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| 03:28.49 | UtahDave | herlo: ping |
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| 03:49.15 | herlo | UtahDave: pong |
| 03:49.28 | UtahDave | can I pm you? |
| 03:50.57 | herlo | sure |
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| 04:20.28 | herlo | whoa! http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/14/man-bitten-by-rattlesnake-at-idaho-wal-mart/ |
| 04:22.49 | Monnok | yeah, current greeters dont get my attention anymore either |
| 04:23.59 | herlo | lol |
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| 14:08.54 | carmony | gooooooood morning |
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| 14:15.39 | captbrogers | carmony: that sounded like Smee and I mentally added "Neverland" to the end. |
| 14:15.46 | carmony | lol |
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| 15:18.44 | beandog | buenas galletitas |
| 15:19.01 | jsmith | tengo muchas gatitas en mis pantalones |
| 15:19.07 | jsmith | Morning, beandog |
| 15:19.18 | beandog | jsmith: lol |
| 15:19.30 | beandog | thats awesome |
| 15:19.34 | jsmith | Sorry, punch line to one of the funniest things I've seen a few years |
| 15:19.53 | jsmith | We were at the Fedora Users and Developers conference a year ago January |
| 15:19.57 | jsmith | in Phoenix |
| 15:20.02 | herlo | jsmith: something about cats in the pants! |
| 15:20.04 | herlo | ?? |
| 15:20.13 | jsmith | and one of the Fedora contributors from Venezuela had come up to participate |
| 15:20.19 | jsmith | and I was helping translate a few things for her |
| 15:20.40 | jsmith | One of the main Fedora developers walked up to her and said "I only remember one phrase in Spanish" |
| 15:20.48 | jsmith | She just about died laughing |
| 15:20.57 | jsmith | herlo: "I have a lot of kittens in my pants" |
| 15:21.04 | herlo | I know :) |
| 15:22.15 | captbrogers | In other news: php.net CDN is down, stylesheets are being applied |
| 15:22.39 | beandog | huh? |
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| 15:33.44 | beandog | ~welcome mgeary |
| 15:33.44 | ibot | Howdy, mgeary! |
| 15:33.48 | beandog | ~morning TuxToaster |
| 15:33.48 | ibot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping TuxToaster in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 15:33.54 | mgeary | heya |
| 15:33.54 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 15:33.57 | mgeary | one sec |
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| 15:34.05 | beandog | if I could bend space and time, I think that's what I'd do, too |
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| 15:34.42 | TuxToaster | ~moo beandog |
| 15:34.42 | ibot | ACTION moos at beandog |
| 15:35.07 | beandog | I say I ain't got the money for the mortgage on the cow |
| 15:35.29 | TuxToaster | ~give beandog money for the mortgage on the cow |
| 15:35.29 | ibot | ACTION gives money for the mortgage on the cow to beandog |
| 15:36.10 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0MsdH6OfW4 |
| 15:36.45 | TuxToaster | wow. |
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| 15:43.40 | beandog | I wonder what sociologists of the future will think when they look at youtube |
| 15:43.52 | beandog | "Apparently people in this generation worshipped cats." |
| 15:44.06 | eggyknap | .oO("Probably people have been idiots all along, and weren't as able to express it before youtube") |
| 15:45.05 | unum | I agree with eggyknap |
| 15:45.33 | unum | well the smart ones will |
| 15:46.01 | unum | most won't ever look at youtube and for inexplicable reason assume we were all much moral than them |
| 15:46.20 | eggyknap | The EMP will have destroyed youtube in not too long, anyway :) |
