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| 14:48.12 | wps | josephscott: we've made the etag change |
| 14:48.19 | josephscott | woot! |
| 14:48.54 | wps | how do I test that? |
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| 14:50.29 | josephscott | wps: by fix, did you mean disable? |
| 14:50.46 | wps | I asked our IT guy to change the setting for etags |
| 14:50.47 | wps | he said he did |
| 14:51.04 | josephscott | it looks like they've been disabled |
| 14:51.09 | josephscott | so, the way to test |
| 14:51.15 | josephscott | 'host media.vivint.com' |
| 14:51.27 | josephscott | that will give you a list of all the IPs for media.vivint.com |
| 14:51.37 | josephscott | curl -v -s -H 'Host: media.vivint.com' http://74.55.53.41/www.vivint.com/en/images/front/packages_intro_new_test2.jpg > /dev/null |
| 14:52.05 | josephscott | loop through each IP in the list (there are 4) running that curl command for each one |
| 14:52.20 | josephscott | if you get different Etag values from each host, it is configured incorrectly |
| 14:52.29 | wps | thank you |
| 14:52.32 | josephscott | right now, it appears they don't return etags at all |
| 14:53.00 | josephscott | which is better than broken etags, but not as good as working etags :-) |
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| 15:41.19 | mgeary | question for you google service users |
| 15:41.52 | mgeary | if i have an account set up with google with a NON-google email address, such that i can use Google docs and such, is it not the case that i can also use that same account for Gtalk? |
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| 15:48.49 | mindjuju_ | mgeary, i think gtalk is connected to the gmail acct |
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| 15:50.00 | josephscott | yep, I think that would kind of be like trying to use gmail without having a gmail account |
| 15:50.18 | mindjuju_ | i know my chat histories can be stored under a label in gmail |
| 15:50.40 | mindjuju_ | ~josephscott |
| 15:50.40 | ibot | somebody said josephscott was unknowable, or quite possibly the most interesting man in the world |
| 15:50.55 | mindjuju_ | love it |
| 15:54.58 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 15:54.59 | raifbot | Chuck Norris once got bit by a rattle snake........ After three days of pain and agony ..................the rattle snake died |
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| 16:16.09 | mgeary | mindjuju_, josephscott, but look here: |
| 16:16.10 | mgeary | https://accounts.google.com/NewAccount?service=talk |
| 16:16.31 | mgeary | "Your Google Account gives you access to Google Talk and other Google services" -- note that it doesn't require a google amil |
| 16:16.32 | mgeary | email |
| 16:17.00 | josephscott | right, but you need some sort of account, run through google |
| 16:17.44 | mgeary | right |
| 16:17.51 | mgeary | but that doesn't have to be a @gmail.com account |
| 16:18.02 | josephscott | yep |
| 16:18.11 | mgeary | for example, my google docs are tied to my @gearyweb.com email |
| 16:18.27 | mgeary | however, signing in to Gtalk under this non-gmail address seems to be problematic |
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| 16:29.31 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:29.31 | raifbot | crushes jnbek with a full height scsi disk. |
| 16:31.39 | captbrogers | I've never understood why so many applications that are Mac only cost so dang much. |
| 16:31.42 | captbrogers | Git Tower for example |
| 16:31.55 | herlo | captbrogers: because they are sold by Apple. |
| 16:32.04 | herlo | and they can |
| 16:32.06 | captbrogers | Seemed like a good idea, but the pricing just made me feel like it was a waste |
| 16:32.30 | captbrogers | Github just came out with a Windows GUI for working with them, and they release it for free |
