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| 14:06.00 | carmony | I'm kinda liking the front runner. |
| 14:06.14 | carmony | ran into Monnok on the train :P |
| 14:06.41 | Monnok | it didnt hurt as much as you'd suspect |
| 14:06.42 | romanovic | Davis to SL? |
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| 14:07.30 | Monnok | true geeks conversate via IM when sitting across from each other :p |
| 14:07.51 | Monnok | or was that introverts? |
| 14:10.27 | carmony | lol, maybe both |
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| 14:10.41 | carmony | $lart macnewbold |
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| 14:10.50 | macnewbold | ~lart carmony |
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| 14:10.57 | carmony | ouch |
| 14:11.11 | macnewbold | hey, at least it wasn't an AOL cd… those sting |
| 14:12.03 | Monnok | only cause they are all warped from being experimented on in microwaves |
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| 14:17.24 | captbrogers | Alright everyone, I need opinions on purchasing a new phone case. (SFW) Option 1: http://goo.gl/WatoX Option 2: http://goo.gl/JJAs5 |
| 14:18.13 | veonik | Option 2 |
| 14:18.15 | veonik | definitely |
| 14:18.58 | captbrogers | That's what I was thinking. I want something that says, "Fabulous!" but not too flashy |
| 14:19.47 | mahelious | captbrogers: i need to know something about you first: Who looks better on stage, Cher or God? |
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| 14:20.21 | captbrogers | Trick question. Elton John |
| 14:20.49 | Monnok | unless Elton John is god? |
| 14:21.09 | mahelious | someone flamboyant enough for pink rhinestones would know Cher is God. |
| 14:22.14 | mahelious | elton john requires more feathers. |
| 14:22.52 | captbrogers | Well, I only say Elton John because Liberace is dead |
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| 14:56.58 | captbrogers | I'm trying to remember a novel I once read, and I can't remember which one it is. The most I can remember was that there is a moment when a young man and woman are sitting at home watching a ballet on TV, and some of the dancers are falling because they have an implanted device in their ear that distracts them with a harsh buzzing noise. It's almost like 1984, but I don't think that's it. The device was meant to make sure that everyone was thinking/actin |
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| 15:07.21 | veonik | captbrogers: harrison bergeron? |
| 15:07.25 | veonik | if thats the name |
| 15:07.39 | veonik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron |
| 15:08.04 | captbrogers | Great googily-boogily. That's it! |
| 15:08.05 | captbrogers | Thanks |
| 15:08.09 | veonik | :) |
| 15:08.19 | captbrogers | I was dying trying to figure it out, I could not remember it for the life of me |
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| 15:39.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 15:44.10 | captbrogers | Next time, I suggest you request the non-squirrel log. |
| 15:48.24 | josephscott | this could be interesting http://research.google.com/pubs/pub38125.html |
| 15:50.46 | ninnypants | interesting I wonder why writes are slower |
| 15:51.37 | fungus | it's transactionally consistent, which means it has to wait for all replicas to have successfully written the data before it can return an ok. |
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| 15:55.58 | fungus | synchronous replication has traditionally been difficult which is why it's so rare to find in many RDBMS's and almost unheard of in NoSQL implementations. |
| 15:57.32 | mindjuju | hey josephscott |
| 15:57.52 | mindjuju | you sitting down over there? |
| 15:57.55 | TuxToaster | $lart CakePHP |
| 15:57.56 | raifbot | takes CakePHP to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 15:58.15 | TuxToaster | <--- just found out that Cake has not been using the configured external SMTP host for emails |
| 15:58.20 | mindjuju | look what just came across the wire |
| 15:58.23 | mindjuju | http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/394066/Extending-WordPress-with-Csharp-Plugins |
| 15:58.33 | TuxToaster | so... we have no logs on emails that have been sent for the past few months. |
| 15:58.36 | TuxToaster | stupid Cake |
| 15:58.38 | mindjuju | c# plugins for WP |
| 15:58.40 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: wow. |
| 15:58.43 | mindjuju | ninnypants^^ |
| 15:58.53 | mindjuju | TuxToaster :) |
| 16:00.52 | macnewbold | yikes |
| 16:01.02 | macnewbold | one question is how, but the better question is _why_ |
