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| 15:52.35 | hhatfield | $rlart |
| 15:52.35 | raifbot | executes killall -HUP mindjuju. |
| 15:52.43 | hhatfield | good morning! |
| 15:53.01 | Monnok | mornin! |
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| 15:53.05 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 15:53.05 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesn't need a default route, he wills his packets to the correct destination. |
| 15:53.10 | hhatfield | $8ball amidoingitright? |
| 15:53.10 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is decidedly so. |
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| 15:57.53 | captbrogers | I am not impressed with Namecheap |
| 15:58.04 | captbrogers | Starting to regret switching to them |
| 15:58.11 | hhatfield | howso? |
| 15:58.56 | captbrogers | I transferred my domain name to them, got emails saying it was completed and they have control. I changed the NS to point to Namecheap through their CP, and it appears to have been completed this morning |
| 15:59.28 | captbrogers | Yet I still cannot change DNS records for my domain, and their live chat just told me that to solve this problem I must purchase a hosting package if I want a website |
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| 16:01.08 | captbrogers | I wonder if you ment tosdomains.net |
| 16:01.48 | captbrogers | Seriously, this live chat person didn't read anything about my original question. |
| 16:01.58 | herlo | captbrogers: I did |
| 16:02.04 | herlo | thanks |
| 16:02.11 | hhatfield | tossdomans.net… is that where you throw brandon and his brothers around? |
| 16:02.32 | captbrogers | herlo: That's what I thought, seemed a bit odd so I stuck the 'i' in and it worked |
| 16:02.54 | herlo | lol, that's what I get for typing it out |
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| 16:22.59 | unum | I haven't had any trouble with name cheap |
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| 16:36.27 | captbrogers | Got things straightened out now. |
| 16:47.02 | mgeary | hrmm |
| 16:47.12 | mgeary | anyone here using Google Apps for email? |
| 16:47.42 | herlo | me |
| 16:47.58 | mgeary | i'm trying to help someone add an email address on a domain, and the MX record lookup makes it look like they're using Google Apps, but Google Apps says, "Sorry, you've reached a login page for a domain that isn't using Google Apps" |
| 16:48.19 | herlo | they haven't registered their domain with google apps then |
| 16:48.24 | herlo | at least that's what it's saying |
| 16:48.38 | mgeary | so how/why would the MX records be pointing to google? |
| 16:48.51 | herlo | because someone was told to do so and did |
| 16:49.08 | herlo | but you have to actually go to google apps for your domain and say 'I want to have this domain registered with google apps' |
| 16:49.21 | herlo | It doesn't require that your website be there or anything, just the service they want |
| 16:49.39 | mgeary | but there must be SOME place where they administer their email, since the MX records are pointing there |
| 16:49.46 | mgeary | where they *already administer... |
| 16:49.51 | herlo | http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/index.html |
| 16:50.05 | herlo | well for that, they would visit |
| 16:50.49 | herlo | http://google.com/a/theirdomain |
| 16:51.03 | herlo | if they can login with an admin address, they should be able to manage mail |
| 16:51.17 | herlo | if not, I would think they haven't started the google apps process. |
| 16:51.25 | mgeary | right. that's where i went when i got the message |
| 16:51.37 | mgeary | hrm.. you know, they may not actually have any emails on this domain |
| 16:51.45 | mgeary | someone might have pointed it to google and then never followed thru |
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| 17:26.36 | herlo | indeed |
| 17:27.06 | herlo | mgeary: so, did you follow up on night skiing? I think early next week would work, like Tuesday |
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| 17:45.10 | mgeary | herlo: that is caucus night, but i'm deliberating there with my wife |
| 17:45.40 | herlo | mgeary: k, I'm open to suggestions |
| 17:49.52 | itimber | just reading that one message there herlo…. as if moving at a high speed, down a slick slope, with large skewers on each appendage isn't enough; let's do it at a time when nobody can see anyone else, and the wild critters are out and about |
| 17:49.55 | itimber | sounds like a plan |
| 17:49.57 | itimber | :-) |
| 17:50.30 | herlo | itimber: well, there are flood lights, but sure :) |
| 17:50.46 | herlo | itimber: I got a new ski package and am anxious to get out on the slopes :) |
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| 17:51.10 | itimber | haha |
| 17:51.45 | clintberry | herlo: Mind if I ask what kind of skis you got? |
