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| 00:55.51 | supernovia | $8ball do I need a kick in the pants? |
| 00:55.52 | raifbot | supernovia - Very doubtful. |
| 00:56.34 | supernovia | $8ball Do I need a jog around the neighborhood? |
| 00:56.34 | raifbot | supernovia - Ask again later. |
| 00:56.37 | supernovia | alright. |
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| 05:32.43 | mindjuju | looks like jnbek is flooding the chan |
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| 05:55.59 | SunSparc | ~lart jnbek |
| 05:55.59 | ibot | flings poo at jnbek |
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| 05:57.31 | SunSparc | Perhaps jnbek needs to be added to the ban list until he can resolve his flood issues. |
| 05:58.08 | SunSparc | mindjuju: I have come to the conclusion that a minecraft server is much more difficult to maintain with mod, unless users are willing to not upgrade their clients with each new release. |
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| 06:03.19 | SunSparc | carmony, mindjuju, fungus, wps: Would one of you add jnbek to the ban list until he fixes his flood issues? |
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| 07:35.48 | SunSparc | He doesn't stay long enough to kick him. :) |
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| 07:40.51 | SunSparc | Doesn't even stay long enough for me to LART him. |
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| 07:43.36 | ibot | ACTION opens the hood of the flood , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
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| 14:55.04 | jsmith | Wow, two rlarts in a row |
| 14:55.11 | jsmith | (and my new laptop just showed up -- broken) |
| 14:55.16 | jsmith | It's one of those days... |
| 14:55.52 | josePHPagoda | jsmith: i'm sorry |
| 14:56.32 | hhatfield | ~console jsmith |
| 14:56.32 | ibot | ACTION gives jsmith the consolation moose |
| 14:56.42 | jsmith | Ooh, a moose! |
| 14:56.42 | hhatfield | ~really ? |
| 14:56.43 | ibot | REALLY! |
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| 15:48.53 | hhatfield | clintberry: did you get those slides posted last night? |
| 15:49.10 | clintberry | I sure didn't. let me get them up right now. |
| 15:49.28 | hhatfield | ~thank clintberry |
| 15:49.28 | ibot | hhatfield: no problem |
| 15:52.45 | clintberry | hhatfield: Here they are... unfortunately the slides don't have examples. I am sorry about that. But there are plenty on the internet. The concepts are fairly simple: http://clintberry.com/slides/phing/ |
| 15:53.07 | herlo | let's talk about robots.txt |
| 15:53.41 | hhatfield | the humans are dead |
| 15:53.49 | hhatfield | clintberry: thx |
| 15:53.54 | herlo | I'd like to limit access to the main site for robots.txt. In other words, I'd like to allow all bots to index the main page, but not really elsewhere |
| 15:54.08 | herlo | hhatfield: thanks for the info, I'll jump from the 11th floor now |
| 15:54.35 | hhatfield | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64 |
| 15:54.50 | herlo | um, no |
| 15:55.04 | hhatfield | um, why? |
| 15:55.09 | carmony | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFxVB4JFpQ |
| 15:55.33 | carmony | LOL |
| 15:55.49 | carmony | hmm |
| 15:55.49 | hhatfield | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43427/how-to-set-up-a-robot-txt-which-only-allows-the-default-page-of-a-site |
| 15:56.00 | herlo | hhatfield: you are re-hired! |
| 15:56.05 | carmony | doh! |
| 15:56.38 | herlo | carmony: alright, you can grovel and get your old job back cleaning dirty toilets |
| 15:56.48 | hhatfield | now watch my youtube link |
| 15:56.56 | herlo | no |
| 15:57.08 | carmony | oh come on, Flight of the Concords... |
| 15:57.18 | hhatfield | binary solo |
| 15:57.23 | herlo | I've seen it |
| 15:57.32 | herlo | and it's Conchords |
| 15:57.42 | herlo | ^^ carmony, get it right! :) |
| 15:58.51 | herlo | lol |
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| 16:14.13 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:14.14 | raifbot | takes josephscott to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 16:14.24 | josephscott | yikes |
