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| 02:22.28 | TuxToaster | hhatfield: why does ZF need a separate site, though? |
| 02:22.48 | TuxToaster | the beauty of SO is that it deals with all kinds of programming issues |
| 02:23.17 | TuxToaster | separating the languages and even then frameworks out into their own separate sites seems to fracture the user base |
| 02:29.19 | TuxToaster | hmm, some good points made for both sides in the discussion |
| 02:29.47 | TuxToaster | I'm still not sure I agree with making it a completely separate site though, but it does make sense to offer a more dedicated experience |
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| 03:16.10 | ninnypants | $save TuxToaster |
| 03:16.11 | raifbot | runs into a burning building and saves TuxToaster from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 03:16.21 | ninnypants | raifbot: hopefully |
| 03:16.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 03:16.28 | TuxToaster | thanks |
| 03:16.37 | ninnypants | crazy night? |
| 03:16.42 | ninnypants | or day |
| 03:16.52 | TuxToaster | yeah, just dealing with an over-ambitious owner |
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| 03:17.50 | ninnypants | over ambitious and under funded? ;) |
| 03:17.52 | TuxToaster | put it this way, we are trying to launch a beta of our site... and so we layed out exactly what features were left to be completed, scheduled up when they'd need to be done by, and I've been cramming since Friday to get them done this week |
| 03:18.11 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: crazy |
| 03:18.25 | TuxToaster | and the third owner (guy that works for Google and is here through this week) thinks he's going to get 10,000 users to sign up starting... tomorrow. |
| 03:18.58 | TuxToaster | so in the last few hours he's requested over two dozen changes, including a redesign of the home page and making a couple of tutorial videos, that he expects me to have finished by 8 AM. |
| 03:18.59 | TuxToaster | :-) |
| 03:19.39 | ninnypants | ouch |
| 03:19.46 | ninnypants | is this the one with the timeline? |
| 03:19.53 | TuxToaster | not to mention the doozy that he apparently thinks that he's going to get President Obama to declare a "Hire a Student Day" and we will coincide the main launch of our site with it |
| 03:19.55 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 03:20.13 | ninnypants | well then |
| 03:20.27 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: ^^ you'll get a kick out of that one |
| 03:21.25 | TuxToaster | as far as the timeline goes, I am going to end up doing something like what you suggested, but luckily the other two owners agreed with me that it can wait until we get the rest of the site actually finished. |
| 03:22.21 | herlo | TuxToaster: are you charging more than $250/hr for this time? I'd suggest you respond to his emergency requests with something to that effect if he wants to get them done by 8am |
| 03:23.18 | TuxToaster | herlo: lets say I'm already getting a bit of a bonus for getting the site built out this week, so I've already been burning a ton of extra time on it. |
| 03:23.41 | TuxToaster | but there's no way I'd be able to get all this extra stuff he's throwing in done inside of 10 hours |
| 03:24.40 | TuxToaster | so I figure I'm going to finish the features that we already agreed would be completed by tomorrow, then I'm going to send him an email (copied to everyone else) and let him know that I needed more notice and discussion, and that he'll have to wait til tomorrow. |
| 03:24.55 | TuxToaster | if I don't get a good night's sleep tonight I'm going to crash. heh. |
| 03:28.28 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 03:28.28 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can find hay in a needle stack. |
| 03:28.48 | TuxToaster | dangit, I've been looking for that needle! |
| 03:32.01 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: sounds like you have a fun few days coming up |
| 03:32.39 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 03:33.40 | herlo | TuxToaster: as long as he is getting charged by the hour for the extra work :) |
| 03:38.19 | TuxToaster | yup. And tempted to see if I can get in on the giveaway action too -- he mentioned to someone an idea of giving away an iPad a day as part of the press |
