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| 01:23.11 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: i'll be back onine in a bit to test mumble |
| 01:23.15 | josePHPagoda | and participate in the meeting |
| 01:23.17 | josePHPagoda | :-D |
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| 03:14.23 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: you around? |
| 03:20.14 | TuxToaster | ninnypants & carmony: So this is what the room ended up looking like after I painted it last weekend: http://cl.ly/1Q3h1c15022i1s1t2D3p |
| 03:20.37 | TuxToaster | the green looks a bit darker in that picture, but when the light hits it it's not too bad: http://cl.ly/3y3M010Z1O3Q2H3D1b06 |
| 03:20.57 | herlo | TuxToaster: nice pic |
| 03:21.12 | herlo | it's a bright room to start, so that dark color is nice |
| 03:21.25 | TuxToaster | yeah I like it |
| 03:21.45 | TuxToaster | then I spent the weekend building shelves: http://cl.ly/0R2A37202V1E3K302k35 |
| 03:22.36 | TuxToaster | I just need to finish adding the trim and painting it, and there is a row of shelves that goes on top and some crown moulding to finish it off |
| 03:25.01 | carmony | TuxToaster: nice! |
| 03:25.50 | carmony | TuxToaster: my wife says it looks really pretty :P |
| 03:26.05 | TuxToaster | yup, not turning out too badly at all, especially considering I'm not typically one to do a lot of building |
| 03:26.13 | carmony | oh, I'm the same way |
| 03:26.25 | TuxToaster | but it's an inexpensive way to get built in shelves without spending a ton of money |
| 03:26.40 | carmony | what did you use to build it? |
| 03:26.55 | TuxToaster | IKEA "BILLY" shelves |
| 03:27.02 | carmony | nice |
| 03:27.21 | herlo | yup, I was going to say |
| 03:27.33 | TuxToaster | tacked them together and ran some plywood across the top, all mounted to the wall so it's nice and strong |
| 03:27.41 | herlo | We have a billy set of shelves too, at least I think they are billy |
| 03:27.46 | TuxToaster | then added the trim across the top and down the middles |
| 03:27.55 | TuxToaster | herlo: probably |
| 03:28.00 | TuxToaster | they're nice and durable |
| 03:28.15 | TuxToaster | and white is fairly inexpensive at $49/ea |
| 03:28.16 | herlo | aiui, you can get some brackets to hold them to the wall |
| 03:28.25 | TuxToaster | yeah they come with them |
| 03:28.32 | herlo | yeah, they have a few colors. I thought they were all the same price |
| 03:28.41 | TuxToaster | but since I was going for the built in look I did some custom stuff to it |
| 03:28.52 | TuxToaster | nah, white usually runs a bit cheaper |
| 03:29.03 | TuxToaster | I'm not normally a fan of white but this case it worked well |
| 03:29.27 | TuxToaster | there are seven units there, plus seven extensions that will sit on top |
| 03:29.32 | herlo | yeah, it does work well |
| 03:29.44 | herlo | floor to ceiling? |
| 03:30.09 | TuxToaster | then we'll have three more full sized ones on the other side as well as two half-width ones and four half-height ones, and in total it should run us just under $1k for all of it |
| 03:30.26 | TuxToaster | yeah, with the extension they are just a couple inches shy of the ceiling |
| 03:30.47 | herlo | cool |
| 03:30.50 | TuxToaster | so I spaced them out at bit with the plywood and it will just be high enough to trim in the moulding on top |
| 03:31.12 | herlo | indeed, looks really good |
| 03:31.56 | TuxToaster | I'm tempted to do it a couple more times here at some point, our front room will eventually be moving downstairs when I finish the basement |
| 03:32.10 | TuxToaster | so I will probably do a smaller unit... 4 shelves or so |
| 03:32.28 | TuxToaster | will be cheaper and look better than buying some elaborate curio cabinet |
| 03:32.41 | herlo | yeah, I hear ya there |
| 03:33.02 | TuxToaster | plus thinking I might do 4 or 5 in my office so that I can clean it up a bit |
| 03:33.26 | TuxToaster | though that one will definitely be black instead of white |
| 03:33.46 | herlo | haha, yeah |
