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| 14:59.32 | TuxToaster | http://twistedsifter.sifter.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/super-mario-fish-tank-aquarium.jpg WANT |
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| 15:02.36 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 15:02.36 | raifbot | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up shalkie. |
| 15:10.58 | tierra | TuxToaster: that's pretty awesome |
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| 15:35.10 | TuxToaster | tierra: yup, just might have to do that now |
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| 15:54.02 | mindjuju | jsmith -- minecraft server fully patched and back up :) |
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| 16:07.07 | josephscott | http://what-if.xkcd.com/1/ |
| 16:09.50 | captbrogers | What's the server address? |
| 16:10.02 | mindjuju | xkcd.com? |
| 16:10.11 | captbrogers | Or I should say, for the minecraft server, can I join? |
| 16:10.17 | mahelious | josephscott: lmao @ T=30 nanoseconds |
| 16:10.22 | mahelious | that just made my day |
| 16:10.50 | mindjuju | captbrogers, i'm not sure, you're pretty weird |
| 16:10.53 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 16:10.57 | captbrogers | Dang it |
| 16:11.02 | captbrogers | I knew that would catch up to me |
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| 16:29.37 | mindjuju | oh man, this is funny! the fastest way to make your old computer and peripherals inoperable in about 30 seconds |
| 16:29.43 | mindjuju | http://tinyurl.com/cylpkd5 |
| 16:31.08 | fungus | mindjuju, other methods to make your old computer and peripherals inoperable in a whole lot less than 30 seconds. |
| 16:31.09 | fungus | http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ |
| 16:31.46 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 16:32.07 | influx | How dastardly. |
| 16:33.38 | fungus | lol, even one for wifi. http://etherkiller.org/wlan.html |
| 16:33.51 | fungus | "kids, don't try this at home." |
| 16:34.19 | josephscott | give it enough juice and it will melt :-) |
| 16:34.20 | clintberry | Can anyone remember that high res image of space that was posted here a couple of months ago? |
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| 16:44.00 | mindjuju | clintberry - is it this one? http://www.flixya.com/files-photo/e/v/o/evolv5-334487.jpg |
| 16:44.29 | clintberry | mindjuju: Dang, rick rolled :-) |
| 16:46.09 | TuxToaster | man I love my receiver setup at home. My wife couldn't figure out how to make the Apple TV show up on the TV so that she could play a video from her phone.... I opened an app on my phone and switched the input on the receiver for her. From 60 miles away. |
| 16:46.32 | TuxToaster | clintberry: that's why you need your IRC client to show you a preview before you click the link ;-) |
| 16:46.33 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:46.51 | clintberry | TuxToaster: That would be a great idea. :-) |
| 16:49.58 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:49.58 | raifbot | pushes the wall down onto uxp whilst whistling innocently. |
| 16:50.49 | fungus | clintberry, you haven't learned yet? Never Click Mindjuju's Links! |
| 16:51.04 | mindjuju | ~shush fungus |
| 16:52.00 | clintberry | ha ha, I know now |
| 16:52.25 | fungus | TuxToaster, that's a bad idea, because then I get rickroll'd when he even posts a link. No choice to click. |
| 16:53.06 | josephscott | limechat ftw |
| 16:53.24 | fungus | That feature is nice most of the time, but unless you can blacklist mindjuju, it's just too dangerous |
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| 16:53.38 | josephscott | I'd rather see a preview of the rickroll and save a click, reduce context switching :-) |
| 16:53.46 | josephscott | haha |
| 16:53.49 | josephscott | ~blacklist mindjuju |
| 16:53.59 | Monnok | nice |
| 16:54.36 | josephscott | $8ball should mindjuju links be blacklisted? |
| 16:54.37 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes - definitely. |
| 17:00.46 | mindjuju | blacklist? |
| 17:00.48 | mindjuju | me? |
| 17:01.00 | mindjuju | i'm trustworthy |
| 17:01.31 | itimber | :) |
| 17:03.12 | mindjuju | so rude |
| 17:03.15 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 17:03.42 | mindjuju | itimber, how is misery, err Missouri ? |
| 17:05.31 | itimber | it's hot |
| 17:05.34 | itimber | and humid |
| 17:05.56 | itimber | we've been >100 degrees for several days now |
| 17:06.06 | itimber | and the heat index set much higher |
| 17:06.10 | itimber | blech |
| 17:06.15 | itimber | starting to cool down though |
| 17:06.33 | itimber | how are things in good ol |
| 17:06.38 | itimber | ol' Utah? |
| 17:06.39 | mindjuju | i think heat w/ humditity > heat w/o humditity |
| 17:06.51 | itimber | eek, IDK |
| 17:06.56 | itimber | but you're a Texan, right? |
| 17:07.04 | mindjuju | yup |
| 17:07.04 | itimber | so you know what you're talking about |
| 17:07.07 | itimber | yep |
| 17:07.30 | itimber | heat w/o humidity will cool when the sun goes down |
| 17:07.43 | itimber | heat w/ humidity stays hot all night too |
| 17:08.14 | mindjuju | yeah, that's true |
| 17:08.32 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 17:08.32 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Cloudy 88f / 31c Humidity: 25% Wind: NE at 5 mph |
| 17:08.45 | itimber | $weather 64105 |
| 17:08.45 | raifbot | 3itimber - 0,2current weather for 64105 - Clear 88f / 31c Humidity: 42% Wind: N at 5 mph |
| 17:09.00 | itimber | yeah, much cooler today |
| 17:25.25 | dezertol | $weather 85143 |
| 17:25.25 | raifbot | 3dezertol - 0,2current weather for 85143 - Partly Cloudy 102f / 39c Humidity: 21% Wind: S at 12 mph |
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| 17:42.12 | mindjuju | this video i'm listening to about subnet masks has a 97% chance of putting me to sleep |
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| 18:13.27 | mindjuju | DtD soundtrack for Dark Knight Rises - http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=34498 |
| 18:15.55 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:15.55 | raifbot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps peno. |
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| 19:01.40 | mindjuju | hmm, let's see |
| 19:02.11 | mindjuju | I sound my barbaric yawp as i thwap mgeary over the head with a bat |
| 19:02.17 | mindjuju | sounds good to me |
| 19:02.59 | mgeary | "barbaric yawp" sounds like an oxymoron |
| 19:03.13 | mgeary | like "ferocious meow" |
| 19:03.20 | mindjuju | who am i to argue, but walt whitman said it first |
| 19:03.25 | mindjuju | so i'll let you and he argue |