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| 15:47.10 | beandog | along with toy story 2 |
| 15:47.25 | unum | in sunday school the emergency preparedness person read us a transcript where a guy selling emeregency supplies stated "the terrorists" were likely to strike us with an emp |
| 15:47.44 | unum | if you can do a nationwide EMP why not just wipe out new york or LA |
| 15:47.45 | mindjuju_ | i'm trying my hand at some bash fu, and i've got a small prob, this isn't doing what i intended, can somebody offer advice find . -mtime -1 ! -name './images/*' |
| 15:47.48 | mahelious | moral? im pretty sure archaeological evidence of the 60s will dissuade them of such a notion |
| 15:47.51 | unum | really it seems like it would do more damage |
| 15:48.13 | beandog | mindjuju_: what are you trying to do? that -name doesn't look right |
| 15:48.47 | mindjuju_ | find all files that changed in the last day, exclude /images/ directory |
| 15:49.05 | eggyknap | unum: I'd much rather someone wiped out NYC or LA, than that they set of an EMP. Not only am I not too fond of either city, the EMP leaves lots of desperate people alive, whereas wiping out a city ... wipes it out. |
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| 15:52.00 | mindjuju_ | oh, prune |
| 15:55.03 | unum | mahelious: I know sooooooooooooooooo many people who think people are far less moral today then they used to be |
| 15:55.15 | unum | they should look at the 1880 sandy, ut census ;) |
| 15:55.36 | unum | I'm pretty sure there are less prostitutes per capita "now days" |
| 15:55.47 | unum | rosy retrospective is my pet peeve |
| 15:55.57 | mahelious | wasnt ogden founded as an alternative to slc with whores and booze? |
| 15:56.14 | herlo | mindjuju_: also you probably want -or or -and or -not :) |
| 15:56.21 | mahelious | back in the 1860s that town would have made las vegas look prudish |
| 15:57.51 | mahelious | well, off to watch a keynote. see you folks in an hour or so. |
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| 16:00.03 | mindjuju_ | darn you -prune, why you no work? |
| 16:00.24 | herlo | mindjuju_: um... |
| 16:00.42 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 16:00.45 | mindjuju_ | ...sigh... |
| 16:00.57 | herlo | mindjuju_: what I see are a few things with your statement that might help |
| 16:01.05 | herlo | one is './images/*' |
| 16:01.17 | herlo | er -name './images/*' |
| 16:01.51 | mindjuju_ | well, this is my latest incarnation |
| 16:01.52 | mindjuju_ | find . -mtime -1 -wholename '/images/' -prune |
| 16:01.54 | herlo | so you are already looking in the current directory, it's not going to find files that match './images/*' from my POV since it's really going to be 'images/*' that you proabably want |
| 16:02.06 | herlo | is images at the root of the filesystem? |
| 16:02.17 | mindjuju_ | no images in current dir |
| 16:02.24 | mindjuju_ | yeah, i flubbed up with that one, didn't i |
| 16:02.33 | mindjuju_ | darn it, i need the . in the whole name |
| 16:02.47 | herlo | also, name/wholename isn't looking for a directory, it's looking for a match |
| 16:02.59 | herlo | it *could* be a directory, but do you want all the files inside that dir? |
| 16:03.31 | mindjuju_ | yeah, i want to ignore that whole segment of the dir |
| 16:03.38 | mindjuju_ | here is the example from man |
| 16:03.45 | mindjuju_ | find . -wholename './src/emacs' -prune -o -print |
| 16:03.57 | herlo | as for -mtime 1, that would indicate that the file changed exactly 1 day ago iirc |
| 16:04.11 | mindjuju_ | yup, i need the mtime 1 |
| 16:04.20 | mindjuju_ | i'd rather it in hours, but i didn't find provisions for that |