| 03:34.21 | TuxToaster | eventually going to paint the office a burgundy color, think it will look cool with black furniture |
| 03:35.50 | herlo | <nod> |
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| 03:52.58 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: looks good |
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| 04:11.53 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: thanks :-) |
| 04:12.02 | supernovia | o hai :) |
| 04:12.10 | supernovia | how's it going? |
| 04:12.20 | TuxToaster | so far so good |
| 04:12.25 | TuxToaster | you? |
| 04:12.50 | supernovia | I'm doing alright |
| 04:13.39 | TuxToaster | good :-) |
| 04:15.13 | supernovia | just typing up my notes from a meeting |
| 04:18.27 | TuxToaster | I'm trying to convince myself to finish up some last minute changes for work, but I'm leaning more towards going to bed and getting up early to do them |
| 04:18.43 | supernovia | bed? what's that? |
| 04:19.28 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:20.04 | herlo | supernovia: it's that thing you sleep in when you are so tired, you can't keep your eyes open...that's a bed! |
| 04:20.20 | supernovia | Oh, the couch. Got it. |
| 04:20.32 | TuxToaster | it's funny how much easier it is to look at cat pictures or read about blenders than to get work done |
| 04:20.40 | supernovia | I know, right? |
| 04:21.21 | supernovia | I'm telling myself now that typing about blenders IS work and it will pay off when people start clicking on my links to buy their blendtecs… :-p |
| 04:21.41 | supernovia | I can tell you eating chocolate cupcakes is WAY easier than other work ;- |
| 04:21.42 | supernovia | D |
| 04:21.48 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:22.11 | TuxToaster | reading about them is equally as easy |
| 04:22.27 | TuxToaster | and has a bit of a contagious effect as well |
| 04:23.35 | TuxToaster | though I think your new blog really could use a splash of you saying "Blenders.... is there anything they can't do?" |
| 04:24.49 | supernovia | lol |
| 04:24.59 | supernovia | Do not use them to make mashed potatoes. Just sayin. |
| 04:25.21 | TuxToaster | heh, yeah, seems like they'd be a little *too* smooth |
| 04:26.13 | supernovia | Seriously grossly smooth. I think I should have spoken up sooner. My mom tried it before i could warn her. I think ninnypants might have, too. And, as it turns out, my old marketing manager Julie had also made that mistake. It's like… paste |
| 04:26.40 | supernovia | Jello in the blender, on the other hand, is hilarious. |
| 04:26.45 | supernovia | And it still tastes good. |
| 04:27.40 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:28.41 | ninnypants | potatoes in a blender are terrible |
| 04:30.06 | TuxToaster | my brother-in-law works at Olive Garden, or at least used to. Has a bit of a penchant for being picky on how food is prepared... but he's always complained about mashed potatoes being too lumpy at family dinners |
| 04:30.26 | TuxToaster | he makes his so smooth that you'd almost think he blends them |
| 04:30.34 | herlo | he probably does |
| 04:30.58 | supernovia | Guh. Seriously, blended potatoes are non edible |
| 04:31.18 | supernovia | They're … kinda slimey almost |
| 04:31.42 | TuxToaster | lucky for us, he and his wife are also one of those notorious ones that always promise they are coming or they are doing x and they never do, so we don't have to deal too much with the nitpicking |
| 04:31.50 | supernovia | Also: do not fool yourself into thinking you can speed up the process of pea soup by blending dry peas. Also really, really bad. |
| 04:32.19 | supernovia | Really awesome for green slime. |
| 04:32.39 | TuxToaster | seems like you should make a section of the blog dedicated to things to avoid |
| 04:32.43 | TuxToaster | would be really handy |
| 04:33.00 | ninnypants | I wonder why twitter clients stopped supporting custom url shorteners |
| 04:33.02 | supernovia | Yeah, I just stuck the potatoes under Tips. I doubt anyone is as foolhearted as me as to try blending dried peas into soup |
