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| 15:48.33 | TuxToaster | ~bacon macnewbold |
| 15:48.33 | ibot | ACTION goes Footloose on macnewbold, even though its illegal |
| 15:48.59 | TuxToaster | meh, wrong bacon. |
| 15:52.45 | mgeary | okay, so i think it's time for me to get ssl set up on my email server (postfix, dovecot). I've never done it before. Can anyone point me to a resource that takes me through that? |
| 15:53.17 | mgeary | do i have to actually buy a cert from a vendor? Any real reason not to just create my own? |
| 15:55.30 | Monnok | vendors are widely accepted, if you self sign, the browser throws a warning to the user that it isnt 100% veriied |
| 15:55.41 | Monnok | verified* |
| 15:55.45 | mgeary | why would a browser interact with an email server? |
| 15:55.51 | Monnok | oh mail? |
| 15:55.53 | mgeary | or do you mean the email client? |
| 15:56.10 | Monnok | nm, ive never done it for mail servers |
| 15:56.24 | TuxToaster | $lart Monnok |
| 15:56.24 | raifbot | nukes Monnok with a single large nuke. |
| 15:56.37 | Monnok | $lart myself |
| 15:56.37 | raifbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up myself. |
| 15:56.39 | beandog | mgeary: pretty simple, just buy a cert |
| 15:56.42 | beandog | mgeary: configure as normal |
| 15:56.53 | beandog | need a CSR |
| 15:56.56 | TuxToaster | mgeary: You'd need to buy a cert though so it would have authority |
| 15:57.01 | mgeary | why buy a cert, is my first question |
| 15:57.08 | mgeary | if it's internal email (just my company) |
| 15:57.21 | beandog | Oh |
| 15:57.21 | TuxToaster | self-signed is likely to cause the client to toss errors that it can't validate, or possibly refuse to connect |
| 15:57.26 | beandog | Why do you want SSL if it's internal? |
| 15:57.27 | TuxToaster | if it's internal only, it might work |
| 15:57.39 | mgeary | beandog: well, we still connect from other *locations* |
| 15:57.42 | beandog | SSL is cheap anyway ... $10 / year |
| 15:57.44 | beandog | I'd go for it |
| 15:57.51 | mgeary | yeah |
| 15:58.04 | TuxToaster | beandog: where do you get your certs? |
| 15:58.14 | TuxToaster | (just curious, not seen many places at $10/yr) |
| 15:58.42 | beandog | namecheap |
| 15:58.56 | beandog | $8 / year |
| 15:58.58 | beandog | :D |
| 15:58.58 | TuxToaster | Prior to using Namecheap, I had mine at GoDaddy and you could get them for $12.99 with coupon, but renewals were $50 |
| 15:59.05 | beandog | wildcard for $100 / year |
| 15:59.13 | beandog | TuxToaster: whut, seriously? |
| 15:59.20 | TuxToaster | ah nice, yeah I love Namecheap. You can get them for $2 with a domain |
| 15:59.23 | beandog | We've renewed many times, many domains .. always $9 |
| 15:59.31 | beandog | godaddy is pond scum |
| 15:59.48 | TuxToaster | beandog: yeah, they would list at $24.99/yr but if you googled "GoDaddy SSL" and hit the adwords link you'd get $12.99 |
| 15:59.54 | TuxToaster | still was one of the cheapest options |
| 16:00.12 | TuxToaster | so we'd tell customers to do that and buy multiple years at a time |
| 16:00.47 | TuxToaster | lots of places still try to get you to pay $50-$80/yr for a basic single domain cert |
| 16:00.56 | beandog | Getting customers to buy certs / domains / hosting always passes through sadness and confusion |
| 16:01.21 | TuxToaster | beandog: yep. In our case though, we didn't control the domains and such |
| 16:01.41 | TuxToaster | we were just hosting their reservation software, they owned the domain and their own website, etc. separately. |
| 16:01.56 | beandog | yah |
| 16:01.58 | beandog | that happens |