| 16:01.06 | mindjuju | it feels like crossing the streams |
| 16:01.12 | macnewbold | way worse |
| 16:01.37 | josephscott | mindjuju: how odd, sounds painful |
| 16:02.53 | josephscott | "The plugin can be distributed in form of dynamic library (DLL) without need to share your source code." <--- not a feature |
| 16:03.17 | mindjuju | is that a violation of the GPL |
| 16:03.25 | mindjuju | what is the WP license ? |
| 16:04.23 | mindjuju | oh it is GPL |
| 16:04.23 | josephscott | could be |
| 16:04.31 | mindjuju | http://codex.wordpress.org/License |
| 16:05.08 | josephscott | XML config files, didn't everyone realize that was a horrible idea a decade ago? |
| 16:05.32 | mindjuju | oops, that whole thought about not sharing source code runs counter to teverything Matt says on that page |
| 16:05.38 | macnewbold | probably not in C#/.Net land |
| 16:06.41 | mindjuju | macnewbold, except that the GPL stipulates that derivative works are also GPL, doesn't it? |
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| 16:07.04 | mindjuju | I think maybe |
| 16:07.07 | josephscott | "Evaluating the Performance" section is a joke right? |
| 16:07.24 | josephscott | "Other PHP Plugin" |
| 16:07.28 | mindjuju | macnewbold - Part of this license outlines requirements for derivative works, such as plugins or themes. Derivatives of WordPress code inherit the GPL license |
| 16:07.34 | mindjuju | http://wordpress.org/about/license/ |
| 16:07.55 | macnewbold | mindjuju: I was referring to josephscott's XML config files comment. |
| 16:07.58 | macnewbold | the licensing thing |
| 16:08.04 | mindjuju | oh, srry |
| 16:08.09 | macnewbold | i don't know that his plugin is a derivative of wordpress |
| 16:08.25 | macnewbold | but it definitely is useless when not used in conjunction with wp |
| 16:08.29 | josephscott | haha, "For obvious reasons, I don’t want to name the other plugin." |
| 16:09.13 | mindjuju | what's the other plugin he's in reference to? |
| 16:09.19 | josephscott | he doesn't say |
| 16:09.28 | macnewbold | one really sad part is that the whole thing has to run on a windows server, with IIS, running PHP in a .net-based php compiler |
| 16:09.39 | josephscott | or mono |
| 16:09.58 | josephscott | don't know anyone who actually uses mono though |
| 16:10.43 | mindjuju | well, now that I have everybody shocked and riled up, i think my work here is done |
| 16:18.02 | josephscott | $8ball should I even consider writing a WP plugin in c#? |
| 16:18.02 | raifbot | josephscott - Cannot predict now. |
| 16:19.49 | ninnypants | raifbot probably writes everything in .net |
| 16:22.57 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 16:23.06 | macnewbold | raifbot: are you going to sit by and let him say stuff like that? |
| 16:24.04 | ninnypants | raifbot is the one that thinks out look is good |
| 16:24.19 | josephscott | $lart ninnypants |
| 16:24.19 | raifbot | calls ninnypants on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home. |
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| 16:25.46 | josephscott | ~say $lart ninnypants |
| 16:25.46 | ibot | $lart ninnypants |
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| 16:32.48 | hhatfield | $rlart |
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| 16:32.50 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
| 16:32.50 | ibot | cuts Monnok into thin stripes |
| 16:33.19 | hhatfield | ~morning |
| 16:33.19 | ibot | Good morning! |
| 16:33.24 | Monnok | ~ow |
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| 16:45.48 | mindjuju | sup herlo |
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| 17:41.59 | Monnok | anyone have any knowledge/experience with MODx? |
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| 18:39.14 | mindjuju | hmm top 10 drive-ins - http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/lifestyle/51649003-80/burger-burgers-drive-essential.html.csp |
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| 18:43.24 | veonik | I like how none of those are in salt lake |
| 18:43.39 | mindjuju | i know, beligian waffle shoud be on there |
| 18:43.43 | veonik | yes it should |
| 18:43.56 | veonik | thanks, btw, just ate lunch and now i'm hungry again |
| 18:44.12 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:46.54 | ebertx | For anyone interested in JS, fluentconf is being streamed live: http://fluentconf.com/fluent2012/public/content/video |
| 19:21.41 | TuxToaster | $8ball you're secretly written in .net, aren't you? |
| 19:21.42 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Very doubtful. |