| 19:03.28 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 19:03.33 | mgeary | oh, we did. he conceded my point |
| 19:03.44 | mindjuju | ah, how about that |
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| 19:03.58 | mindjuju | do you talk to any other poets? |
| 19:04.02 | mindjuju | dead poets as it were? |
| 19:04.15 | mgeary | just T.S. Eliot |
| 19:04.22 | mindjuju | curious |
| 19:04.26 | mgeary | but we usually talk about sports and stuff. not so much poetry |
| 19:04.39 | mindjuju | curiouser yet |
| 19:12.42 | josephscott | if stripe.com doesn't completely take over the web for CC payments, something else like it will |
| 19:13.00 | josephscott | ~stripe.com++ |
| 19:13.05 | josephscott | ~karma stripe.com |
| 19:13.05 | ibot | stripe.com has karma of 1 |
| 19:14.26 | ninnypants | josephscott: have you been working with the stripe api? |
| 19:17.19 | josephscott | a little bit |
| 19:17.28 | josephscott | I just love their system |
| 19:17.57 | josephscott | their logs show all the JSON API calls, along with the responses, just awesome |
| 19:18.16 | josephscott | would love to see stripe.com kill paypal |
| 19:18.20 | ninnypants | that's cool I've been wanting to play with it |
| 19:18.39 | josephscott | no need for a merchant account, so anyone can signup and test it |
| 19:18.51 | ninnypants | have a few tools I want to put out just for donations or charging $1 or something as an excuse to try the stripe api |
| 19:19.03 | fungus | The API looks nice, but since it only pays you a week later, it's not going to work for many people |
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| 19:19.27 | josephscott | fungus: worth the trade I think |
| 19:19.39 | ninnypants | that's not really much worse than square though and lots of smaller merchants use that |
| 19:19.46 | fungus | But I do see how it can enable more people that can't afford/deal with merchant accounts and whatnot. |
| 19:19.49 | mindjuju | i think it will work well enough for devs, not for businesses |
| 19:20.02 | mindjuju | that do need that real time processing |
| 19:20.20 | fungus | mindjuju, I see it, not as a replacement, but as an alternative to people who can't get a real merchant account. |
| 19:20.38 | mindjuju | yup, i concur with your opinion |
| 19:20.43 | mindjuju | just didn't speak it well |
| 19:20.47 | mindjuju | brb |
| 19:21.13 | josephscott | mindjuju: no such thing as real time processing |
| 19:21.43 | fungus | true, but a real merchant account can get you money in minutes or hours. |
| 19:22.43 | josephscott | I wonder how the costs compare |
| 19:22.53 | josephscott | since that would be part of the trade off too |
| 19:23.15 | josephscott | if it costs you less (not sure that it does, but if) to get it 7 days instead of 1, is that worth something? |
| 19:23.54 | josephscott | oh, and the joy of not having to deal with horrible APIs from most other payment gateways is definitely worth something :-) |
| 19:24.31 | fungus | I don't remember normal pricing on merchant accounts, but 2.9% + 30c sounds cheaper to me. |
| 19:25.35 | mindjuju | depending on th enumber of transactions i've seen low 2s, but nothing in the 1s (that i've seen) |
| 19:26.14 | jtsnow | Dwolla looks interesting as well. Anyone tried it? |
| 19:26.37 | mindjuju | Dwolla, love it, another fine example of side stepping cybersquatters |
| 19:27.12 | mindjuju | fungus, ever seen true blood? |
| 19:27.45 | fungus | of course. |
| 19:28.15 | mindjuju | apparently a recently aired episode had some bad guys in Obama masks |
| 19:28.26 | mindjuju | the production crew bought them from our company :) |
| 19:28.38 | fungus | Ahh, haven't seen the latest Ep. yet |
| 19:28.49 | mindjuju | so our SEO guy posted that and it's getting picked up different news agencies |
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| 19:29.47 | fungus | sucks for you, but it's a good problem to have for the sales guys. |
| 19:29.53 | josephscott | jtsnow: I've been watching Dwolla, will be interesting to see where that goes |
| 19:29.58 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:29.58 | ninnypants | mindjuju: wp super cache |
| 19:30.23 | mindjuju | ninnypants, don't recall which cache we're using |
| 19:30.42 | ninnypants | mindjuju: wp super cache does static files and can serve them through htaccess |
| 19:31.19 | ninnypants | also allows you to keep cache from being invalidated by comments when you're expecting high load |
| 19:33.18 | ninnypants | josephscott: PM? |
| 19:33.31 | josephscott | sure |
| 19:33.33 | fungus | if mindjuju is tweaking keepalive timers, it sounds like apache is his bottleneck, not php or database. |
| 19:37.25 | josephscott | ~nginx++ |
| 19:37.27 | josephscott | :-) |
| 19:37.44 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 19:37.44 | raifbot | Chuck Norris put the sword in the stone. |
| 19:38.56 | fungus | unless mindjuju is micro-optimizing a non-problem? :) |
| 19:45.30 | tierra | InsideSales needs to stop spamming the list constantly... |
| 19:46.17 | tierra | I see probably 10-15 job postings per moth for the same positions every month for the last 2+years |
| 19:46.50 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:47.06 | TuxToaster | they used to only put a couple of postings up, but recently it's been multiple positions |
| 19:47.24 | tierra | makes me think they have terrible turnover... |
| 19:47.31 | ninnypants | tierra: yeah I have UPHPU job on auto delete for a while now |
| 19:49.38 | fungus | ninnypants, isn't uphpu-jobs a separate list, just unsubscirbe. |
| 19:50.54 | fungus | sudo rsync -avW --inplace --delete-after /var/lib/mysql/ uraniumx:/var/lib/mysql/ |
| 19:51.01 | fungus | oops, wrong window |
| 19:51.19 | ninnypants | fungus: I should |
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| 19:55.22 | Bikerdan | I work at InsideSales. Sorry for the amount of postings. |
| 19:55.36 | Bikerdan | We're just growing like crazy and having a hard time finding good people to hire. |
| 19:55.53 | Bikerdan | I'll inform my HR dept of the uprising against InsideSales. |
| 19:55.58 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:56.03 | ninnypants | heh |
| 19:56.08 | TuxToaster | Bikerdan: just suggest that they change it up a bit |
| 19:56.12 | Bikerdan | I have.... |
| 19:56.17 | Bikerdan | The posting is horrible. |
| 19:56.20 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:56.27 | Bikerdan | Again... I appologize. |
| 19:56.37 | TuxToaster | I interviewed there a couple of years ago, and that's pretty much identical to what it was then. |
| 19:56.38 | Bikerdan | Sounds like marketing got ahold of the posting. |