| 17:52.11 | itimber | herlo: I can understand that |
| 17:52.28 | itimber | how are the slopes this year? |
| 17:52.29 | herlo | clintberry: rossignols from a couple years back |
| 17:52.36 | clintberry | Sweet. |
| 17:52.53 | herlo | itimber: decent, not as good as last year. Though I think they will be better after the last two storms |
| 17:53.00 | herlo | clintberry: yeah, I'm excited. |
| 17:53.07 | herlo | bought them off ksl.com too |
| 17:53.48 | itimber | herlo: cool cool |
| 17:54.14 | herlo | :) |
| 17:54.30 | clintberry | herlo: Nice. I love Rossignol. Although I created the Bluehouseskis.com website and so I am going to try some locally made skis this year. |
| 17:55.47 | mahelious | couple more storms coming in this week. thursday will probably be nice. |
| 17:57.23 | herlo | mahelious: you ski/board? |
| 17:57.33 | herlo | we could do a uphpu ski day sometime soon |
| 17:57.46 | herlo | or night skiing at Brighton works well for stuff like that |
| 17:58.17 | mahelious | used to ski. tried going up to sundance last year with some rental stuff, was a pita. nothing was fitting very well. |
| 17:58.44 | mahelious | been thinking about getting some of my own stuff, maybe this fall. |
| 17:58.59 | herlo | mahelious: getting it now-ish will be way less expensive |
| 18:00.14 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:00.15 | raifbot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, jnbek!" and lops off jnbek's head. |
| 18:08.33 | itimber | Goodbye, …Mr. …Anderson |
| 18:08.46 | itimber | </smith> |
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| 18:12.33 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 18:15.58 | Bikerdan | Anyone here familiar with CareerStep? |
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| 18:36.28 | macnewbold | ~lolstats |
| 18:36.28 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3600. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 565 (15.7%), carmony -- 487 (13.5%), SunSparc -- 443 (12.3%) |
| 18:36.30 | macnewbold | ~flee |
| 18:36.30 | ibot | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 18:38.21 | TuxToaster | $lart macnewbold and ibot |
| 18:38.22 | raifbot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps macnewbold and ibot. |
| 18:40.09 | carmony | $lart macnewbold |
| 18:40.09 | raifbot | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down macnewbold's throat until macnewbold puts on 150lbs. |
| 19:06.59 | herlo | lol @ mahelious |
| 19:07.03 | herlo | or rather macnewbold |
| 19:08.01 | hhatfield | lol |
| 19:08.05 | hhatfield | ~lolstats hhatfield |
| 19:08.05 | ibot | hhatfield has said lol 2 times (0.1 %), ranked 50/104 (percentile: 48.1 %) |
| 19:08.12 | hhatfield | I'm on my way! |
| 19:08.26 | hhatfield | ~dance ibot ~dance |
| 19:08.26 | ibot | ibot ~dance, dance with me! Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' Elive, stayin' Elive |
| 19:10.42 | mgeary | ~boogie |
| 19:10.42 | ibot | ACTION dances like he used to in those dancing freakouts back in the old days |
| 19:10.43 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:11.00 | TuxToaster | you can safely assume that 80% of what you put after ~ is a command |
| 19:11.06 | hhatfield | ~reboot |
| 19:11.06 | ibot | Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$? |
| 19:11.09 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:11.15 | TuxToaster | ~lol |
| 19:11.15 | ibot | from memory, lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 19:11.32 | mgeary | ~stevejobsify hhatfield |
| 19:11.32 | ibot | ACTION drags hhatfield by the scruff on the neck and plants him front row center of an Apple presentation at the peak of Steve Jobs' keynote address, until hhatfield's eyes glaze over and he calms down (and starts wearing turtlenecks) |
| 19:12.02 | hhatfield | ~cap deploy |
| 19:12.07 | mgeary | ~nerdschool hhatfield |
| 19:12.07 | ibot | ACTION chains hhatfield to a molded-fiberglass all-in-one desk/chair, fills his backpack with sci-fi and fantasy novels, and plants him in Norm Bangerter's Elementary Physics class for re-indoctrination. |
| 19:12.44 | hhatfield | ~ath0 |
| 19:12.45 | ibot | rumour has it, ath0 is a command for hanging up a modem |
| 19:12.57 | hhatfield | ~ath1 |
| 19:13.00 | hhatfield | ~ata |
| 19:13.00 | ibot | rumour has it, ata is Analogue Terminal Adapter which provides an FXS and/or FXO and ethernet, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/ATA |
| 19:13.07 | hhatfield | ~wtf |
| 19:14.01 | mgeary | by the way, everyone. I know none(?) of us like Orrin Hatch, but my local rep, Chris Herrod apparently is going to run against him. I can assure you that whatever you're looking for that Hatch *isn't*, it's not Chris Herrod |
| 19:14.52 | hhatfield | ~ftr ibot didn't ask before pm'ing |
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| 19:22.01 | fungus | ~atdt |