| 16:02.11 | TuxToaster | we would sometimes just buy the cert for them and add it to their bill, but avoided that since they'd often not want to pay for it |
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| 16:08.57 | captbrogers | Why is it every time there is a tragedy I facepalm harder and harder at the comments I see on Twitter/Facebook? |
| 16:12.36 | Monnok | people continually try to sound more clever than their peers about something and/or just repeat what someone else has already said, sometimes for no other reason than to let others know they know about said event? |
| 16:13.38 | captbrogers | Well, I am seeing people say, "Impossible[sic], but Obama better be getting rid of guns in his second term." and I just about put my hand through my head from the force of me applying my palm to my face |
| 16:14.24 | Monnok | yeah, mayapocalypse predicted his actual second term? |
| 16:15.12 | captbrogers | Well, my first problem is with "getting rid of guns" |
| 16:15.31 | Monnok | yeah, right to bear arms, and all |
| 16:16.07 | Monnok | he can nerf it down to california's level of restrictions tho |
| 16:16.09 | captbrogers | It's a constitutional right to have them, I am supportive of gun laws that prevent the wrong type of people from getting them, but if a sane person wants to carry a concealed gun for no other reason than personal protection, I say let them if they can pass the training/certifications |
| 16:17.31 | captbrogers | 2 days ago in Florida, a 71 year-old man pulled his gun to protect himself and others from two robbers. He fired a few shots, they fled. |
| 16:17.32 | captbrogers | http://patriotstatesman.com/2012/07/video-71-year-old-florida-resident-defends-internet-cafe-patrons-in-shootout/ |
| 16:17.54 | captbrogers | Yet I hear some hippie whine about guns being evil and no one should have them. |
| 16:18.32 | Monnok | in that case, noone should drive cars either |
| 16:18.55 | captbrogers | I agree, it's the Slippery Slope argument, and it drives me insane. |
| 16:19.40 | captbrogers | Pretty soon, we should all just have machines feed us because if we stand up, we could hurt ourselves by falling. Advocating for common sense and responsibility seems to be lost on my generation and it baffles me |
| 16:34.12 | mindjuju_ | why am i such a microsoft hater? i read this a smile http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-reports-first-loss-public-company-200908715--finance.html?_esi=1 |
| 16:34.27 | Monnok | yeah that was a doosie |
| 16:34.30 | mindjuju_ | maybe it's that i hate the name "bing" for a search engine |
| 16:34.42 | mindjuju_ | or i hate that they try to verb-ize it |
| 16:34.46 | mindjuju_ | hey, let's bing that |
| 16:34.48 | Monnok | noone will ever bing me |
| 16:35.04 | mindjuju_ | and i espcially hate the way the announcer says it on the commercials, bing! |
| 16:35.16 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:35.19 | Monnok | ballmer's a tool |
| 16:35.21 | Monnok | that is all |
| 16:35.30 | ninnypants | captbrogers: it's kind of like the mayor of NY banning drinks over something like 16oz |
| 16:35.56 | influx | "Whatever, man. I'll just buy two instead." |
| 16:36.03 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: you use 1password right? |
| 16:36.14 | mindjuju_ | lastpass |
| 16:37.32 | mindjuju_ | TuxToaster, Monnok - this is what i hate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1AwFY6MuwE&t=0m56s |
| 16:37.58 | mindjuju_ | drives me up a wall |
| 16:38.17 | Monnok | ah |
| 16:38.31 | Monnok | its safe |
| 16:38.33 | Monnok | ish |
| 16:38.40 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 16:38.42 | Monnok | unless you dont like bing |
