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| 04:49.04 | raifbot | Noah needed two of ALMOST everything on the Arc; he only needed one Chuck Norris. |
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| 05:04.33 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink. |
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| 05:19.10 | utahcon | hmm |
| 05:19.14 | utahcon | wrong window |
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| 14:34.45 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 14:34.46 | raifbot | raises middle finger to wps. |
| 14:34.54 | TuxToaster | raifbot: that wasn't very nice |
| 14:35.46 | hhatfield | ~lart raifbot |
| 14:35.46 | ibot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays raifbot in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 14:35.56 | hhatfield | $defend yourself |
| 14:36.01 | hhatfield | ~defend yourself |
| 14:36.01 | ibot | ACTION jumps in front of yourself, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward yourself so that yourself may live on in peace and quiet |
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| 15:31.40 | mindjuju | too late, saw ya already |
| 15:33.50 | macnewbold | ~poke mindjuju's good eye with a stick |
| 15:33.51 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind mindjuju's good eye with a stick, pokes mindjuju's good eye with a stick repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:34.29 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 15:34.32 | mindjuju | thx bro |
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| 15:36.37 | carmony | hmmm, I got an ssh question |
| 15:36.47 | mindjuju | ssh -v |
| 15:36.51 | carmony | lol |
| 15:37.18 | macnewbold | ~roy carmony |
| 15:37.18 | ibot | carmony: Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 15:37.21 | carmony | how can I run a one-off command using the ssh command |
| 15:37.32 | macnewbold | ssh hostname command arg1 arg2 |
| 15:37.34 | mindjuju | oh that's awesome |
| 15:37.46 | carmony | but does ssh command exit after that? |
| 15:37.55 | macnewbold | yeah, when the command exists |
| 15:37.59 | carmony | k |
| 15:38.00 | macnewbold | ~moss mindjuju |
| 15:38.00 | ibot | mindjuju: Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 15:38.11 | mindjuju | classy |
| 15:38.13 | mindjuju | very classy |
| 15:38.13 | eggyknap | ~jen macnewbold |
| 15:38.21 | eggyknap | Oh well, can't win 'em all. |
| 15:38.22 | macnewbold | eggyknap: what would jen say? |
| 15:38.29 | macnewbold | ~jen |
| 15:38.29 | ibot | somebody said jen was the coolest person on earth (see: Spiritual) |
| 15:38.33 | eggyknap | I'm not sure yet :) |
| 15:38.39 | mindjuju | probably comment on her winning the employee of the month |
| 15:39.01 | mindjuju | or getting permission to handle the "internet" from the Elders of the Internet |
| 15:39.16 | eggyknap | I loved that one. |
| 15:39.23 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:39.57 | eggyknap | I figured it would have something to do with trying to get a date. |
| 15:40.14 | eggyknap | .oO("mindjuju: are you aware that you have s**t on your forehead?") |
| 15:40.57 | josephscott | carmony: for more ssh fun, see http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/clusterssh/index.php?title=Main_Page |
| 15:41.12 | mindjuju | oh man, i love that one |
| 15:41.59 | carmony | LOL |
| 15:50.57 | macnewbold | ~jen mindjuju |
| 15:50.57 | ibot | mindjuju: are you aware that you have something on your forehead? |
| 15:51.13 | mindjuju | ~jen carmony |
| 15:51.14 | ibot | carmony: are you aware that you have something on your forehead? |
| 15:51.21 | macnewbold | ~moss ibot |
| 15:51.21 | ibot | ibot: Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 15:51.47 | macnewbold | now we just need ~rmoss, ~rroy, and ~rjen and life will be complete |
| 15:51.58 | carmony | rmoss? |
| 15:52.53 | mindjuju | funny you say that, in a couple months we'll be out of contract, and stop all dishnetwork |
| 15:53.01 | mindjuju | we just can't justify the bill |
| 15:53.16 | mindjuju | plus, better things to do |
| 15:53.17 | carmony | tpb just has everything you need.... >.> |
| 15:53.26 | mindjuju | though i will miss Science channel |
| 15:53.40 | mindjuju | and History Channel before it became the Reality TV channel |
| 15:53.49 | carmony | mindjuju: lol, amen |
| 15:53.59 | mindjuju | remember when History Channel used to actually have shows on ... history? |
| 15:54.18 | influx | The Pre-Hitler Era? |
| 15:54.49 | mindjuju | ? |
| 15:56.10 | Monnok | tpb and me had a falling out |
| 15:56.25 | Monnok | went to demonoid as my main dealer |
| 15:56.58 | mindjuju | Monnok - why? |
| 15:57.01 | mindjuju | just curious |
| 15:57.34 | josephscott | tpb? |
| 15:57.40 | influx | The Pirate Bay |
| 15:57.41 | josephscott | $google tpb |
| 15:57.42 | raifbot | josephscott searching http://www.google.com/search?q=tpb -- http://thepiratebay.se/ -- http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/tpb/ -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPB |
| 15:57.42 | Monnok | for a while they had too many issues with their torrents and their login stuff never worked |
| 15:57.55 | mindjuju | ah |
| 15:58.22 | Monnok | i never had luck with saved searches when i was logged in |
| 15:58.28 | josephscott | ahhh, never been big into that, I generally try hard to find a way to pay for shows/movies |