| 03:38.20 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 03:38.33 | TuxToaster | I'd be like... I'll take $250/hr + an iPad |
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| 14:17.02 | User510 | hello |
| 14:17.12 | User510 | is it possible for PHP to talk to a USB ? |
| 14:18.21 | jsmith | User510: A USB device on the server? Possible, yes. Easy, probably not. |
| 14:20.43 | User510 | can you show a good guide for me ? |
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| 14:21.22 | hhatfield | User510: are you running windows or linux? |
| 14:22.07 | Monnok | lol i like the exclusion of macs there |
| 14:22.19 | User510 | windows |
| 14:23.29 | hhatfield | Monnok: not many people running mac servers |
| 14:24.49 | hhatfield | User510: and that was what I was meaning… the computer that is running php connecting to a usb device plugged into it is running windows, right? |
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| 14:26.08 | hhatfield | ~bye User510 |
| 14:26.08 | ibot | no |
| 14:26.18 | hhatfield | ~bye |
| 14:26.18 | ibot | l8tr |
| 14:26.32 | hhatfield | ~bye Monnok |
| 14:26.32 | ibot | no |
| 14:26.45 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 14:26.45 | raifbot | frags Bikerdan with his BFG9000. |
| 14:27.01 | hhatfield | anyways, for anyone interested… here's something I found: |
| 14:27.03 | hhatfield | http://www.arduinoprojects.com/node/10 |
| 14:27.19 | hhatfield | specific to arduino and anything else that uses usb the same way |
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| 15:12.04 | macnewbold | TuxToaster: awesome story last night… sorry i missed it until later - i hope your day goes better today |
| 15:22.40 | mgeary | what's the summary of this awesome story? |
| 15:29.13 | influx | Any SVN-using folk around? |
| 15:29.24 | mgeary | aye |
| 15:33.18 | influx | (woot) Are local branch edits tracked regardless of commit status? That is, can I make some edits, switch to a different branch without having first committed the changes to the first branch, make edits to the second branch, then switch back to the first without losing the initial changes? |
| 15:36.36 | influx | make ? i sense |
| 15:38.25 | hhatfield | $8ball make? influx sense |
| 15:38.25 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is decidedly so. |
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| 15:39.11 | mgeary | i'm afraid i've never really ramped up on branches (ducks and hides) |
| 15:39.28 | influx | :) |
| 15:39.51 | fungus | influx, if you mean switching via svn switch, the answer is no. An svn switch is similar to another checkout entirely. |
| 15:40.15 | influx | fungus: Then I would need to commit before switching? |
| 15:40.33 | fungus | Yes, or just checkout the other branch to a new directory and use them separately. |
| 15:41.17 | influx | That helps out a lot, thank you. Now I won't lose a few days worth of work due to my novice svn skillz. |
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| 15:53.35 | mindjuju_ | happy bday Sunsparc! And it's on Pi day to boot! Awesome! |
| 15:54.10 | mgeary | wow. Pi day already? where does the time go |
| 15:54.49 | mindjuju_ | i know! seems like just 3.64 x10^2 that we celebrated it last |
| 15:56.03 | mindjuju_ | oh wait, this is a leap year, that might be 3.65x10^2 days |
| 15:56.06 | mindjuju_ | who knows? |
| 15:56.16 | mindjuju_ | maybe fungus or DtD |
| 15:57.07 | Bikerdan | mindjuju - How'd you end up with that issue yesterday? |
| 15:58.10 | mindjuju_ | oh i forced the issue and they're installing xdebug now |
| 15:58.39 | Bikerdan | Were you ever able to get xdebug working on your setup? |
| 15:58.42 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 15:58.43 | raifbot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps carmony. |
| 15:58.52 | hhatfield | $8ball do you think it will help? |
| 15:58.52 | raifbot | hhatfield - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 15:59.05 | hhatfield | $8ball do you think it will help? |
| 15:59.05 | raifbot | hhatfield - Outlook not so good. |
| 15:59.19 | mindjuju_ | i didn't have a chance to finish on, because i had to copy over like 20GB of files |
| 15:59.35 | Bikerdan | Ahhh. |
| 15:59.42 | Bikerdan | You'll have to let me know how it ends up. |
| 15:59.44 | Bikerdan | I'm curious. |
| 16:01.33 | carmony | $lart hhatfield |
| 16:01.33 | raifbot | does a little 'dpkg -P hhatfield' action. |
