IRC log for #uphpu on 20120719

00:29.32SunSparc~poker herlo
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00:31.47SunSparc~lolstats macnewbold
00:31.47ibotmacnewbold has said lol 478 times (10.1 %), ranked 4/110 (percentile: 3.6 %)
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01:39.51TuxToaster$lart herlo
01:39.52raifbotstamps herlo on the forehead with the official Troll marker.
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05:32.51herlo~rlart
05:32.52ibotshoves a crumpet down DexterTheDragon's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that?
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14:52.34influxWhat's the meaning of .:/ when working in Linux?
14:53.51influxin the terminal
14:53.52influx..........
14:54.22macnewboldinflux: that came through with a :/ smilie for me...
14:54.43macnewboldwas that . / : ?
14:55.20macnewbold./ means current directory, : might be punctuation in a sentence/phrase/prompt, or a file called : in the current directory
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14:58.34influx. : /
14:58.54influxThe colon is what's throwing me off.
14:59.29influxDidn't know : is a valid filename character.
14:59.32mindjujuyou can't do a kickstart for a book you are going to write
14:59.50mindjujuyou have to write it, sufffer, die and then your estate gets the $$
14:59.52mindjujuthat's how it works
15:00.00influxWhat?
15:00.07influxha
15:00.28mindjujusome goofy author started a kickstart (money drive) on a book she wants to write
15:00.42mindjujuin all seriousness though, this is dumb
15:01.54romanovicinflux: what's the context? what command is it used with?
15:03.33mindjujuare you sure it isn't ./
15:03.54mindjujumaybe somebody overzealous with the punctuation ?
15:05.18influxHeh.
15:05.25influxThis is the line that it's in...
15:05.45influxphp_value include_path ".:/home/contest/public_html/"
15:06.41mindjujuhttp://php.net/manual/en/configuration.changes.php
15:06.56mindjujulook at example 1, it has it the same
15:08.11mindjujui've got to admit, i've not bothered to wonder why the syntax is that way
15:08.28mindjujuit's one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" for me, but now i'm curious why it's that way
15:08.53mindjujuwhile you wait for herlo or somebody more senior to wake up, you can enjoy this influx - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huKe44oGA3w
15:09.58influxclick
15:10.01romanovicinflux: sounds like it's just the apache config method for appending to a path? kind of like PATH=$PATH:/some/dir in linux
15:10.04influxAw yay Basement Jaxx.
15:10.14mindjujuword
15:10.40influxromanovic: That makes sense. :)
15:12.33influxThanks for that, mindjuju. :)
15:12.41influx~uphpu++
15:12.54mindjuju:)
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15:46.09macnewbold~meetingtime
15:46.13macnewbold~meeting time
15:46.13ibothmm... meeting time is there's a UPHPU meeting tonight, including the meeting-after-the-meeting at the Draper Applebee's from about 9pm to 1am
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16:02.30ninnypantsmacnewbold: what's the presentation?
16:02.39ninnypantscarmony giving another talk?
16:03.10macnewboldninnypants: no, cole joplin on CSS Hat (turning photoshop something into straight CSS3)
16:03.18macnewbold~topic
16:05.13ninnypantsmacnewbold: ahh I haven't joined the room in a while so I didn't see the topic
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16:16.45herloinflux: the meeting of .:/ in the terminal?
16:16.49utahcon8
16:17.09herloutahcon: 7
16:17.46herlos/meeting/meaning/
16:21.06captbrogersSo, anyone up for some chinese food today?
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16:28.22macnewboldcaptbrogers: where?
16:30.56captbrogersProvo area?
16:31.06captbrogersNot sure what is here other than Panda
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16:34.10influxherlo: Oui.
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16:34.35influxI was wondering why the colon is there
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16:41.19captbrogersYeah, I'm sure I'd go to Panda Express
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16:42.34captbrogersEither the one on University Parkway in Orem or the one right by BYU on University Ave
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16:42.58captbrogersUnless someone knows of some place better
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17:00.56carmony__:O
17:07.00herloinflux: in what context?
17:07.32herlolike, is it in the PATH? or in some other executable, or something?
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17:10.57ninnypantscaptbrogers: there's a really good Japanese place in the Provo mall
17:11.19captbrogersI think I could do that. Orange chicken just sounded really good
17:11.58ninnypantscaptbrogers: what time are you thinking about going?