| 15:58.58 | mindjuju | wasn't there an oatmeal on that? |
| 15:59.06 | Monnok | was there? |
| 15:59.27 | mindjuju | about guy trying to legit get a show, and he goes on itunes, not there, and hulu, not there |
| 15:59.29 | josephscott | yep |
| 15:59.34 | mindjuju | tries like 5 different avenues, and finally tpb |
| 15:59.52 | Monnok | demonoid's community feels better, with their reviews on files and how to get troubled ones to work etc |
| 15:59.57 | Monnok | oh yeah |
| 16:00.03 | Monnok | it was for the Game of Thrones |
| 16:00.13 | josephscott | having something be frustrating wasn't enough for me to skip on paying for it |
| 16:00.28 | mindjuju | yeah, that's it |
| 16:00.31 | josephscott | though I would really love to have a way to buy digital copies without DRM |
| 16:00.41 | josephscott | sad that the best option today is still DVDs |
| 16:01.08 | josephscott | at least those you can still handbrake to have DRM free digital copies |
| 16:01.09 | Monnok | and i also like demonoids search ability for quality levels(dvd-rip/full/cam[never DL cams]) |
| 16:01.33 | mindjuju | maybe i'm a little less globally focused than i thought, but this article raises 2 VERY important questions |
| 16:01.34 | mindjuju | http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75526.html |
| 16:01.40 | Monnok | yeah but you pay money to need to wait 10 minutes to watch your show.... |
| 16:01.48 | mindjuju | 1. What is this Internet Hall of Fame? |
| 16:02.01 | mindjuju | 2. Why is it in Switzerland ? it's ours! we invented it! |
| 16:02.07 | jsmith | Monnok: So saving you ten minutes makes it ethical? Just asking... |
| 16:02.10 | Monnok | between FBI warnings, the ads you are somewhat forced to watch |
| 16:02.20 | mindjuju | i HATE THAT STUFF |
| 16:02.26 | mindjuju | like 10 minutes and you can't skip it |
| 16:02.34 | Monnok | when all you want is the show |
| 16:02.40 | josephscott | another reason to handbrake it :-) |
| 16:02.46 | mindjuju | that's why i flex my consumer rights, backup my dvd and watch the backups |
| 16:02.51 | mindjuju | ^5 josephscott |
| 16:03.16 | Monnok | if i buy my car, i dont want to be advertised to everytime i start it up |
| 16:03.35 | josephscott | I'd rather not have to buy the physical media though |
| 16:03.37 | Monnok | i dont want to be told its illegal to run red lights every time |
| 16:03.37 | mindjuju | or have to worry about modifying it with after market parts |
| 16:03.48 | mindjuju | ala DRM, you can use this for this purpose only |
| 16:03.52 | josephscott | I'd be fine with just a H.264 encoded DRM free digital file |
| 16:03.53 | mindjuju | you can't use it on any other device |
| 16:03.58 | Monnok | if i could buy JUST the movie, like what torrents offer, id do it |
| 16:04.32 | josephscott | but I haven't found any place that offers that |
| 16:04.40 | josephscott | so until then I'll stick with buying DVDs |
| 16:04.45 | Monnok | as it stands, all i am honestly costing the companies is the $1 redbox rental |
| 16:05.20 | mindjuju | Monnok - did you see that article i posted to mgeary the other day about "Homeland Security" raiding a flea market for pirated materials? |
| 16:05.28 | josephscott | I don't think we want to go done the justification route of this conversation :-) |
| 16:05.29 | Monnok | no... link? |
| 16:05.35 | mindjuju | i'll find again |
| 16:05.42 | Monnok | tho i still pay for netflix that i hardly watch |
| 16:05.53 | Monnok | josephscott: duly noted |
| 16:06.27 | mindjuju | Monnok - mgeary - i'm glad to see that homeland security decided that a flea market was worthy of protecting from the vile of piracy - http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bs-md-raid-20120422,0,5167978.story |
| 16:06.28 | influx | Monnok: It took your comment to remind me that I'm still signed up for Netflix. |
| 16:07.12 | Monnok | $8/month isnt hard to swallow |
| 16:07.33 | Monnok | especially if it gives the kids something new to watch besides Aladdin over and over and over |
| 16:08.52 | carmony | the only time I ever use tpb is if 1) our DVR screwed up and botched the recording, or 2) it hasn't come out yet to America (i.e. some BBC shows) |
| 16:11.41 | carmony | on a side note, I've gotten the Rackspace Cloud API to let me deploy servers with key files installed on the server, so I can completely automate the deployment of a server with a single command |
| 16:12.00 | josephscott | what did you have to do before? |
| 16:12.17 | carmony | I'd manually ssh-copy-id for new servers with their root password |
| 16:13.06 | josephscott | root password? ick |
| 16:13.15 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:13.26 | carmony | much nicer to have my keys pre-installed on the machine |
| 16:14.03 | josephscott | ok, this is just nuts - http://www.imore.com/2012/04/25/wwdc-2012-sells-2-hours-1600-ticket-530am-pacific-time/ |
| 16:14.13 | josephscott | and I thought the google i/o stuff was crazy |
| 16:17.51 | carmony | crazy |
| 16:17.58 | carmony | I'd like to go to it sometime though |
| 16:18.03 | carmony | I know our iPhone dev is going |
| 16:21.48 | carmony | I stand corrected, he isn't going this year, just asked |
| 16:22.03 | carmony | it sold out before he got the email saying tickets had gone on sale |
| 16:23.18 | josephscott | at 5:30 in the freaking morning |
