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| 16:09.29 | mindjuju | anybody here do ipod/iphone/ipad dev ? |
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| 16:10.39 | mgeary | mindjuju: like how? |
| 16:11.17 | mindjuju | hi mgeary, here is REALLY what i need |
| 16:11.19 | mgeary | mindjuju: we do, but not in ObjC. We use Appcelerator |
| 16:12.17 | mindjuju | the internal devs here are building out an app, and that app is being tested on an internal server, and that internal server has the same name as the real production server, just a different IP, so the normal answer is change the host file |
| 16:12.32 | mindjuju | but i understand the ipod/iphone don't have an accessible host file, unless jailbroken |
| 16:12.52 | mindjuju | so i'm stuck to either by an intranet ssl for a private IP |
| 16:12.59 | mindjuju | or ... (looking for other options) |
| 16:13.21 | mindjuju | if i do a self signed, some reason the ipod or iphone doesn't like it |
| 16:13.49 | mgeary | how are your devices getting their internet? can you create a DNS entry at whatever name server is being used? |
| 16:14.26 | mindjuju | well i thought about that too, get some junky wifi point that isn't the production wifi point and putting the dns in there |
| 16:14.33 | mindjuju | maybe that is the simpliest way? |
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| 16:15.14 | ninnypants | mindjuju: that or just jailbreak the ipod it's easy and can be restored to non jailbroken |
| 16:15.45 | mindjuju | oh, i didn't know that, for some reason i thought jailbreak was only 1 way |
| 16:16.10 | ninnypants | nope you just do an itunes restore and it'll all good again |
| 16:16.22 | mindjuju | ~ninnypants++ |
| 16:16.46 | mindjuju | i'll have padawan investigate jailbreak, i wasn't really planning on this project on a monday morning |
| 16:17.33 | ninnypants | mindjuju: he should be able to do it easy there are tools that you can install then plug the ipod in and the tool will handle everything else |
| 16:17.49 | mindjuju | so ninnypants - how does jailbreak iphone affect its operation than it would normally be |
| 16:17.57 | ninnypants | I believe Absinthe was the easiest from what I remember |
| 16:18.17 | ninnypants | I saw no real difference on the ipad |
| 16:18.34 | mindjuju | i mean, if they test it on the jb iphone and when it rolls into production, they really should see no difference if they are using the same browsers, etc |
| 16:18.41 | mindjuju | i mean the only thing we're changing is the host fiel |
| 16:18.43 | ninnypants | but you can have it use an alternative app store which is the big draw of jailbreaking I believe |
| 16:19.03 | ninnypants | mindjuju: yeah it shouldn't affect the browser at all |
| 16:19.29 | ninnypants | curious why don't you just point at the ip for testing on the ipod/iphon? |
| 16:19.34 | ninnypants | iphone* |
| 16:19.48 | ninnypants | or does the app rely on a domain? |
| 16:19.51 | mindjuju | good q ninnypants here is why |
| 16:20.18 | ninnypants | oh you mentioned an ssl up above guessing that's it |
| 16:20.39 | mindjuju | the app is on https, i've issued the server a private ssl but something on webkit no likey, so i issued it a wildcard that i have in production, but there isn't a way to get the iphone to navigate to it, without host file change |
| 16:20.48 | mindjuju | which reminds me, isn't there an emulator for the ipod? |
| 16:21.10 | ninnypants | I think there are some out there but I never found a decent one |
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| 16:21.54 | ninnypants | what exactly do you need to test on the ipod? |
| 16:22.07 | mindjuju | some internal app, i'm not sure |
| 16:22.28 | ninnypants | web app? |
| 16:22.50 | ninnypants | guess it doesn't matter since you'll need to modify hosts anyway |
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| 16:45.09 | mindjuju | so fungus, how was vacation? |
| 16:45.42 | fungus | lol, good sleuthing |