| 16:38.55 | mgeary | ninnypants: i use 1password, fwiw |
| 16:39.09 | captbrogers | ninnypants: exactly |
| 16:39.31 | ninnypants | mgeary: I've been hearing good things about 1password |
| 16:39.42 | mgeary | i've used it for years. no real complaints |
| 16:40.06 | mindjuju_ | i've used mine for years and i've no complaints mgeary! o.0 |
| 16:40.16 | ninnypants | haven't really heard anything about lastpass though |
| 16:40.37 | mindjuju_ | k, got to get back to work so i can get some stuff clamped down so i can talk to herlo later today |
| 16:43.40 | captbrogers | Wow, you guys are just nuts. I use Password1, it's more secure that way |
| 16:44.30 | Monnok | i keep it all in my head |
| 16:44.46 | captbrogers | I write all my passwords down on sticky notes |
| 16:44.53 | Monnok | admittedly, it has caused some occasions of being locked out |
| 16:44.56 | captbrogers | Especially root passwords, I can never remember those |
| 16:45.07 | Monnok | lol |
| 16:45.24 | ninnypants | Monnok: yeah it must be hard to put a password in if it's only allowed to be in your head ;) |
| 16:49.08 | Monnok | you obviously dont have a USB wired directly into your nervous system then (a la http://xkcd.com/644/) |
| 17:01.24 | captbrogers | Being a linux user, that seems legit. I should do that |
| 17:02.14 | captbrogers | http://what-if.xkcd.com/1/ |
| 17:02.17 | captbrogers | This has me rolling over |
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| 17:10.19 | macnewbold | captbrogers: awesome. My favorite line: "A careful reading of official Major League Baseball Rule 6.08(b) suggests that in this situation, the batter would be considered "hit by pitch", and would be eligible to advance to first base." |
| 17:10.36 | captbrogers | I know, that little bit at the end is just the best part |
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| 17:11.10 | mindjuju_ | ~lart macnewbold |
| 17:11.10 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after macnewbold's head |
| 17:11.19 | captbrogers | Never mind that a 1 mile crater is now where the stadium and surrounding area once stood, it is important to note that it counts as a walk |
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| 17:26.47 | mgeary | remind me who here has used truecrypt |
| 17:26.52 | mgeary | ~seen fungus |
| 17:27.05 | ibot | fungus <~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 6d 18h 14m 11s ago, saying: 'wow, that's a lot of effor for something so silly. :)'. |
| 17:27.10 | mindjuju_ | i think he's usnig up vacation again |
| 17:27.16 | mindjuju_ | it's been almost another week :( |
| 17:27.18 | mgeary | again? sheesh |
| 17:28.10 | mindjuju_ | what help do you need with truecrypt, i've setup a tc volume and i've setup a file |
| 17:32.34 | mahelious | mgeary: i've setup a file volume. nothing fancy. |
| 17:32.43 | mindjuju_ | he's left |
| 17:32.47 | mindjuju_ | he hates us |
| 17:32.49 | mindjuju_ | we suck |
| 17:33.05 | beandog | ~give mindjuju_ a consolation prize |
| 17:33.06 | ibot | ACTION gives a consolation prize to mindjuju_ |
| 17:53.25 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 17:53.25 | raifbot | pours hot grits down the front of Heartsbane's pants. |
| 18:07.28 | romanovic | what a waste of hot grits, raifbot |
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| 21:30.08 | mindjuju_ | peno, you around? |
| 21:31.46 | mindjuju_ | i'm looking for something that will help me quantify how much network congestion there is, in google it's just brining up whatupgold, but no other apps |
| 21:31.50 | mindjuju_ | any recommendations? |