| 19:21.52 | TuxToaster | $8ball classic ASP then? |
| 19:21.52 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Don't count on it. |
| 19:21.59 | TuxToaster | $8ball BASIC? |
| 19:22.00 | raifbot | TuxToaster - As I see it, yes. |
| 19:22.02 | TuxToaster | aha. |
| 19:22.11 | mindjuju | hmm, i wondered if maybe vb.net |
| 19:24.42 | mindjuju | so TuxToaster, did you see the BBC clip where they accidentally use the Halo logo for UNSC instead of the UN SC ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY2cE_FpOaY |
| 19:24.45 | mindjuju | very funny |
| 19:24.57 | TuxToaster | nope. watching now |
| 19:25.41 | mindjuju | poor bbc |
| 19:25.59 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 19:26.01 | TuxToaster | too funny |
| 19:32.01 | ninnypants | so anyone have any idea why an anonymous function would work differently from a declared function when it's bound to a javascript event? |
| 19:45.09 | romanovic | by differently, do you mean its not working at all? |
| 19:45.15 | romanovic | ninnypants: ^^ |
| 19:45.25 | ninnypants | romanovic: yeah basically |
| 19:45.36 | romanovic | which one isn't working, anonymous or declared? |
| 19:45.50 | ninnypants | anonymous |
| 19:45.57 | mindjuju | ~apb fridgesm |
| 19:45.57 | ibot | ACTION hires Leland to rough up fridgesm |
| 19:46.42 | ninnypants | romanovic: I have this js https://gist.github.com/2838518 |
| 19:47.01 | romanovic | ninnypants: can you verify that the function is being executed when the event is triggered? |
| 19:47.30 | ninnypants | if I take playerState and make it anonymous inside the addEventListener it doesn't do anything |
| 19:50.00 | romanovic | ninnypants: try taking the quotes off the function name |
| 19:50.29 | romanovic | where you are assigning it with addEventListener |
| 19:52.04 | ninnypants | romanovic: stops calling it all together |
| 19:52.57 | romanovic | ah... so it was executing before, just not working |
| 19:53.25 | mindjuju | sounds like a playa to stop taking calls when he feels |
| 19:53.57 | ninnypants | yeah works fine if it's a named function passed through in quotes but if it's anonymous or just passed through it doesn't work |
| 19:54.43 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: does it log state and this? |
| 19:55.17 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: yeah and this == window |
| 19:56.12 | DexterTheDragon | what does the code look like when you do it as an anonymous? |
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| 19:58.11 | ninnypants | https://gist.github.com/2838582 |
| 20:04.33 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: and there's no logging and no errors? |
| 20:05.54 | mgeary | hey, who here has the great misfortune to work with SQL Server on a regular basis? |
| 20:06.07 | mindjuju | ~seen sheri |
| 20:06.18 | ibot | sheri <~sheri@cpe-184-153-13-92.nycap.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 64d 5h 50m 48s ago, saying: 'almost 4 years'. |
| 20:06.30 | mgeary | can anyone confirm for me that if you create a table without an explicit primary key, it will kind of still create a 'hidden' primary key? |
| 20:06.55 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: nope nothing happens at all |
| 20:07.10 | mindjuju | mgeary, what database? |
| 20:08.02 | mindjuju | it seems like i have heard that mysql DOES do that |
| 20:08.35 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: I blame vanilla javascript |
| 20:09.04 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: it doesn't work with jquery at all |
| 20:09.27 | mindjuju | mgeary - i found this notation on stackoverflow - if you do not provide a primary key, MySQL adds a hidden primary integer autoincrement key. In order to override the hidden key, the alter table statement must specify the addition of a new field and the assignment of the new PK in the same line, otherwise the hidden PK will block the alteration. |
| 20:09.36 | mindjuju | now to find something in mysql.com |
| 20:10.54 | mgeary | mindjuju: "SQL Server" -- MS SQL |
| 20:11.13 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/786380/using-youtubes-javascript-api-with-jquery |
| 20:11.38 | DexterTheDragon | looks like the youtube api does silly things |
| 20:12.25 | macnewbold | mindjuju: mgeary: that sounds weird - I don't think MySQL does that, at least I've never seen it. tho its been a long time since i didn't specify my own primary key |
| 20:12.42 | mgeary | guys. NOT talking about MySQL here. talking about MS SQL |
| 20:12.52 | mgeary | trying to reverse engineer a database |
| 20:13.11 | macnewbold | mgeary: yeah, you shouldn't use MS SQL |