| 16:23.47 | fungus | I wonder what proportion of attendees are non-devs |
| 16:24.01 | carmony | probably decently high |
| 16:24.08 | carmony | though you have to have a paid Apple Dev account |
| 16:24.56 | fungus | Yeah, but I think there's a lot of users that did all that, just so they could go. |
| 16:25.07 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:25.23 | fungus | I know I would have. :) |
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| 16:40.29 | fungus | Lame! "Google Drive isn't currently available for the Linux operating system." |
| 16:40.38 | fungus | back to DropBox, nothing to see here. |
| 16:41.08 | carmony | seriously |
| 16:41.19 | herlo | fungus: I know, lame. |
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| 16:48.59 | josephscott | gdrive also doesn't actually sync your google docs files, it just sync references to them |
| 16:50.13 | fungus | that part doesn't bother me much. I already have access to my Google Docs everywhere I go. |
| 16:50.50 | josephscott | I was hoping for an easy way to have a backup of them |
| 16:51.42 | carmony | uggggg, I've enabled Google Drive in my Apps Domain... |
| 16:51.50 | carmony | and it says its not |
| 16:52.47 | tierra | I wouldn't expect gdrive in google apps for a while here |
| 16:53.13 | fungus | I got gdrive on my gapps account. Didn't have to enable anything. |
| 16:53.14 | tierra | it's not even anywhere on the calendar for google apps yet |
| 16:53.33 | fungus | just clicked notify me when it's ready yesterday. |
| 16:53.46 | josephscott | I used gdrive with my apps domain, worked right out of the box |
| 16:53.47 | fungus | Got the email today |
| 16:54.01 | influx | $8ball Backyard thinking after work? |
| 16:54.02 | raifbot | influx - My sources say no. |
| 16:54.02 | josephscott | what I really like is the bump to 10GB for gmail |
| 16:54.18 | josephscott | my usage went from 97% to 73% :-) |
| 16:54.24 | tierra | I'll have to give that a shot... but I'm guessing with no request, apps won't be pushed on to it for a while |
| 16:54.33 | influx | $8ball How about, whenever I feel like it. |
| 16:54.33 | raifbot | influx - It is decidedly so. |
| 16:55.08 | tierra | josephscott: I thought I had insane mailing list subscriptions.... I guess not |
| 16:55.39 | josephscott | I keep a fair bit of email, but not everything |
| 16:55.49 | tierra | my inbox has seen maybe 75 emails per day for the last 4-5 years... still only 20% used |
| 16:56.09 | carmony | see, its enabled: http://screencast.com/t/1SAbwwaIKB |
| 16:56.17 | josephscott | I imported something like a dozen years worth of email into my gmail account |
| 16:56.17 | tierra | (non-spam email btw) |
| 16:56.37 | carmony | but this is what I see: http://screencast.com/t/lbsS2phy9My3 |
| 16:57.16 | fungus | My personal is only 10% (808MB), but my work email is 24% (6.3GB) |
| 16:57.37 | fungus | carmony, just have to wait |
| 16:57.51 | fungus | Click the notify button and wait for the email |
| 17:04.06 | macnewbold | ~asplode bugs |
| 17:04.06 | ibot | bugs head asplode, k thx |
| 17:05.15 | tierra | fungus: where is that link? |
| 17:05.37 | tierra | I see all the same stuff carmony sees |
| 17:06.08 | fungus | just drive.google.com |
| 17:06.16 | fungus | upper right corner |
| 17:06.34 | tierra | nothing but a G+1 button |
| 17:06.36 | fungus | "Your google drive is not ready yet" [Notify me] |
| 17:06.46 | fungus | (that was from another google apps account. |
| 17:06.56 | tierra | "Google Drive is not yet enabled |
| 17:06.57 | tierra | for the Ibaku.net domain." |
| 17:07.02 | tierra | no link |
| 17:07.29 | tierra | maybe that was a time sensitive link |
| 17:07.29 | fungus | I would check your domain settings tab, to ensure that the new features are enabled automatically etc. |
| 17:08.42 | tierra | I do have "Automatic" New Services, but I also have "Schedule Release" instead of "Rapid Release", so maybe that's it... |
| 17:09.35 | jsmith | tierra: I set mine to "Rapid Release" and "Automatic new services", but still don't have it |
| 17:09.46 | tierra | yeah, did the same thing |
| 17:09.59 | jsmith | tierra: For my "administrator" account for the domain, it says "Your drive is not yet available" |
| 17:10.11 | jsmith | tierra: For a non-administrator, it says "It hasn't been enabled yet" |
| 17:11.12 | tierra | meh, whatever, I'll just go back to waiting... |
| 17:11.28 | jsmith | That's the conclusion I came to as well :-p |
| 17:11.59 | carmony | anyone here used backbone.js before? |
| 17:12.02 | tierra | http://whatsnew.googleapps.com/ <- typical Google Apps calendar |
| 17:18.05 | mindjuju | remember that part in the movie Star Trek where the USS Enterprises hides behind one of Saturn's moons and attacks him from there? apparently they caught it on a telescope - http://news.yahoo.com/mysterious-objects-punching-holes-weird-saturn-ring-111801087.html |
| 17:20.38 | mahelious | "Voyager found a bright ring, shepherded into a tight orbital corridor by two of Saturn's moons, Prometheus and Pandora" |
| 17:20.44 | mahelious | must mean V'Ger |
| 17:23.37 | mindjuju | well that's forward thinking - U of Florida can's whole CS program - http://news.yahoo.com/university-florida-cuts-computer-science-department-students-fight-161100232--finance.html |