| 16:32.49 | herlo | yes, but github's model is to sell private repos |
| 16:32.54 | captbrogers | I know Git Tower will use any repo, but still, they are similar in function, one is free and the other isn't |
| 16:33.02 | herlo | if they don't have good clients, why would anyone use github |
| 16:33.13 | captbrogers | They haven't had one until now |
| 16:33.18 | captbrogers | Or none that I was aware of |
| 16:33.19 | herlo | I mean, git is awesome on its own, but there are people who don't know how to use git |
| 16:33.31 | herlo | so if there is a free tool, it sparks adoption |
| 16:33.54 | herlo | but Apple thinks about how much money they can squeeze from their user base each time they design a product |
| 16:34.20 | captbrogers | I guess my main gripe is when I had a Mac (previous employer), I hated finding a piece of software that seemed like it was great and would work for what I need only to see a $60 tag on the download page |
| 16:35.28 | herlo | yup, but some people are willing to pay that amount |
| 16:35.47 | captbrogers | I know, and I'm not one of them |
| 16:36.06 | herlo | captbrogers: http://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/ |
| 16:36.10 | captbrogers | I don't mind paying for software |
| 16:36.20 | captbrogers | I just don't like software that is nearly as much as an OS |
| 16:36.46 | herlo | heh, you didn't pay only $60 (or even $100) for OSX. It just feels that way. |
| 16:36.59 | jtsnow | fwiw, the mac github client was available for free well before the windows client |
| 16:37.04 | carmony | $rlart |
| 16:37.04 | raifbot | whacks jsmith upside the head. |
| 16:37.10 | carmony | ~rlart |
| 16:37.11 | ibot | beats macnewbold to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 16:37.17 | jsmith | carmony: Thanks.... I think. |
| 16:37.23 | carmony | good choices, raifbot and ibot |
| 16:37.23 | carmony | :P |
| 16:37.39 | jsmith | carmony: At least they're larting the smart people :-p |
| 16:37.45 | carmony | hehe |
| 16:38.05 | herlo | jtsnow: yes, for sure because github has a bunch of mac users on it :) |
| 16:38.08 | captbrogers | jtsnow: When I had a Mac, I couldn't find a free github tool |
| 16:39.23 | macnewbold | captbrogers: i thought "git" was the tool |
| 16:39.27 | macnewbold | ~jinx herlo |
| 16:39.29 | herlo | though github didn't provide that... |
| 16:39.30 | herlo | stop |
| 16:41.46 | captbrogers | macnewbold: git has been free for any OS, I'm talking about a GUI for it. I was trying to convince my team to switch to it, but the only GUI tool out there (at the time and what I could find) was Git Tower. At $60 a license for a team to try something out wasn't going to happen |
| 16:41.57 | captbrogers | If there were a decent and free tool, they might have tried it |
| 16:42.15 | macnewbold | sometimes I think that a team that insists on a GUI may just be the wrong team… ;) |
| 16:42.30 | captbrogers | I agree, I have no problems using command line |
| 16:42.43 | captbrogers | But to get some of them to switch meant finding a GUI |
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| 16:52.33 | josephscott | http://mac.github.com/ ? |
| 16:53.23 | josephscott | herlo: git tower appears to be owned by "fournova GmbH" not Apple, at least from what I can tell on their site |
| 16:55.26 | herlo | josephscott: sure. I understand what you are saying. I would still say that Apple divined the ecosystem where paying for apps that do little more than free apps do but look cool is the standard. |
| 16:56.18 | josephscott | hmmm, that seems an overly broad statement, but if you look at it from the point of view of never using/liking a gui I could see wanting to say that |
| 16:57.53 | herlo | no. I use many guis each day. It's more of a culture statement within the Mac lovers than a 'practicality' statement. I'm not saying they don't have good products, and want to make $$. It's more of an observation to me that everything within the Mac/Apple ecosystem, just costs $99 |