| 16:14.34 | TuxToaster | seems like that should be the other way around |
| 16:14.51 | hhatfield | takes the vet to josephscott? |
| 16:15.08 | josephscott | $lart the vet |
| 16:15.08 | raifbot | takes the vet to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 16:15.12 | josephscott | haha! |
| 16:15.16 | TuxToaster | hhatfield: lol. I was thinking josephscott taking raifbot to the vet |
| 16:15.19 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 16:15.20 | josephscott | $8ball you have a thing for "the vet" today? |
| 16:15.21 | raifbot | josephscott - Don't count on it. |
| 16:21.18 | josephscott | may as well get it out of system now - http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ |
| 16:21.35 | hhatfield | that was such a bad article |
| 16:21.40 | josephscott | not a very good post, but a reasonable list of some of the problems with PHP |
| 16:22.02 | hhatfield | I just don't understand why people put so much time into such hateful posts |
| 16:22.08 | josephscott | I think the author is either confused or just looking for a way to get links :-) |
| 16:22.40 | TuxToaster | a lot of devs obsess over what is wrong with other languages |
| 16:22.42 | hhatfield | the problem I had with it was that he just wanted to rant. He didn't want any comments on it |
| 16:22.57 | TuxToaster | usually the same devs obsess how their language of choice can do anything better than any other |
| 16:22.58 | hhatfield | that's one of those posts that you write and then trash |
| 16:23.22 | hhatfield | I've programmed in enough languages to know that most of them will allow me to solve the problem at hand |
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| 16:23.57 | josephscott | yeah, the post contradicts itself in various places as well, which makes it very strange to read |
| 16:23.59 | hhatfield | some will let me solve it more elegantly, but at the end of the day, solved == solved |
| 16:24.09 | hhatfield | or maybe solved eq solved |
| 16:24.11 | josephscott | or solved === solved ;-) |
| 16:24.24 | hhatfield | no… they're different types of solved |
| 16:24.40 | josephscott | I think I can complain plenty about every language I've ever used to a significant degree |
| 16:24.45 | josephscott | haha |
| 16:28.51 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 16:28.51 | raifbot | In museums, Chuck Norris is allowed to touch the artifacts. |
| 16:32.34 | fungus | josephscott, that author had a lot of biases un-supported ranting in there, but there are many smaller points that are accurate and should at least be considered. |
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| 16:32.50 | fungus | It's too bad he littered the article with garbage to make it hard to get through. |
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| 16:32.55 | josephscott | I agree |
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| 16:33.04 | hhatfield | fungus: most of the points are vaild |
| 16:33.10 | josephscott | I think there are many good points, but the post on the whole is not great |
| 16:33.17 | fungus | Yup |
| 16:33.28 | josephscott | and some of the post contradicts itself, making it even more confusing :-) |
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| 16:33.58 | fungus | It was hard to read for sure. |
| 16:36.13 | fungus | Though considering his "stance" (predictable,consistent,concise,reliable,debuggable), his choice of Python as his language is probably the best fit. |
| 16:37.37 | hhatfield | the difference is that Python was designed, from the beginning, to be a language. PHP was designed, from the beginning, to accomplish a specific task. |
| 16:37.49 | fungus | exactly. |
| 16:37.52 | hhatfield | not taking that into serious account invalidates most of his argument for me |
| 16:38.10 | josephscott | fungus: as long as he only used one OS to run his python code, that would be true |
| 16:38.22 | fungus | Python's vision is very specific and controlled quite tightly to adhere to similar principles as his goals. |