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| 17:43.28 | fungus | mindjuju, that sounds crazy. But OTOH, if they are losing tons of money, what else is there to cut? |
| 17:43.50 | fungus | Can't cut sports, that is a profit center. |
| 17:46.34 | fungus | Can't raise tuition costs, it's already at an all-time high, and is extremely difficult for most students to deal with. |
| 18:02.11 | Monnok | ~Wednesday |
| 18:02.12 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 18:02.55 | influx | ~lart Monnok |
| 18:02.55 | ibot | stamps Monnok on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 18:02.59 | influx | You've broken the spell! |
| 18:03.04 | influx | It felt like Thursday. |
| 18:04.22 | Monnok | i guess i shoulda seen it coming |
| 18:06.29 | influx | :) |
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| 18:21.02 | mgeary | is anyone here aware of a local company that buys and sells used server equipment? |
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| 18:23.21 | jsmith | mgeary: Sure, you might try MAS in Midvale if they're still around, or there's another place down in Orem/Provo area, can't think of the name right now |
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| 18:24.14 | mgeary | not finding any MAS in Midvale. You're not thinking of EBC in Provo/Orem, are you? They closed down a while ago |
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| 18:28.18 | macnewbold | http://turntable.fm/4f10ac2b590ca243cd002102 |
| 18:34.42 | jsmith | mgeary: No, not EBC. MAS moved a couple of times, but they were always near the mall at 5600 South State. |
| 18:35.04 | jsmith | mgeary: The one down in Orem/Provo was on state street, on the west side of the road |
| 18:54.11 | ninnypants | I don't think EBC is in orem anymore |
| 18:56.59 | jsmith | I wasn't saying they were |
| 18:58.14 | ninnypants | ahh aparently I didn't read the back log well enough :) |
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| 19:14.42 | mgeary | jeeze, jsmith, get your facts straight before you mouth off |
| 19:18.18 | carmony | amen |
| 19:22.39 | josephscott | ~bring Fry's to Utah |
| 19:25.25 | Monnok | ~bestow Fry's to Utah |
| 19:25.27 | Monnok | aww |
| 19:26.04 | influx | ~Fry Utah |
| 19:26.04 | ibot | ACTION grabs Utah and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 19:26.13 | influx | Unexpected. |
| 19:29.58 | fungus | Could a Fry's survive in Utah? |
| 19:30.07 | fungus | Others like it have tried and failed. |
| 19:30.28 | josePHPagoda | depends, what does Fry's fry? |
| 19:30.51 | fungus | http://www.frys.com/ |
| 19:32.05 | herlo | fungus: at one point, Scott Lemon was bringing Fry's comment cards to the CTO Breakfast, and many user groups asking us all to fill out a request to have one in Utah |
| 19:32.47 | fungus | I would love it, but I doubt it could survive. Compare Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. |
| 19:33.10 | herlo | http://the.inevitable.org/anism/?p=3771 |
| 19:33.40 | josephscott | fungus: there has been something similar to Fry's in Utah before? |
| 19:34.07 | herlo | fungus: I disagree, I think it would survive. Consider Ikea, cabellas, crate and barrel as examples of big stores that are doing well here in Utah |
| 19:34.09 | josephscott | circuit city, compusa, best buy, none of those are even close to Fry's |
| 19:34.13 | herlo | It's probably more about placement. |
| 19:34.29 | josephscott | they should build the Fry's next to Ikea |
| 19:34.31 | herlo | josephscott: I concur. Fry's is so much more and a much better store than any of those. |
| 19:34.35 | herlo | josephscott: yep! |
| 19:34.51 | herlo | josephscott: or somewhere near Bangerter and I-15 for sure. |
| 19:35.04 | fungus | I wasn't classifying it as big stores. I meant electronics stores. the stores you mention fit very well with the Utah culture. |
| 19:35.18 | josephscott | there is that new giant sporting goods store going in at state and 11400 |
| 19:35.25 | herlo | scheels |
| 19:35.28 | josephscott | yep |
| 19:35.30 | fungus | josephscott, tell us about how Fry's is different from CC or CompUSA? |
| 19:35.34 | fungus | better? |
| 19:35.39 | fungus | never been there myself. |
| 19:36.10 | josephscott | thing radio shack on the scale of costco |
| 19:36.14 | herlo | fungus: Fry's is nothing like those shitty stores. While the staff at Fry's isn't always helpful, they are more likely to have the part you are needing than either of those stores. |
| 19:36.17 | carmony | thats a good way to describe it |
| 19:36.18 | herlo | josephscott: yes, I was just about ot say that |
| 19:36.22 | josephscott | not just computer parts, but electronics of all sorts |
| 19:36.32 | fungus | ooh, neat |
| 19:36.32 | herlo | you can get pretty much anything you need at a Fry's |
| 19:36.32 | josephscott | s/thing/think/ |
| 19:36.40 | herlo | and it's prices are usually the best around |
| 19:36.42 | josephscott | if it is electronic, Fry's carries |
| 19:36.50 | josephscott | just don't ask any of their employees for help |
| 19:36.58 | josephscott | they have a history of being cluelss |
| 19:37.00 | josephscott | clueless |
| 19:37.02 | fungus | lol |
| 19:37.04 | herlo | and they have tons of DVDs, games, usually a cafe in the middle of the store. |
| 19:37.09 | josephscott | and beware the white sticker of death |
| 19:37.19 | fungus | But that's ok, I just need a place to buy that stuff. |