| 04:33.25 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: I think Twitter pushed that when they launched t.co |
| 04:33.29 | supernovia | yeah |
| 04:33.52 | TuxToaster | for a bit there Twitter was being really persnickety about allowing 3rd party clients at all actually |
| 04:33.52 | ninnypants | hmm maybe so |
| 04:34.13 | TuxToaster | they are trying to eliminate them in many ways |
| 04:34.16 | ninnypants | guess I'll just have to stick with my old version of tweetdeck |
| 04:34.54 | TuxToaster | one of my many back-burnered projects is a social media client |
| 04:35.24 | ninnypants | maybe I'll play with hackety hack and build a client |
| 04:35.31 | TuxToaster | mostly a twitter client similar to tweetdeck but with some Facebook support as well, though never really got around to planning that side out much |
| 04:35.47 | ninnypants | tweetdeck supports facebook |
| 04:36.01 | TuxToaster | orly? |
| 04:36.04 | ninnypants | yep |
| 04:36.15 | TuxToaster | I haven't actually used it in quite a while now, I used to love it when it first came out |
| 04:36.18 | ninnypants | if the new one doesn't I have a copy of the old air app |
| 04:36.41 | ninnypants | still works great just hoping for something that will get updates |
| 04:37.12 | TuxToaster | I haven't even seen the new one to be honest, I have been lazy and just using the official client on the desktop |
| 04:37.47 | TuxToaster | Twitter has a bit of a history of buying out things and not updating them much or at all |
| 04:38.58 | TuxToaster | Their Mac client for instance gets very little attention, aside from an occasional tweak. And then there are a few other products they've bought out, mostly so that they could poach the engineering talent behind them, while letting the products die |
| 04:39.02 | ninnypants | yeah that's basically what they did with tweetdeck |
| 04:39.12 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 04:39.27 | ninnypants | but they also killed 90% of the features |
| 04:39.40 | ninnypants | all of the ones I actually used it for too |
| 04:39.48 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 04:40.23 | TuxToaster | they hired a guy that ran a company a few years back, had a few cool products that used Twitter and emails to do quick scheduling and notes and such |
| 04:40.28 | ninnypants | This switch to real names is terrible too |
| 04:40.37 | ninnypants | I don't know anyone by their real name |
| 04:41.07 | TuxToaster | and they outright killed all of it, never brought any of it out as a separate product. I started writing my own but just haven't had the time to get back to it |
| 04:41.15 | TuxToaster | are they forcing that ? |
| 04:41.23 | TuxToaster | I know Tweetbot had an option of which format to display |
| 04:41.37 | TuxToaster | but didn't realize that was anything other than an option |
| 04:41.44 | ninnypants | depends on the client |
| 04:41.56 | TuxToaster | oi |
| 04:42.57 | ninnypants | looks like twitteriffic supports showing user names |
| 04:43.30 | ninnypants | I really like tweetdeck but I realize I don't need all the multi column stuff |
| 04:44.23 | TuxToaster | I go through stages as to how much I even follow on there |
| 04:44.49 | supernovia | I use multicolumns |
| 04:45.23 | TuxToaster | it comes and goes, sometimes I have a rash of tweets about a particular event or topic, other times I miss even checking it for days and thus don't have time to catch up on the various lists |
| 04:46.29 | ninnypants | I only use the default columns which could easily be tabs |
| 04:49.24 | supernovia | Psh. |
| 04:50.08 | supernovia | I keep columns for all kinds of things. Ya'll are in my most important people column :) |
| 04:50.36 | ninnypants | I only follow the important people |
| 04:50.39 | supernovia | But I also have columns for topics I'm interested in |
| 04:50.56 | supernovia | I don't even follow THAT list to a T |
| 04:51.13 | supernovia | but it's the one I look to first and am more likely to scroll through |
