patent clerks in the crotch |
| 19:39.40 | mindjuju_ | http://boingboing.net/2012/07/21/patent-troll-targets-minecraft.html#more-172464 |
| 19:40.30 | mindjuju_ | Filed in 2001 and awarded in 2005, Uniloc's patent describes a system for "preventing unauthorized access to electronic data" which involves communication between a portable device and a license registration authority. |
| 19:41.03 | beandog | mindjuju_: it's only going to get you upset reading those. |
| 19:41.10 | mindjuju_ | i know |
| 19:41.12 | beandog | don't do it |
| 19:41.19 | mindjuju_ | and i just found out i have tomorrow off |
| 19:41.22 | mindjuju_ | so i'm down a day |
| 19:41.50 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: sounds almost like SSL |
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| 19:52.46 | macnewbold | mindjuju_: that patent troll should have epic fail. that was soooo prior art like 40 years ago |
| 19:53.56 | TuxToaster | prior art? EVERY SECURE WEBSITE IN EXISTENCE. case dismissed. |
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| 19:55.30 | herlo | mindjuju_: they don't pay holiday pay ?? |
| 19:55.34 | mahelious | no, but see, its ssl on a smartphone. its TOTALLY different... |
| 19:56.04 | macnewbold | mindjuju_: they're closed or forcing you to take the day off, but it's an unpaid day off? i thought you were on salary. |
| 19:56.32 | mindjuju_ | herlo, they do pay holiday, but i'm more meaning that our busy season starts on Aug 1 and I have the last projects finishing up on time, but close to the start of busy season |
| 19:56.38 | macnewbold | ah |
| 19:56.38 | mindjuju_ | but i was expecting working on Tuesday |
| 19:56.47 | macnewbold | yeah, deadlines need to reflect days off |
| 19:56.48 | herlo | mindjuju_: you are a workaholic |
| 19:56.54 | mindjuju_ | (being from Texas, i'm not used to July 24th) |
| 19:58.43 | macnewbold | hehe, makes sense |
| 19:58.58 | herlo | no way it makes sense. You've been here more than 10 years. |
| 19:59.38 | mindjuju_ | yeah, that's true herlo |
| 19:59.47 | mindjuju_ | but i still don't have my bearings here |
| 19:59.59 | TuxToaster | eh, I used to sometimes go into work on random holidays like that |
| 20:00.00 | mindjuju_ | i always look around for downtown and tall building to know which way is north |
| 20:00.08 | captbrogers | I've been here over 10 years and I haven't physically adapted |
| 20:00.16 | TuxToaster | get a lot more done when no one was really there to interrupt |
| 20:00.21 | herlo | mindjuju_: look at the mountains closest to you, that's east! |
| 20:00.32 | mindjuju_ | they all look the same |
| 20:00.34 | herlo | or rather, the biggest mountains if you live in the west |
| 20:00.42 | mindjuju_ | big rock outcropping , which is which? |
| 20:00.48 | TuxToaster | herlo: yeah, was going to say, that doesn't work if you live next to the Oquirrhs |
| 20:00.50 | herlo | mindjuju_: they all look the same? |
| 20:01.06 | mindjuju_ | all are big, none have trees |
| 20:01.14 | mindjuju_ | this one is pointy-er than that one |
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| 20:01.42 | mindjuju_ | don't listen to me herlo, i'm still a disgruntled Native Texan living in Utah |
| 20:01.43 | herlo | mindjuju_: they all have trees |
| 20:01.55 | mindjuju_ | scrub brush don't count for trees, just cause it's 10ft tall |
| 20:02.00 | herlo | but the ones which don't have trees at the top, those are the taller ones |
| 20:02.01 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 20:02.12 | herlo | mindjuju_: there are plenty of 50ft pines up there |
| 20:02.23 | herlo | s/50/50+/ |
| 20:02.30 | herlo | :) |
| 20:02.33 | mindjuju_ | now you want to see a place with better tress than Texas, look at Virginia |