| 19:37.19 | herlo | josephscott: the white sticker of death? |
| 19:37.39 | josephscott | when someone returns an item they put a white sticker on it and then put it back on the shelf |
| 19:37.46 | fungus | Now I get it online, try to luck out at a small shop, or hang my head and go to Best Buy. |
| 19:37.55 | josephscott | the white sticker is sign that the contents of the box likely don't work |
| 19:38.14 | herlo | oh, because it's been returned? |
| 19:38.21 | josephscott | yep |
| 19:38.32 | herlo | yeah, I see what you mean now. I've seen that many times. |
| 19:38.33 | josephscott | when I lived in Sacramento we had two Fry's in the area |
| 19:38.41 | herlo | I took my chances a few times. |
| 19:38.47 | herlo | worked out so far |
| 19:38.50 | mgeary | welp |
| 19:38.56 | mgeary | i guess the rain's down in Africa |
| 19:39.09 | herlo | fungus: we just need to take you on a trip down to Vegas :) |
| 19:39.37 | herlo | then you can get your first Fry's experience! :) |
| 19:39.55 | mahelious | the one precedent i see is Universal Electronics, which ended up being shucked and a Costco moved in to it's old husk. |
| 19:40.11 | josephscott | used to be that we used to stop by Fry's when ever we were in the Bay Area |
| 19:40.34 | herlo | mahelious: yes, I can see that, it wasn't called universal electronics though. It was something like Electronic Universe |
| 19:40.42 | fungus | mahelious, yeah, that was just another example of big electronics store that failed. |
| 19:41.01 | herlo | Incredible Universe |
| 19:41.35 | herlo | haha, some of those stores turned into Fry's -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incredible_Universe |
| 19:41.40 | mahelious | ~herlo++ |
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| 19:41.50 | herlo | The Fry's stores in Tempe, Arizona; Wilsonville, Oregon; Sacramento and San Diego, California; Fishers, Indiana, Dallas (Garland), and Arlington, Texas are all former Incredible Universe stores. |
| 19:42.00 | herlo | too bad they didn't do that in Utah. |
| 19:42.34 | fungus | I bought my first hard drive at IU. |
| 19:42.38 | mahelious | pretty sure the Sunflower Market in Orem used to be one of those too. |
| 19:42.39 | fungus | 80MB |
| 19:43.20 | herlo | yeah, they were a pretty cool store. I was not quite into computers as much as I am now when they closed down. |
| 19:43.26 | mahelious | fungus: thats huge! You could install windows 3.1 and dark forces on that beast! |
| 19:43.35 | fungus | hehe, yup |
| 19:43.41 | fungus | Sad part was trying to back it up thouhg |
| 19:43.57 | fungus | Had to buy a ton of floppies and it took forever |
| 19:43.58 | herlo | mahelious: no, it was a Circuit City |
| 19:44.11 | herlo | I lived there when it was a CC |
| 19:44.51 | mahelious | circuit city was on the other side of the street, next to outback. at least back to '93 |
| 19:45.29 | mahelious | err, no that was comp usa. circuit city was ALL the way at the other side of the street, kiddie corner to krispy kreme |
| 19:45.31 | herlo | mahelious: actually, it was down there by Honey Ham |
| 19:45.38 | mahelious | right. |
| 19:46.24 | herlo | hmm, I swear it was a CC up next to Dickey's too. Weird they'd be close together like that. Maybe the CC by Honey Ham closed and that one opened up. I remember it being that though... |
| 19:49.38 | fungus | mahelious, are you talking about Ultimate Electronics? |
| 19:50.48 | mahelious | thats the one. |
| 19:51.26 | mahelious | hm. always thought the one in sandy and orem were the same company. guess not. |
| 19:52.37 | herlo | ahh, yes |
| 19:52.46 | herlo | Ultimate Electronics, I was wrong! |
| 19:53.09 | herlo | mahelious: I think that's the one you may have been referring to from the beginning :) |
| 19:53.48 | mahelious | orem got glutted. UE, compusa and circuit city all there on university parkway. small wonder they starved each other to death. |
| 19:54.17 | herlo | heh |
| 19:54.41 | herlo | people in Utah county are cheap too. They won't spend more on stuff at those stores when EBC computers was right there. I don't really blame them though. |
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| 20:08.35 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 20:24.13 | wps | I have four new positions open: |
| 20:24.19 | wps | (1) project manager / product owner |
| 20:24.28 | wps | (3) quality assurance / test engineers |
| 20:24.34 | wps | let me know if you know of any good candidates |
| 20:24.48 | wps | these are awesome positions |
| 20:24.51 | wps | you get to work with macnewbold |
| 20:31.01 | carmony | wps: do you have a job listing for the qa guys? |
| 20:31.08 | wps | not yet |
| 20:31.08 | wps | sorry |
| 20:31.11 | carmony | np |
| 20:31.11 | wps | just got them approved |
| 20:31.37 | carmony | I have a brother so is really good with automation/critical thinking stuff and is tired of his job at HAFB |
| 20:32.14 | jsmith | <plug type="shameless">I have two openings for Wordpress developers as well</plug> |
| 20:33.57 | SunSparc_ | ~rlart |
| 20:33.57 | ibot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Lone_Wanderer |
| 20:34.13 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:34.13 | raifbot | puts uxp into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of uxp's hair off. |
| 20:34.21 | TuxToaster | ouch |