| 19:56.40 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: would you like us all to start replying and letting them know they should change up the postings ;) |
| 19:56.46 | Bikerdan | Yes. |
| 19:56.46 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:56.47 | Bikerdan | Please. |
| 19:57.11 | Bikerdan | Sounds like they want every qualification under the sun. |
| 19:57.39 | Bikerdan | When all we REALLY care about is PHP, HTML, CSS, Apache, ... Basically LAMP. |
| 19:57.50 | TuxToaster | yeah, they could drop the "rockstar" crap and tell people *why* they are different, would go a long ways |
| 19:57.58 | Bikerdan | I agree. |
| 19:58.15 | ninnypants | heh I saw a RoR listing that only the creator of RoR would have qualified for because of the years of exp. |
| 19:58.25 | TuxToaster | like I remember them telling me about taking most of the company to Hawaii. |
| 19:58.29 | Bikerdan | But it is a good list of all of the technologies that you're likely to be able to deal with and learn here. |
| 19:58.55 | Bikerdan | TuxToaster: InsideSales? |
| 19:59.17 | TuxToaster | I think so. Though I could be merging that with a different one. |
| 19:59.24 | Bikerdan | Nope. That was true. |
| 20:00.02 | Bikerdan | We're too big to do that now though. |
| 20:00.16 | TuxToaster | just seems like the posting could point out something cool about the culture to tell people why they want to work there. |
| 20:00.43 | Bikerdan | I think that's what they're trying to do by listing all of the *cool* technologies you would get to play with. |
| 20:00.57 | TuxToaster | heh, you get that at a lot of jobs though |
| 20:01.03 | TuxToaster | or in spare time |
| 20:01.05 | Bikerdan | But it sounds more like you have to be an expert in all of them. |
| 20:01.10 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 20:01.19 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:01.19 | raifbot | eats unum and falls over dead. |
| 20:01.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:01.41 | TuxToaster | unum == purple mushroom from Mario: Lost Levels |
| 20:01.52 | Bikerdan | How often is too often to post to the employement list? |
| 20:02.12 | ninnypants | so what are peoples set testing procedures for projects? |
| 20:02.44 | TuxToaster | I wouldn't say that there's a "too often" as much as just changing things up a bit... possibly consolidating postings or something. The main issue with them is that they post like 6 different jobs all at once, and repost the exact same thing every other month |
| 20:02.54 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: it seems like the exact same thing every week which I think was the problem |
| 20:03.07 | TuxToaster | there are others that post one or two postings every so often that aren't bad |
| 20:03.10 | Bikerdan | I'll make sure they think of that. |
| 20:11.41 | ninnypants | I wonder what inspired veracity to switch to ninjas to describe their network speeds |
| 20:13.50 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:15.04 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: is that because the speeds are really fast, or because, like a ninja, they're stealthy and hardly there? |
| 20:16.55 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I think it depends on the day |
| 20:17.12 | ninnypants | though I'm disappointed that I can't get the 90/90 without adding phone service |
| 20:17.26 | TuxToaster | yeah that sucks |
| 20:17.27 | ninnypants | though 30/30 should be fine |
| 20:17.41 | TuxToaster | how much is 30/30? |
| 20:18.02 | ninnypants | $55 if you include the gateway fee |
| 20:18.07 | TuxToaster | gah. |
| 20:18.20 | TuxToaster | I pay Comcast about $85/mo for internet only. |
| 20:18.35 | TuxToaster | I'm lucky if I see the 30 down. |
| 20:19.22 | ninnypants | yeah I'm pretty happy with Veracity though I still wish it was cheaper since I think you can get 50/50 on Utopia for something like $35 |
| 20:19.49 | Bikerdan | ninnypants: Do you ever see an actual 30 down? How close do you get? |
| 20:19.52 | DexterTheDragon | 50/50 for $42 at xmission |
| 20:19.56 | TuxToaster | yeah, where I live I probably won't see fiber for a very long time |
| 20:19.59 | ninnypants | mgeary: have you looked at veracity prices lately? Might be able to get a better deal |
| 20:20.21 | mgeary | wow |
| 20:20.38 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: I'm on an older 15/5 plan right now and it's at a consistant 13+ most of the time and the up is almost always 5+ |
| 20:20.39 | mgeary | i've been dealing with this on-and-off for the last 3 weeks |
| 20:21.00 | Bikerdan | That's the plan I'm on but I don't usually see above 8 down. |
| 20:21.05 | mgeary | ninnypants: i was looking at veracity prices like 2 minutes ago. Why do you ask me that now? |
| 20:21.09 | mgeary | are you spying on me? |
| 20:21.15 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:21.41 | ninnypants | mgeary: yeah remember when I did some freelance work for you a few years ago? I installed a tracker through skype ;) |
| 20:21.43 | mgeary | i knew it |
| 20:21.54 | ninnypants | mgeary: just knew you had an older veracity plan |
| 20:22.15 | mgeary | i manage a couple of 4-plexes. apparently the contract just expired with Veracity, and they jacked my cost up $80 per building |
| 20:22.25 | mgeary | you know, as a nice thank-you for years of business |
| 20:22.32 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: interesting I had a slow spot for a little bit where I was getting something like 10 down but it's been picking up again |
| 20:22.33 | TuxToaster | ouch |
| 20:22.59 | Bikerdan | ninnypants: I'll have to check again. It's been a while. |
| 20:23.15 | ninnypants | mgeary: is that on small business internet? |
| 20:23.30 | mgeary | so i'm thinking now that rather than having a connection to each apartment, i'll just get a single 60mb connection for each building and have them all on the same wifi |
| 20:23.34 | mgeary | save a ton of money |
| 20:24.01 | mgeary | ninnypants: no. apparently 4-plexes are still residential |
| 20:24.32 | ninnypants | mgeary: ahh I thought maybe it was small biz since you were buying the internet but residential is a way better deal |
| 20:25.13 | mgeary | yeah, though frankly, they've been jerks to me as i've tried to get my old rate back. Been trying to talk to a decision maker for 3 weeks now |
| 20:25.13 | ninnypants | mgeary: yeah if you went with the 90/90 plus phone it would be only a little more than the $80 you have to pay now |
| 20:25.22 | mgeary | don't need phone |
| 20:25.25 | mgeary | just internet |
| 20:25.42 | ninnypants | yeah wasn't thinking you'd use the phone just get the 90/90 |