| 16:04.24 | herlo | not less than 1day or more than 1day? |
| 16:04.35 | herlo | mmin is there |
| 16:04.47 | mindjuju_ | here is what man says about prune To ignore a whole directory tree, use -prune rather than checking every file in the tree. For example, to skip the directory 'src/emacs' and all files and directories under it, and print the names of the other files found, do something like this: |
| 16:05.02 | wps | anyone interested in some side work? |
| 16:05.19 | beandog | I hear mindjuju_ has tons of free time |
| 16:05.26 | beandog | I mean, he is on IRC> |
| 16:05.32 | wps | I have a friend who's company needs dev done |
| 16:05.34 | mindjuju_ | ooodles of time |
| 16:05.40 | mgeary | wps: what kind of work? Treeline is always interested in new work |
| 16:05.41 | herlo | mindjuju_: so what is your goal? To print out the entire tree under images/? |
| 16:05.41 | wps | this is a real, paying gig |
| 16:05.56 | mindjuju_ | just slightly different herlo |
| 16:06.03 | beandog | herlo: I think he wants to ignore images? |
| 16:06.04 | herlo | mindjuju_: k, tell me |
| 16:06.09 | beandog | I would just use grep, honestly. |
| 16:06.14 | mindjuju_ | it's to print out all files with a modify date of 1 day and exclude the images dir |
| 16:06.15 | beandog | | grep -v images |
| 16:06.26 | herlo | beandog: eh, no |
| 16:06.33 | unum | i <3 git |
| 16:06.34 | beandog | :) |
| 16:06.39 | unum | I should have switched years ago |
| 16:06.56 | herlo | find ! -name 'images/' -mtime 1 -print |
| 16:07.02 | herlo | or |
| 16:07.10 | herlo | find <directorytostart> ! -name 'images/' -mtime 1 -print |
| 16:07.19 | herlo | . isn't explicitly necessary |
| 16:07.20 | beandog | I was gonna say, don't you need . |
| 16:07.34 | beandog | doesn't it complain if you don't do it? |
| 16:07.46 | herlo | don't do what? |
| 16:07.49 | beandog | nevermind |
| 16:07.53 | herlo | lol |
| 16:07.54 | herlo | okay |
| 16:08.03 | beandog | I'm still going to use grep. |
| 16:08.09 | beandog | you can't stop me, herlo! |
| 16:08.10 | herlo | beandog: I know |
| 16:08.20 | beandog | mostly because find annoys me |
| 16:08.30 | beandog | is there an option in find to sort the list alphabetically? |
| 16:08.32 | beandog | that drives me crayz. |
| 16:08.45 | herlo | um, don't think so |
| 16:08.53 | beandog | ~lart find |
| 16:08.53 | ibot | lowers find's priority |
| 16:08.53 | herlo | | sort -u would probably work |
| 16:09.04 | herlo | beandog: man find before you lart it |
| 16:09.17 | beandog | I did |
| 16:09.21 | beandog | maybe. |
| 16:09.27 | herlo | heh |
| 16:09.35 | beandog | no, I've never been able to find a way to do it |
| 16:09.47 | beandog | I just pipe it |
| 16:09.59 | herlo | beandog: or you could |
| 16:10.02 | herlo | -exec something |
| 16:10.23 | beandog | I use xargs to exec stuff |
| 16:10.25 | beandog | I don't trust find |
| 16:11.09 | herlo | not sure why, find is awesome and probably the most powerfull tool for the command line |
| 16:11.26 | beandog | I think ls is the most powerful tool |
| 16:11.33 | influx | ~find++ |
| 16:12.13 | herlo | beandog: and yet, you don't trust it. |
| 16:12.14 | herlo | lol |
| 16:12.19 | beandog | I trust ls |
| 16:12.31 | herlo | ls is not as powerful as find by a fair margin |
| 16:12.42 | beandog | xargs is nicer because of how you can position the variable |
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| 16:13.10 | herlo | beandog: sure, but xargs is just a component that could be used via a pipeline with either find, ls, grep etc |
| 16:13.17 | beandog | right |
| 16:13.22 | beandog | ~xargs++ |
| 16:14.07 | herlo | no argument |
| 16:14.28 | herlo | a lot of what you can do with find doesn't require xargs |