17:12.32captbrogersI have no idea. I'm really up for any time, I'm just feeling like I need to get up and do something
17:13.39ninnypantsmakes sense
17:14.15ninnypantsmindjuju_: you gonna make it to captbrogers' weekly lunch?
17:14.28captbrogersWe can go closer to 1 if it helps people
17:16.33captbrogersWell, skinner can't find a parking spot so he is thinking to go now so we can get back while everyone else is out to lunch so he can get a decent spot
17:17.49captbrogersWell, he is ready to go. So I guess we'll go to that Japanese place in the mall right now. We'll be there in about 10 minutes if anyone wants to join us. I know it's an early lunch, but we're going
17:23.03influx11:05 <+influx> php_value include_path ".:/home/contest/public_html/"
17:23.06influxherlo: ^
17:23.33carmony__okay, any mac/ssh super users here? :P
17:23.35herloinflux: ahh
17:23.57herloinflux: the ':' represents a separator. I didn't catch that as the part of the discussion at first
17:24.19influxno worries. Wall of text and all.
17:24.33herloin other words, the include_path will first look in the current directory (.) and then in /contest/public_html/
17:24.37herloinflux: hope that helps
17:24.55influxTotally. I was more curious than concerned. I hadn't seen that before.
17:24.58influxThanks dude.
17:25.13herloit's fairly common on Unix like systems
17:25.18herloinflux: you have a mac, no?
17:26.48influxoui
17:27.07influxcarmony: Sup.
17:27.36herloinflux: in that case try this
17:27.43herloopen a terminal and type 'echo $PATH'
17:27.56herloyou should get a similar looking output to the include_path from above
17:28.03influxNice.
17:28.26influxSort of like an OR.
17:29.12herlono
17:29.24herloit's a search path, starts at the left and goes to the right.
17:30.20herloin terms of the unix shell, it first looks for the executable program (like ls) in the first directory on the list, if not found, it'll look in the next path for the program. Hopefully, the program is in one of the directories in that list.
17:30.32herloif not, it gives a 'command not found' type error
17:31.57influxok
17:34.26influxI get that it's a search path, but the reason I was thinking of an OR is of how an OR works.
17:35.51influx$a OR $b OR $c , where $a is FALSE , $b is TRUE , $c is TRUE , $b would be where a conditional test stops.
17:36.11influxThat's all.
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17:42.16macnewbold~meeting time
17:42.16iboti guess meeting time is there's a UPHPU meeting tonight, including the meeting-after-the-meeting at the Draper Applebee's from about 9pm to 1am
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17:44.29maheliouscenter7 -> applebees -> movie theaters I guess?
17:44.39SkinnerDroidCaptbrogers and I are here at the mall
17:44.46TuxToaster~TuxToaster macnewbold
17:44.46ibotACTION pours gas all over macnewbold, stands back and tosses a match
17:45.18macnewbold~seen carmony
17:45.24ibotcarmony <~carmony@2601:7:6680:18:19d:6edd:9570:630e> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 1d 14h 12m 54s ago, saying: 'herlo: we chatted on the frontrunner today :P'.
17:45.28macnewboldi guess he didn't get his ssh issue figured out
17:45.39maheliousSkinnerDroid: sounds fun.  too bad provo is a good hours drive from here.
17:45.47macnewbold~seen carmony__
17:45.47ibotcarmony__ <~carmony@199.104.95.10> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 22m 14s ago, saying: 'okay, any mac/ssh super users here? :P'.
17:48.42mindjuju_~figureout macnewbold
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17:49.01macnewbold~tuoeregif mindjuju_
17:49.18macnewbold~rot13 mindjuju_
17:49.18ibotzvaqwhwh_
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17:55.44TuxToaster$lart Chuck  Norris
17:55.45raifbotexecutes killall -HUP Chuck  Norris.
17:58.29mgeary~rlart
17:58.29ibotfollow's Heartsbane with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION
18:33.06influxherlo: You there?
18:33.28influxOr any other *nix blokes
18:36.26influxwoop. nm. carry on.
18:46.15TuxToaster$mindtrick influx
18:46.16raifbot(jedi hand wave) influx you don't need to see his identification.
18:46.24TuxToastereh, was hoping for the move along one.
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19:06.34influxlol
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19:36.28beandog!seen carmony
19:36.36beandog~seen carmony
19:36.39ibotcarmony <~carmony@2601:7:6680:18:19d:6edd:9570:630e> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 1d 16h 4m 9s ago, saying: 'herlo: we chatted on the frontrunner today :P'.
