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| 00:14.12 | fungus | aaarg, I can't believe i'm still getting Outlook J's these days. |
| 00:14.49 | mindjuju | what's an outlook j? |
| 00:14.57 | fungus | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2006/05/23/604741.aspx |
| 00:15.15 | fungus | when an Outlook user tries to type a smiley |
| 00:16.43 | mindjuju | that's prolly a feature |
| 00:16.46 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 00:16.57 | fungus | lol, it is. but it drives me crazy. |
| 00:19.16 | josephscott | $lart Outlook |
| 00:19.16 | raifbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Outlook feel it. |
| 00:19.31 | josephscott | $8ball is using Outlook a form of torture? |
| 00:19.31 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes - definitely. |
| 00:19.35 | josephscott | :-) |
| 00:21.19 | mindjuju | i wish there was a way i could hide all comments inside of notepad++ |
| 00:21.30 | mindjuju | that would make it transcend to uber cool |
| 00:22.55 | clintberry | mindjuju: Do you ususally develop in notepad++? |
| 00:23.14 | mindjuju | i'm starting to do everything in notepad++ |
| 00:23.29 | mindjuju | i REALLY like it for a text editor for winders |
| 00:23.57 | clintberry | interesting. I wonder if it has stayed pretty popular. I haven't used it for years |
| 00:23.58 | mindjuju | just the other day i found a plugin for notepad++ that allows for document monitor, realtime update for files open inside notepad++ |
| 00:24.11 | mindjuju | it's not tail, but you know, it's not bad |
| 00:24.23 | clintberry | Have you tried Sublime Text 2? |
| 00:24.54 | mindjuju | does it have file compare? |
| 00:24.56 | josephscott | ~vim++ |
| 00:25.04 | clintberry | Yeah, give it a go. It has a built in python interpreter for plugins and the community has gone crazy with it |
| 00:25.17 | clintberry | josephscott: it has vintage mode with vim keybindings. |
| 00:25.32 | josephscott | nice |
| 00:25.49 | clintberry | if you do download it, give this a read: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-text-2-tips-and-tricks/ |
| 00:26.30 | clintberry | it is a good starting point. I also blogged on it here: http://clintberry.com/2012/sublime-text-2-php-symfony-development/ |
| 00:26.33 | josephscott | I do lots of editing on remote systems via ssh, so not likely to switch to something else at this point |
| 00:26.49 | clintberry | josephscott: ah yes. Vim is so amazing for that |
| 00:27.47 | josephscott | ~karma vim |
| 00:27.47 | ibot | vim has karma of 17 |
| 00:27.58 | clintberry | josephscott: do you tote around a vimrc file to keep things consistent? |
| 00:28.15 | josephscott | a small one, nothing too fancy |
| 00:28.53 | clintberry | very cool. I wish I was a vim master, but every time I begin, I am so slow that I go back. One day I will just have to work through it. I know it will make me faster in the long run |
| 00:29.09 | jsmith | clintberry: It's worth the effort, trust me... |
| 00:29.13 | josephscott | in truth I probably only know a dozen or so vim command by heart, the ones I use over and over, the rest I end up looking up to remind me |
| 00:29.50 | josephscott | many years ago I worked in an IT dept. where the unix admin made us learn enough vi to get by |
| 00:29.58 | clintberry | jsmith: Yeah, I should just do it. I turn on vim mode in sublime text sometimes. I'll enable it for tomorrow |
| 00:30.03 | josephscott | "if the system is hanging by a thread, vi will still work" |
| 00:30.10 | clintberry | ha, that is awesome |
| 00:30.31 | josephscott | so learning it enabled us to bring a system back from the brink of death |
| 00:30.37 | josephscott | I hated it at the time :-) |
| 00:30.54 | josephscott | oh no |
| 00:31.16 | josephscott | that was 17 years ago |
| 00:31.16 | jsmith | It's probably the one thing that I learned in college that I use every day :-) |
| 00:31.45 | jsmith | josephscott: Yeah, that sounds about right... |
| 00:31.59 | josephscott | some where around 94/95 |
| 00:32.15 | mindjuju | that was 17 years ago? |
| 00:32.51 | clintberry | 95 was indeed 17 years ago. Weird to think of it that way |
| 00:34.24 | mindjuju | scary |
| 00:34.35 | clintberry | If you are ever looking to make vim more of an IDE, I really like SPF13: https://github.com/spf13/spf13-vim |
| 00:34.52 | josephscott | now I'm having flash backs of VMS, FreeBSD, and Windows 3.11 |