| 16:59.05 | josephscott | which is funny since git tower costs $59 :-) |
| 16:59.24 | herlo | lol |
| 16:59.32 | josephscott | I suppose you could flip that |
| 16:59.43 | herlo | haha, yup |
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| 17:10.46 | ninnypants | captbrogers: Github for mac, Gitbox, SourceTree all seem to work pretty well |
| 17:13.04 | ninnypants | captbrogers: and for windows tortoiseGIT works well and github just released github for windows |
| 17:25.27 | TuxToaster | personally for GUI I freaking love Tower |
| 17:25.57 | TuxToaster | GitHub for mac isn't horrible, but it's basically just a simple GUI to handle commits and syncing with GitHub repos only. |
| 17:26.10 | TuxToaster | Tower works well with any repo and has some really nice features |
| 17:30.30 | josephscott | nothing makes my day like "stale NFS file handle" :-( |
| 17:30.48 | herlo | lol |
| 17:30.48 | herlo | josephscott: I love those too |
| 17:30.58 | josephscott | ~nfs-- |
| 17:31.01 | josephscott | ~karma nfs |
| 17:31.01 | ibot | nfs has karma of -1 |
| 17:31.09 | herlo | ~nfs++ |
| 17:31.16 | herlo | specifically for v5 |
| 17:31.19 | herlo | ser v4 |
| 17:31.26 | herlo | man, I can't type today |
| 17:39.24 | josephscott | $lart nfs |
| 17:39.25 | raifbot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses nfs's head to break the homerun record. |
| 17:43.39 | TuxToaster | ~nfs-- |
| 17:43.40 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 17:46.50 | herlo | ~nfs++ |
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| 17:56.32 | josephscott | $mindtrick jnbek |
| 17:56.32 | raifbot | (jedi hand wave) jnbek these aren't the droids you're looking for. |
| 17:57.32 | jnbek | who the heck do all these droid phone's belong too? and moreover, why are they stacked around me like that.... |
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| 18:38.57 | mindjuju_ | does it mean i'm strongly biased if, upon learning that microsoft has created a new FB, that i start by making fun of the name so.cl ? |
| 18:41.35 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: I would say that is a good indicator. |
| 18:42.36 | mindjuju_ | darn |
| 18:43.23 | macnewbold | i don't know - even without knowing it's backed by MS, the name alone is worthy of ridicule |
| 18:43.37 | mindjuju_ | yeah, see |
| 18:43.45 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:43.47 | mindjuju_ | who would name their social site, soc-o |
| 18:43.52 | mindjuju_ | err, so.cl |
| 18:45.10 | SunSparc | Well, it kinda makes sense. |
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| 18:46.58 | mindjuju_ | i wonder if i'm becoming onery in my old-timey-ness |
| 18:47.26 | mindjuju_ | i already got me an FB account, i don't want no so.cl nor any of the other 1000x FB clones out there today |
| 18:47.50 | mindjuju_ | i don't even know what to do with my linkedin account, and they keep bugging me to do things |
| 18:49.01 | macnewbold | nah, you're just keeping innovation on track, rather than heading down weird tangents |
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| 20:00.36 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju_: http://soundcloud.com/eric-prydz/eric-prydz-essential-mix-live |
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| 21:53.04 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 21:53.04 | raifbot | plops supernovia into a giant vat of herring. |
| 21:53.20 | supernovia | Mm. Herring. |
| 21:56.56 | mindjuju_ | thx DtD! |
| 21:57.12 | josephscott | supernovia: how is it going? |
| 21:57.35 | supernovia | Hey josephscott :) So far so good… how are you? |
| 21:57.47 | josephscott | good, first day back in working out so far? |