| 20:25.52 | mgeary | the only thing i wonder about is if they can claim some sort of violation of terms of use, and somehow not let me use a single connection for the entire building |
| 20:25.54 | ninnypants | if I had the money I would probably do it |
| 20:26.45 | ninnypants | possibly |
| 20:27.51 | ninnypants | mgeary: do you have a set of testing guidelines there at Treeline? |
| 20:28.07 | fungus | wow, the disparity for business connections and residential is getting huge. |
| 20:28.36 | fungus | My company is still paying $4k/mo for a 50 mbps connection from Qwest |
| 20:28.58 | Bikerdan | $4k? |
| 20:29.02 | fungus | yeah |
| 20:29.04 | herlo | fungus: it's CenturyLink now, because well they're not very young or capable anymore. |
| 20:29.06 | Bikerdan | Wow. |
| 20:29.21 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: you're getting shanked |
| 20:29.23 | TuxToaster | fungus: QMoE? |
| 20:29.29 | fungus | yeah, QMoE |
| 20:29.31 | mgeary | ninnypants: we actually put the burden of testing on our clients, or have them outsource it. |
| 20:29.33 | herlo | Their hips and legs are all worn out, made of copper. Not so mobile. |
| 20:30.04 | fungus | We are under contract till early next year. |
| 20:30.11 | TuxToaster | yeah, we looked at doing that once at one of my old jobs. Was a better deal than the multiple T1 and T3s we had |
| 20:30.32 | fungus | But we have a new 100mbps connection from Comcast coming in about a month. |
| 20:30.39 | fungus | Only about $1.5k/mo |
| 20:31.22 | ninnypants | mgeary: what kind of apps do you build there? You do mostly apps and not company websites right? |
| 20:31.56 | TuxToaster | fungus: for $1.5k I hope they give you a decent SLA and live up to it |
| 20:32.16 | fungus | Yeah, This is Comcast business over fiber. |
| 20:32.35 | TuxToaster | I've had troubles with them before on their "business class" lines where they would be down for hours at a time and they could have cared less |
| 20:32.58 | mgeary | ninnypants: all of the above. We do all kinds of design and development. When we do web app development, it really varies, from e-commerce to custom CMS systems, to membership/subscription systems, to … just, whatever |
| 20:32.59 | fungus | Their fiber products are handled by a different division completely. |
| 20:33.04 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 20:33.09 | josephscott | 100mbps sounds fun, but the $1.5k/mo is a bit rough |
| 20:33.25 | fungus | And the comcast connection isn't my primary here, it's redundant |
| 20:33.33 | mgeary | ninnypants: i'm trying to get some additional work in to fill up our capacity, if you know of anything |
| 20:33.54 | Bikerdan | I wonder what the average upload speeds are at places we commonly download from... |
| 20:33.56 | TuxToaster | josephscott: agreed, for that you could buy a new MBP every month |
| 20:34.33 | TuxToaster | fungus: always amazes me what some companies will pay for bandwidth |
| 20:34.51 | ninnypants | mgeary: sadly I don't I'm trying to set up out testing procedures. We're doing a lot more and faster so I'm trying to define some set stuff to help keep things from falling through the cracks |
| 20:34.52 | TuxToaster | though at least you're getting them. I hate having to fight for connectivity |
| 20:34.53 | fungus | It is, but it's necessary for mission critical stuff |
| 20:35.02 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 20:35.40 | fungus | I got fancy SLAs, dedicated sales rep cell phone number, uber priority support, etc. |
| 20:36.08 | fungus | Same thing w/ my XO and Clink connections. |
| 20:36.10 | ninnypants | mgeary: problem is it all seems like common sense to me so I was hoping to look at stuff others have put together to give me some ideas. Currently all I have is test in all major browsers for design and functionality differences which is obvious |
| 20:36.41 | TuxToaster | fungus: you have more fun than I did. Our dedicated support and SLAs usually got me people who had < 0 clue about the account or the issue I was calling about |
| 20:36.52 | Bikerdan | What do you guys think is going on here? http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=21191298&cat=&lpid=4&search=windows%207 |
| 20:36.55 | TuxToaster | especially if Qwest or Oracle were involved |
| 20:36.56 | fungus | bummer. |
| 20:37.27 | fungus | We send so much business to them in other venues, they treat us like Gods. |
| 20:37.29 | TuxToaster | Bikerdan: could be a tactic to sell something else... hard to say |
| 20:37.38 | Bikerdan | Maybe that was mahelious' ad... |
| 20:38.03 | mindjuju | i've seen stuff like this on ebay and they almost always are pirated or already used serials |
| 20:38.18 | mindjuju | and winders no likey you use on new machines, have limited install to new hardware |
| 20:38.21 | Bikerdan | But its GUARANTEED! |
| 20:38.23 | fungus | Telcos seem to bend over backwards to help when you pay tens of thousands of dollars per month |
| 20:38.23 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 20:38.40 | Bikerdan | Isn't that only the OEM version mindjuju? |
| 20:38.40 | TuxToaster | fungus: I'd have thought that applied with us as well, particularly with Qwest, as we had a few thousand customers that were paying them for lines to use our services.. but we were treated like crap. :P |
| 20:38.42 | mindjuju | that said Bikerdan, i know where you can get a FABULOUS deal on software : ubuntu.com |
| 20:38.53 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 20:39.08 | mindjuju | course if it were jsmith, he'd point you to fedora |
| 20:39.11 | mindjuju | but i don't know that URL |
| 20:39.27 | mindjuju | or herlo knows, in fact, herlo HAS a fedora |
| 20:39.29 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: http://fedora.org/ |
| 20:39.37 | mindjuju | i've never seen jsmith with a fedora, he don't represent |
| 20:39.55 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: are you saying you don't trust Chip? |
| 20:40.07 | mindjuju | thx for the URL TuxToaster |
| 20:40.08 | TuxToaster | it's actually http://fedoraproject.org/ but I couldn't help the hotdog. |
| 20:40.09 | Bikerdan | So is linux still cheaper if I spend well over $100 in my hours trying to get it all set up perfectly? |
| 20:40.23 | Bikerdan | ninnypants: :) |
| 20:40.33 | mindjuju | are you saying you HAVEN'T spent the same time getting winders to work? |
| 20:40.40 | Bikerdan | Not really. |
| 20:40.43 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: you must not have clicked the link |
| 20:40.50 | mindjuju | in downloading drivers or trying to get some weird 3rd party driver to work in vista or win 7? |
| 20:40.59 | Bikerdan | Actually.. I haven't. |