| 16:02.13 | hhatfield | carmony: my act of violence was random. yours? |
| 16:04.24 | carmony | Naw, I like to focus my violence ;) |
| 16:10.25 | influx | carmony is a laser. |
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| 16:40.36 | skinner | You know you've been awake too long when you start to doze off and the weight of one of your fingers presses down the backspace button and erases half your code... |
| 16:41.04 | josePHPagoda | :-( |
| 16:41.16 | clintberry | ctrl-z! quick! |
| 16:41.27 | captbrogers | Good thing I was there to warn him |
| 16:41.34 | captbrogers | I lol'd for a minute though |
| 16:42.03 | skinner | yup |
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| 16:44.34 | skinner | Whooops! |
| 16:44.37 | skinner | Better erase that |
| 16:44.38 | captbrogers | Most profitable sleep ever. |
| 16:46.45 | mahelious | we have to burn the keyboard and the hard drive. its the only way to be sure. |
| 16:48.51 | captbrogers | Perform a cleansing on it |
| 16:49.40 | skinner | I'll go get the holy water |
| 16:49.50 | ninnypants | submerge it in holly water then spin it until the disks melt |
| 16:50.00 | josePHPagoda | kill it! kill it with fire! |
| 16:52.57 | Bikerdan | Given enough faceplants on enough keyboards, it was bound to happen at some point. |
| 16:53.44 | hhatfield | $lart Twilight |
| 16:53.45 | raifbot | executes killall -KILL Twilight. |
| 16:55.22 | ninnypants | should've been an rm -rf |
| 16:58.41 | macnewbold | i <3 dutch apples |
| 16:59.01 | macnewbold | http://turntable.fm/4f10ac2b590ca243cd002102 if anyone is interested |
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| 17:00.04 | wps | here, ninnypants |
| 17:00.04 | wps | http://www.browneyedbaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/dutch-apple-pie-1-525.jpg |
| 17:00.33 | captbrogers | Anyone else here use Fedora? |
| 17:01.07 | wps | ages ago |
| 17:01.33 | ninnypants | captbrogers: herlo does |
| 17:01.46 | ninnypants | though he may be running Goose now though |
| 17:02.01 | Monnok | utahcon does as well |
| 17:02.09 | captbrogers | Just switched back to it last night and it has been awesome. |
| 17:02.20 | wps | desktop or server? |
| 17:02.23 | captbrogers | Desktop |
| 17:02.26 | captbrogers | CentOS for server |
| 17:02.36 | wps | ah… sorry, I was thinking server |
| 17:02.41 | wps | I don't use linux for desktop |
| 17:02.44 | wps | centos for me for server |
| 17:03.18 | captbrogers | I used to have it on a server, but I began to think it would be easier to maintain a CentOS box with the Remi repo enabled |
| 17:08.01 | herlo | captbrogers: what's up? |
| 17:08.12 | herlo | captbrogers: remi repo for php is pretty good |
| 17:08.29 | herlo | don't forget to use epel if you are using centos |
| 17:08.57 | herlo | captbrogers: Fedora as a desktop is amazing. GNOME3 is incredible |
| 17:09.20 | herlo | you can also enable rpmfusion repos to get the patent encumbered stuffs |
| 17:10.34 | captbrogers | herlo: I do have epel enabled, I'm still not sure how much I like Gnome 3, it has some cool things but I hate that a lot of customization was taken away |
| 17:10.46 | herlo | captbrogers: you don't need epel on fedora |
| 17:10.57 | captbrogers | epel on CentOS with Remi for PHP |
| 17:10.59 | herlo | captbrogers: and you can customize quite a bit actually |
| 17:11.05 | herlo | captbrogers: okay, good. |
| 17:11.39 | herlo | captbrogers: the plugins availale in gnome-shell are easy to write as well. It's just javascript |
| 17:11.44 | herlo | but there are like 50 of them |
| 17:11.53 | captbrogers | herlo: yeah, I'm slowly finding things but I remember it being much easier before it. I'm mostly ticked that I can't find a copy of my favorite icon theme |
| 17:11.59 | herlo | you also want to install gnome-tweak-tool |
| 17:12.06 | captbrogers | It seems to have been lost from the internets |
| 17:12.09 | herlo | captbrogers: what theme is that? |
| 17:12.17 | captbrogers | herlo: black-white 2 vista |
| 17:12.25 | skinner | I have that game |
| 17:12.33 | captbrogers | I can find links to it everywhere, but not a complete zip/tar of it to install |
| 17:12.38 | skinner | I like to play as the cow |
| 17:12.58 | captbrogers | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Black-white_2_Vista |
| 17:13.07 | captbrogers | That is where I can find a complete set, but no download link |