| 16:46.00 | mindjuju | well, it's actually something else |
| 16:46.10 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:46.11 | raifbot | send killer squirrels to attack fungus. |
| 16:46.21 | mindjuju | i was going to ask you a question on Monday that carried over til tuesday that i figured out Tuesday afternoon |
| 16:46.30 | mindjuju | so all that to say, fungus, you were missed ;) |
| 16:46.38 | fungus | hehe |
| 16:49.33 | mindjuju | i thought about it |
| 16:54.13 | TuxToaster | $botmail raifbot |
| 16:54.20 | TuxToaster | almost sounds like hotmail |
| 16:54.21 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:54.40 | TuxToaster | wouldn't want to get those confused |
| 16:55.31 | mindjuju | TuxToaster -- that reminds me of rocketmail |
| 16:55.34 | mindjuju | remember them? |
| 16:58.22 | mindjuju | $8ball is TuxToaster under 35 |
| 16:58.22 | raifbot | mindjuju - It is decidedly so. |
| 16:58.29 | mindjuju | hmm, then maybe he doesn't |
| 16:59.10 | ninnypants | rocket mail still exists |
| 16:59.17 | ninnypants | my father inlaw has an account |
| 16:59.33 | mindjuju | i think they just started up again a few years ago |
| 16:59.41 | ninnypants | maybe so |
| 16:59.44 | mindjuju | i know at one point they were bought out by yahoo |
| 16:59.47 | ninnypants | I think they're under yahoo though |
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| 17:14.40 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: I've heard of it, never used it though |
| 17:14.55 | mahelious | my junior high had a pegasus setup, but i think my first actual email account was juno |
| 17:16.48 | TuxToaster | mahelious: sounds like me.. I used Pegasus at school and had a Juno and a Hotmail account |
| 17:16.48 | mindjuju | i learned to type on electric typewritters in high school |
| 17:17.28 | TuxToaster | In Price we didn't have much of a local ISP early on, so I started using Juno because they had a free 800 number you could dial for email access |
| 17:18.50 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:21.13 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: btw, < 35 doesn't make much of a difference. These darn kids and their newfangled technology and all that. |
| 17:21.40 | mindjuju | yeah no doubt |
| 17:21.40 | TuxToaster | I was using the Internet when I was like 8 |
| 17:22.10 | mindjuju | i still get mad that itunes wants to organize music its way and it doesn't care what i think (spent an hour trying to load music onto son's ipod) |
| 17:22.33 | mindjuju | course, winamp is moving that direction and i hate it |
| 17:22.51 | TuxToaster | I thought iTunes had an option to not move files into the library |
| 17:23.42 | TuxToaster | http://cl.ly/1R3a1f152h1P1P0m271r |
| 17:24.02 | TuxToaster | those two options might be handy... |
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| 17:26.13 | fungus | Tux you are right. they are just not default. |
| 17:26.35 | fungus | Which, I am happy about. I like iTunes organizing my music. Less effort for me |
| 17:26.57 | TuxToaster | yeah, I don't mind it doing it now. I used to hate it |
| 17:27.20 | fungus | Me too, but then I learned to stop worrying and love the (iTunes) |
| 17:28.56 | TuxToaster | ~save raifbot |
| 17:28.56 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves raifbot from certain death. Is that enough? |
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| 17:29.56 | TuxToaster | ibot: yup, it was enough. |
| 17:30.31 | josephscott | $8ball feeling better now? |
| 17:30.31 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 17:31.03 | ninnypants | $8ball will you fix my ie bug? |
| 17:31.04 | raifbot | ninnypants - Cannot predict now. |
| 17:31.10 | ninnypants | dang |
| 17:32.40 | ninnypants | $8ball will IE ever have a version that actually clears it cache when you tell it to? |
| 17:32.41 | raifbot | ninnypants - As I see it, yes. |
| 17:33.43 | josephscott | $8ball will that version be released before the sun burns out? |