| 21:36.41 | beandog | a network traffic analysis tool? |
| 21:38.21 | beandog | ~torrent mindjuju_ |
| 21:38.43 | beandog | torrents are like voip ... they get priority qos |
| 21:42.30 | TuxToaster | ~sharkattack |
| 22:05.46 | mahelious | Ugh. Just found the private member I put in an abstract class. |
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| 22:41.18 | peno | mindjuju_: check out ntop |
| 22:42.58 | mindjuju_ | thx peno |
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| 22:51.38 | peno | np, it's fairly simple to setup. Worked out nicely when a client was trying to identify what was chewing up their bandwidth after hours. |
| 22:54.50 | beandog | peno: what did you guys use? |
| 22:54.52 | beandog | I missed that part |
| 22:57.04 | peno | ntop |
| 22:57.14 | beandog | ah |
| 22:57.33 | peno | turns out a doctor liked, uh, naughty videos. |
| 22:58.48 | beandog | at work? |
| 22:58.51 | beandog | that's not cool. |
| 22:59.13 | TuxToaster | oi |
| 22:59.15 | beandog | you seriously put the network in jeopardy by visiting sketchy sites |
| 22:59.25 | beandog | ~fandance TuxToaster |
| 23:00.33 | TuxToaster | fandance? |
| 23:00.59 | beandog | don't google that. |
| 23:01.00 | TuxToaster | mindjuju_: wps is playing some Rebecca Black for you. |
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| 23:19.57 | mindjuju_ | oh nice |
| 23:20.07 | mindjuju_ | isn't her music just lovely? |
| 23:20.15 | mindjuju_ | hey, any cisco folks in the house? |
| 23:20.22 | beandog | in da house |
| 23:20.34 | mindjuju_ | i wonder if there is a cisco chan on freenode |
| 23:20.43 | mindjuju_ | i axe my qq and keep searching |
| 23:21.03 | beandog | mindjuju_: you need this: http://www.percona.com/docs/wiki/benchmark:hardware:cisco_ucs_c250 |
| 23:21.28 | mindjuju_ | but the docs for the cisco wireless controller 526 say that the device can support up to 6 WAP, up to 2 controllers per network (total of 12, again per docs) |
| 23:21.33 | beandog | wait .. wtc is Oracle Linux?? |
| 23:21.50 | mindjuju_ | after the 5.2.193.0 upgrade i noticed at the top it now says that it can support upt to 12 devices |
| 23:22.16 | mindjuju_ | and sure enough i've added the backup WAP and one controller has 7 devices and the other has 6 |
| 23:22.25 | mindjuju_ | it seems like i just broke the laws of physics here |
| 23:22.30 | mindjuju_ | or am i just fooling myself? |
| 23:23.07 | mindjuju_ | i used inSSIDer and i can see the WAP is put out signal |
| 23:23.19 | mindjuju_ | so, me thinks it worky |
| 23:23.50 | mindjuju_ | when i asked the cisco guy about the jump from 6 to 12 (on the management console) he said he wasn't sure, and we're off support now |
| 23:23.54 | mindjuju_ | so no more support for me |
| 23:27.42 | mindjuju_ | btw, i think i'm going to spend some quality time with arch linux |
| 23:27.52 | mindjuju_ | saw an article, i'm interested |
| 23:28.01 | beandog | :) |
| 23:28.52 | beandog | it really impresses me how a program as big as mysql can compile with so few gcc warnings |
| 23:28.59 | beandog | maybe the made their flags conservative |
| 23:29.17 | beandog | *they |
| 23:29.29 | beandog | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/innodb-raw-devices.html |
| 23:29.32 | beandog | that looks interesting too ^^ |
| 23:29.35 | mindjuju_ | beandog is l337 |
| 23:29.45 | mindjuju_ | i've only used make a handful of times |
| 23:29.45 | beandog | dang straight |
| 23:30.48 | mindjuju_ | as in make driver > b0rk! > facepalm > make driver > b0rk > doubly facepalm > make driver > b0rk! > roll dice to see if keep sanity > facepalm |