| 22:01.21 | mindjuju_ | wow! fungus in a shirt and tie and a look that says, if this gets posted ANYwhere, i'll haX the server dead |
| 22:01.41 | mindjuju_ | do i dare post the URL? |
| 22:01.44 | fungus | nope |
| 22:01.49 | mindjuju_ | k |
| 22:01.54 | fungus | :) |
| 22:02.15 | mindjuju_ | what was the occassion? |
| 22:02.24 | fungus | sister's wedding |
| 22:02.37 | DexterTheDragon | and who'd you steal the clothes from |
| 22:03.04 | herlo | mindjuju_: send it via email. He won't see it.... |
| 22:03.13 | fungus | lol |
| 22:03.17 | fungus | I read all your emails |
| 22:03.23 | mindjuju_ | yeah, i was going to say |
| 22:03.25 | fungus | I read all emails. |
| 22:03.30 | herlo | fungus: I gave mindjuju_ my gpg pub key |
| 22:03.34 | herlo | good luck |
| 22:03.36 | fungus | doh |
| 22:03.42 | herlo | you do not have my private key either :) |
| 22:04.57 | fungus | Yeah, it sucked. |
| 22:05.03 | herlo | lol |
| 22:05.22 | fungus | at least it was in my backyard, so I could change quickly afterwards. |
| 22:05.32 | herlo | fungus: does it remind you of 'Teachers Quorum'? |
| 22:06.06 | fungus | yikes, that phrase evokes painful memories. |
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| 22:06.07 | herlo | I hated wearing 'Sunday best' every Sunday. |
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| 22:06.35 | mindjuju_ | herlo, doesn't he have that look |
| 22:06.44 | herlo | lol, sure |
| 22:06.46 | mindjuju_ | like, Try posting this online, see what happens, look |
| 22:07.10 | fungus | gah |
| 22:07.12 | herlo | lol |
| 22:07.23 | herlo | it's on the facebook, it cannot be stopped! |
| 22:07.41 | fungus | I hate that bookface thing. |
| 22:07.58 | mindjuju_ | i prefer friendface |
| 22:08.59 | herlo | fungus: you have another colored shirt on your profile! |
| 22:09.07 | herlo | AND A TIE too! |
| 22:09.29 | fungus | ugh, fyi, leaving logged in devices unattended is dangerous. |
| 22:09.58 | herlo | lol |
| 22:10.08 | mindjuju_ | oh sure as day! |
| 22:10.19 | fungus | in other news, CouchDB sucks. |
| 22:10.20 | fungus | http://saucelabs.com/blog/index.php/2012/05/goodbye-couchdb/ |
| 22:10.28 | herlo | ooh, that is funny. I kind of wish I could stay and enjoy the moment longer, but house hunting awaits me |
| 22:11.48 | eggyknap | Fun... sorta |
| 22:12.48 | eggyknap | Wait... moving from CouchDB to MySQL was supposed to be ... an improvement? :) |
| 22:13.21 | josephscott | they must have run out of silver bullets |
| 22:13.32 | eggyknap | heh |
| 22:19.05 | fungus | But the whole JSON blob in a text column sounds ugly. |
| 22:19.41 | fungus | i'm likely biased though. I actually like relational databases for the most part. |
| 22:19.51 | eggyknap | I do too, just not MySQL. |
| 22:19.52 | eggyknap | :) |
| 22:20.07 | fungus | hehe |
| 22:20.16 | eggyknap | JSON blobs sound like the worst of both worlds. After all, text parsing is *so* efficient... |
| 22:20.41 | fungus | exactly. |
| 22:20.54 | eggyknap | That's why XML databases have been such a hit... |
| 22:21.00 | fungus | lol |
| 22:21.03 | eggyknap | Well, admitedly JSON >> XML |
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| 22:27.36 | mindjuju_ | sup beandog |
| 22:27.45 | beandog | MySQL drives me **INSANE** |
| 22:27.55 | beandog | I hate that database with all my sysadmin soul. |
| 22:27.56 | mindjuju_ | it's funny you s ay that beandog |
| 22:27.57 | josephscott | ~drive beandog |
| 22:27.58 | ibot | ACTION jumps behind the wheel of a specially designed limo & chauffeurs beandog anywhere he/she needs to go, while beandog sits in the back playing bzflag |
| 22:28.09 | eggyknap | ~moss beandog |
| 22:28.09 | ibot | beandog: Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 22:28.13 | beandog | heh |
| 22:28.16 | mindjuju_ | eggyknap and fungus were badmouthing it just a moment ago |