| 20:02.40 | mindjuju_ | there is some MIGHTY fine country |
| 20:02.44 | macnewbold | ~jsmith |
| 20:02.45 | ibot | i heard jsmith is perpetually hungry, or the co-author of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony |
| 20:02.49 | herlo | nah, I think the redwoods in California are awesome! |
| 20:02.59 | mindjuju_ | and i rarely put anything above Texas, but Virginia has got it |
| 20:03.03 | herlo | and somehow, they are in mountains. |
| 20:03.33 | herlo | k, time for meeting |
| 20:03.34 | mindjuju_ | herlo, i'm sad to admit i still have yet to see the redwoods |
| 20:03.35 | herlo | bbl |
| 20:03.38 | mindjuju_ | cya herlo |
| 20:03.58 | fungus | New password ideas from Spam Subjects: Your*trusted+source=of(remedies |
| 20:08.22 | Bikerdan | Bikerdan |
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| 20:09.40 | captbrogers | Well that escalated quickly |
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| 20:28.20 | TuxToaster | ? |
| 20:28.49 | captbrogers | Oh my gosh, this is awesome... http://www.jest.com/embed/184370/neo-hides-from-lumbergh-office-space-matrix-mashup |
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| 21:17.56 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:17.56 | raifbot | pours gasoline all over mindjuju_, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze. |
| 21:22.06 | influx | ~svn-- |
| 21:28.09 | ninnypants | http://vimeo.com/45878034 |
| 21:43.54 | mindjuju_ | peno, can you use a tone and probe kit to track a run of cat5? |
| 21:44.09 | mindjuju_ | i can't really tell from this pic what that connector is http://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-701K-G-Professional-Probe-Tracing/dp/B0042VII7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343079682&sr=8-1&keywords=toner+and+probe |
| 21:44.16 | mindjuju_ | or is there a better way? |
| 21:44.46 | fungus | mindjuju_, yes you can use that. |
| 21:44.49 | mindjuju_ | hmmm, descrip does say data |
| 21:45.00 | mindjuju_ | thx fungus |
| 21:45.01 | peno | yes |
| 21:45.03 | mindjuju_ | now to find a cheap one |
| 21:45.05 | beandog | fungus: wb |
| 21:45.12 | fungus | beandog, thx |
| 21:45.53 | fungus | mindjuju_, fyi, you can plug in an RJ11 plug into an RJ45 plug if needed. |
| 21:46.15 | peno | mindjuju_: save yourself some $$ http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202290922/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053 |
| 21:46.16 | fungus | err, RJ-11 plug into an RJ-45 jack |
| 21:46.52 | mindjuju_ | way cool! |
| 21:52.50 | TuxToaster | fungus: 99.9% of the time. lol. If you're (un)lucky enough to end up with a patch panel that didn't *quite* follow standards, though, the plugs might fall out. |
| 21:53.03 | fungus | heh, true. |
| 21:53.10 | TuxToaster | luckily, I've only ever run into one of those... but it was annoying. |
| 21:53.29 | fungus | But for temporary use, like using a toner, even those will work fine. |
| 21:53.39 | TuxToaster | true |
| 21:55.43 | peno | toning sucks, though. :) |
| 21:56.54 | fungus | Yup, better to have clearly labeled runs in the first place, for sure. |
| 21:58.16 | peno | the office I'm currently in, doesn't. |
| 21:59.11 | peno | the previous tennant decided to mix and match 568A & 568B as well. |
| 21:59.30 | jsmith | Yuck |
| 22:00.52 | macnewbold | nice! |
| 22:01.30 | peno | was all sorts of fun. the had all of the runs for the phones punched into 110 blocks. wouldn't quite work for the voip system we have. |
| 22:02.34 | peno | not unless we bought different patch panels to accomdate the rj-21x leads. and mgmt didn't want to spend money. |
| 22:02.51 | peno | so I got to move and punch. |