| 04:51.28 | supernovia | the main list I treat like a chatroom - I never scroll up, but I keep a cloud to see what's going on |
| 04:52.08 | supernovia | I keep other columns for topics, another for new followers, another for mentions, another for direct messages … etc :-p — I'm a spaz. |
| 04:52.30 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:52.40 | TuxToaster | yeah, some days my feed ends up being more of a chat convo |
| 04:52.47 | TuxToaster | usually with you or one of a handful of others |
| 04:53.23 | supernovia | hehe |
| 04:54.56 | TuxToaster | ok, starting to doze off sitting up here, going to call it a night |
| 04:55.04 | ninnypants | later |
| 04:55.26 | TuxToaster | ciao |
| 04:56.43 | supernovia | spakoi! |
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| 15:07.20 | eggyknap | It's warmer here than somewhere else? weird! |
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| 15:32.19 | ninnypants | ~blame macnewbold |
| 15:32.19 | ibot | ACTION blames macnewbold (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 15:33.47 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Meeting TONIGHT! 7pm @c7: clintberry "Advanced PHP Deployment Strategies with Phing" |
| 15:34.01 | Heartsbane | still your fault |
| 15:35.41 | carmony | I will be coming tonight! woohoo! |
| 15:37.04 | mahelious | http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/South+Jordan+UT+USUT0238 |
| 15:37.26 | mahelious | saturday low: 41F; sunday high: 45F |
| 15:37.33 | mahelious | w...t...f |
| 15:38.58 | hhatfield | ~save macnewbold |
| 15:38.58 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves macnewbold from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 15:41.08 | hhatfield | I will not be coming tonight |
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| 15:41.23 | hhatfield | any chance it will be recorded? |
| 15:41.52 | hhatfield | s/any/> 0/ |
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| 15:51.12 | carmony | I wonder if mindjuju is about lurking? |
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| 16:03.03 | carmony | ~apb mindjuju |
| 16:03.03 | ibot | ACTION calls Tim to stake out mindjuju |
| 16:05.55 | itimber | hehe |
| 16:06.01 | carmony | haha |
| 16:06.10 | supernovia | :-D |
| 16:06.35 | herlo | haha, steak sounds good! |
| 16:06.48 | ninnypants | yeah it does |
| 16:07.12 | ninnypants | I may have to bring the kid to tonights meeting so I can go get steak at applbees |
| 16:11.03 | mindjuju | hey supernovia, I was on a conf call til 3:30a and that delayed your deliverable, but i'm doing that request now |
| 16:11.05 | mindjuju | sorry for delay |
| 16:11.18 | supernovia | no worries. Did you get my notes and all that jazz? |
| 16:11.33 | mindjuju | yup, vCool! |
| 16:11.39 | mindjuju | the meeting notes |
| 16:11.40 | herlo | mindjuju: when is it that you find time to sleep? |
| 16:11.48 | mindjuju | sleep, what that? |
| 16:11.52 | supernovia | for realz. |
| 16:11.58 | mindjuju | i feel like i've been hit by mack truck |
| 16:12.33 | herlo | :( |
| 16:12.48 | supernovia | I feel like I just had a pile of dental work and bled out the last of my savings account |
| 16:12.56 | supernovia | oh wait, I did. Blarg. |
| 16:13.16 | herlo | heh |
| 16:13.25 | mindjuju | i saw all those FB comments about wisdom teeth or maybe it was root canals |
| 16:13.36 | mindjuju | i do remember seeing a bunch of posts though |
| 16:13.45 | supernovia | root canals x3, crowns x4. I got one of them just now. |
| 16:13.56 | mindjuju | ouch |
| 16:14.15 | mindjuju | k, i'm off to work on this supernovia, give me like 10 min, i'll PM you info |
| 16:14.22 | mindjuju | carmony, i here |
| 16:14.24 | supernovia | but, as long a sI can't talk to clients I am happy to work on whatever ya got! |
| 16:14.43 | supernovia | (I mean with my mouth all messed up this morning. Of course I'm happy to work on what you got anyway) |