| 20:35.00 | TuxToaster | jsmith: plug type does not match context |
| 20:35.00 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 20:35.04 | ninnypants | jsmith: still no luck filling those? I figured you'd be able to find someone pretty quick |
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| 20:35.35 | carmony | wps: I'm assuming you need non-telecommuters, right? |
| 20:35.40 | carmony | for the qa |
| 20:36.51 | SunSparc | wps: Are they all full-time salary on-site? |
| 20:37.00 | wps | yes, full-time, on-site |
| 20:37.18 | jsmith | ninnypants: So far, no luck |
| 20:37.29 | SunSparc | jsmith: full-time, salary, on-site? |
| 20:38.15 | jsmith | SunSparc: Correct. Full-time, salary + awesome benefits, on-site in south Provo |
| 20:38.43 | SunSparc | Ok. I am looking for off-site contracting work. |
| 20:39.37 | SunSparc | I did not realize they were down there either. |
| 20:39.39 | jsmith | ninnypants: Send me a resume anyway, and I'll see what others think about contract work |
| 20:39.43 | jsmith | SunSparc: Oh? |
| 20:39.48 | carmony | SunSparc: you're looking for a new gig? |
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| 20:40.03 | ninnypants | jsmith: I think you mean SunSparc ;) |
| 20:40.03 | SunSparc | jsmith: Yes. :) |
| 20:40.17 | jsmith | Yeah, sorry -- mixing my nicks today |
| 20:40.31 | SunSparc | carmony: Just a side gig. My tech startup has not hit critical mass yet. |
| 20:40.37 | carmony | ahh |
| 20:40.38 | carmony | yeah |
| 20:40.41 | carmony | I know how that is |
| 20:40.44 | SunSparc | jsmith: What is the position? |
| 20:41.05 | jsmith | SunSparc: Wordpress developer |
| 20:41.16 | SunSparc | carmony: Yeah, been bootstrapping and funds are getting low. Need to jump back into the workforce for a while. |
| 20:41.17 | jsmith | SunSparc: (at least initially...) |
| 20:41.42 | SunSparc | jsmith: Wordpress for Bluehost? |
| 20:41.51 | jsmith | SunSparc: Yes. |
| 20:42.01 | SunSparc | Interesting |
| 20:42.30 | SunSparc | What kind of developing? PHP I assume, and plugins or core? |
| 20:42.40 | jsmith | PHP, mostly in core |
| 20:47.42 | ninnypants | SunSparc: how is memory ties coming anyway? Getting a good number of signups at least? |
| 20:47.44 | carmony | we should have a quartly hack-a-thon and also invite companies looking to hire to come |
| 20:48.06 | SunSparc | carmony: That could be cool. |
| 20:48.23 | SunSparc | ninnypants: It is coming along. Not as many signups as we had hoped, yet. |
| 20:48.27 | ninnypants | UTOS usually has a quarterly hack day |
| 20:49.48 | SunSparc | ninnypants: The product is perfectly functional as an online journal currently. |
| 20:50.50 | herlo | ninnypants: we need to have another one of those |
| 20:51.08 | SunSparc | Though we need a good graphic designer/ux guy to add some better look and feel to it. Currently it is just functional. |
| 20:51.14 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah been a little while since the last one |
| 20:51.16 | herlo | ninnypants: in fact, I was thinkin of putting together a coderdojo |
| 20:51.18 | herlo | http://coderdojo.com/ |
| 20:51.40 | ninnypants | herlo: I've wanted to do that too |
| 20:51.49 | herlo | just haven't figgered out a place for it yet. Maybe at Thanksgiving point or something. |
| 20:52.06 | herlo | wonder if C7DC would let us use their space once a month |
| 20:52.11 | herlo | or once a quarter |
| 20:52.14 | ninnypants | herlo: I've been wanting to get an office space and just let people come and hack |
| 20:52.19 | herlo | on a saturday. |
| 20:52.33 | ninnypants | figured part of it could be a learning area your kids or something |
| 20:52.34 | influx | ninnypants: Whereabouts? |
| 20:52.38 | herlo | ninnypants: there's some cheap office space in Murray. Shalkie and I have been discussing it for the better part of a year. |
| 20:52.56 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 20:52.57 | raifbot | In fine print on the last page of the Guinness Book of World Records it notes that all world records are held by Chuck Norris, and those listed in the book are simply the closest anyone else has ever gotten. |
| 20:53.38 | ninnypants | influx: no idea maybe Thanksgiving Point but that might be too expensive |
| 20:54.01 | herlo | ninnypants: let's approach C7DC |
| 20:54.01 | TuxToaster | too bad that Guinness doesn't actually include that in a book just for fun |
| 20:54.04 | ninnypants | there are some small places in provo as well |
| 20:54.16 | herlo | that's way too far south for those in SLC to attend |
| 20:54.39 | herlo | we could do one in each valley each month though. it's something I've tried before with limited success |
| 20:54.44 | ninnypants | herlo: I agree that's why I haven't gone with anything there |
| 20:54.58 | TuxToaster | funny thing is you end up with it both ways |
| 20:55.08 | ninnypants | herlo: you mean the earlier hackUTOS stuff? |
| 20:55.08 | herlo | TuxToaster: that's why the point is the ideal place |
| 20:55.23 | TuxToaster | like Bluffdale, Draper, even Thanksgiving Point you have people complain that it's too far north or south |
| 20:55.28 | herlo | ninnypants: yeah, we did it once in each of the valleys, plus we've done geek lunch that way too |
| 20:55.41 | herlo | TuxToaster: sure, but those people are just whiners |
| 20:55.48 | herlo | and they weren't going to make the trek anyway |