| 17:13.19 | herlo | hmm, sounds like the developer stopped working on it |
| 17:13.49 | skinner | Maybe here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_white_2 |
| 17:14.16 | herlo | it's possible that has a proprietary license/ |
| 17:14.17 | herlo | ? |
| 17:14.23 | captbrogers | Nope |
| 17:14.46 | carmony | so who is going to celebrate pie day? |
| 17:14.47 | carmony | :P |
| 17:14.56 | captbrogers | Last I remember it was licensed under GPL/CC and was available on DeviantArt, but that user's account is gone |
| 17:15.10 | captbrogers | I can't even find where to buy it if it were licensed |
| 17:15.56 | herlo | captbrogers: interesting |
| 17:16.07 | herlo | sorry it's disappeared. Maybe the wayback machine? |
| 17:16.24 | captbrogers | I know it's just circumstances, but still sucks |
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| 17:18.20 | herlo | ya |
| 17:18.31 | herlo | captbrogers: did you install rpmfusion repos? |
| 17:18.53 | herlo | tools like vlc and such are there. |
| 17:20.36 | captbrogers | herlo: of course |
| 17:21.19 | captbrogers | rpmfusion, google chrome, livna (for DVD ripping support with libdvdcss), and adobe's repo |
| 17:21.25 | wps | the contents of an email i just received: |
| 17:21.27 | wps | "Awesome sounds good thank you for your help!" |
| 17:21.40 | wps | test messaging has destroyed communication |
| 17:21.42 | herlo | ahh, livna |
| 17:21.50 | wps | is it too much to ask for a little punctuation? |
| 17:21.51 | wps | :) |
| 17:21.55 | captbrogers | wps: curse that test messaging! |
| 17:21.58 | herlo | I don't use livna, but mostly because I don't rip dvds much these days |
| 17:22.14 | captbrogers | herlo: with two young kids and a third on the way, it's almost necessary now |
| 17:22.25 | herlo | captbrogers: really? I stream most of my stuff |
| 17:22.35 | herlo | amazon prime is great for little ones |
| 17:22.39 | macnewbold | "Awesome sounds? good. thank you: for your help!" |
| 17:22.41 | herlo | $80/year |
| 17:22.57 | captbrogers | plus, makes it super simple to rip a bunch of disney/kid stuff, put it on an external drive, plug it right into the TV and I'm golden |
| 17:22.57 | herlo | tons of good shows on there |
| 17:23.08 | herlo | captbrogers: or a lazy parent |
| 17:23.11 | herlo | LIKE ME :) |
| 17:23.14 | captbrogers | Like me too |
| 17:23.18 | herlo | lol |
| 17:36.50 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: I finally ended up sending a bit of a terse email telling him that he needed to be more realistic with expectations. |
| 17:36.58 | macnewbold | amen |
| 17:37.27 | macnewbold | we've been using Pivotal Tracker as a helper for our agile process, and it's been nice |
| 17:37.39 | macnewbold | cause they can put whatever they want on the list, it just pushes something else off the list :) |
| 17:37.39 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: so no all nighters? Then what are you good for? ;) |
| 17:37.56 | TuxToaster | he apologized for "asking too much", but then he sent several other emails afterwards with other fixes he wanted |
| 17:38.03 | TuxToaster | that would be awesome |
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| 17:38.27 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: lol. I was still up till after 3, but finishing the stuff that I had already agreed to work on, not his last minute stuff |
| 17:38.59 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: oh ok maybe they can keep you on |
| 17:39.01 | hhatfield | Pivotal Tracker +1 |
| 17:39.36 | TuxToaster | I even told him the main problem wasn't that he had last minute things to go up -- I can put up a video or screenshots easily. It was the "undiscussed redesign of the home page to be done and live in a couple of hours" that bugged me |
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| 17:52.34 | hhatfield | $lart "undiscussed liveing" |
| 17:52.34 | raifbot | urinates on "undiscussed liveing". |
| 17:54.50 | captbrogers | I'm not sure how to take that |
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| 17:58.51 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:59.12 | hhatfield | ~lolstats |
| 17:59.12 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 4134. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 578 (14.0%), carmony -- 494 (11.9%), macnewbold -- 478 (11.6%) |