| 16:15.09 | carmony | mindjuju: hey, remember when you would capture the screencasts of the meetings? What tool did you use to do that? |
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| 16:17.05 | herlo | carmony: usb2vga |
| 16:17.09 | herlo | er vga2usb |
| 16:17.40 | herlo | the recording component is less difficult when you have it coming in over usb |
| 16:17.48 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:17.56 | carmony | I was looking online for how much those are |
| 16:18.06 | herlo | ~$300 |
| 16:18.06 | ibot | somebody said $300 was fine |
| 16:18.12 | herlo | lol |
| 16:18.30 | herlo | carmony: they work with linux, mac and windows iirc |
| 16:18.58 | carmony | http://www.epiphan.com/products/frame-grabbers/vga2usb/ -- this one? :P |
| 16:19.07 | mindjuju | yup |
| 16:19.19 | mindjuju | why you ask? |
| 16:19.32 | mindjuju | for tonight meeting? |
| 16:19.48 | herlo | yes |
| 16:20.27 | herlo | mindjuju: do you own that vga2usb? |
| 16:20.34 | herlo | or was that a BGM one |
| 16:20.54 | mindjuju | nope, i bought it for recording when i was UPHPU pres those many moons ago |
| 16:21.13 | mindjuju | now that i work for UTOS, i want to see a way of leveraging it there |
| 16:21.14 | herlo | coolness |
| 16:21.27 | herlo | well, you just need freeseer :) |
| 16:21.32 | herlo | and a mic input |
| 16:21.35 | mindjuju | in fact, i have it with me at work |
| 16:21.46 | mindjuju | q though, was google hangout not working? |
| 16:22.02 | herlo | mindjuju: I think google hangout is nice, but recording from it isn't clean |
| 16:22.03 | carmony | can google hangout record as well? |
| 16:22.05 | mindjuju | i have physic lab on thursday nights so i never got to watch |
| 16:22.12 | herlo | carmony: you can record your screen |
| 16:22.26 | herlo | hangout doesn't do that |
| 16:22.37 | supernovia | my tired eyes saw psychic lab |
| 16:23.04 | herlo | use something like freeseer and record the hangout would work |
| 16:23.05 | mindjuju | that'd be funny |
| 16:23.10 | supernovia | best. dog. evar. |
| 16:23.27 | herlo | but you'd have to hack the output to be sent as input with pulseaudio (or whatever mac uses) |
| 16:23.41 | herlo | it's pretty easy. |
| 16:24.02 | mindjuju | i remember herlo talking about freeseer, but i never worked with it, i was starting to get traction with something in mediabuntu |
| 16:24.08 | mindjuju | but i don't remember what the app was called |
| 16:24.16 | ninnypants | there's some decent screen recording apps for mac in the app store |
| 16:24.25 | herlo | carmony: the thing I'd consider is finding a screen recorder that can set the space you want to record |
| 16:24.45 | herlo | ninnypants: yeah, but then you have to pay $$ for it |
| 16:25.13 | herlo | :P |
| 16:25.22 | carmony | well, what would be nice is if we didn't need any software on the presenter's equiptment |
| 16:25.26 | herlo | if $$ isn't an issue, go for it... |
| 16:25.41 | herlo | carmony: well, hangout is not *much* software and works on most computers |
| 16:25.49 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:25.53 | herlo | I think not having software on the presenters computer presents other problems |
| 16:26.05 | herlo | like what if they don't have vga out? |
| 16:26.23 | mindjuju | then there is no projector either |
| 16:26.30 | mindjuju | and you go vid cam |
| 16:26.32 | herlo | mindjuju: display port could work |
| 16:26.33 | mindjuju | ;) |
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| 16:26.51 | herlo | but not sure if vga2usb supports display port converter tool |
| 16:27.01 | herlo | probably does |
| 16:27.18 | herlo | my point being that there is always something the presenter will likely have to install or do to stream |
| 16:27.28 | herlo | unless, like mindjuju suggests, you use a video camera |
| 16:27.45 | mindjuju | if it outs to vga i can capture it, but that's true who was it that was using a mac but didn't bring the proper adapter for the project? |
| 16:27.58 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 16:27.59 | carmony | >.> |
| 16:28.01 | carmony | <.< |