| 23:30.54 | mindjuju_ | it was a VERY trying time in my life |
| 23:31.51 | mindjuju_ | and then herlo was like ...blah blah blah kernel version blah blah of course b0rk blah blah blah |
| 23:32.00 | mindjuju_ | and then i found the right kernel and it still b0rked |
| 23:32.18 | mindjuju_ | at which point i crossed the aisle and put the device on winders |
| 23:32.28 | mindjuju_ | i'm not brave enough to reapproach |
| 23:34.02 | mindjuju_ | $8ball will i ever be as cool as beandog? |
| 23:34.02 | raifbot | mindjuju_ - It is certain. |
| 23:34.02 | beandog | lol |
| 23:34.12 | beandog | poor mindjuju_ |
| 23:35.22 | beandog | $8ball can I leave early |
| 23:35.23 | raifbot | beandog - Most likely. |
| 23:35.28 | beandog | $8ball can you be more clear |
| 23:35.28 | raifbot | beandog - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 23:35.39 | beandog | $8ball am I going to get fired for bailing |
| 23:35.39 | raifbot | beandog - Signs point to yes. |
| 23:35.42 | beandog | Hmm. |
| 23:35.43 | mindjuju_ | ouch |
| 23:35.49 | mindjuju_ | how much longer do you have to stay? |
| 23:35.54 | beandog | til 6 |
| 23:36.08 | beandog | $8ball can I ninja leave |
| 23:36.08 | raifbot | beandog - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 23:36.15 | beandog | $8ball can I sneak out |
| 23:36.15 | raifbot | beandog - It is certain. |
| 23:36.24 | beandog | $8ball can I steal pencils while I leave |
| 23:36.24 | raifbot | beandog - Better not tell you now. |
| 23:36.38 | beandog | $8ball should I leave my monitor on so it looks like I'm coming back? |
| 23:36.38 | raifbot | beandog - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 23:36.51 | beandog | $8ball are you ever helpful? |
| 23:36.52 | raifbot | beandog - Yes. |
| 23:36.54 | beandog | lol |
| 23:36.55 | mindjuju_ | oh, that's just 24 minutes from now |
| 23:37.38 | beandog | yarr |
| 23:37.41 | beandog | I'm playing with Percona |
| 23:38.06 | mindjuju_ | what music are you listening to? |
| 23:38.29 | beandog | huh? |
| 23:38.45 | beandog | Lifehouse |
| 23:38.47 | mindjuju_ | surely you're listening to some kind of music |
| 23:38.55 | mindjuju_ | oh, lifehouse, never heard of them |
| 23:39.06 | beandog | I like them a lot |
| 23:39.24 | beandog | they're on spotify if you wanna fire it up |
| 23:39.52 | mindjuju_ | i'm not actually on sptify , never fired it up |
| 23:41.54 | beandog | ~fire mindjuju_ |
| 23:41.54 | ibot | ACTION cusses mindjuju_ out, "that's one screw-up too many, mindjuju_!". ibot grabs mindjuju_ by the scruff of the neck and bodily heaves him out the window into a nearby dumpster. |
| 23:42.01 | beandog | lol |
| 23:53.39 | mindjuju_ | T - minus 7 minutes for beandog |
| 23:53.41 | mindjuju_ | :) |
| 23:53.53 | beandog | I already clocked out |
| 23:54.00 | beandog | I'm just sitting here as a common courtesy |
| 23:54.04 | mindjuju_ | heh |
| 23:54.05 | mindjuju_ | nice |
| 23:54.08 | beandog | and texting people |
| 23:54.09 | beandog | :D |
| 23:54.21 | beandog | hey juju I don't have your cell on my new phone |
| 23:54.24 | beandog | can you pm it to me? |
| 23:54.40 | beandog | or ... don't |
| 23:54.53 | beandog | this is your big chance to cut me off forever |
| 23:55.03 | mindjuju_ | it's 801-IM-TEXAN |
| 23:55.08 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 23:55.23 | mindjuju_ | i should see if that's available |
| 23:55.55 | mindjuju_ | well, i'm going to grab my stuff and split |
| 23:55.57 | beandog | Okay |
| 23:55.58 | beandog | I'm leaving |
| 23:56.00 | mindjuju_ | cya |
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| 23:56.03 | beandog | chau |