| 16:14.46 | herlo | and find is definitely more capable than ls. |
| 16:14.51 | beandog | meh |
| 16:15.05 | beandog | I'm not gonna traipse around my filesystem using find everywhere |
| 16:17.24 | herlo | kk |
| 16:17.41 | wps | what do you call items in PHP like if, else, switch |
| 16:17.53 | wps | the word has escaped me |
| 16:18.00 | herlo | conditionalis? |
| 16:18.01 | wps | I'm drawing a complete blank |
| 16:18.05 | herlo | s/is/s/ |
| 16:18.33 | wps | yes, thank you |
| 16:20.29 | herlo | lol, okay |
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| 16:28.56 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 16:28.56 | raifbot | hooks into a hydrant and hoses itimber down. |
| 16:28.59 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
| 16:28.59 | ibot | forces jnbek to use Outlook Express |
| 16:29.12 | hhatfield | $8ball do you have it in for itimber? |
| 16:29.13 | raifbot | hhatfield - You may rely on it. |
| 16:29.25 | hhatfield | raifbot: jerk |
| 16:33.38 | itimber | $lart hhatfield |
| 16:33.38 | raifbot | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on hhatfield. |
| 16:33.43 | itimber | ~lart hhatfield |
| 16:33.43 | ibot | stabs hhatfield |
| 16:33.57 | itimber | woah ibot! |
| 16:34.14 | hhatfield | in my defense, I told raifbot he was a jerk for having it in for you |
| 16:34.48 | hhatfield | $8ball can ibot actually hurt me? |
| 16:34.48 | raifbot | hhatfield - Ask again later. |
| 16:34.55 | hhatfield | ~lart raifbot |
| 16:34.55 | ibot | declares raifbot a moron |
| 16:43.31 | hhatfield | so… who's been playing Diablo 3 this morning? |
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| 16:48.56 | hhatfield | jar carmony |
| 16:49.04 | hhatfield | ~jar carmony |
| 16:49.04 | ibot | carmony took the cookie from the cookie jar. "Who, me?", "Yes, you!", "Couldn't be!", "Then, who?" "mindjuju_ !" |
| 16:49.28 | mahelious | ~jar mindjuju_ |
| 16:49.28 | ibot | mindjuju_ took the cookie from the cookie jar. "Who, me?", "Yes, you!", "Couldn't be!", "Then, who?" "ninnypants !" |
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| 16:59.12 | beandog | what the crack |
| 16:59.23 | beandog | hhatfield: that's out already? |
| 16:59.38 | hhatfield | as of midnight this morning PDT |
| 16:59.59 | hhatfield | I contemplated staying up to join at the beginning |
| 17:00.25 | hhatfield | but then realized that would not work well with my "I'm not that young anymore" condition |
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| 17:11.42 | beandog | I wanted to stay up late playing Skyrim |
| 17:11.44 | beandog | I'm glad I didn't |
| 17:15.37 | beandog | I was getting so good at pickpocketing though |
| 17:17.57 | beandog | ~steal macnewbold's watch |
| 17:17.57 | ibot | ACTION grabs macnewbold's watch and gives it to beandog |
| 17:18.32 | hhatfield | ~thief beandog |
| 17:18.33 | macnewbold | nice |
| 17:18.42 | hhatfield | ~stop beandog |
| 17:18.42 | ibot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops beandog |
| 17:19.12 | beandog | ~summon a guard |
| 17:19.12 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing a guard's coordinates |
| 17:19.21 | beandog | heh |
| 17:20.57 | hhatfield | ~water ibot |
| 17:21.04 | hhatfield | ~douse ibot |
| 17:24.30 | romanovic | hhatfield: i played for about 30 minutes before work this morning. started a barbarian, did some mindless hacking and slashing. very cathartic. |
| 17:25.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 17:25.26 | raifbot | takes a big bite out of peno's jugular vein. |
| 17:25.42 | hhatfield | $8ball Team Edward? |
| 17:25.43 | raifbot | hhatfield - Cannot predict now. |