| 16:28.08 | carmony | who? |
| 16:28.08 | carmony | ;) |
| 16:28.12 | mindjuju | k, no more distractions, got to do something for velda |
| 16:28.13 | mindjuju | brb |
| 16:28.38 | herlo | carmony: so, I've done a ton of research on this, and for the money, I'd go this way |
| 16:28.44 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:28.46 | herlo | vga2usb |
| 16:28.54 | herlo | is the best tool for the $$ |
| 16:29.01 | carmony | yeah, well they have several versions |
| 16:29.11 | herlo | unless you don't have a problem with possible dropouts on hangout, then I'd go that way |
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| 16:29.15 | carmony | and I wanted to see which one victor had used, which was the $300 one |
| 16:29.28 | herlo | carmony: they only have one vga2usb, they have a lot of other variations |
| 16:29.38 | herlo | carmony: and I bought the same one victor has |
| 16:29.51 | herlo | works rexcellently |
| 16:30.24 | herlo | but like I said, the main thing is ensuring you have all of the components. Don't forget to remember a microphone, vga2usb doesn't record sound |
| 16:30.33 | carmony | yeah |
| 16:31.21 | herlo | beyond that, any screen recorder will do. |
| 16:31.50 | herlo | well, anything that can record input from usb and mic will do |
| 16:32.12 | herlo | carmony: additionally, I'd be happy to help you test |
| 16:33.24 | herlo | I'm usually home F-Sun these days |
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| 16:33.53 | carmony | yeah, we'll have to check it out :) |
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| 16:48.28 | captbrogers | ~wat |
| 16:48.29 | ibot | i heard wat is the linuxargs line?, or https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat |
| 16:48.59 | nickdc | not cool raifbot. not cool... |
| 16:51.56 | hhatfield | ~rlart |
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| 17:04.41 | macnewbold | ninnypants: one or two of my sons are coming to the meeting tonight too |
| 17:06.05 | ninnypants | macnewbold: cool! Mine might be too |
| 17:06.24 | macnewbold | yeah, i just saw the Steak discussion |
| 17:12.18 | ninnypants | steak sounds delicious |
| 17:12.23 | macnewbold | no kidding |
| 17:12.27 | macnewbold | yummy red meat |
| 17:12.31 | macnewbold | not too red |
| 17:13.08 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I think I am going to write a twitter client now that you made me think of it |
| 17:13.13 | jsmith | macnewbold: Just medium-rare? |
| 17:13.24 | macnewbold | yeah that's about perfect |
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| 17:15.07 | jsmith | macnewbold: Amen, brother! Praise the grill and pass the potato salad |
| 17:16.24 | herlo | ninnypants: many web apps do, like gmail, google reader, google+, github does it on issues and repos |
| 17:16.52 | herlo | I've seen it elsewhere, but facebook can't be bothered to make a ui that works, let alone is what the user really wants to see |
| 17:17.20 | captbrogers | Speaking of the grilling stuff, I got a nice grill/smoker for Christmas and got to bust it out two weeks ago at my in-law's. It was great, Tri-tip steaks, Rib-eyes, burgers, hotdogs...they were delicious |
| 17:17.42 | captbrogers | That thing is a beast |
| 17:17.49 | herlo | captbrogers: I think I may pull mine out next weekend. Friends coming over for boardgames, could be fun |
| 17:19.23 | captbrogers | I can't wait until I'm out of an apartment and I can get it back with me permanently. I'll be entering http://utahsamazinghomerace.com to see if I can't win some down payment money after my savings took a hit with the birth of my last kid |
| 17:20.21 | ninnypants | herlo: yeah I'm just finding that more and more desktop apps for social don't support it |
| 17:20.53 | ninnypants | which is a pain because I don't want to have to go up and down the time line and click links with the same hand it makes more sense to use both |
| 17:22.33 | herlo | ninnypants: it's because most users don't use tools that way |