| 20:55.53 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:56.14 | herlo | I lived in Murray and would regularly drive to provo / orem for PLUG |
| 20:57.03 | herlo | occasionally to BYU for BYUUUG |
| 20:57.07 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:57.16 | TuxToaster | UUUUG |
| 20:57.25 | TuxToaster | it's like... BY-UGH |
| 20:57.34 | herlo | that's why I call it BYU3G |
| 20:59.09 | carmony | lol, I don't know what you guys are all talking about far to drive... |
| 21:01.29 | herlo | carmony: yes, Mr. Ogden |
| 21:02.26 | herlo | carmony: I have to say, you are a good example of a non-whiner. You come when you can, rarely complain about the trek it takes to get there, and are always happy with being able to attend. I think it comes down ot the fact that you see the potential value of LUGs overall. |
| 21:02.52 | carmony | Oh, I can attribute a lot of my success in my career to LUGs |
| 21:03.00 | herlo | TuxToaster: I was going to say though, most of the whining has stopped as of late. Specifically due to the fact that G+ hangouts and such. |
| 21:03.12 | herlo | carmony: indeed. I am in the exact same boat. |
| 21:03.19 | herlo | TuxToaster: a new thing I saw the other day: http://mashable.com/2011/07/30/youtube-live-google-plus/ |
| 21:03.20 | TuxToaster | herlo: true true |
| 21:03.23 | carmony | my thing is I have to pick just one or so to go to a month right now with my distance |
| 21:03.32 | herlo | so now, the limit isn't 10, it's as many as can stream from youtube |
| 21:03.33 | carmony | if I lived close by I could probably do 1-2 more |
| 21:03.44 | herlo | carmony: OALUG is close to you |
| 21:03.55 | TuxToaster | I haven't seen it happen with UPHPU as much really, but I've noted other lists where people complain about the distance. But yeah, definitely seems to have died down a bit |
| 21:03.59 | herlo | only 15 minutes or so, just happened yesterday. Was a very good presentation. |
| 21:04.08 | carmony | lol, I feel bad, it always seems like it happens on bad days for me |
| 21:04.10 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: *cough* OALUG *cough* |
| 21:04.16 | herlo | TuxToaster: oh, there's been some complaints on UPHPU, but now it's a bit older. |
| 21:04.32 | herlo | and people now aren't as bothered by the distance, or just don't attend. |
| 21:05.11 | TuxToaster | yup. |
| 21:06.08 | TuxToaster | I used to be amazed at people that worked at my wife's job near 35th south and Bangerter, because they wouldn't go to Jordan Landing on 78th south because it was "too far" |
| 21:11.55 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: Okay, thats it... what day is OALUG on? 4th Tuesday of the month? |
| 21:12.19 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: currently last tuesday of the month |
| 21:12.29 | carmony | ok |
| 21:12.38 | josephscott | just in time for carmony to move further away from Ogden :-) |
| 21:13.12 | DexterTheDragon | as long as he moves to layton he'll be good |
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| 21:14.28 | carmony | 7pm? |
| 21:14.38 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: yeep |
| 21:14.51 | carmony | k, I've added to my google calendar |
| 21:17.51 | herlo | carmony: utah tech events |
| 21:17.55 | herlo | calendar |
| 21:27.22 | TuxToaster | $lart drowsiness |
| 21:27.22 | raifbot | executes killall -TERM drowsiness. |
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| 21:44.32 | josephscott | anyone have strong feelings about a WCSLC on September 22 vs. September 29? |
| 21:45.50 | jsmith | josephscott: 29th, please :-p |
| 21:46.03 | jsmith | josephscott: Seriously though, I'm looking at the calendar |
| 21:46.22 | josephscott | any reason? I'm leaning towards the 22nd, though that day is a bit harder for me |
| 21:46.58 | jsmith | josephscott: 22nd actually works better -- doesn't conflict with Ohio Linux Fest |
| 21:47.29 | josephscott | :-) |
| 21:47.36 | jsmith | josephscott: When you've got the date finalized, let me know and I'll add it to my calendar |
| 21:47.37 | tierra | mmm.... 12.04 LTS should be tomorrow here |
| 21:47.46 | josephscott | jsmith: ok |
| 21:51.38 | mahelious | tierra: they'll have finally reached Z by the time support runs out for pangolin. |
| 21:57.55 | carmony | josephscott: 22nd likely for me, since it is further away from Joanna's due date |
| 21:58.23 | josephscott | important consideration |
| 21:58.45 | josephscott | funny how everything on the calendar suddenly revolves around that one day :-) |
| 21:58.56 | carmony | haha, yeah |
| 22:01.06 | fungus | lol, I always giggle at the command-not-found trigger on Ubuntu. |
| 22:01.28 | fungus | When I type the F word it suggests "suck". |
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| 22:01.58 | fungus | I think to myself, heh, sure that works too. ;) |
| 22:02.29 | herlo | fiddlesticks? |
| 22:02.39 | herlo | that's the only 'f' word I know that is insulting. |
| 22:02.40 | herlo | :) |
| 22:02.53 | fungus | lol |
| 22:03.49 | herlo | fungus: did you ever see that sitcom (not really) about the king and queen in the 90s. I'm trying to remember the name. Anyway, they had kids and that was the swear they were so angry at their childern for saying. |
| 22:04.56 | fungus | heh, no, I don't remember anything like that. |
| 22:08.02 | TuxToaster | fungus: do you often type that into the terminal? |