| 22:28.34 | eggyknap | .oO("Yes, I tried turning it off and on again. After that it forgot all my data.") |
| 22:28.53 | fungus | no, i wasn't badmouthing MySQL. Was badmouthing CouchDB and JSON inside MySQL |
| 22:29.03 | beandog | I'm going to spend the rest of the day playing with mplayer just so I can keep my sanity. |
| 22:29.15 | eggyknap | I was badmouthing MySQL generally ... fungus isn't quite so generous in his badmouthing as I am. |
| 22:29.23 | fungus | hehe |
| 22:30.17 | beandog | eggyknap: I'm going to figure out how to pull up the OSD menu and execute commands from it |
| 22:30.25 | beandog | fungus: whut? I haz mplayer-fu. |
| 22:30.35 | fungus | hehe, and I haz MySQL-fu |
| 22:30.41 | beandog | I'm not trading. |
| 22:30.47 | eggyknap | mplayer does what I tell it to, but it's a pain to figure out how to tell it what to do. mysql does whatever the (&*^%^ it wants, no matter what I tell it :) |
| 22:30.49 | fungus | me neither. I have ffmpeg |
| 22:31.06 | fungus | lol, pretty much eggyknap |
| 22:31.06 | eggyknap | lol |
| 22:31.19 | beandog | YES |
| 22:31.23 | beandog | HANDBRAKE+++++++++++++++++++ |
| 22:31.44 | eggyknap | would I display profound ignorance if I showed I don't know what handbrake is? |
| 22:31.47 | fungus | I have spent a lot of time digging through mplayer's man page, then give up and use handbrake, ffmpeg, etc. |
| 22:32.15 | mindjuju_ | eggyknap -- handbrake is the recess's peanut butter cup of software |
| 22:32.15 | beandog | eggyknap: Really nice frontend for ripping DVDs |
| 22:32.16 | fungus | Handbrake = video encoder/dvd ripper |
| 22:32.27 | josephscott | I just rip new DVDs to h.264 (.mp4) so that I can use them pretty much any where |
| 22:32.29 | beandog | fungus: trying to do what? |
| 22:32.32 | josephscott | iphone, plex + roku, etc. |
| 22:32.36 | beandog | ~pirate josephscott |
| 22:32.36 | ibot | ACTION illegally downloads josephscott and shares josephscott with all his friends |
| 22:32.38 | mindjuju_ | it combines several functions into delicious joyful blisss |
| 22:32.40 | fungus | beandog, lol, anything. |
| 22:32.49 | beandog | fungus: mplayer -fs foo |
| 22:32.50 | beandog | :) |
| 22:33.05 | fungus | most recently trying to capture images from a webcam |
| 22:33.07 | josephscott | I don't share the files with anyone, that would be wrong, of course |
| 22:33.24 | beandog | fungus: ffmpeg -i /dev/video0 -c copy camera.mpg |
| 22:33.31 | eggyknap | <cough> Of course!!1 |
| 22:33.38 | fungus | beandog, exactly. ffmpeg is easy. mplayer is not |
| 22:33.39 | eggyknap | .oo(methinks he doth protest too much) |
| 22:33.50 | beandog | fungus: oh, yah, don't use mencoder. It's ancient and dead. |
| 22:33.56 | josephscott | if I could buy h.264 encoded movies from Amazon/Apple/etc. without DRM, I'd just do that |
| 22:34.11 | beandog | I buy from Amazon Video and just stream them from anywhere. |
| 22:34.17 | beandog | Well, except my phone. |
| 22:34.22 | beandog | But PS3 and Roku, yes. |
| 22:34.31 | josephscott | yeah, see, I don't want the DRM, I just want the movie :-) |
| 22:34.46 | beandog | It's all about convenience |
| 22:34.55 | beandog | So go with whatever, man. :) |
| 22:34.56 | josephscott | and right now buying a DVD, ripping it with handbrake is the best way to do that, which I think is lame |
| 22:35.12 | beandog | seriously |
| 22:35.16 | beandog | why aren't you buying blurays? |
| 22:35.35 | fungus | is ripping blurays any easier these days? |
| 22:35.40 | beandog | and ripping those |
| 22:35.43 | beandog | fungus: heck yah baby! |
| 22:35.48 | beandog | fungus: makemkv, and yer done |
| 22:35.55 | fungus | ah, maybe i'd do that. |
| 22:36.01 | beandog | I started ripping them a few years ago |
| 22:36.10 | beandog | They're pretty large though, that's the only downside. |
| 22:36.13 | fungus | yeah, but years ago it was painful |