| 20:41.05 | Bikerdan | Not for a loooonng time. |
| 20:41.09 | mindjuju | o.0 curious |
| 20:41.27 | mindjuju | old periphrals was the first thing we took a hit on, on upgrade |
| 20:41.29 | Bikerdan | Just saying... I'm not really a windows fan. But 7 is pretty solid. |
| 20:41.47 | mindjuju | peripherals even |
| 20:41.59 | Bikerdan | How old? |
| 20:42.25 | Bikerdan | Usually it's the new ones that I have the most problems with. |
| 20:42.44 | mindjuju | i can remember a scanner issue, an epson and a printer issue |
| 20:42.52 | ninnypants | yeah 7 has pretty good drivers for basically everything I've plugged in |
| 20:42.53 | Bikerdan | What OS? |
| 20:43.02 | mindjuju | now, i do acknowledge some of that is the manufactor \ |
| 20:43.18 | mindjuju | vista |
| 20:43.42 | Bikerdan | I avoid vista... It's not a valid operating system. |
| 20:43.52 | ninnypants | mindjuju: there's a reason most people wont touch vista ;) |
| 20:44.06 | mindjuju | yeah, and if i had a call on it, i'd avoid it myself |
| 20:44.11 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 20:44.21 | mindjuju | but what the business has, is what you use |
| 20:44.27 | mindjuju | unless you're self employed |
| 20:44.27 | Bikerdan | True. |
| 20:44.38 | herlo | mindjuju: Bikerdan: get.fedoraproject.org |
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| 20:44.52 | Bikerdan | My experience is mostly personal. I don't have to manage a lot of PCs |
| 20:45.00 | ninnypants | mindjuju: are you running Vista on your laptop? |
| 20:45.05 | mindjuju | and on the other hand, Bikerdan, i did recently get called a poop head for trying to get nvidia video card working with ubuntu 12.04 |
| 20:45.12 | mindjuju | ninnypants, this was a work issue |
| 20:45.14 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 20:45.16 | mindjuju | not a me issue |
| 20:45.27 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I figured it was a work laptop |
| 20:45.51 | josephscott | haha, poop head |
| 20:46.00 | mindjuju | btw, i figured out a way to get past my poop-headedness and get 12.04 working happily on nvidia |
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| 20:46.08 | mindjuju | i'm going to blog it some year when i'm in retirement |
| 20:46.09 | Bikerdan | Isn't poop head one of the ubuntu versions? |
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| 20:46.31 | mindjuju | for a while the ubuntu desktop was a sickly-poop yellow |
| 20:46.58 | mindjuju | ^5 eggyknap |
| 20:47.11 | eggyknap | 'course, it's a bit customized... :) |
| 20:47.32 | Bikerdan | So to my original question: "01So is linux still cheaper if I spend well over $100 in my hours trying to get it all set up perfectly?01" |
| 20:47.43 | eggyknap | one box uses a customized auto-installer of some Ubuntu version; the others netboot some other minimalist version from the first one. |
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| 20:48.30 | fungus | Bikerdan, depends on what you want to do w/ it. |
| 20:48.38 | mindjuju | Bikerdan, i still think yes |
| 20:48.40 | Bikerdan | Could be true. |
| 20:48.43 | fungus | Web dev, absolutely |
| 20:48.44 | Bikerdan | Example? |
| 20:49.04 | mindjuju | admin asst using ubuntu + open office |
| 20:49.25 | Bikerdan | Guess it largly depends on the hardware. |
| 20:49.46 | fungus | bending Windows to run Apache, PHP, etc. takes as much, or more effort than Linux |
| 20:49.53 | Bikerdan | Not really. |
| 20:49.57 | Bikerdan | Not in my experience. |
| 20:50.14 | Bikerdan | There are packages that make that setup a breeze. |
| 20:50.17 | Bikerdan | wamp |
| 20:50.31 | ninnypants | xampp |
| 20:51.02 | ninnypants | though 90% of my dev is on a remote server anymore |
| 20:51.13 | Bikerdan | Same here. |
| 20:52.04 | ninnypants | *ubuntu |
| 20:53.07 | romanovic | anyone see this ouya on kickstarter? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/comments |
| 20:53.25 | fungus | ninnypants, don't use FTP |
| 20:53.28 | fungus | FTP is bad |
| 20:54.21 | peno | ftp is as bad as doing drugs |
| 20:54.35 | mindjuju | yeah! naughty ninnypants!! Fungus! what in the world is that over there? <cough>filezilla</cough> |
| 20:55.15 | tierra | anyone else on Comcast been having serious problems with latency today? |
| 20:55.48 | mindjuju | Bikerdan, maybe this is a case where "mileage may vary"? now that i've gotten into the swing of things, i'm finding more reasons to like linux, but winders has it's place too |
| 20:56.06 | ninnypants | fungus: ok I couldn't find a decent SFTP client ;) |
| 20:56.34 | Bikerdan | True. I just always hear that windows is sooo much more expensive than Linux, but nobody takes time into account. |
| 20:56.38 | fungus | ninnypants, hehe, `sftp` |
| 20:56.51 | fungus | Or use Nautilus to mount it |
| 20:57.04 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I wouldn't call filezilla a decent client |
| 20:57.15 | mindjuju | really? i've enjoyed using it |
| 20:57.20 | mindjuju | does the job, stabe |
| 20:57.51 | fungus | ninnypants, open Ubuntu Software Center -> search for SFTP |
| 20:57.55 | fungus | even more options |
| 20:57.56 | ninnypants | I dislike it for remote editing I use winSCP or Transmission to connect with ssh and autosave to the server |
| 20:58.31 | ninnypants | fungus: I tried a bunch of them and wasn't too happy I thought filezilla was the best available |
| 20:58.43 | Bikerdan | ninnypants: you could use an editor with SFTP built in. |
| 20:58.44 | fungus | Oh, i guess it's about personal opinions I guess. |
| 20:58.49 | fungus | I hate WinSCP |
| 20:59.13 | peno | you don't like the norton commander interface? :) |
| 20:59.28 | fungus | not really |
| 20:59.37 | Bikerdan | You can change to an explorer interface. |
| 20:59.45 | TuxToaster | I used FlashFXP for most (S)FTP stuff on Windows |
| 21:00.08 | TuxToaster | mostly because it supported FXP as well, which was nice |
| 21:00.08 | fungus | If I have to use SFTP on windows which is almost never, I just use putty |
| 21:00.51 | Bikerdan | PuTTY with PuTTY Connection Manager on windows is a nice setup. |
| 21:01.49 | fungus | and don't get me started in complaining about putty on windows. ugh. |
| 21:01.55 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: I thought about getting that setup with Sublime but I haven't really liked using an in editor client |
| 21:02.01 | fungus | It's the best i've found, but I still hate it |
| 21:02.12 | fungus | give me OpenSSH any day |
| 21:02.46 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: sshfs |
| 21:02.49 | Bikerdan | ninnypants: Have you tried the one in Netbeans? |
| 21:03.05 | TuxToaster | ~brick macnewbold |