| 22:09.52 | fungus | Frequently |
| 22:10.05 | ebertx | who doesn't? |
| 22:10.11 | fungus | along with many other words that don't belong here. |
| 22:10.28 | peno | it's a word i frequently use when I have do do anything with the opensuse servers I inherited. |
| 22:10.44 | TuxToaster | mostly because my luck, it'd end up in the bash history and would get ran again later |
| 22:10.45 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 22:10.55 | fungus | peno, lol. I wouldn't blame you at all for that. |
| 22:11.24 | peno | fungus: mgmt doesn't seem to keen on letting me replace them, either. |
| 22:11.32 | peno | it makes me a sad panda |
| 22:12.08 | fungus | hehe, understood. I still have 4 SLES 10 servers i've been trying to get rid of for years. |
| 22:12.24 | herlo | fungus: just pull the plugs and say they 'failed' |
| 22:12.28 | herlo | :P |
| 22:12.31 | peno | +1 |
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| 22:13.34 | josephscott | one good hit with a sledge hammer should do the trick |
| 22:13.44 | fungus | lol, they are virtual |
| 22:13.56 | josephscott | they are running on hardware some where |
| 22:14.01 | macnewbold | ~roy herlo |
| 22:14.01 | ibot | herlo: Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 22:14.03 | ebertx | try a virtual sledge hammer |
| 22:14.11 | macnewbold | ~jen SLES |
| 22:14.11 | ibot | SLES: are you aware that you have something on your forehead? |
| 22:14.14 | fungus | Yeah, but I don't want to hurt the hardware. I love that. |
| 22:14.19 | herlo | macnewbold: several times :) |
| 22:14.33 | herlo | fungus: hard drives can be replaced! |
| 22:15.03 | peno | it's not the hardwares fault they have a poor distro. |
| 22:15.12 | herlo | lol |
| 22:15.12 | fungus | Heh. I might have considered it, but in the past 3 months, our web devs are actually making progress on deprecating it. |
| 22:16.58 | fungus | I try every major version of suse, and everytime I don't last more than an hour. |
| 22:17.16 | josephscott | ~ubuntu++ |
| 22:17.32 | fungus | Anytime I have to launch yast, it kills a kitten. |
| 22:18.47 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:19.12 | peno | yast makes the baby jesus cry |
| 22:19.22 | josephscott | ~save the kittens |
| 22:19.22 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves the kittens from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 22:19.26 | TuxToaster | I used to like YaST |
| 22:19.55 | TuxToaster | mostly because I was a fan of ncurses interfaces and they did a decent job with that. |
| 22:20.10 | TuxToaster | but, that was like 10 years ago. no idea what it's like today |
| 22:20.42 | peno | it's a steaming pile of poop |
| 22:20.55 | TuxToaster | although, personally I feel the same way about yum and killing kittens. :-) |
| 22:21.07 | TuxToaster | I've been known to alias yuck='yum' |
| 22:35.07 | macnewbold | aptitude seemed pretty good to me |
| 22:35.21 | macnewbold | i've used yum enough to know that it isn't awesome, but better than RPM |
| 22:35.33 | wps | amen to that |
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| 22:47.58 | herlo | mindjuju_: you around? |
| 22:48.05 | mindjuju_ | no |
| 22:48.10 | herlo | lol |
| 22:48.12 | mindjuju_ | :) |
| 22:49.26 | mindjuju_ | man, i've got to say, unequivocally, the fit is hitting the shan so hard, it's got to be the biggest storm of all time |
| 22:49.41 | wps | what's a shan? |
| 22:50.09 | wps | oh… new to me |
| 22:50.09 | wps | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shan |
| 22:51.10 | fungus | wps, this is a shan |
| 22:51.12 | fungus | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IKOjQAuWHWU/Txx0ZNiw8DI/AAAAAAAACa4/rlQEwSPm8oU/s1600/small-fan.jpg |
| 22:51.29 | wps | ah |
| 22:51.36 | wps | small + fan = shan? |
| 22:51.44 | fungus | and you don't want to see what fit looks like |
| 22:51.51 | wps | :) |
| 22:51.53 | fungus | and when they come together, it's not pretty |
| 22:52.17 | wps | actually, according to UD, I think I'd like to see some fit |
| 22:52.17 | wps | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fit |
| 22:52.43 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:06.40 | macnewbold | isn't fit just short for fitty? |
| 23:18.16 | mindjuju_ | wps, actually the fit hitting the shan is a transposition of characters |
| 23:18.29 | mindjuju_ | for a somewhat popular idiom involving curse words |
| 23:19.12 | mindjuju_ | move sh from shan over to f of fit and move f of fit to sh of shan |
| 23:19.19 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 23:30.54 | mgeary | it's called a spoonerism |
| 23:31.22 | mgeary | named after William Spooner |
| 23:31.46 | ebertx | inventor of the spoon |
| 23:34.04 | mgeary | uh. no. you may be thinking of John Crapper |
| 23:34.39 | mgeary | but his invention wasn't the spoon, either |
| 23:35.33 | ebertx | No I think he invented the spoon. And when you "spoonerize" your soup, you're eating it with a spoon. |
| 23:35.53 | ebertx | That's what I got from the public education system, anyway. |
| 23:35.54 | ebertx | :) |
| 23:48.33 | carmony | mindjuju_: is there a uphpu coupon for UTOSC? |
| 23:49.24 | mindjuju_ | UPHPU |
| 23:49.33 | carmony | is it half off? |
| 23:49.37 | mindjuju_ | half |
| 23:49.40 | carmony | k |
| 23:49.45 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