| 22:04.35 | herlo | mindjuju_: I is back :) |
| 22:34.18 | TuxToaster | peno: sounds like fun |
| 22:34.54 | peno | it wasn't |
| 22:35.25 | TuxToaster | </sarcasm> |
| 22:35.27 | TuxToaster | :-) |
| 22:35.31 | herlo | lol |
| 22:36.17 | TuxToaster | we used to have a bunch of RJ-21x panels |
| 22:37.41 | TuxToaster | unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if they trashed them after I left |
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| 23:15.41 | SunSparc | ibot: change the topic to something current |
| 23:15.48 | SunSparc | I know, right. |
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| 23:16.36 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Sunsparc wanted a new topic here |
| 23:16.46 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 23:16.53 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:17.02 | SunSparc | ~mindjuju++ |
| 23:17.43 | SunSparc | mindjuju: made me a dubstep station on Pandora over the weekend. |
| 23:18.13 | SunSparc | That girl is still reading minds. :) |
| 23:18.32 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:18.48 | mindjuju | what did you put in for pandora? |
| 23:19.07 | *** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Sunsparc rocks the casbah |
| 23:19.08 | SunSparc | They actually have a genre for it now. Under Electronic. |
| 23:19.14 | mindjuju | ah cool |
| 23:19.19 | mindjuju | i'll have to switch over |
| 23:20.30 | mgeary | anyone here ever used PhoneGap? |
| 23:21.02 | SunSparc | mgeary: I think I downloaded it ones and started to play with it before the project got called off. |
| 23:21.20 | SunSparc | I have heard good things about it though. As well as side effects. |
| 23:21.21 | mindjuju | looks interesting |
| 23:21.50 | DexterTheDragon | I've heard horrible things about phonegap |
| 23:22.00 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:22.19 | mgeary | i've heard of some stability issues, but now that Adobe has bought them, i suspect it will get tightened up |
| 23:22.28 | beandog | ~gap |
| 23:22.28 | ibot | A new approach to distributed administration. URL: http://www.gsyc.inf.uc3m.es/~assman/gap/ |
| 23:22.35 | SunSparc | Probably depends on the situation. |
| 23:22.46 | DexterTheDragon | becasue adobe is known for their stability? |
| 23:22.54 | beandog | yah I was gonna say ... |
| 23:22.56 | beandog | which way? |
| 23:22.58 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:24.18 | SunSparc | lol, Adobe is probably trying to port all their Flash stuff before it tanks. |
| 23:24.30 | mgeary | hmm. they just hit 2.0. that's encouraging |
| 23:24.48 | SunSparc | Unless it is for marketing. |
| 23:24.56 | beandog | holy crap it's 4:30 |
| 23:25.03 | mindjuju | no, it's 530 |
| 23:25.04 | SunSparc | Time for milking. |
| 23:25.06 | mindjuju | p |
| 23:25.29 | SunSparc | In California it is 4:30 |
| 23:25.42 | beandog | and the current time causes cancer |
| 23:26.02 | SunSparc | ibot: kill cancer |
| 23:26.02 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged fluxpositrino gun at cancer |
| 23:26.22 | beandog | that did it |
| 23:27.02 | beandog | slow box. :( |
| 23:28.02 | SunSparc | ~compiling |
| 23:28.21 | SunSparc | ibot: have you really no entry for compiling? |
| 23:28.34 | SunSparc | ibot: compiling is http://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 23:28.34 | ibot | SunSparc: okay |
| 23:28.39 | mindjuju | ~compile SunSparc |
| 23:28.40 | ibot | ACTION runs gcc -o SunSparc.o on SunSparc |
| 23:28.44 | mindjuju | heh |
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| 23:32.56 | mindjuju | cya gents |
| 23:33.02 | SunSparc | laterz mindjuju |
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