| 16:38.42 | josephscott | yep, it did that much better than PHP in most cases |
| 16:39.06 | fungus | PHP just has different principles that don't match his goals. They match other peoples goals. |
| 16:40.26 | josephscott | I should say in nearly all cases :-) |
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| 16:57.59 | TuxToaster | "And I have never met a PHP developer who can do the same with PHP. But I’ve bumped into plenty who are quick to apologize for anything and everything PHP does. That mindset is terrifying." <--- apparently, he hasn't met many PHP developers, then. |
| 17:02.08 | jsmith | Haters gonna hate... |
| 17:02.19 | jsmith | In the meantime, let's see how much work actually does get done in PHP :-p |
| 17:02.30 | jsmith | It may not be perfect, but it sure seems to be awfully useful :-p |
| 17:03.01 | tierra | at least it's not Perl |
| 17:03.10 | tierra | ;) |
| 17:03.26 | josephscott | PHP is the new Perl ;-) |
| 17:03.36 | josePHPagoda | does that mean |
| 17:03.39 | josePHPagoda | Perl is the old Perl? |
| 17:03.48 | jsmith | josePHPagoda: Something like that :-p |
| 17:03.49 | beandog | yes |
| 17:03.54 | influx | PHP is NewCoke. |
| 17:04.55 | beandog | lol |
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| 17:12.41 | hhatfield | ~lart New Coke |
| 17:12.41 | ibot | installs a bad bootloader on New Coke and turns New Coke into a brick |
| 17:12.53 | beandog | ~new coke |
| 17:12.53 | ibot | botAbusers<Loser *>.push_back(new coke); |
| 17:13.04 | beandog | whut |
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| 17:19.46 | fungus | ~new beandog |
| 17:19.46 | ibot | botAbusers<Loser *>.push_back(new beandog); |
| 17:19.57 | fungus | ~old beandog |
| 17:22.12 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:24.10 | beandog | ~fail |
| 17:24.11 | ibot | FAIL. |
| 17:24.15 | beandog | ~fail ibot |
| 17:24.15 | ibot | ibot: FAIL! |
| 17:24.21 | beandog | ~win ibot |
| 17:24.21 | ibot | Congratulations, ibot! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 17:33.11 | TuxToaster | $lart beandog |
| 17:33.11 | raifbot | strangles beandog with a 9-pole serial cable. |
| 17:33.30 | beandog | :( |
| 17:33.41 | beandog | ~forgive TuxToaster |
| 17:33.41 | ibot | Remember, it is better to forgive TuxToaster than to receive. |
| 17:33.55 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 17:34.06 | TuxToaster | ~lart ibot |
| 17:34.06 | ibot | lowers tuxtoaster's priority |
| 17:34.10 | TuxToaster | d'oh |
| 17:34.17 | TuxToaster | ~lart himself |
| 17:34.17 | ibot | tries to shut himself up |
| 17:34.24 | TuxToaster | ibot: good luck with that |
| 17:34.24 | ibot | Good luck with that, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 17:34.34 | herlo | ~lart TuxToaster |
| 17:34.34 | ibot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses TuxToaster's head to break the homerun record |
| 17:34.44 | TuxToaster | herlo: not so much : |
| 17:34.46 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 17:34.52 | herlo | well, I tried |
| 17:34.56 | herlo | ~shutup TuxToaster |
| 17:35.02 | herlo | ~quiet TuxToaster |
| 17:35.07 | herlo | ~kill TuxToaster |
| 17:35.08 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited fluxproton gun at TuxToaster |
| 17:35.10 | TuxToaster | ~launch herlo |
| 17:35.10 | ibot | ACTION straps herlo to an ACME rocket, lights the fuse and ducks behind a rock |
| 17:35.19 | herlo | ~whale TuxToaster |
| 17:35.24 | herlo | ~whalepoo TuxToaster |
| 17:35.28 | herlo | ~whalepoop TuxToaster |
| 17:35.29 | ibot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at TuxToaster |
| 17:35.35 | herlo | ~hugh TuxToaster |
| 17:35.35 | ibot | ACTION watches Hugh, the freakishly huge killer whale, body slam TuxToaster |
| 17:35.35 | peno | ~donut herlo |
| 17:35.43 | herlo | peno: ooh, that sounds good! |
| 17:35.53 | TuxToaster | mmm.... donuts |
| 17:36.06 | herlo | exactly! |
| 17:36.06 | TuxToaster | $lart herlo |
| 17:36.06 | raifbot | slams herlo against a large cement Tux. |
| 17:36.09 | peno | herlo: breakfast of champions |
| 17:36.19 | herlo | peno: for lunch today |
| 17:36.22 | herlo | :P |