| 17:59.21 | TuxToaster | $lart hhatfield |
| 17:59.21 | raifbot | squeezes hhatfield till hhatfield turns blue like papa smurf. |
| 18:00.23 | hhatfield | ouch |
| 18:00.43 | hhatfield | $lart TuxToaster |
| 18:00.43 | raifbot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on TuxToaster . |
| 18:03.18 | tierra | I've just finished dealing with a very frustrating full year of working with a developer that I know lied on their resume/interview to get the job, was completely reluctant to learn anything new (this includes *any* *nix - Windows only, period - which made training them on git unbearable, especially since they lied about actually having experience with version control), didn't know how to take constructive criticism on their work (I can't count ... |
| 18:03.25 | tierra | ... how many times verbal arguments were started over very simple comments on submitted code pointing out problems), still felt raises were deserved even though their projects were 2+ months behind schedule that should have only taken a month max in the first place, and also refused to use community mailing lists, IRC, or community forums to get any help with open source libraries/frameworks past the documentation - wasting a lot of my own time ... |
| 18:03.31 | tierra | ... making me solve their problems for them... |
| 18:04.19 | TuxToaster | ~wallop hhatfield |
| 18:04.20 | ibot | ACTION Grabs a rather large desk and bonks hhatfield about the head with it. |
| 18:04.37 | ninnypants | tierra: sounds like fun |
| 18:05.09 | TuxToaster | tierra: wow |
| 18:05.18 | hhatfield | tierra: how did you get rid of them? |
| 18:05.35 | tierra | they quit after not getting the raise, heh |
| 18:06.06 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:06.07 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 18:07.41 | tierra | probably wouldn't have had to deal with it had my previous lead dev (who has since quit, and I've taken that position now) who gave them the thumbs up had done their job in really reviewing applicants, but now it's finally over |
| 18:08.59 | tierra | so lesson learned, everyone should really check up on their applicants, especially in the coming months, heh (I believe they quit without securing another job first) |
| 18:09.08 | clintberry | tierra: PM me the name so I never hire him :-) |
| 18:09.43 | herlo | lol |
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| 18:10.15 | tierra | heh, was going to leave out names, but for those who know who I work for, you have some advance warning now |
| 18:10.44 | clintberry | ha ha, I'll watch for your company on resumes |
| 18:11.55 | tierra | feel free to hit me up if you see a resume with my company and want to look into it further |
| 18:13.25 | tierra | but as long as some decent diligence is used in checking references and testing knowledge/experience on your applications, I'm positive it'll show... my old lead dev really screwed up there |
| 18:24.39 | ninnypants | http://37signals.com/svn/posts/3137-using-event-capturing-to-improve-basecamp-page-load-times |
| 18:31.48 | tierra | weird... new Basecamp has IE9+ requirement |
| 18:32.32 | ninnypants | I wish I only had to support IE9+ |
| 18:32.41 | tierra | ditto |
| 18:36.04 | mahelious | http://s3.amazonaws.com/37assets/svn/847-ie-trollface.png |
| 18:36.32 | carmony | haha |
| 18:36.33 | mahelious | best take-away from the article. (although the article is pretty darn good) |
| 18:39.19 | ninnypants | yeah some of the technical articles they've been posting on SVN lately have been good |
| 18:39.37 | ninnypants | their one about how they do caching is kind of crazy |
| 18:43.36 | TuxToaster | $lart IE |
| 18:43.36 | raifbot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats IE until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with. |
| 18:45.48 | ninnypants | this one talks about the caching http://37signals.com/svn/posts/3112-how-basecamp-next-got-to-be-so-damn-fast-without-using-much-client-side-ui |
| 18:46.03 | TuxToaster | http://pi.ytmnd.com/ |
| 18:46.04 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:47.38 | fungus | http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery |
| 18:49.11 | TuxToaster | cool |
| 18:53.42 | TuxToaster | heh. "I asked Siri for prime numbers up to 50. It returned phone numbers for steakhouses." |
| 18:53.57 | Monnok | Siri know what you REALLY want |