| 21:03.05 | ibot | ACTION installs a bad bootloader on macnewbold and turns macnewbold into a brick |
| 21:03.07 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: nope I've never used netbeans |
| 21:03.18 | Bikerdan | U missin out |
| 21:03.36 | Bikerdan | What do you use? |
| 21:03.52 | josephscott | must be the 2nd Tuesday of the month |
| 21:04.00 | ninnypants | cause I really like Sublime Text |
| 21:04.12 | Bikerdan | You should at least try netbeans. |
| 21:04.20 | Bikerdan | I have both and sublime text is nice. |
| 21:04.42 | Bikerdan | But Netbeans is so much more usable for PHP editing. |
| 21:05.26 | Bikerdan | xdebug active debugging, ctrl click code jumping, sftp remote editing... |
| 21:05.45 | Bikerdan | Manages projects really well. |
| 21:06.25 | Bikerdan | A developer here uses a vi plugin in Netbeans. :) |
| 21:07.14 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: maybe I should use vi mode in ST ;) |
| 21:07.27 | Bikerdan | If that floats your boat. |
| 21:07.32 | Bikerdan | :) |
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| 21:07.36 | ninnypants | though I do need to setup xdebug for ST |
| 21:07.51 | Bikerdan | Does ST support step thru debugging? |
| 21:08.03 | ninnypants | not sure |
| 21:08.05 | Bikerdan | Breakpoints, watches, etc... |
| 21:18.06 | josephscott | anyone used http://myhosting.com/ ? |
| 21:19.35 | carmony | hey Heartsbane |
| 21:20.16 | ninnypants | seems like any other shared host though |
| 21:21.09 | ninnypants | ahh |
| 21:21.31 | herlo | though I don't use them, yet |
| 21:22.51 | josephscott | prgrmr.com? |
| 21:23.49 | ninnypants | josephscott: seems pretty competitive for the price from what I've seen |
| 21:24.23 | josephscott | no ubuntu option though :-( |
| 21:25.52 | ninnypants | josephscott: have you looked at http://www.thrustvps.com/ |
| 21:26.08 | tierra | josephscott: in my experience, most Virtuozzo-powered VPS providers usually suck, mostly because Virtuozzo allows them to over-provision resources since they all share RAM |
| 21:26.18 | ninnypants | you can get a 1gb vps for $15 a month |
| 21:26.19 | josephscott | tierra: fun |
| 21:26.34 | josephscott | ninnypants: yeah, something wasn't right about it, don't recall now |
| 21:27.00 | tierra | not to say that there isn't providers out there smart enough to not over-provision, but I think that's usually the reason they go with Virtuozzo |
| 21:27.03 | ninnypants | hmm mine works pretty well |
| 21:27.28 | ninnypants | was it an issue with buying or actually using? |
| 21:27.41 | josephscott | I think it was the memory options |
| 21:30.56 | herlo | http://stoneskippingrobot.com/ <-- for those of you working in an office building, here's something fun. |
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| 21:33.40 | TuxToaster | awesome. |
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| 21:37.58 | fungus | over provisioning RAM isn't a bad thing, if it's monitored well and capacity can be expanded quickly. |
| 21:41.53 | Heartsbane | carmony: sup |
| 21:42.51 | josephscott | fungus: spoken like a true bofh ;-) |
| 21:43.25 | fungus | Especially since RAM is the capacity bottleneck in most cases. |
| 21:44.34 | herlo | TuxToaster: you like/ |
| 21:44.35 | herlo | ? |
| 21:44.45 | fungus | I've never used Virtuozzo, so I don't know if it does it poorly or anything. I'm just sayin' over provisioning isn't bad itself. |
| 21:46.03 | herlo | virtuozzo isn't bad for over provisioning, generally speaking. Since it uses one kernel for your containers and usually one set of software. I haven't tried to kill the system with too many containers though, so I can't say how it would fail, if it failed at all. |
| 21:46.07 | TuxToaster | herlo: yup, pretty cool |
| 21:46.17 | TuxToaster | plus the view is nice |
| 21:46.25 | herlo | TuxToaster: I skipped a stone this morning, way cool |
| 21:46.43 | herlo | TuxToaster: yeah, takes about 20 minutes in line, and you can't do it after dark. |
| 21:46.48 | herlo | skippy gets scared of the dark :) |
| 21:47.02 | TuxToaster | reminds me of the remote cameras that you can take and pan & zoom |
| 21:47.14 | TuxToaster | but has the added fun of throwing a rock. :P |
| 21:47.18 | herlo | yeah, I like the controls on this one, pretty snazzy. |
| 21:47.44 | herlo | someone sits there all day loading rocks though, that's kind of crazy |
| 21:49.23 | ninnypants | they probably just load a bunch at one time and can leave it for a few hours |
| 21:49.50 | herlo | ninnypants: nope |
| 21:49.58 | ninnypants | looked like they had a set up on it similar to what you see with auto clay pigeon throwers |
| 21:50.01 | herlo | you can hear the guy in the background announcing names and dropping rocks |
| 21:50.43 | herlo | ninnypants: plus the video shows skippy from the front and side, I don't think there's a spot for something with a bunch of rocks in it.... |
| 21:50.50 | herlo | it was hard to tell though. |
| 21:50.51 | TuxToaster | oh I didn't hear the guy |
| 21:50.53 | TuxToaster | just the rock |
| 21:51.00 | TuxToaster | I thought it was fully automated |
| 21:51.11 | ninnypants | it doesn't load up for me |
| 21:51.17 | herlo | TuxToaster: if you watch for a while, they guy sat there and talked... |
| 21:51.18 | ninnypants | figured it only loaded when it was your turn |
| 21:51.39 | herlo | ninnypants: nah, you can watch it for a while once you get to #12 or so in line |
| 21:51.57 | herlo | http://stoneskippingrobot.com/meet-skippy |
| 21:57.19 | carmony | Heartsbane: where we doing lunch tomorrow? |
| 21:57.36 | Heartsbane | PM |
| 21:58.10 | herlo | lame, I wanted to know so I could crash it! |
| 22:01.36 | fungus | http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/assets_c/2009/08/table-10514.html |
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| 22:13.27 | Heartsbane | fungus: lol |
| 22:14.10 | carmony | fungus: o.O |
| 22:14.14 | macnewbold | ew, don't click it |
| 22:14.16 | mindjuju | any c++ nerds about? |
| 22:14.28 | macnewbold | mindjuju: i did c++ many many moons ago |
| 22:14.30 | carmony | herlo: I'm sure heartsbane would let you crash our lunch :P |
| 22:14.53 | mindjuju | macnewbold, is it right to say that an array is actually a constant pointer to a memory address? |
| 22:15.39 | herlo | carmony: lol, I don't want to cause pain |
| 22:15.58 | carmony | we'll need to do a geek lunch sometime |
| 22:16.10 | herlo | carmony: you and Heartsbane enjoy your date, I can meet up with ya later :) |
| 22:16.20 | mindjuju | i was just thinking the same thing herlo |
| 22:16.38 | mindjuju | wouldn't want to fifth wheel the event ;) |
| 22:16.45 | carmony | LOL |
| 22:16.57 | herlo | lol |