19:36.40beandograwr.
19:41.35mindjuju_peno, qq -- an "edge port" is the physical port on a switch that is connected to other switches?
19:41.53penoless qq, more pew pew
19:42.01mindjuju_love that quote
19:42.16penoessentially, yeah.
19:42.31penosome may refer to it as an uplink port
19:43.03mindjuju_k, i was wondering how they were different
19:43.04mindjuju_thx
19:43.08mindjuju_~peno++
19:43.25penosame basic concept
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19:50.46beandogokay
19:50.59beandogI read about this IP address service the other day, where it works on both your lan and on the net
19:51.04beandogsomething zero ip something
19:51.55beandoghttp://xip.io/
19:51.57beandogwow I found it
19:51.57beandog:D
19:55.55beandogOkay
19:55.56beandogI don't want this.
19:55.58beandogor need it.
19:56.04beandogI mean, it's cool and all.
19:56.12beandogbut we have wildcard subdomains here for everyone
19:56.20beandog*.steve.lan resolves properly to my box
19:57.05beandoghad to do that in the DNS server
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20:11.17mindjuju_that's an interesting idea beandog, that xip.io,, but i wonder if that opens his server up to hax?
20:12.03mindjuju_and then dns poisoning, etc
20:12.26mindjuju_~poison beandog's dns
20:12.26ibotACTION brews up the best industrial metal cleaner and injects a precise measure into beandog's dns
20:12.48mindjuju_works for me /me goes back to work
20:13.48TuxToaster~poison mindjuju's dns
20:13.48ibotACTION brews up the best industrial metal cleaner and injects a precise measure into mindjuju's dns
20:13.56TuxToastermeh, not random
20:14.13mindjuju_~lart TuxToaster
20:14.13ibotsmacks TuxToaster up side the head with a clue-by-4
20:14.23TuxToasterouch
20:14.29mindjuju_o.0
20:15.05beandogmindjuju_: dunno
20:17.01TuxToaster~clamshell mindjuju_
20:17.02ibotpacks mindjuju_ in clamshell packaging with tamper-resistant edges and seals it shut
20:17.17mindjuju_ah dag, sneak attack
20:17.23mindjuju_i see how you are
20:18.03mindjuju_~spoiler tuxtoaster
20:18.55TuxToaster~mail mindjuju_ to Abu Dhabi
20:18.55ibotACTION folds mindjuju_ to Abu Dhabi up, puts a dozen stamps on him and mails mindjuju_ to Abu Dhabi to Russia with love.
20:19.19beandogle sigh
20:19.21TuxToasteribot: fail
20:19.21ibotFAIL.
20:19.49TuxToastermindjuju_: so, what you're saying is... a bat and a cat have a... bird?
20:20.02mindjuju_yeah
20:20.12TuxToasterlol
20:20.36mindjuju_doubledoor dies in book 5!
20:21.14mindjuju_superman beats lex luther!
20:21.37mindjuju_hans gruber gets his due!
20:21.48mindjuju_k, enoough spoilers for you, i gots to get back to work
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21:15.20ninnypants$chuck-fact
21:15.21raifbotChuck Norris once gave a box of his old watches to a group of kids. these kids are now known as the power rangers
21:15.23ninnypants$rlart
21:15.23raifbotpulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps ninnypants.
21:15.35ninnypants~lart raifbot
21:15.35ibottakes out a cattle prod and gives raifbot a good jolt
21:16.04herloinflux: I'm here now
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21:32.53influxherlo: It's okay. I experienced the find-it-in-google-right-after-asking-in-irc effect. Thank you though!
21:33.01herlolol
21:33.05herloinflux: good to hear
21:34.09influx:)
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22:29.22carmonywow
22:29.27carmonythis retina display is sharp
22:30.34TuxToaster~lart carmony
22:30.34ibotresizes carmony's terminal to 40x24
22:30.46TuxToasterha. Take that on your retina display.
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22:42.32carmonyLOL
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22:44.04beandoghey carmony
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23:06.55beandoganone wanna review something for me
23:07.20beandogI need a dev's opinion
23:07.28beandogit's not public yet, so I gotta pm you URL
23:07.29beandog-_-
23:12.02romanovicbeandog: i'm around for a bit longer
23:12.12beandogk
23:24.51ninnypantsbeandog: if you need any more eyes I can take a look as well
23:25.05beandogyah that'd help
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