| 17:33.44 | raifbot | josephscott - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 17:33.50 | josephscott | that isn't a good sign |
| 17:33.51 | macnewbold | I'm with fungus - originally i was annoyed at the way iTunes wanted to do it, but eventually I realized how it meant that i didn't have to do it manually anymore, and went with it |
| 17:35.44 | ninnypants | $8ball what about proper javascript errors? |
| 17:35.46 | raifbot | ninnypants - As I see it, yes. |
| 17:36.50 | TuxToaster | $8ball will you always answer that for questions about IE? |
| 17:36.50 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 17:37.08 | TuxToaster | was slightly hoping it'd say 'As I see it, yes' lol |
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| 17:37.32 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 17:37.32 | raifbot | pours hot grits down the front of Heartsbane's pants. |
| 17:46.06 | ninnypants | anyone worked with the flash pass though api? |
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| 19:32.56 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 19:32.57 | ibot | forces tierra to use Outlook Express |
| 19:32.57 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 19:32.57 | raifbot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Bikerdan. |
| 19:33.09 | mgeary | jinx |
| 19:33.25 | carmony | ~rlart |
| 19:33.25 | ibot | flings poo at macnewbold |
| 19:33.28 | carmony | eww |
| 19:34.11 | josephscott | ~jinx mgeary |
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| 19:40.33 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 19:40.34 | raifbot | Chuck Norris ended the song that never ends |
| 19:40.57 | TuxToaster | $8ball does it go on and on, my friend? |
| 19:40.58 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 19:41.15 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you waiting for the song to end? |
| 19:41.16 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 19:41.18 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 19:46.12 | mgeary | hey, CakePHP folks, is there a constant/var that gives me the absolute path to the working "app" directory? |
| 19:46.50 | mgeary | not the URL, the file path |
| 19:46.55 | TuxToaster | APP_ROOT I think |
| 19:47.16 | mgeary | aha. no, just ROOT |
| 19:47.19 | tierra | APP_PATH actually, but close |
| 19:47.24 | mgeary | hmm |
| 19:47.37 | TuxToaster | http://book.cakephp.org/1.3/en/view/1141/Core-Definition-Constants |
| 19:47.51 | mgeary | okay then |
| 19:47.52 | mgeary | thanks |
| 19:48.04 | TuxToaster | yup |
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| 20:06.10 | mindjuju | so is ubuntu the only one that tries to load in nvidia drivers? i'm wondering if i should try a different flavor of linux to see if i can linux running on a particular machine with an nvidia graphics card |
| 20:06.55 | mindjuju | it crashes during install or shortly after, and if it does boot to desktop, desktop has a big blank screen that google says is nvidia issues |
| 20:07.02 | mindjuju | but i can't even get to terminal |
| 20:08.00 | mahelious | linus says if you try to run linx with nvidia you're a poopy head... |
| 20:08.06 | mahelious | s/linx/linux |
| 20:08.20 | mindjuju | dang |
| 20:08.49 | mindjuju | i'll have to look around to see if i can find another vid card |
| 20:09.06 | stderr | you should be able to get a terminal just fine. |
| 20:09.18 | stderr | alt+f2 |
| 20:10.03 | stderr | or ctrl-f2. I haven't used Linux as a desktop in a coon's age. |
| 20:13.13 | stderr | err, ctrl-alt-f2. there you go. |
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| 20:52.34 | hhatfield | ping DexterTheDragon |
| 20:53.01 | DexterTheDragon | ~pong hhatfield |
| 20:53.01 | ibot | hhatfield: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:53.13 | josephscott | haha |
| 20:54.26 | hhatfield | ouch |
| 20:54.28 | hhatfield | DexterTheDragon: pm? |
| 20:54.36 | DexterTheDragon | hhatfield: sure |