| 17:36.29 | TuxToaster | would have been awesome if that lart had been the Krispy Kreme lart |
| 17:36.35 | herlo | mebe |
| 17:36.36 | peno | same diff. :) |
| 17:36.45 | TuxToaster | ~give herlo a box of Krispy Kremes |
| 17:36.45 | ibot | ACTION gives a box of Krispy Kremes to herlo |
| 17:36.47 | herlo | peno: well, other than the hour |
| 17:37.07 | peno | herlo: it's breakfast time in hawaii. :) |
| 17:37.17 | TuxToaster | carmony_: what distro do you use on your servers again? |
| 17:37.18 | herlo | peno: yes, but I'm not going now |
| 17:38.20 | peno | herlo: your loss. :) |
| 17:45.20 | herlo | peno: don't worry, I'll eat some for you |
| 17:45.23 | herlo | I like donuts |
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| 17:59.54 | carmony_ | TuxToaster: Ubuntu LTS 10.04 atm |
| 18:00.23 | eggyknap | So mindjuju, where's this email I was told to expect? :) |
| 18:04.46 | hhatfield | ~email eggyknap |
| 18:04.48 | herlo | eggyknap: hiding, just like mindjuju |
| 18:04.58 | hhatfield | ~lart ibot |
| 18:04.58 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops hhatfield in half |
| 18:08.38 | josephscott | $8ball will I get this bug fixed today? |
| 18:08.38 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 18:09.20 | hhatfield | $8ball will josephscott be done with the bug when it's fixed? |
| 18:09.21 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is certain. |
| 18:09.52 | hhatfield | $8ball is that today? |
| 18:09.52 | raifbot | hhatfield - Don't count on it. |
| 18:10.09 | hhatfield | ~sorry josephscott |
| 18:10.10 | ibot | ACTION apologizes to josephscott |
| 18:10.27 | josephscott | $8ball will I get this bug fixed today? |
| 18:10.27 | raifbot | josephscott - Don't count on it. |
| 18:10.45 | josephscott | I find your lack of faith disturbing ... |
| 18:10.48 | josephscott | $mindtrick raifbot |
| 18:10.48 | raifbot | (jedi hand wave) raifbot you don't need to see his identification. |
| 18:11.12 | hhatfield | $8ball is josephscott just foolin' himself? |
| 18:11.12 | raifbot | hhatfield - Don't count on it. |
| 18:11.57 | ninnypants | raifbot: seems to have no confidence in josephscott today |
| 18:12.13 | josephscott | yeah, bad bot |
| 18:14.31 | hhatfield | ~bad raifbot |
| 18:14.32 | ibot | Bad raifbot, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 18:14.45 | hhatfield | ~good hhatfield |
| 18:14.45 | ibot | Good hhatfield, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 18:14.59 | hhatfield | ~who took the cookie from the cookie jar? |
| 18:15.29 | ninnypants | ~cookie hhatfield |
| 18:16.19 | mindjuju | has anybody had any problems playing wav files over https? |
| 18:16.33 | mindjuju | i'm reading weird stuff like PCM worky ACM no worky |
| 18:16.58 | mindjuju | darn, no beandog |
| 18:18.13 | PoeticIntensity | hmm... I've never tried. |
| 18:18.23 | PoeticIntensity | I know Chrome plays wav files just fine over http. |
| 18:18.38 | PoeticIntensity | ...and logic tells me it's just data that needs to be decoded properly. |
| 18:18.49 | PoeticIntensity | shouldn't matter if it's https or http.... should it? |
| 18:19.03 | fungus | mindjuju, isn't PCM the universal wav standard anyway? |
| 18:24.22 | eggyknap | herlo: belated lol |
| 18:25.57 | mindjuju | fungus -- it is, PoeticIntensity, i'm reading if you're using acm, you get weirdness, i'm actually getting no playback |
| 18:25.58 | herlo | eggyknap: :) |
| 18:26.06 | mindjuju | using the bgsound html "tag" |
| 18:26.23 | mindjuju | and yall don't flip out, this isn't my code, i didn't choose bgsound |
| 18:26.27 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 18:28.46 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:29.31 | hhatfield | ~freakout |
| 18:29.32 | ibot | it has been said that freakout is learning to be a cobbler |
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| 19:45.57 | mindjuju | gabe newell -- i hate thee! -- http://wccftech.com/exvalve-employee-showreel-shows-scenes-halflife-2-episode-3-halflife-3/ |
| 19:46.28 | mindjuju | otherwise salacious video possabilities of maybe half life 3 |
| 19:58.54 | ninnypants | one day mindjuju one day |
