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| 14:10.59 | raifbot | There is no chin behind Chuck Norris’ beard. There is only another fist. |
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| 14:44.43 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 14:44.43 | raifbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at herlo. |
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| 14:56.46 | carmony | $rlart |
| 14:56.47 | raifbot | lowers optikal's priority. |
| 14:56.53 | carmony | ~rlart |
| 14:56.54 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, stderr_!" and lops off stderr_'s head |
| 14:57.01 | carmony | lol |
| 14:59.28 | wps | I just upgraded to CentOS 6 |
| 14:59.34 | wps | a "ls -all" now shows this: |
| 14:59.35 | wps | drwxr-xr-x. |
| 14:59.39 | wps | what's that dot at the end? |
| 15:00.55 | wps | is that selinux stuff? |
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| 15:03.36 | wps | never mind |
| 15:03.37 | wps | I found it |
| 15:03.39 | wps | it's selinux |
| 15:04.00 | josephscott | $google "ls dot at the end" |
| 15:04.01 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ls+dot+at+the+end%22 -- |
| 15:04.08 | josephscott | $google ls dot at the end |
| 15:04.08 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=ls+dot+at+the+end -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_FAQ -- http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D226629 -- http://superuser.com/questions/230559/what-does-the-dot-mean-at-the-end-of-rw-r-r-how-do-you-set-it-with-chmod |
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| 15:05.46 | wps | strange |
| 15:05.53 | wps | my selinux config says: |
| 15:05.54 | wps | SELINUX=disabled |
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| 15:22.32 | macnewbold | wps: my ls -l doesn't show the . at the end |
| 15:22.54 | macnewbold | even with -all |
| 15:22.56 | macnewbold | on the same box |
| 15:23.14 | wps | interesting |
| 15:23.28 | wps | it appears to only be doing it when I am root |
| 15:24.51 | macnewbold | aha |
| 15:24.52 | macnewbold | weird |
| 15:24.59 | hhatfield | of course selinux tells you it's disabled… security through obscurity |
| 15:25.05 | macnewbold | haha |
| 15:33.45 | mindjuju_ | ~seen intchanter |
| 15:33.52 | ibot | i haven't seen 'intchanter', mindjuju_ |
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| 15:58.47 | captbrogers | $chuck-fact |
| 15:58.47 | raifbot | There is no such thing as tornados. Chuck Norris just hates trailer parks. |
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| 16:02.56 | wps | a linux user is unable to change their own password |
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| 16:03.06 | wps | they try passwd and receive an error |
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| 16:03.13 | wps | passwd: Authentication token manipulation error |
| 16:03.19 | wps | anyone know why that might be? |
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| 16:07.50 | jsmith | wps: Password is local to the server, or served up by some other back-end (like LDAP or Active Directory?) |
| 16:08.01 | wps | local to the server |
| 16:08.04 | wps | linux system password |
| 16:08.22 | wps | all I got googling was to make sure that /etc/shadow at the right permissions |
| 16:08.27 | wps | which I believe it does |
| 16:08.36 | wps | changing passwords is working for other users though |
| 16:08.39 | wps | just not this particular one |
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| 16:12.06 | jsmith | wps: is the password marked as unchangeable in /etc/shadow? |
| 16:12.24 | wps | how would it show? |
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| 16:15.45 | jsmith | wps: Hmmmn... you've confirmed that the username in /etc/password matches the username in /etc/shadow exactly? |
| 16:15.55 | TuxToaster | morning |
| 16:16.38 | wps | confirmed |
| 16:16.40 | macnewbold | TuxToaster: the hawt new dev server is ready for you when you get here monday |
| 16:16.44 | wps | morning, TuxToaster |
| 16:16.45 | TuxToaster | yay |
| 16:17.01 | jsmith | wps: Anything useful in /var/log/auth.log? |
| 16:17.02 | wps | except wps dropped it… because it was hawt |
| 16:18.54 | TuxToaster | lol... my wife keeps showing me this: http://www.perpetualkid.com/grill-sergeant-apron.aspx |
| 16:19.17 | wps | fre shipping! |
| 16:19.58 | mindjuju_ | oh man |
| 16:20.11 | mindjuju_ | TuxToaster - a man can do GREAT things with something like that |
| 16:21.45 | TuxToaster | yeah, I'm tempted |
| 16:21.52 | TuxToaster | I'd have to get a few of these to go with it though http://www.perpetualkid.com/grenade-stress-ball.aspx |
| 16:21.54 | TuxToaster | only fitting |
| 16:22.06 | mindjuju_ | oh man |
| 16:22.08 | mindjuju_ | that's awesome |
| 16:22.39 | wps | hmm |
| 16:22.44 | wps | I have not /var/log/auth.log |
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| 16:30.30 | wps | s/not/no/ |
| 16:30.44 | wps | everyone! start repenting! the end is near! |
| 16:30.50 | wps | macnewbold: is considering switching editors |
| 16:31.19 | mindjuju_ | wps - between the mayapocolypse or the end of the bush tax cuts, the end of the year looms! |
| 16:31.34 | TuxToaster | wow |
| 16:31.39 | TuxToaster | which editors? |