| 17:26.27 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:26.35 | TuxToaster | $8ball team robot? |
| 17:26.35 | raifbot | TuxToaster - You may rely on it. |
| 17:26.50 | hhatfield | romanovic: fo sho |
| 17:27.52 | TuxToaster | ~summon ibot |
| 17:27.53 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing ibot's coordinates |
| 17:28.02 | hhatfield | ~find yourself |
| 17:28.05 | TuxToaster | meh. only one response. :P |
| 17:28.24 | hhatfield | ~lose yourself |
| 17:28.24 | ibot | yourself: You Lose. |
| 17:28.29 | hhatfield | ~win |
| 17:28.29 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, win is <NightHawkTheSane> my phone autocorrects "pfft" to "orgy" |
| 17:29.10 | hhatfield | ~win ibot |
| 17:29.10 | ibot | Congratulations, ibot! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL cd's, a set of 120! |
| 17:31.48 | TuxToaster | ~off herself |
| 17:31.48 | ibot | ACTION Pushes herself into the path of an oncoming vehicle and blames jsmith |
| 17:31.50 | hhatfield | yeah… that was the result of the ~find, I think |
| 17:31.57 | TuxToaster | that took a while |
| 17:32.52 | TuxToaster | hhatfield: the question is, did you really need ibot to get more AOL cd's? |
| 17:32.59 | TuxToaster | it's just more ammo |
| 17:33.11 | hhatfield | ~lart TuxToaster |
| 17:33.11 | ibot | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down TuxToaster's throat until TuxToaster puts on 150lbs |
| 17:33.24 | TuxToaster | *gasp* |
| 17:33.28 | TuxToaster | $lart hhatfield |
| 17:33.28 | hhatfield | well… guess she's keen on saving up her ammo for the right time |
| 17:33.28 | raifbot | farts in hhatfield's general direction. |
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| 18:13.15 | mindjuju_ | any python pros around? |
| 18:14.27 | jsmith | mindjuju_: Just throw out the question -- no need to ask for permission to ask a question |
| 18:15.31 | mindjuju_ | trying to run a dropbox python script, it is in execute mode, but getting this error -bash: ./dbcli.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 18:15.42 | mindjuju_ | i'm thinking i need to modify it to the right version of python i'm using |
| 18:15.52 | mindjuju_ | or upgrade my python |
| 18:15.57 | herlo | mindjuju_: which python |
| 18:16.11 | herlo | type that ^^ |
| 18:16.15 | mindjuju_ | python 2.4.3 |
| 18:16.21 | DexterTheDragon | change it to #!/usr/bin/env python like it should be |
| 18:16.31 | mindjuju_ | oh, me type |
| 18:16.37 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: yes, that could help too |
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| 18:16.48 | mgeary | mindjuju: what DexterTheDragon said |
| 18:16.51 | mindjuju_ | it says /usr/bin/python |
| 18:17.01 | herlo | interesting |
| 18:17.01 | mindjuju_ | k |
| 18:20.19 | fungus | mindjuju_, your problem is caused by the funny ^M at the end of the line. |
| 18:20.29 | fungus | Using env is totally optional. |
| 18:20.57 | herlo | fungus: ahhh, I missed that! |
| 18:21.07 | herlo | mindjuju_: dos2unix ftw! |
| 18:21.18 | fungus | yup |
| 18:21.20 | DexterTheDragon | fungus is right, but env is still the way to go |
| 18:21.41 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: what you just said is 'fungus is right, except where he isn't' :) |
| 18:21.45 | herlo | lol |
| 18:23.22 | mahelious | s/isn't/isn\'t |
| 18:23.58 | mahelious | :p |
| 18:24.00 | fungus | I think using env is silly. |
| 18:24.37 | fungus | Yes, it increases portability, but 90% of the time it's not needed. |
| 18:25.33 | DexterTheDragon | but it really irks us 10 percenters |
| 18:25.35 | fungus | using an alternatives system like debian uses is much better |