| 22:36.14 | beandog | 45 GB for a movie. |
| 22:36.14 | beandog | Eek |
| 22:36.23 | beandog | or higher |
| 22:36.28 | beandog | fungus: yah, this is the best solution |
| 22:36.31 | josephscott | I have no blue ray player, and no interest in buying more hardware, when I want to go all digital |
| 22:36.46 | beandog | fungus: linux port, too |
| 22:36.47 | fungus | oh wait, I don't have a bluray player in my desktop. |
| 22:37.14 | fungus | I'm with josephscott. all digital is better |
| 22:37.16 | josephscott | I did mkvs for awhile, but eventually settled on .mp4 h.264s as the best all around option for portability |
| 22:37.41 | beandog | I use mkv because of all the metadata I can cram in there |
| 22:37.48 | beandog | which is quite a lot, in my case. |
| 22:38.05 | mindjuju_ | plus beandog has the entertainment center with the nice tv, etc where blueray makes sense |
| 22:38.36 | beandog | mindjuju_: my bedroom TV is a 20 year old Sony CRT. It is *awesome* |
| 22:38.37 | mindjuju_ | dvds are good enough for me |
| 22:38.43 | fungus | I watch more video on my iPad and Desktop than I do on a big TV. The TV is for video games. |
| 22:38.50 | jtsnow | have any of you tried UltraViolet? |
| 22:38.54 | josephscott | yeah, I really wanted to go with mkv, but in the end my desire for portability was more important |
| 22:38.58 | beandog | jtsnow: no, whats that |
| 22:39.00 | mindjuju_ | that reminds me fungus, how is D3 ? |
| 22:39.08 | fungus | It's way fun. |
| 22:39.12 | mindjuju_ | ultraviolet is the digital download |
| 22:39.19 | mindjuju_ | via some website, a movie studio, i think |
| 22:39.27 | mindjuju_ | or maybe wally mart |
| 22:39.34 | josephscott | jtsnow: no, I have a DVD movie that offers that as an option, but DRM by any other name is still DRM :-( |
| 22:39.41 | fungus | Even more fun when playing w/ friends. |
| 22:43.26 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 22:43.28 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Clear 86f / 30c Humidity: 12% Wind: W at 12 mph |
| 22:43.46 | mindjuju_ | $weather park city, utah |
| 22:43.47 | raifbot | 3mindjuju_ - 0,2current weather for park city, utah - Clear 86f / 30c Humidity: 12% Wind: W at 12 mph |
| 22:44.27 | ninnypants | ahh no josePHPogda today |
| 22:44.42 | eggyknap | $weather 84637 |
| 22:44.42 | raifbot | 3eggyknap - 0,2current weather for 84637 - Clear 91f / 33c Humidity: 7% Wind: SW at 18 mph |
| 22:44.53 | eggyknap | s/18 mph/48 mph/ |
| 22:48.16 | mindjuju_ | so if i want to see if a port i wanted closed is now closed, the way to test is PuTTY > telnet > desired port ? |
| 22:48.36 | mindjuju_ | let's pretend i want 995 closed, could i telnet to 995 ? |
| 22:49.18 | eggyknap | You could try. If no firewall between you and the port in question was blocking it or otherwise modifying the traffic, you'd see if it was open (to tcp traffic) or not |
| 22:49.47 | eggyknap | But it could be listening only for UDP (or some other protocol) or listening on a different interface, or listening only when you did some proper port knocking sequence... |
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| 23:01.03 | fungus | mindjuju_, yes telnet would tell you the state of the TCP port. If it connects or not. |
| 23:01.51 | fungus | Though it won't be useful to test with. 995 is for POP3S. more useful to test would be "openssl s_client -connect host:995" |
| 23:05.43 | mgeary | hey |
| 23:05.46 | mgeary | http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ |
| 23:05.58 | mgeary | why don't i see x86_64 there? |
| 23:06.35 | DexterTheDragon | I see amd64 all over the place |
| 23:06.46 | mgeary | but amd != x86, no? |
| 23:07.18 | DexterTheDragon | amd64 == x86_64 |
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| 23:12.29 | josephscott | http://nmap.org/6/ |
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