| 16:32.21 | macnewbold | a coworker pointed me to an "emacs" mode for Sublime Text 2 |
| 16:32.25 | macnewbold | so i'm poking at it |
| 16:32.26 | wps | I believe he's eyeing sublime editor (currently using aqua emacs I believe) |
| 16:32.54 | macnewbold | but oddly enough, another coworker has NetBeans and i've liked some of that too |
| 16:33.14 | macnewbold | Coda is popular here, but unless Coda 2 is much better, i'd probably be more likely to try TextMate than Coda |
| 16:33.33 | mindjuju_ | notepad++ here |
| 16:34.33 | josephscott | ~vim++ |
| 16:34.43 | josephscott | ~karma vim |
| 16:34.43 | ibot | vim has karma of 20 |
| 16:34.56 | mahelious | im still using netbeans atm, but with the 7.1.x releases im very strongly considering switching to sublime permanently |
| 16:36.19 | Monnok | whats wrong with the new releases of netbeans? |
| 16:36.43 | Monnok | im still on 7.0.1 i think, when i use an IDE |
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| 16:43.36 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: I've heard some good things about Sublime |
| 16:43.50 | macnewbold | i'm hoping it will play nice |
| 16:43.54 | macnewbold | currently setting up sshfs |
| 16:44.12 | TuxToaster | Coda 2 is nice, it's what I'm currently using |
| 16:44.55 | skinner | You'll hear it first...like the sound of a giant waterfall, they say... |
| 16:45.08 | captbrogers | Coda looks like it'd be great, but I'm discouraged by the Mac only part |
| 16:45.29 | TuxToaster | main thing I have liked with Coda was the SCM integration, it would mark files that had been changed in the repo so that you knew that you needed to update before committing |
| 16:45.48 | macnewbold | yeah, the problem for us with that is that it only works on local checkouts |
| 16:45.50 | TuxToaster | unfortunately I used to work with a few people that had a really hard time with that concept and would constantly run into conflicts |
| 16:45.52 | macnewbold | but our checkouts are on our dev server |
| 16:46.45 | TuxToaster | yeah, seems like it could be made to work with a remote checkout assuming that it can ssh and do a status check |
| 16:47.44 | TuxToaster | one thing I like about Sublime is the code overview that shows you where you're at in the file |
| 16:47.50 | TuxToaster | can be really handy |
| 16:48.28 | TuxToaster | captbrogers: yeah, lots of people have complained about Coda not being available on Linux or Windows over the years, but Panic is a 100% Mac shop. |
| 16:52.00 | captbrogers | TuxToaster, I really don't blame them, it's just one of those, "Dang, sucks I can't use it on Linux..." situations |
| 16:52.40 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 16:52.45 | captbrogers | I understand why a lot of companies use Macs for developers, but I honestly feel like all the security features that they offer can be had for much cheaper on Linux, but the lack of support is what turns them away |
| 16:52.57 | captbrogers | It really is a shame |
| 16:58.38 | mgeary | how does Coda handle very large text files? |
| 16:58.55 | mgeary | that's one thing i dislike about TextMate. BBedit does a bit better, and BBedit has a really good diff feature |
| 16:59.24 | mgeary | but i don't get why, on a machine with 16GB of RAM, i can't easily open a 700MB text file |
| 17:03.01 | wps | Coda struggles with huge text files |
| 17:04.08 | mgeary | bah |
| 17:04.14 | mgeary | how nicely does it do diffs? |
| 17:04.47 | wps | coda doesn't have a diff feature |
| 17:06.16 | mgeary | well |
| 17:06.21 | mgeary | that pretty much sinks it for me |
| 17:07.19 | mgeary | what's the difference between vim and grim? |
| 17:07.22 | mgeary | *gvim |
| 17:07.40 | mgeary | ah. gui |
| 17:17.41 | TuxToaster | Coda uses FileMerge to handle diffs |
| 17:18.14 | TuxToaster | dunno if Coda 2 handles large files better, I know Coda 1 struggled a bit because of the syntax highlighting engine |
| 17:18.58 | wps | TuxToaster: what do you mean by it uses FileMerge |
| 17:19.14 | wps | I use FileMerge for diffing, but is there a way to use it through Coda? |
| 17:20.21 | TuxToaster | it has a Compare With <revision> feature, so if you have a file that's been changed from the current version in SCM you can say compare with latest or specify a version, and it launches FileMerge to view the changes |
| 17:20.37 | wps | ah… that's why I didn't know it was there |
| 17:20.41 | wps | I don't use the SVN features in Coda |
| 17:22.28 | TuxToaster | yeah, it's hard for it to know what to compare with if it can't use SVN to see history :-) |
| 18:23.04 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: are you liking Coda 2? |
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| 18:37.49 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: so far it's not bad. I haven't really had a chance to play around with it this week but it's nice |
| 18:41.17 | ninnypants | I thought about testing it but wasn't sure I cared |
| 18:41.50 | ninnypants | I've really liked Sublime Text and didn't see anything in the features list that made me want to switch |
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| 19:11.22 | josephscott | for those that have been missing clippy http://www.smore.com/clippy-js |
| 19:19.45 | ninnypants | mindjuju_: ping |