| 17:23.04 | herlo | google and other dev orgs go to the trouble because they know their main userbase will use the featurs. I think normal users would too, if they knew they existed. |
| 17:23.39 | herlo | UX design is broken imo if you aren't providing shortcut keystroke options too |
| 17:25.52 | ninnypants | exactly |
| 17:26.31 | ninnypants | I only use a few of the keystrokes but the ones I do use I use a lot so it keeps me from switching to not have that |
| 17:27.47 | ninnypants | I've been trying to find a new twitter client and that and the lack of the ability to use a personal url shortener is what has kept me from switching away from the old tweetdeck |
| 17:28.53 | herlo | j/k and / |
| 17:28.59 | herlo | those are the ones I always want |
| 17:29.22 | herlo | I like the ones that gmail and reader give you, like r - reply, f - forward, s - share |
| 17:29.42 | herlo | I find that I use the mouse less and less with google apps than anywhere else |
| 17:37.00 | captbrogers | Gah, sometimes JavaScript seems like black magic |
| 17:39.21 | ninnypants | can't be any more magic that strtotime |
| 17:40.27 | captbrogers | Oh, romanovic, I decided to move off of ThrustVPS. I kept getting my server going offline or almost dead because it was grinding on I don't know what. I switched from OpenVZ to Xen and for days the server would never be online, and no matter how many times I issued a boot command from the online control panel it would never boot. To top it off, took them a few days to answer my support ticket |
| 17:41.22 | romanovic | hmmm. good to know. I was hoping it really would be a good deal |
| 17:41.37 | romanovic | captbrogers: so, where are you moving to now? |
| 17:42.25 | captbrogers | Well, I wasn't so sure about OpenVZ, I think I like Xen because of how Iptables needs a certain kernel version. I moved to vps6.net, they have an almost identical setup and control panel, but I did that almost a week ago and I haven't had a single hiccup |
| 17:42.27 | ninnypants | captbrogers: I've never had known down time on my server from Thrust |
| 17:43.29 | herlo | captbrogers: romanovic: there is prgmr.com they are pretty awesome and let you do things other vps providers don't. Like run pretty much any version of Linux you like (as long as it works with Xen, of course) |
| 17:44.46 | captbrogers | I didn't really have serious downtime until I switched from OpenVZ to Xen. It would never boot, and support took way to long to get to me about it. I couldn't use their VNC server, no remote console, nothing |
| 17:45.58 | captbrogers | I know I wasn't really paying a lot, and I wasn't losing money, but I hate paying for something then it doesn't work. And when I wanted to get pictures of my new son up, and my server was completely unresponsive, that was just too much to deal with. |
| 17:46.37 | captbrogers | https://vps6.net/vps-xen.php#&slider1=5 |
| 17:46.44 | captbrogers | I went with the Xen-1024 |
| 17:47.23 | ninnypants | captbrogers: makes sense I think I would leave as well if I'd had something like that happen |
| 17:47.36 | captbrogers | I didn't receive any email after a few hours that my server was ready and their CP said it was still being built. Sent an email to support and less than 5 minutes later I had a response and my server ready. That made me feel a heck of a lot better about it |
| 17:48.00 | captbrogers | And I know I was probably the <5% that has issues like that, but just because 90%+ of others don't have a problem doesn't mean I want to stick around |
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| 17:48.20 | captbrogers | Thrust is probably great, but it just didn't work out for me |
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| 18:43.46 | captbrogers | Kinda sucks when people hang out in an IRC room (another one) but no one is around ever to help... |
| 18:45.02 | clintberry | Is anyone coming to the presentation tonight? I will cut UPHPU stickers if that helps get people there :-) |