| 20:13.29 | mgeary | i'm not using it voluntarily |
| 20:14.20 | macnewbold | oh, that makes more sense then |
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| 20:26.38 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: I've noticed ;) |
| 20:26.44 | ninnypants | thanks for the link |
| 20:41.49 | mgeary | so, anyways, does ANYONE here work much with MS SQL? |
| 20:44.04 | mgeary | aha. never mind. it's apparently "Adaptive Server Anywhere". Anyone used THAT, by chance? |
| 20:48.11 | macnewbold | yikes |
| 20:52.01 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:52.17 | mgeary | like i say, trying to reverse-engineer/extract some data from a database we were given |
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| 21:05.22 | TuxToaster | mgeary: oi. |
| 21:05.31 | TuxToaster | though I want to say you might be right on the primary key |
| 21:05.43 | TuxToaster | at least in MSSQL |
| 21:05.46 | mgeary | yeah, though it's moot because it appears ASA doesn't do that |
| 21:07.05 | TuxToaster | yeah, haven't worked with ASA before. |
| 21:07.35 | TuxToaster | at least not in the database context. Cisco ASA's are a different story. :P |
| 21:29.16 | mindjuju | anybody here GREAT at biology? |
| 21:29.36 | mindjuju | i can't seem to make heads or tails of this - http://screencast.com/t/UJzdkIwyb |
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| 21:33.04 | unum | nope |
| 21:33.22 | unum | I would have used the term sired |
| 21:33.25 | unum | actually that's not true |
| 21:33.41 | unum | especially as a step parent I think that's a terrible term to use |
| 21:34.30 | mindjuju | unum, i guess i'm wrong. in weekly world news there is an article (as quoted by so i married an axe murderer) from July 7, 1992 that describes a man that gave birth to a baby |
| 21:34.41 | unum | :) |
| 21:34.48 | mindjuju | that's an awesome movie |
| 21:34.57 | unum | ever see that red dwarf episode? |
| 21:35.04 | mindjuju | nope |
| 21:46.28 | macnewbold | wow |
| 21:46.45 | macnewbold | mindjuju: did you ever see the movie Junior (with Ahnold) |
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| 21:47.24 | mindjuju | oh i didn't |
| 21:47.29 | mindjuju | but i know the movie |
| 21:47.40 | mindjuju | it had, darn it what's her name |
| 21:49.43 | mindjuju | emma thompson |
| 21:49.58 | mindjuju | i remember the movie cover (used to work at a bb many years ago) |
| 21:55.55 | jsmith | mindjuju: That explains a lot :-p |
| 21:57.56 | mindjuju | o.0 |
| 22:04.09 | herlo | mindjuju: yes? |
| 22:35.30 | mgeary | hey cake folks |
| 22:35.49 | mindjuju | i enjoy a good piece of cake |
| 22:35.55 | mgeary | why might i be getting infinite redirects on a new app i'm setting up locally? |
| 22:36.12 | mgeary | i suspect it's a common Cake issue |
| 22:36.45 | mgeary | i request /css/auth.css and it redirects to /app/webroot/css/auth.css and then to /app/webroot/app/webroot/css/auth.css |
| 22:36.48 | mgeary | and it just keeps going |
| 22:37.02 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 22:37.19 | macnewbold | mgeary: check your .htaccess files and index.php files |
| 22:37.21 | mgeary | http://dpaste.com/753538/ |
| 22:37.24 | mgeary | that's the htaccess |
| 22:37.50 | macnewbold | does the file actually exist? |
| 22:37.54 | mgeary | how should the index.php file be customized for an environment? |
| 22:38.01 | macnewbold | it generally shouldn't |
| 22:38.15 | macnewbold | well, other than sometimes the path to root in /webroot/index.php |
| 22:38.50 | mgeary | oh. should my documentRoot point to webroot? Or to the directory that contains "app" ? |
| 22:39.15 | mgeary | hm. the latter, it seems. that's what i have |
| 22:40.01 | macnewbold | yeah, the latter |
| 22:40.35 | macnewbold | there are three places - /.htaccess /app/.htaccess and app/webroot/.htaccess |
| 22:40.59 | mgeary | oh |
| 22:41.01 | macnewbold | the one in webroot should have some rewritecond in it that specify -d -f |
| 22:41.02 | mgeary | i just brought the one over |
| 22:41.13 | macnewbold | so that the file doesn't exist and a directory doesn't exist with that name |
| 22:41.21 | mgeary | that'll do it |
| 22:41.46 | mgeary | THERE we go |
| 22:41.46 | mgeary | nice |
| 22:41.48 | mgeary | thanks, macnewbold |
| 22:42.03 | mgeary | 'tis lovely now |
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| 22:49.15 | macnewbold | yay! |
| 22:54.14 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 22:54.16 | raifbot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at DexterTheDragon. |
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