| 19:31.30 | captbrogers | I'd say that connection timed out |
| 19:39.45 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: sorry been in a meeting |
| 19:40.14 | TuxToaster | they have some cool features but yeah, not sure anything is incredibly groundbreaking yet |
| 19:44.37 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: agreed |
| 19:44.54 | ninnypants | it's got some cool stuff but nothing worth the switch |
| 19:46.44 | TuxToaster | yup. I'm mostly using it just because I've used Coda 1 for years. |
| 19:47.39 | TuxToaster | so I'm used to the workflow and it does what I need it to. |
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| 19:53.54 | ninnypants | makes sense |
| 19:54.15 | ninnypants | I almost started using it on mac but ST is on everything so I went with that |
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| 19:59.13 | mahelious | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120531173633275 just saw this in another channel |
| 20:00.17 | mahelious | "ownership only over the specific way in which the author wrote out his version...for, importantly, ideas, concepts and functions cannot be monopolized by copyright." |
| 20:00.42 | mahelious | that should prove to be some interesting precedent. |
| 20:00.45 | mindjuju_ | ninnypants - pong |
| 20:00.56 | ninnypants | pm? |
| 20:01.00 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 20:01.00 | raifbot | farts in utahcon's general direction. |
| 20:01.03 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
| 20:01.03 | ibot | turns kendsnyder into a lifesized tux doll |
| 20:01.08 | mindjuju_ | sure, shoot |
| 20:01.34 | mindjuju_ | remember, PMs are $3.99 for the first minute, $1 each additional minute |
| 20:01.37 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 20:01.47 | hhatfield | he may be easy, but he ain't cheap |
| 20:01.57 | mindjuju_ | word |
| 20:02.15 | ninnypants | man used to be only 50c for each additional minute |
| 20:02.27 | mindjuju_ | inflation |
| 20:02.36 | mindjuju_ | my stocks took a kick to the jimmies this morn |
| 20:02.38 | mindjuju_ | got to make it up |
| 20:03.45 | ninnypants | yeah I saw that drop made me glad I haven't bought stocks yet |
| 20:04.33 | mindjuju_ | wow, we're at -274 |
| 20:04.43 | mindjuju_ | worse than this morn when i checked, 217 i think it was |
| 20:05.36 | jsmith | mindjuju_: Just think of everything being on a 5% off sale today :-) |
| 20:05.53 | mgeary | only hurts you when/if you sell it |
| 20:06.08 | mgeary | …or they go under, but since most people are in mutual funds, not straight stocks, that's less usual |
| 20:08.18 | josephscott | $save mindjuju's shares of FB |
| 20:08.22 | raifbot | asks the President to please pardon mindjuju's shares of FB |
| 20:40.11 | carmony | I hope at some point FB gets down to the same price as YHOO |
| 20:45.26 | carmony | hehe, this is funny |
| 20:45.28 | carmony | https://twitter.com/JustinCarmony/status/208660492401639424/photo/1 |
| 20:46.14 | josephscott | carmony: missing a box |
| 20:46.24 | carmony | true |
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| 20:47.09 | mindjuju_ | i HATE it when you click on an image (because it says "enlarge") and it's the same DARN IMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:47.33 | josephscott | ~rage mindjuju_ |
| 20:47.46 | carmony | josephscott: http://screencast.com/t/XbAr2BMh8 |
| 20:47.57 | josephscott | haha |
| 20:50.53 | carmony | so, who wants to go to this? http://www.fathomevents.com/originals/event/rifftrax_manos.aspx?utm_source=RiffTrax&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=RiffTraxManos |
| 20:57.36 | mindjuju_ | i love mst3k |
| 20:57.42 | carmony | me too |
| 20:58.07 | mindjuju_ | talking about wives, how is your wife carmony? |
| 20:58.14 | mindjuju_ | she's due in like 3 months, no? |
| 20:58.15 | carmony | she is doing well |
| 20:58.20 | carmony | 4 1/2 |
| 20:58.24 | carmony | she is 20 weeks or so |
| 20:58.38 | mindjuju_ | oh yeah, srry, i know like 5 people who are expecting |
| 20:58.58 | carmony | lol, np :P |
| 20:59.06 | carmony | I don't expect you to remember EVERYTHING |
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| 21:04.13 | mgeary | i do |
| 21:07.11 | mindjuju_ | d'oh! |
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| 21:39.18 | beandog | mornin |
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| 21:50.18 | raifbot | hauls opapo up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles. |
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| 21:55.23 | mindjuju_ | funny, i thought went they said "bath salts" they meant bath salts, i guess no - http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/miami-cannibal-attack-horrific-dangers-bath-salts-drug |
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| 22:06.16 | ninnypants | that site made me wonder if wealthier people are less ethical ;) |
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| 22:32.47 | Bikerdan | Kinda makes me sick to think that my children are growing up in a world where they might be tempted to do those kinds of things. Scary. |
| 22:41.23 | carmony | anyone here ever mucked around with statsd and graphite? |
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