| 18:25.58 | DexterTheDragon | I work with multiple versions of ruby and python way too much to say env isn't useful |
| 18:26.28 | DexterTheDragon | and a quick alter of $PATH, which env uses, is better than debians alternatives |
| 18:27.16 | fungus | for dev, yes. But for production, no |
| 18:27.35 | DexterTheDragon | alternatives is nice for switching out things like which browser you use, but not hugely practical for jumping around ruby versions |
| 18:28.47 | fungus | Gah, another reason the rubyists annoy the crap out of me. |
| 18:29.08 | fungus | Every piece of software should be in a package. |
| 18:29.18 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: and don't you use bsd? things are never in /usr/bin on bsd. it's always in /usr/local/bin |
| 18:30.07 | opapo | I have a server that is proxying traffic for multiple sites |
| 18:30.14 | opapo | reverse proxy |
| 18:30.27 | opapo | I need help with the apache config |
| 18:30.28 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: how is that a rubyist thing? I almost never see python or php devs package their apps either |
| 18:30.52 | fungus | DexterTheDragon, I am referring to the installing of several diff versions thing |
| 18:30.57 | fungus | rvm and the like |
| 18:30.59 | fungus | eww |
| 18:31.44 | DexterTheDragon | yeah rvm is eww but you can't install multiple versions from ubuntu's repos |
| 18:31.50 | fungus | If your ruby isn't installed by package manager, your sysadmin should slap you. |
| 18:32.25 | fungus | If you need a custom ruby install, build your own package. |
| 18:32.31 | fungus | Never outside a package manager |
| 18:33.01 | fungus | Too many rubyists play cowboy sysadmin |
| 18:33.37 | DexterTheDragon | meh, rvm is the package manager. Things never stay solely within apt/yum. (pip, pear, gem) |
| 18:33.41 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: true |
| 18:34.00 | carmony | okay, time to get some work down to get the taste of meetings out of my mouth :P |
| 18:34.16 | fungus | pip, pear, gem, etc are bad too. those should be in your system package mgr. |
| 18:34.47 | fungus | Except temporarily while developing. |
| 18:35.51 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: you are a grumpy old man |
| 18:35.59 | fungus | lol |
| 18:36.12 | jsmith | fungus: The world needs more grumpy old men like you :-p |
| 18:36.14 | fungus | opapo, ignore our flame fest. ask away. |
| 18:41.22 | mahelious | oh yeah, i thought there was something going on today. |
| 18:41.41 | mahelious | so, whos called in sick today to play that new game? |
| 18:43.52 | opapo | fungus: asking in #httpd |
| 18:44.15 | fungus | mahelious, well... not me. :( |
| 18:44.24 | fungus | Most of my dept did though. |
| 18:48.18 | ninnypants | they're all probably battling the login page still |
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| 19:25.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 20:16.36 | mindjuju_ | kidneys located in lower back, just below ribcage, above hip, no? |
| 20:17.50 | mgeary | yes |
| 20:17.57 | mindjuju_ | hmm |
| 20:18.00 | mgeary | hurt? |
| 20:18.14 | mindjuju_ | yeah, running high fever, coughy, sneezy |
| 20:18.22 | mindjuju_ | i don't usually hurt there, just curious |
| 20:18.28 | mgeary | hmm. achiness could just be flu |
| 20:18.28 | jsmith | Not good... |
| 20:18.32 | mgeary | but might be more |
| 20:18.36 | mgeary | how long? |
| 20:18.40 | jsmith | Go get checked out |
| 20:18.48 | jsmith | Don't take chances with your kidneys |
| 20:18.51 | mindjuju_ | hit about 4p yesterday |
| 20:18.58 | mindjuju_ | the coughy, wheezy sneezy |
| 20:19.02 | mindjuju_ | this morn for kidneys |