| 19:22.06 | fungus | ~at&f |
| 19:29.49 | mindjuju | wow, is it just me or does this seem like a bad idea? |
| 19:29.50 | mindjuju | In addition, make sure the folder which contains TimThumb is set to 777. |
| 19:30.10 | TuxToaster | TimThumb bothers me... |
| 19:30.32 | mindjuju | BiL website = hax0r-fodder |
| 19:30.39 | mindjuju | as if today wasn't busy enough already |
| 19:30.41 | TuxToaster | saw an incident of someone hitting a shared server a couple weeks ago hitting one of the TimThumb generator scripts |
| 19:30.56 | TuxToaster | was taking down apache just by getting a small amount of traffic to it |
| 19:31.37 | mindjuju | i remember the good ole days of just using imagemagick |
| 19:33.00 | skinner | I could use some pointers. I have a page that makes an ajax call to the server that launches a script. The script can run anywhere from 1 - 90 minutes (more or less). The page displays a message that says "This may take a while..." and shows a spinny gif. Does anyone know a way I can have the page display some sort of feedback (i.e. doing task a.....doing task b....) until the process is complete? I cant guarantee the user is using an HTML5 compatible browse |
| 19:33.58 | skinner | I've also tried writing the message to a file on the filesystem, but hit the same issue as the session variable with it being locked while writing to it. |
| 19:34.28 | hhatfield | ~lart TimThumb |
| 19:34.28 | ibot | beats TimThumb senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 19:34.43 | mindjuju | transparent iframe with messages popping up? huge honking animated gif? |
| 19:35.06 | mindjuju | limh about animated gif idea |
| 19:35.31 | skinner | ya, that's already done. :( |
| 19:35.33 | skinner | not my choice |
| 19:35.36 | skinner | but I wanna change it |
| 19:35.55 | mindjuju | which one, the animated gif or the transparent iframe? |
| 19:36.33 | skinner | Well they disable the page and overlay a small div |
| 19:36.39 | skinner | and have a animated gif |
| 19:36.53 | skinner | just a horizontal barbers pole |
| 19:36.56 | skinner | basically |
| 19:36.57 | skinner | lol |
| 19:38.17 | hhatfield | are the tasks run sequentially? |
| 19:38.25 | hhatfield | and is it the same set of tasks each time? |
| 19:38.43 | hhatfield | skinner: ^ |
| 19:40.09 | ibot | stuffs hhatfield into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it, courtesy of hhatfield |
| 19:41.03 | hhatfield | so much for drive by $larts |
| 19:41.08 | skinner | the task is extracting a .zip on the server, reading a few of the files which are XML format, then making calls to a separate "file" server and sending any files (.jpg, .mp3, .docx, etc) in the .zip over to that file server. |
| 19:41.49 | hhatfield | and you want to show progress on each file transfer? |
| 19:41.59 | hhatfield | s/progress/status |
| 19:44.02 | mindjuju | so skinner, why don't you write status to a file like: file uploading, file uploaded, file unziped, file checking and then have the iframe fresh on the file like every 10 sec? |
| 19:45.55 | captbrogers | mindjuju |
| 19:45.57 | captbrogers | ... |
| 19:46.15 | skinner | I've also tried writing the message to a file on the filesystem, but hit the same issue as the session variable with it being locked while writing to it. |
| 19:46.21 | captbrogers | Sorry, going to explain further on that. The problem is the files are being processed so fast that the file lock doesn't release in time to check the status |
| 19:46.26 | skinner | The problem is a file gets uploaded within 1 second |
| 19:46.39 | skinner | sometimes a .zip file will have 600 or more files in it |
| 19:46.54 | mindjuju | oh i thought i read 1 - 90 minutes |
| 19:46.58 | skinner | yes |
| 19:47.04 | skinner | to process the whole .zip file |
| 19:47.11 | skinner | some of the .zip files are GB large |
| 19:47.11 | TuxToaster | urm, why did ibot do that lart? |
| 19:48.14 | TuxToaster | ah, lart via pm |
| 19:48.41 | TuxToaster | could be a drive by lart if you're not in the room when you request it |
| 19:49.35 | ibot | gives captbrogers a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades", courtesy of skinner |
| 19:51.06 | Bikerdan | Sorry to ask again, but people seem to be awake now. Does anyone have any experience with CareerStep? |
| 19:52.02 | TuxToaster | oh, thought I replied earlier. I haven't used it, but I found it odd that some of the stuff they offer seems to be dated |
| 19:52.08 | TuxToaster | like Microsoft Office 2007 training... |
| 19:53.18 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 19:53.19 | raifbot | Bill Gates lives in constant fear that Chuck Norris' PC will crash. |
| 19:53.38 | Bikerdan | Sorry. I'm more interested in the company, not the product. |
| 19:56.10 | captbrogers | ... |