| 22:17.06 | ninnypants | macnewbold: any relation to the 6yo? http://www.ksl.com/?sid=21194209&nid=148&title=neighbor-arrested-in-murder-of-6-year-old-sierra-newbold |
| 22:17.26 | herlo | mindjuju: I know, right?! |
| 22:17.36 | macnewbold | ninnypants: fortunately, no. that is such a sad sad thing. |
| 22:17.43 | macnewbold | mindjuju: yes |
| 22:17.44 | mindjuju | i mean, i never invite you guys to my dates with Tiffany, though i do sometimes take you places that we've gone on dates before, like 4seasons hot pots and dumplings in Provo |
| 22:17.59 | macnewbold | ~LOLstats carmony |
| 22:17.59 | ibot | carmony has said LOL 83 times (12.3 %), ranked 4/40 (percentile: 10.0 %) |
| 22:18.07 | macnewbold | almost there, carmony :) |
| 22:18.13 | macnewbold | ~lolstats SunSparc_ |
| 22:18.13 | ibot | SunSparc_ has said lol 7 times (0.1 %), ranked 32/110 (percentile: 29.1 %) |
| 22:18.17 | macnewbold | ~lolstats SunSparc |
| 22:18.17 | ibot | SunSparc has said lol 468 times (10.0 %), ranked 5/110 (percentile: 4.5 %) |
| 22:18.29 | macnewbold | 5th? someone overtook the SunSparc? |
| 22:18.31 | macnewbold | ~lolstats |
| 22:18.31 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 4675. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 781 (16.7%), carmony -- 546 (11.7%), macnewbold -- 478 (10.2%) |
| 22:18.40 | herlo | macnewbold: me |
| 22:18.45 | macnewbold | ~lolstats herlo |
| 22:18.45 | ibot | herlo has said lol 478 times (10.2 %), ranked 4/110 (percentile: 3.6 %) |
| 22:18.48 | macnewbold | yay! |
| 22:18.51 | herlo | lol |
| 22:18.55 | herlo | that should overtake you |
| 22:18.56 | macnewbold | ~lolstats |
| 22:18.56 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 4676. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 781 (16.7%), carmony -- 546 (11.7%), herlo -- 479 (10.2%) |
| 22:18.57 | herlo | :P |
| 22:19.01 | macnewbold | I am victorious!!!!!! |
| 22:19.02 | TuxToaster | $lart macnewbold |
| 22:19.02 | raifbot | throws macnewbold's poor little doggy off a cliff. |
| 22:19.06 | herlo | lol |
| 22:19.10 | herlo | seriously funny |
| 22:19.18 | macnewbold | no need to cement your lead |
| 22:19.21 | TuxToaster | carmony: ^^ |
| 22:19.27 | SunSparc_ | ~lart macnewbold |
| 22:19.27 | ibot | installs PocketPC on macnewbold's PDA |
| 22:19.30 | herlo | macnewbold: I wasn't, really. I thought that was funny |
| 22:19.47 | herlo | macnewbold: besides, I have a while to go to catch carmony |
| 22:19.50 | macnewbold | you'll have to lol a lot to catch carmony and TuxToaster… they're in here giggling like school girls all day long |
| 22:19.56 | herlo | and more yet to catch TuxToaster |
| 22:19.59 | macnewbold | ~giggle TuxToaster |
| 22:20.00 | herlo | probably never happen |
| 22:20.30 | herlo | macnewbold: not really trying, just figured since I was close the other day, ti would be easy to be on the top 3 list :P |
| 22:20.47 | TuxToaster | fungus: awkward, btw |
| 22:21.02 | fungus | Why? do you have a dirty mind? |
| 22:21.04 | fungus | :) |
| 22:21.50 | TuxToaster | ~pie macnewbold |
| 22:21.50 | ibot | ACTION hits macnewbold in the face with a cream pie |
| 22:21.56 | macnewbold | limh |
| 22:22.05 | TuxToaster | ~limhstats |
| 22:22.11 | macnewbold | bwahahaha |
| 22:22.20 | macnewbold | i can limh all day long and nobody can stat me |
| 22:22.28 | Heartsbane | Anyone have a old iPhone 4 |
| 22:22.41 | macnewbold | Heartsbane: define "old" |
| 22:22.45 | TuxToaster | total count of limh on #uphpu: 9999. Top 1: macnewbold -- 999 (100%) |
| 22:22.45 | herlo | ~bwahahahastats |
| 22:22.46 | SunSparc | Heartsbane: My wife does. |
| 22:22.56 | TuxToaster | fail |
| 22:22.58 | macnewbold | i have an iPhone 4 |
| 22:22.59 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:23.06 | macnewbold | ~teach TuxToaster math |
| 22:23.07 | ibot | ACTION sits TuxToaster down and forces TuxToaster to learn to math, even if it takes 15 years |
| 22:23.32 | TuxToaster | wait, what? 999 == 9999. |
| 22:23.34 | Heartsbane | SunSparc: good condition |
| 22:23.37 | Heartsbane | ? |
| 22:23.39 | macnewbold | 100% |
| 22:23.41 | TuxToaster | and 2+2=5 |
| 22:23.58 | dezertol | for very large values of 2 |
| 22:24.02 | TuxToaster | exactly |
| 22:24.06 | macnewbold | this is PHP, not Javascript - 999 != 9999 in php, even though " 999" and " 9999" may be equal |
| 22:24.07 | TuxToaster | so that was just a very large value of 999 |
| 22:24.11 | mindjuju | 10 days to dark knight rises |
| 22:24.13 | Heartsbane | macnewbold: what condition is it in? |
| 22:24.27 | macnewbold | Heartsbane: very good |
| 22:24.28 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: WAT |
| 22:24.37 | SunSparc | Heartsbane: yes, why? |
| 22:24.51 | dezertol | you see the trailer for Total Recall .. the remake |
| 22:24.56 | macnewbold | yeah, no ahnold |
| 22:24.59 | mindjuju | o.0 |
| 22:25.04 | mindjuju | remake? |
| 22:25.08 | dezertol | ya |
| 22:25.09 | mindjuju | total recall? |
| 22:25.09 | dezertol | aug 3 |
| 22:25.12 | mindjuju | no way |
| 22:25.13 | macnewbold | Heartsbane: if you're getting ideas, it's insured... |
| 22:25.17 | SunSparc | Remakes are about all they do these days. |
| 22:25.18 | dezertol | total recall |
| 22:25.27 | mindjuju | fo sho SunSparc |
| 22:25.39 | dezertol | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386703/ |
| 22:25.50 | mindjuju | i wonder if they are going to remake Singing in the Rain |
| 22:25.59 | Heartsbane | macnewbold: oh cause I have a coworker looking to pick up an old one, if anyone is getting rid of theirs |
| 22:26.01 | mindjuju | with crunk and crunk dancing |
| 22:26.03 | macnewbold | ah |
| 22:26.06 | macnewbold | i still use mine daily |
| 22:26.20 | macnewbold | and it's a verizon iphone4, and those don't get too much older than mine |
| 22:26.29 | carmony | :O!!!!! |
| 22:26.34 | carmony | he is off the list?! |
| 22:26.40 | Heartsbane | SunSparc: that applies to you as well |
| 22:26.51 | macnewbold | ~:-Ostats |
| 22:27.08 | TuxToaster | ~macnewboldstats |
| 22:27.20 | macnewbold | ~stats TuxToaster |
| 22:27.28 | macnewbold | ~ignore TuxToaster |
| 22:27.28 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, TuxToaster!" |
| 22:27.39 | TuxToaster | ~brackets macnewbold |
| 22:28.01 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:28.02 | dezertol | I didn't know Ibot identified it's self as a girl |
| 22:28.09 | TuxToaster | dezertol: yup |
| 22:28.20 | dezertol | and all this time.. I could have been flirting with her |
| 22:28.29 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 22:28.43 | macnewbold | ibot has gender confusion issues |
| 22:28.45 | macnewbold | ~ibot |
| 22:28.45 | ibot | i heard ibot is not a help system |
| 22:28.48 | macnewbold | ~jbot |