| 20:19.19 | mgeary | so not too long. if it were my, i'd give it a day, but as jsmith says, it's often better safe than sorry |
| 20:19.26 | mgeary | *if it were me |
| 20:19.36 | mgeary | there have definitely been some bugs going around lately |
| 20:19.45 | mgeary | i was knocked flat a couple of weeks ago |
| 20:19.59 | mgeary | mostly useless for about 4 days |
| 20:20.06 | mindjuju_ | yeah, corban was sick all weekend, high fever, got better monday then all of us sick today |
| 20:20.15 | mgeary | yeah |
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| 20:29.41 | jsmith | mindjuju_: Smart :-p |
| 20:30.01 | mindjuju_ | my brain may hurt a little, but it's not crusty |
| 20:30.03 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 20:30.54 | herlo | mindjuju_: you are old like me, your brain is crusty :) |
| 20:31.19 | mindjuju_ | no way man! it's got tons of etchys and is way juciy |
| 20:31.28 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
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| 20:42.11 | unum | http://notalwaysright.com/dovahkiins-day-off/19832 |
| 20:46.07 | mindjuju_ | fungus, did you get D3? |
| 20:46.18 | fungus | of course |
| 20:46.25 | mindjuju_ | what you doing at work? |
| 20:46.30 | mindjuju_ | or are you remoted in? |
| 20:47.49 | fungus | I'm being sad. That's about it. |
| 20:48.06 | mindjuju_ | :( |
| 20:48.09 | fungus | Reading about Diablo instead of playing, or working |
| 20:50.43 | romanovic | mindjuju_: maybe you have puppet cancer |
| 20:53.05 | ninnypants | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/05/please-dont-learn-to-code.html |
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| 20:57.22 | mindjuju_ | puppet cancer? |
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| 21:01.50 | mindjuju_ | you know fungus, considering how long people waited for D3 from D2, makes us HL people sound like whiners |
| 21:01.55 | mindjuju_ | what was that like 10 yrs? |
| 21:05.24 | herlo | mindjuju_: etchys? |
| 21:10.38 | fungus | mindjuju_, yeah, exactly. |
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| 21:35.41 | carmony_ | darn WoW ruined Blizzard :P |
| 21:36.09 | carmony_ | they spent all their time working WoW the cash cow, delaying bunch of games |
| 21:36.55 | mindjuju_ | so i'm going to ask a question that i KNOW will cause fungus, herlo to say is prolly not good idea, but here goes |
| 21:37.27 | mindjuju_ | i need sudo to run a script, and when script runs, it runs right, ie, sudo ./myscript.sh |
| 21:37.33 | mindjuju_ | now i want to crontab that badboy |
| 21:37.53 | fungus | $PATH |
| 21:38.15 | mindjuju_ | adding it to path will cause it to run as sudo? |
| 21:38.20 | fungus | Scripts run via crontab have a different environment |
| 21:38.37 | mindjuju_ | oh |
| 21:38.40 | fungus | if you run it via crontab you don't need sudo |
| 21:38.45 | mindjuju_ | really? |
| 21:38.57 | mindjuju_ | cool |
| 21:39.00 | fungus | Just set the job in root's crontab |
| 21:39.04 | herlo | depending on which user you runas yes |
| 21:39.25 | herlo | /etc/cron.d or /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} |
| 21:39.28 | fungus | I thought you were going to say it doesn't work via crontab. Since that is very very common. :) |
| 21:39.47 | herlo | fungus: you thought I would say such a thing? :) |
| 21:40.05 | fungus | No, I thought mindjuju would say it |
| 21:40.20 | herlo | ahh :P |
| 21:40.30 | mindjuju_ | i put it in as crontab for the user i wanted to run the script |
| 21:40.32 | herlo | mindjuju_: easy peasy |
| 21:40.35 | mindjuju_ | but i guess that is wrong? |
| 21:40.38 | herlo | cd to where ./myscript.sh is valid |
| 21:40.42 | herlo | then run pwd |
| 21:40.44 | herlo | that's your path |