| 18:59.19 | fungus | (1 x $n) !~ /^1$|^(11+?)\1+$/ |
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| 18:59.41 | fungus | perl method to check if $n is prime |
| 19:08.33 | mgeary | fungus: well of COURSE it is |
| 19:08.59 | fungus | yup, but it's kinda slow for large numbers. |
| 19:09.13 | mgeary | i'm sure |
| 19:13.49 | influx | ~Tacos++ |
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| 19:15.20 | fungus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k64w3354kE |
| 19:15.59 | mgeary | okay, bear with me here |
| 19:16.19 | mgeary | first time doing a pull with git |
| 19:16.28 | mgeary | so i've got local changes to a file, and it appears there are incoming changes |
| 19:16.35 | mgeary | what does "stash" mean? |
| 19:17.35 | ninnypants | stash means you hide your changes until later it reverts back to the unchanged file for the merge then you can get the changes back |
| 19:17.52 | ninnypants | but only if you choose to |
| 19:18.22 | mgeary | what's the right way to reconcile the two versions? |
| 19:18.57 | mgeary | i'm used to having a conflict and resolving it manually by merging in the inbound changes |
| 19:19.10 | ninnypants | you should be able to merge as well |
| 19:19.33 | ninnypants | stash is for if you don't want to merge |
| 19:20.07 | ninnypants | at least in my limited knowledge that's what it's for or if you don't want to work on those changes or need to hurry and push a bug fix then come back to them |
| 19:20.26 | ninnypants | herlo and Utah_Dave know more than me about it |
| 19:21.13 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: the easiest thing is to commit your changes before merging in another branch |
| 19:21.39 | Utah_Dave | You have some uncommitted changes in your current branch, right? |
| 19:24.46 | mgeary | right |
| 19:24.53 | mgeary | there are no branches, just versions |
| 19:24.58 | mgeary | unless branch means something different in git |
| 19:25.24 | Utah_Dave | OK, so either commit your changes and then do the merge |
| 19:25.46 | Utah_Dave | Or you can stash your changes, do the merge, and then unstash your changes. |
| 19:26.11 | Utah_Dave | Let me look up the correct stash option, I haven't used it in a while. |
| 19:26.43 | mgeary | okay, so i committed |
| 19:26.49 | mgeary | and then i pulled |
| 19:27.04 | Utah_Dave | ok, that's what I usually do |
| 19:27.20 | mgeary | so, now i have this: Automatic merge failed; fix conflicts and then commit the result. |
| 19:27.49 | ninnypants | mgeary: there will be some tags in those files now and you'll have to reconcile the code between them |
| 19:27.53 | mgeary | but apparently it's not like svn in giving me the various versions of the file. i only get the file with the diff crap in it? |
| 19:27.56 | mgeary | bah |
| 19:28.30 | ninnypants | mgeary: I found these handy for getting some of the basics and some ideas about branching http://pinboard.in/u:ninnypants/t:git |
| 19:29.02 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: try running "git mergetool |
| 19:29.06 | Utah_Dave | " |
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| 19:34.43 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: did that help with the conflict? |
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| 19:34.56 | mgeary | nah, i just did it manually for now. wasn't a big change |
| 19:35.10 | mgeary | but i'll probably be checking that out soon |
| 19:41.02 | mgeary | anyone here worked with simple jQuery plugins? |
| 19:41.34 | mgeary | i'm trying to mod one, and i'm not sure how to manually call a function inside one |
| 19:42.22 | ninnypants | mgeary: a little |
| 19:42.29 | ninnypants | I've made a couple small ones |
| 19:42.39 | mgeary | ninnypants: so it's a stopwatch, and it's initiated with $("#foo").stopwatch() |
| 19:43.03 | mgeary | what i want to do is be able to manually call a reset function from outside the scope of the plugin code |
| 19:43.48 | ninnypants | can you paste the plugin code? |
| 19:44.19 | mgeary | http://pastebin.com/wxVprhWk <-- i've hacked it up a bit, but there it is |
| 19:44.53 | mgeary | the reset function doesn't exist as such yet, but the code is there inside a bind. I can make a reset function, just don't know how to call it from the main html page |
| 19:49.32 | ninnypants | mgeary: and you only need to call it when the reset button is clicked? |