| 18:45.51 | captbrogers | Anyone have an idea why some things might get cached after I remove a node from the DOM then insert a new one at a later time, but the second one has different dimensions than the first? I'm using jQuery. And here is the paste of my script |
| 18:45.53 | captbrogers | http://pastebin.com/Qpd4ytfL |
| 18:47.19 | captbrogers | I should clarify. The dimensions of the first node seem to squash the second node's dimensions |
| 18:58.56 | ninnypants | clintberry: I'm planning on it |
| 19:00.23 | clintberry | ninnypants: sweet. |
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| 20:26.42 | hhatfield | captbrogers: think you could throw that in http://jsfiddle.net/ ? |
| 20:27.23 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 20:27.23 | raifbot | slams influx against a large cement Tux. |
| 20:27.53 | hhatfield | $8ball did that last lart target Tux? |
| 20:27.53 | raifbot | hhatfield - Very doubtful. |
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| 20:44.13 | ninnypants | captbrogers: would have to see something functioning to debug but you could save time on your overlay by just positioning it fixed then adding width and height 100% to it in the css |
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| 21:22.53 | macnewbold | clintberry: i'm going to be there tonight too |
| 21:23.14 | macnewbold | i hope we have a good turnout |
| 21:23.35 | clintberry | I hope so too. Two weeks late and we run a risk. But hey, two of you, and my wife. I'm down |
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| 21:39.21 | ninnypants | SunSparc: http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/29/familyleaf-y-combinator-ap/ |
| 21:39.29 | ninnypants | not same as what you're doing but may be interesting |
| 21:40.03 | ninnypants | clintberry: it's the LDS tech conference right now too I think |
| 21:40.16 | ninnypants | sounded like carmony would make it too |
| 21:40.41 | carmony | I'm coming :) |
| 21:41.48 | clintberry | Great! |
| 21:50.19 | macnewbold | yay |
| 21:51.59 | ninnypants | ok css question I've got this site http://dev.jeffbrandner.com/collections/furniture/coffee-tables/ and the nav works fine in FF but in chrome the css hovers aren't working any idea why? |
| 21:53.08 | mahelious | what doesnt work in chrome, exactly? |
| 21:54.24 | clintberry | I show 2 js errors on that page. Does the nav require any javascript? |
| 21:55.32 | ninnypants | nope |
| 21:55.43 | ninnypants | but I figured it out will post the code in a minute |
| 21:57.01 | ninnypants | so it wouldn't display using this https://gist.github.com/2244157 |
| 21:58.03 | clintberry | What did you change? |
| 21:58.20 | ninnypants | changed it to this https://gist.github.com/2244157 |
| 21:59.16 | clintberry | that is weird |
| 21:59.56 | ninnypants | yeah makes no sense |
| 22:00.07 | mahelious | im still kindof a git newb, but you posted the same link twice... |
| 22:00.29 | ninnypants | mahelious: you can see the versions on the right side older version is the non working code |
| 22:06.28 | clintberry | Why wouldn't it like the <li> tag to be display:block ? |
| 22:06.37 | clintberry | That is baffling |
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| 22:09.52 | ninnypants | yeah there's no real info out there on it either |
| 22:10.26 | ninnypants | I guess cause while skimming a thread on chrome issues I saw something about display: block |
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| 22:15.09 | clintberry | I am going to try and replicate that later and see if I can get the same results. If so You could file it as a bug |
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| 22:24.39 | ninnypants | yeah I'm going to play with it some as well |
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| 23:02.24 | tomammon | whoa! |
| 23:02.37 | tomammon | guess that's what happens when you're quiet ;) |
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| 23:52.47 | carmony | alright, getting ready to head out |
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