| 19:56.26 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 19:57.14 | hhatfield | skinner: does the ajax ping to start the processing happen after the zip file upload is done? |
| 19:59.11 | TuxToaster | Bikerdan: FWIW the top google result for CareerStep reviews suggests that they weren't much help in finding placements, but otherwise not much info out there. |
| 19:59.53 | hhatfield | have you considered having that ping putting a job in a queue which could then be processed by a cron? |
| 20:00.04 | Bikerdan | Thx Tux |
| 20:00.14 | TuxToaster | at least if things go bad, particularly since it's an online business, you'd be likely to see a lot more negative comments in a search, so the lack of info probably hints that they aren't terrible or just not many people have used them. (I'd never heard of them until now) |
| 20:00.18 | Bikerdan | I see they've been on the Inc 5000 the last few years... |
| 20:00.20 | TuxToaster | at least something to think about :-) |
| 20:00.38 | Bikerdan | True |
| 20:01.52 | hhatfield | skinner: then use memcache (or something equivalent) to do the processing. This way, you're not having to deal with sessions at all while processing it and can then ping a status script that checks the values in the cache |
| 20:03.44 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:03.45 | raifbot | hits mahelious with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha. |
| 20:04.42 | skinner | hhatfield: the file upload happens before the ajax call |
| 20:08.33 | hhatfield | skinner: you can have the file upload drop the process request in the queue and return the id of the job to be able to ping it for status |
| 20:13.21 | skinner | hhatfield: The .zip file is already on the server at this point. |
| 20:13.33 | skinner | when the ajax call is made it processes the .zip file |
| 20:13.44 | skinner | and when I find the misc. files and save them to the 'file' server |
| 20:13.50 | skinner | it's using a 3rd part application |
| 20:13.56 | skinner | "Alfresco" i think |
| 20:14.15 | hhatfield | ok |
| 20:25.15 | hhatfield | carmony: maybe you can lend a hand here. is this something you would use a job queue for? |
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| 20:37.52 | carmony | hmm? |
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| 22:05.31 | TuxToaster | *tumbleweeds* |
| 22:11.17 | macnewbold | skinner: bottom line problem I think is that a web request is trying to run for 1-90 minutes, which doesn't usually fly too well. |
| 22:11.43 | macnewbold | if the ajax needs to trigger it, let it trigger it, but have the server side run the bulk of the work in the background, returning promptly, |
| 22:12.03 | macnewbold | then allowing progress checks to work, without having the session file be locked |
| 22:12.18 | macnewbold | each of your http requests will be short-running, less than a second |
| 22:12.33 | macnewbold | even though there's a big process running on the server that will take quite a while to complete |
| 22:15.47 | TuxToaster | I don't usually file my taxes… but when I do, I file them on October 31st. Stay delinquent, my friends. |
| 22:20.47 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 22:20.49 | raifbot | teaches john_anderson that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 22:23.47 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 22:31.59 | ninnypants | good song |
| 22:32.57 | mahelious | TIL 5.4 has been released. based on the new array nomenclature i will be calling it phpscript for the duration |
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| 22:43.53 | ninnypants | new array nomenclature? |
| 22:45.22 | ninnypants | ooh I like it |
| 22:45.32 | ninnypants | now if they would do the same thing with objects |
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| 22:53.02 | mahelious | i really like that you can now do something like $foo->getMyFavoriteArray()[$myfavoriteindex]; |
| 22:55.31 | mahelious | now we just need some kind of array generation ala $deck = ['hearts' => arr_series(1...52), etc. |
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| 23:39.36 | mahelious | hmm...no sqlsrv drivers for 5.4. boo |
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| 23:47.29 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 23:47.29 | raifbot | offers TuxToaster some herring. |
| 23:47.33 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 23:49.02 | TuxToaster | $lart himself |
| 23:49.02 | raifbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at himself. |
| 23:49.07 | TuxToaster | meh. |
| 23:49.08 | TuxToaster | $lart himself |
| 23:49.08 | raifbot | does a little 'renice 20 -u himself'. |
| 23:49.22 | TuxToaster | ~lart raifbot |
| 23:49.22 | ibot | eats raifbot's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 23:51.19 | Bikerdan | Anybody work with Teksystems before? |
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