| 21:40.55 | herlo | however, I would put it in one of the directories noted in $PATH |
| 21:40.58 | herlo | so yo ucan say |
| 21:41.00 | herlo | echo $PATH |
| 21:41.04 | mindjuju_ | oh, so on that, it's for the dropbox.py script |
| 21:41.10 | herlo | I think this is what fungus was drivin gat |
| 21:41.14 | mindjuju_ | and as such, the script needs to be the user with the acct |
| 21:41.26 | mindjuju_ | in this case myacct needs to run the script.sh command |
| 21:41.46 | mindjuju_ | not root, else, dropbox.py will run the py script on the root dropbox daemon which doesn't exist |
| 21:41.53 | fungus | No, was just saying that any commands your script runs need to be in the current path, the crontab path is often different than your interactive login path. |
| 21:42.06 | herlo | mindjuju_: sure, so I would use su -c user '/path/to/myscript.sh' |
| 21:42.47 | herlo | fungus is correct as well |
| 21:43.20 | fungus | Now if your script takes care to manage it's own $PATH then you don't need to worry. Or do what herlo said. |
| 21:46.50 | herlo | fungus: have you encountered issues where /dev/loopX is still 'mounted' or 'in use' even though the directory / path it claims is mounted doesn't exist? |
| 21:48.01 | fungus | no, but I would see if either the loop device or the path it claims to be mounted at show up in lsof. |
| 21:48.17 | herlo | yeah, losetup gives me similar output |
| 21:48.41 | carmony_ | I got some chatty people right outside of my office. Thank goodness for earbuds & music. |
| 21:48.44 | fungus | or /proc/mounts |
| 21:48.54 | herlo | yeah |
| 21:48.56 | herlo | good idea |
| 21:48.58 | fungus | carmony_, welcome to office working. |
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| 21:49.26 | herlo | fungus: no dice, /proc/mounts reports the same as mount |
| 21:49.52 | fungus | doh, schedule maintenance for a reboot? :) |
| 21:50.16 | herlo | lol |
| 21:50.22 | herlo | this is my personal lappy. I can just reboot |
| 21:50.28 | herlo | I just didn't want to |
| 21:50.31 | fungus | lol |
| 21:50.44 | herlo | and I cleared it once before |
| 21:50.54 | herlo | but the same tactics are not working this time :/ |
| 21:53.12 | fungus | make the directory it's quasi mounted at. mount it, and unmount it? |
| 21:54.44 | herlo | hmm, maybe |
| 21:54.52 | herlo | Ima going to reboot shortly anyway |
| 21:55.02 | herlo | I've temporarily fixed it atm |
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| 22:22.59 | macnewbold | carmony_: how's the new gig? |
| 22:23.12 | carmony_ | macnewbold: overall, really good |
| 22:23.19 | carmony_ | getting used to this concept of a "commute" |
| 22:23.21 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:23.23 | macnewbold | no joke |
| 22:23.30 | macnewbold | your car will actually need oil changes now |
| 22:34.28 | john_anderson | anyone going to tek12? |
| 22:35.55 | john_anderson | well I know he's going :) |
| 22:37.07 | carmony_ | john_anderson: are you? |
| 22:37.13 | john_anderson | carmony_: yep |
| 22:38.37 | carmony_ | sweet! more uphpu-ers! |
| 22:38.49 | john_anderson | carmony_: who else is going? |
| 22:39.07 | carmony_ | I dunno, us two is who I know of so far |
| 22:39.11 | john_anderson | cool |
| 22:40.24 | macnewbold | well, gee, if we're getting our #uphpu delegation on, maybe i'll have to try to get in some talks next year and have work send me |
| 22:42.24 | john_anderson | ZendCon is in October :) |
| 22:43.51 | carmony_ | but I can't |
| 22:44.07 | carmony_ | nick carmony |
| 23:01.36 | macnewbold | ~nick carmony |
| 23:01.46 | carmony | ~lart macnewbold |
| 23:01.46 | ibot | beats the living hamstercrap out of macnewbold |
| 23:01.54 | carmony | :O |