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| 20:10.03 | josephscott | this doesn't look good http://lwn.net/Articles/491516/ |
| 20:10.09 | josephscott | remote hole in samba |
| 20:10.23 | josephscott | remote root hole :-( |
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| 20:19.11 | supernovia | d'oh josephscott ;-( |
| 20:27.29 | TuxToaster | figures... it has to talk to Windows. Inherently less secure. :P |
| 20:27.38 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 20:27.46 | josePHPagoda | but... but... |
| 20:27.55 | josePHPagoda | windows 7 is so secure you don't need an Antivirus |
| 20:28.00 | josePHPagoda | or a firewall |
| 20:29.52 | Monnok | thats what the pr0n companies want you to believe |
| 20:30.51 | josePHPagoda | AV companies make the viruses |
| 20:30.53 | josePHPagoda | and then sell the cure |
| 20:31.00 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 20:36.54 | Monnok | Heh TBH i subscribe to that in part |
| 20:37.26 | Monnok | sometimes the cure comes out a little TOO fast |
| 20:37.56 | Monnok | i can also see a team developing viruses, selling the cure to AV companies |
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| 21:16.47 | mindjuju | darn it, that's who i wanted to talk to |
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| 22:02.35 | mindjuju | hey josePHPagoda |
| 22:02.55 | josePHPagoda | hi mindjuju |
| 22:08.52 | mindjuju | josePHPagoda --> PM |
| 22:13.26 | josephscott | ~blame $8ball |
| 22:13.26 | ibot | ACTION blames $8ball (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:16.37 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:16.37 | raifbot | takes a big bite out of TuxToaster's jugular vein. |
| 22:17.14 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: <---response to PM |
| 22:17.16 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 22:19.34 | josephscott | he was only mostly a zombie |
| 22:19.43 | supernovia | Precisely |
| 22:20.25 | TuxToaster | yay! |
| 22:20.29 | josephscott | if he was all zombie there is only one thing you can do |
| 22:20.49 | TuxToaster | *mumbles* cept that I can't move*/mumbles* |
| 22:21.07 | herlo | josephscott: ahh, that explains it! |
| 22:21.21 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 22:21.21 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into bradym's ear |
| 22:21.45 | TuxToaster | oh, and... |
| 22:21.49 | TuxToaster | supernovia: oh hai! :-) |
| 22:22.40 | TuxToaster | mmmm.... cake |
| 22:23.27 | supernovia | Yeah we couldn't do that even to an all-zombie on his birthday though, right josephscott? |
| 22:23.54 | josephscott | what, look through his pockets for loose change? |
| 22:24.17 | supernovia | Right. |
| 22:24.25 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:25.27 | herlo | I don't think he'd let you stay non-zombie after that incident! He needs those coins for the blood vending machine! |
| 22:25.38 | TuxToaster | I told my wife she could get me a Blendtec. she thought I was a bit crazy. |
| 22:26.21 | supernovia | My friend isn't as anxious to try the VM right now, btw, so I'm still hanging onto it |
| 22:26.40 | TuxToaster | supernovia: does your friend read your blog, perchance? |
| 22:26.48 | supernovia | She doesn't know it exists |
| 22:26.55 | TuxToaster | kk |
| 22:26.58 | supernovia | I told her I might do something like that |
| 22:27.10 | supernovia | But even so I try not to get TOO VM bashing on there |
| 22:27.14 | TuxToaster | was going to say, she might have seen your pics of smoothie-flavored-cabinets |
| 22:27.24 | supernovia | lol. Nah, those were only on twitter |
| 22:27.42 | TuxToaster | ah ok |
| 22:27.46 | supernovia | But even so, I would rather her keep it for a while. She… well, I hope she'll get better |
| 22:27.54 | TuxToaster | I mean, you do know there's a better way to paint your cabinets, right? :P |
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| 23:33.44 | supernovia | sup |
| 23:33.51 | supernovia | oh :) Well have a good night! |
| 23:34.01 | TuxToaster | you too :-) |
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