| 20:58.35 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 20:58.35 | raifbot | plops jsmith into a giant vat of herring. |
| 20:58.39 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
| 20:58.39 | ibot | holds herlo to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 20:58.50 | jsmith | Ouch... thanks hhatfield |
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| 20:59.28 | hhatfield | anytime |
| 20:59.40 | TuxToaster | $lart hhatfield |
| 20:59.40 | raifbot | blasts hhatfield to oblivion with a kamehameha wave. |
| 21:00.33 | herlo | ~lart hhatfield |
| 21:00.33 | ibot | blames hhatfield for all the evil in the world |
| 21:00.34 | TuxToaster | how do you block that? |
| 21:01.23 | hhatfield | ummm.... |
| 21:01.27 | hhatfield | ~jar me |
| 21:01.27 | ibot | hhatfield took the cookie from the cookie jar. "Who, me?", "Yes, you!", "Couldn't be!", "Then, who?" "SkinnerDroid !" |
| 21:01.44 | stderr | TuxToaster: a taste in television. |
| 21:01.55 | TuxToaster | $8ball is Skinner the droid we are looking for? |
| 21:01.55 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 21:02.04 | TuxToaster | stderr: lol |
| 21:03.20 | hhatfield | anyone looking to buy a house in West Bountiful? |
| 21:03.33 | josephscott | only carmony :-) |
| 21:04.31 | hhatfield | I think he wants more house than I got :) |
| 21:06.06 | TuxToaster | http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-07-01/ |
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| 21:23.01 | hhatfield | carmony: buy my house |
| 21:23.18 | carmony | hhatfield: lol, no, you can buy my house |
| 21:23.25 | hhatfield | http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=475&ad=21030829&cat=&lpid=&type=1&city=&zipcode=84087&distance=&sale=1&start=&end=&state=0&sort=&keyword=&sqftstart=&sqftend=&acresstart=&acresend=&bedrooms=&bathrooms=&sellertype= |
| 21:23.41 | hhatfield | carmony: you want that house |
| 21:25.13 | josephscott | $mindtrick hhatfield |
| 21:25.13 | raifbot | (jedi hand wave) hhatfield you don't need to see his identification. |
| 21:25.33 | hhatfield | $mindtrick carmony into buying my house |
| 21:25.34 | raifbot | (jedi hand wave) carmony into buying my house he can go about his business. |
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| 21:26.43 | *** topic/#UPHPU is Utah PHP Users | uphpu.org | Meeting 6/21, 7pm@C7: carmony on graphite, statsd, and real-time statistics |
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| 21:26.44 | hhatfield | $8ball are you your own source? |
| 21:26.44 | raifbot | hhatfield - Most likely. |
| 21:26.47 | TuxToaster | $8ball will he become more powerful than we can possibly imagine? |
| 21:26.48 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is certain. |
| 21:27.00 | hhatfield | $8ball is ibot still a girl? |
| 21:27.00 | raifbot | hhatfield - Without a doubt. |
| 21:27.07 | TuxToaster | *she |
| 21:44.17 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 21:44.18 | raifbot | Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table because the only element Chuck Norris recognizes is the element of suprise |
| 21:49.54 | mahelious | ~quine |
| 21:49.55 | ibot | methinks quine is a program that produces, as its only output, its own source code. Information and examples can be found at http://www.nyx.net/~gthompso/quine.htm, but a list of quines is at http://www.nyx.net/~gthompso/quine.htm |
| 21:50.06 | mahelious | right, but lets see you do it... |
| 22:02.53 | beandog | let's see if thunderbird can delete 3600 emails without crashing |
| 22:03.02 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:03.08 | macnewbold | lemme know how it goes... |
| 22:03.16 | beandog | it successfully downloaded 17k |
| 22:03.17 | beandog | so we'll see |
| 22:04.44 | beandog | cool, worked |
| 22:06.05 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 22:06.05 | ibot | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags peno into court suing for $200 million |
| 22:06.22 | beandog | mindjuju: you having a big bbq this year? |