| 22:28.48 | ibot | from memory, jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass, or ibot's stupid cousin |
| 22:28.51 | macnewbold | ~purl |
| 22:28.51 | ibot | purl is probably the only good thing about sc2mapster |
| 22:29.15 | macnewbold | ~gender ibot |
| 22:29.15 | ibot | I heard ibot is female. |
| 22:29.19 | macnewbold | ~gender TuxToaster |
| 22:29.19 | ibot | I heard TuxToaster is pregnant. |
| 22:29.24 | macnewbold | ~gender Heartsbane |
| 22:29.24 | ibot | I heard Heartsbane is female. |
| 22:29.24 | TuxToaster | !!! |
| 22:29.29 | macnewbold | ~gender herlo |
| 22:29.29 | ibot | I heard herlo is pregnant. |
| 22:29.32 | macnewbold | ~gender carmony |
| 22:29.32 | ibot | I heard carmony is not sure. |
| 22:29.33 | herlo | w00t! |
| 22:29.35 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:29.38 | herlo | due every decembeR! |
| 22:29.39 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 22:29.41 | herlo | lol |
| 22:29.44 | macnewbold | oh this is goooood |
| 22:29.49 | Heartsbane | I hate that bot |
| 22:29.50 | TuxToaster | ~gender macnewbold |
| 22:29.50 | ibot | I heard macnewbold is gay. |
| 22:29.53 | macnewbold | haha |
| 22:29.54 | mindjuju | so dezertol, i just saw the trailer for total recall |
| 22:29.54 | herlo | lol |
| 22:29.54 | TuxToaster | HA |
| 22:29.55 | SunSparc | LOL!!! |
| 22:29.56 | herlo | even better! |
| 22:29.58 | mindjuju | i'm not seeing an mutants |
| 22:30.15 | macnewbold | they're martians |
| 22:30.34 | mindjuju | oh in the original book they are martians? |
| 22:30.34 | dezertol | Colin Farrell is a mutant |
| 22:30.50 | mindjuju | i never read the book actually |
| 22:30.57 | macnewbold | there's a book? |
| 22:31.06 | mindjuju | piers anthony if i recall |
| 22:31.08 | dezertol | damn.. I'll have to get the book |
| 22:31.19 | mindjuju | written some time ago, short story |
| 22:31.21 | dezertol | I did'nt know there was a book either |
| 22:31.27 | mindjuju | i've read other stuff of his, but not that one |
| 22:31.29 | dezertol | pre-movie |
| 22:31.33 | dezertol | or post moive |
| 22:31.42 | dezertol | I hate when they make a book "from" the movie |
| 22:31.48 | dezertol | they read like fan fiction |
| 22:33.55 | mindjuju | oh sorry about that, i thought it was the other way around |
| 22:34.03 | mindjuju | didn't realize book based on movie |
| 22:34.14 | mindjuju | doesn't count |
| 22:35.06 | dezertol | I don't know if it is or not I was asking |
| 22:35.21 | dezertol | should have used a ? |
| 22:35.22 | dezertol | lol |
| 22:35.23 | mindjuju | i'm looking at wikipedia now, it IS based on the movie |
| 22:35.28 | dezertol | boo |
| 22:35.33 | dezertol | k.. then I won't read it |
| 22:36.20 | mindjuju | actually dezertol, i found this |
| 22:36.32 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick |
| 22:36.51 | mindjuju | and it is a short story, i'm going to have to read some of these |
| 22:36.55 | mindjuju | i know these movies |
| 22:39.08 | dezertol | ah.. |
| 22:39.12 | dezertol | ya.. |
| 22:39.15 | dezertol | I'mve seen most of them |
| 22:39.20 | mindjuju | yup, cool huh? |
| 22:39.23 | dezertol | ya |
| 22:39.24 | mindjuju | loved blade runner |
| 22:39.28 | dezertol | I'll have to check out som of his stories |
| 22:39.31 | dezertol | ya |
| 22:39.38 | dezertol | blade runner was cool |
| 22:40.00 | dezertol | Paycheck was awesome to |
| 22:40.10 | dezertol | smashes his big toe |
| 22:40.12 | dezertol | ouch.. |
| 22:43.12 | dezertol | nice kindle edition -> http://www.amazon.com/Do-Androids-Dream-Electric-Sheep/dp/0345404475/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341960157&sr=8-1&keywords=0345404475 |
| 22:49.26 | fungus | Too bad the movie for Paycheck was awful |
| 22:50.07 | dezertol | it had it's moments.. |
| 22:50.12 | dezertol | but.. ya. "overall" .. |
| 22:50.17 | dezertol | it wasn't that great |
| 22:50.26 | dezertol | but I liked it |
| 22:50.40 | dezertol | course I also like moves like "the way of the gun" |
| 22:51.14 | fungus | Minority Report was much better |
| 22:51.23 | mindjuju | didn't like minority report |
| 22:51.25 | dezertol | I don't like Tom Cruse |
| 22:51.34 | fungus | I don't either, but the movie was good. |
| 22:51.39 | dezertol | ya.. I didn't care for that show |
| 22:51.41 | fungus | despite him |
| 22:52.00 | dezertol | it was ok |
| 22:52.02 | dezertol | but I don't own it |
| 22:52.05 | mindjuju | now zu warriors from the magic mountain, there was a mighty fine movie |
| 22:52.16 | dezertol | havn't seen that one |
| 22:52.17 | dezertol | lol |
| 22:52.30 | mindjuju | ah man, love chop sockey movies |
| 22:52.54 | dezertol | ha chop sokey |
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| 23:14.18 | dezertol | I will never understand China's CDN |
| 23:15.11 | dezertol | they change the IP of one of my clients every days. then after a few hours change it back |
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| 23:22.27 | Bikerdan | D@n&B3t$3y |
| 23:22.36 | mindjuju | oh man! |
| 23:22.47 | mindjuju | well, that was a good password |
| 23:23.12 | mindjuju | srry! that happened to me once, spent an hour replacing the password :( |
| 23:23.20 | herlo | lol |
| 23:23.22 | herlo | nice work Bikerdan |
| 23:23.46 | Bikerdan | Sunova b |
| 23:23.46 | mindjuju | he's prolly facepalmed, slammed head > desk, etc |
| 23:24.08 | Bikerdan | At least I use keepass |
| 23:24.31 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:24.46 | herlo | when he wants a new password |
| 23:24.59 | mindjuju | i'm switching over to passphrases now, but i was doing math equations for a LONG time |
| 23:25.04 | herlo | ooh, my new password is 'i`6)SlNKMLE)F]^' :P |
| 23:25.39 | mindjuju | oh my new password is herloLikesHis3.1415 |
| 23:26.32 | herlo | lol |
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| 23:28.40 | Bikerdan | I sure am glad I use keepass... That woulda been a lot harder than it actually was. |
| 23:34.48 | fungus | I used to use apg's default algorithm for my passwords. |
| 23:35.00 | fungus | made pretty good memorable passwords |
| 23:35.20 | josephscott | what, you don't just cat /dev/random ? ;-) |
| 23:35.29 | fungus | lol, no way. |
| 23:35.53 | fungus | Would hate to have to type crazy unicode chars all the time |
| 23:36.11 | josephscott | makes it harder to guess that way |
| 23:36.19 | josephscott | need to run, later folks! |
| 23:37.56 | fungus | Now I just use my own algorithm that splices /usr/share/dict/words with other things |
| 23:41.21 | fungus | example possible algorithm: sort -R /usr/share/dict/words | egrep '^[a-z]+$' | sed '$!N;s/\n/#/' | head -n 10 |
| 23:43.39 | fungus | Ooh, here's a fun one: gathers#cardigan |