| 19:50.06 | mgeary | i am submitting an ajax request and when that comes back, i want to reset the stopwatch, so i need to call it from a different scope |
| 19:50.18 | mgeary | that request isn't happening inside the stopwatch code |
| 19:51.24 | ninnypants | you could return this or something and store it in a variable |
| 19:51.47 | mgeary | okay |
| 19:51.53 | ninnypants | or you could do $('#foo .reset').click() when the ajax finishes |
| 19:52.07 | ninnypants | that will trigger a click event on the reset button |
| 19:52.10 | mgeary | so just var foo = $("#bah").stopwatch() |
| 19:52.20 | mgeary | but there isn't actually a button |
| 19:54.46 | ninnypants | but yeah I think returning the object may work or some object that contains the functions that were created in the scope and have the ability to use that scope's variables |
| 19:55.59 | ninnypants | so it could return an object like {el: clock, reset: function(){}, stop: function(){}, start: function(){}}; |
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| 20:15.25 | ninnypants | just at the very end I believe |
| 20:16.05 | mgeary | doesn't seem to do it |
| 20:16.09 | mgeary | tried a number of places so far |
| 20:16.37 | ninnypants | mgeary: I know that's why you store the return elsewhere so you can access it and call its functions from inside the ajax success method |
| 20:16.55 | ninnypants | oh woops I was scrolled up thought you'd said that again... |
| 20:16.56 | ninnypants | my bad |
| 20:17.35 | ninnypants | what about returning an object like the one above? |
| 20:17.51 | mgeary | well, i can't get it to return *anything* |
| 20:18.33 | ninnypants | weird |
| 20:19.31 | herlo | mgeary: still have questions about git? |
| 20:19.47 | ninnypants | mgeary: it looks like you should be able to from this http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/scriptjunkie/ff608209 |
| 20:19.53 | mgeary | herlo: nope, thanks |
| 20:20.04 | ninnypants | but that's just the first thing I found with example code |
| 20:20.41 | mgeary | aha |
| 20:20.55 | mgeary | return $(this) one level in from where i was doing it seems to work |
| 20:21.06 | ninnypants | sweet |
| 20:21.24 | mgeary | well |
| 20:21.27 | mgeary | no |
| 20:21.36 | mgeary | that's getting a ref to the div, not the js object |
| 20:22.07 | mgeary | bah |
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| 20:23.15 | herlo | mgeary: okay. Cool |
| 20:23.29 | herlo | mgeary: btw, we're going to Brighton all day tomorrow, if you wanted to sneak away :) |
| 20:23.35 | mgeary | hah. nice |
| 20:23.40 | herlo | :P |
| 20:24.07 | herlo | funny thing, Shaun's sunburn blistered pretty bad. We were going to go yesterday, but it wasn't quite healed. It should be pretty good for tomorrow. |
| 20:24.15 | mgeary | yeah, same here |
| 20:24.23 | mgeary | we went to church on sunday looking like a couple of clowns |
| 20:24.25 | herlo | for you? or for Jackson? |
| 20:24.28 | herlo | lol |
| 20:24.28 | mgeary | jackson has been mortified |
| 20:24.31 | herlo | nice! |
| 20:24.40 | mgeary | lots of aloe vera seems to have made a big difference |
| 20:24.44 | mgeary | but it's still there |
| 20:24.53 | herlo | I had some nice raccoon eyes for a couple days, but not as bad a burn as Shaun |
| 20:25.01 | herlo | mine is almost gone |
| 20:25.15 | herlo | how was Supreme? |
| 20:25.19 | mgeary | fantastic |
| 20:25.32 | mgeary | we did that, and then went clear back over to Wildcat |
| 20:25.33 | herlo | yeah? I wanted to go, but my legs were so jello |
| 20:25.38 | mgeary | got in like 5 runs after you guys left |
| 20:25.41 | herlo | nice |
| 20:25.47 | mgeary | but yeah, my legs were toast when we were done |
| 20:25.57 | herlo | Walking up to the parking lot was painful |
| 20:26.07 | herlo | took me probably twice as long as it normally would |
| 20:26.15 | herlo | :P |
| 20:26.19 | herlo | Great day though! |
| 20:26.31 | mgeary | funny story -- we were coming down that blue run to the right of that black diamond next to the corkscrew run. It ended up being quite a bit steeper than i had thought |
| 20:26.39 | herlo | I'm sure we were slowing you down some if you got 5 more runs in :) |
| 20:26.47 | mgeary | and my legs are aching, so i'm taking it slowly, back and forth |
| 20:26.52 | herlo | lol |
| 20:26.56 | ninnypants | mgeary: that link I sent earlier looks like it might have something that will work for you about half way down the page |
| 20:27.16 | mgeary | and suddenly, out of freakin' nowhere, this guy comes BARRELING past me. I swear he must have been going 60 mph |
| 20:27.42 | mgeary | freaked me out and down i go. i slide probably 100 feet down the hill |
| 20:27.48 | herlo | lol |
| 20:27.51 | herlo | very nice |
| 20:27.58 | mgeary | maybe you had to be there, but jackson cracked up pretty good |
| 20:28.05 | herlo | did the other guy crash? |
| 20:28.10 | herlo | I am laughing pretty good here |
| 20:28.26 | herlo | shaun will laugh when I tell him |
| 20:29.24 | mgeary | no, but dang, he was going so fast |
| 20:29.34 | mgeary | if he'd hit anything, he'd have just been a big splat |
| 20:29.36 | herlo | yeah, there were a lot of people like that |
| 20:29.55 | herlo | especially on the Collins side at Alta |
| 20:30.10 | mgeary | ninnypants: i get a return value, but it's just a reference back to the $("#foo"), so i can't find a way to access variables and fns defined in the plugin function |
| 20:32.43 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:32.43 | raifbot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Utah_Dave's direction, hitting Utah_Dave and sending Utah_Dave flying into the closet. |
| 20:33.56 | ninnypants | mgeary: looks like you can store the object using the data api so you function would be something like http://pastebin.com/5t6BEg9x |
| 20:34.53 | ninnypants | then you would call $.stopwatch('#foo'); then later you could run commands by just doing $('#foo').stopwatch.reset(); or $('#foo').stopwatch.start(); |
| 20:35.53 | ninnypants | internals of it would have to be modded a decent amount but that could be the best way to do what you want |
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| 21:19.20 | wps | google used to have a cache link next to search results |
| 21:19.30 | wps | are they not providing that functionality anymore? |
| 21:20.10 | clintberry | wps: I have to put my mouse over the preview area |
| 21:20.15 | clintberry | then it shows the cache link |
| 21:21.01 | wps | hmm… I get the arrow to the right… hover ver it and it displays the preview |
| 21:21.08 | wps | but I don't see a cache link |
| 21:26.05 | TuxToaster | wps: a lot of pages don't offer caches now |
| 21:26.14 | wps | bummer |
| 21:26.22 | TuxToaster | they've specified tags or other things to request not to be cached |
| 21:26.27 | wps | ah |
| 21:26.31 | TuxToaster | so if you don't see it in the preview, google doesn't cache it |
| 21:26.35 | wps | I saved a link from yesterday and now the site is down |
| 21:26.43 | TuxToaster | (really annoying, isn't it?) |
| 21:27.14 | TuxToaster | it used to be that you could just go to offline browsing and pull up the page again, but seems that doesn't work very well anymore in most browsers |
| 21:27.15 | ninnypants | wps: have you tried archive.org? |
| 21:27.31 | wps | I hadn't. Thanks for the suggestion. |
| 21:54.32 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: ping |
| 21:55.59 | ninnypants | actually can anybody see anything wrong with this media query @media all and (max-width: 890px){} it should alter the page when the window is 890px wide but doesn't do anything until it's in the 870's |
| 22:00.43 | macnewbold | max-width? or min-width? |
| 22:02.06 | ninnypants | max I want the style applied when the window width is below 890px but not when it's above |
| 22:02.26 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: any other media queries? |
| 22:02.35 | ninnypants | nope |
| 22:02.56 | ninnypants | I'm just starting to work with things when they break as I scale the window down |
| 22:03.16 | ninnypants | maybe it has something to do with the scrollbar? |
| 22:03.20 | TuxToaster | should work... is there a margin or anything on the body? |
| 22:03.28 | TuxToaster | quite possibly, that's about 20px |
| 22:04.11 | ninnypants | so maybe that's it the body tag has a width of 890 but the window width is actually 900 or something like that |
| 22:08.48 | ninnypants | hmm maybe it's just a firefox thing |
| 22:09.05 | ninnypants | works fine in chrome |
| 22:12.26 | ninnypants | looks like it might be some FF extension |
| 22:44.29 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:44.29 | raifbot | declares kingsol a moron. |
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