| 00:35.40 | josephscott | and now dinner is on, I'm out |
| 00:35.45 | mindjuju | i remember saving up for months to buy my dad a 500MB hdd for $200 |
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| 15:14.03 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 15:14.03 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can strangle you with a cordless phone. |
| 15:14.10 | Monnok | got that one yesterday |
| 15:14.15 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 15:14.16 | raifbot | Chuck Norris was ordered to go to court once but the judge never showed up. |
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| 16:32.41 | hhatfield | awake is the time after caffeine and before sleep? |
| 16:33.09 | mindjuju | sounds about right |
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| 16:46.42 | captbrogers | today seems like it will be full of facepalms |
| 16:47.15 | mindjuju | that was wednesday + thursday for me |
| 16:47.25 | mindjuju | VERY bad days with major rollbacks |
| 16:47.32 | mindjuju | (not my fault, honest!!) |
| 16:47.51 | hhatfield | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.52 | captbrogers | I just have the feeling that today will be long and I can't wait to go home |
| 16:48.00 | captbrogers | hhatfield: seems legit. |
| 16:48.47 | mindjuju | i've about finished picking the pieces from my side |
| 16:52.22 | josephscott | $8ball will it be a very long day? |
| 16:52.22 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes. |
| 16:52.26 | josephscott | :-( |
| 16:52.38 | captbrogers | sadpanda |
| 16:52.42 | hhatfield | $8ball but it will still only be 24 hours, right? |
| 16:52.42 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is certain. |
| 16:53.15 | hhatfield | $8ball but it will feel longer? |
| 16:53.15 | raifbot | hhatfield - Without a doubt. |
| 16:53.28 | hhatfield | $8ball should we just go home now? |
| 16:53.29 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is certain. |
| 16:53.30 | captbrogers | Curse you 8ball and your precision answers |
| 16:54.01 | hhatfield | $lart $8ball |
| 16:54.01 | raifbot | sends a legion of lawyers after $8ball's head. |
| 16:54.46 | josephscott | it's an 8ball, I think the only thing it has is a head shape ;-) |
| 16:58.34 | hhatfield | then the lawyers will take the whole thing! |
| 16:58.40 | hhatfield | go get 'em! |
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| 17:00.01 | josephscott | $save $8ball |
| 17:00.02 | raifbot | asks the President to please pardon $8ball |
| 17:01.11 | mindjuju | hhatfield - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msEhj2NuuPM |
| 17:01.48 | mindjuju | when you s aid about the lawyers getting the whole thing, just reminded me of this scene |
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| 17:02.06 | hhatfield | haha |
| 17:02.43 | hhatfield | $8ball do you consider yourself and adam sandler kind of 8ball? |
| 17:02.44 | raifbot | hhatfield - My reply is no. |
| 17:02.57 | hhatfield | $8ball bob barker then? |
| 17:02.57 | raifbot | hhatfield - It is certain. |
| 17:03.16 | hhatfield | lawyers better look out |
| 17:05.33 | captbrogers | I'm not sure how those two things are connected |
| 17:12.43 | josephscott | more good stuff for redis http://antirez.com/post/redis-2.6-is-near.html /cc carmony |
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| 17:21.51 | macnewbold | ~seen clintberry |
| 17:21.57 | ibot | clintberry <436e7496@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.110.116.150> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 16h 47m 22s ago, saying: 'If you are ever looking to make vim more of an IDE, I really like SPF13: https://github.com/spf13/spf13-vim'. |
| 17:24.12 | influx | Contract ending today. |
| 17:24.19 | influx | Looking for some interim work. |
| 17:29.33 | jsmith | influx: Oh? What kind of work? |
| 17:31.33 | Monnok | dangerous question |
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| 17:33.34 | influx | hah |
| 17:34.10 | captbrogers | If by "taking care of" you mean making sure someone comes and gives me a massage then I'm all for it |
| 17:34.27 | Monnok | ya but, man hands... |
| 17:34.37 | captbrogers | Not influx, a girl |
| 17:34.42 | captbrogers | Can't do man hands |
| 17:36.44 | influx | I have dainty hands, yo. |
| 17:37.00 | captbrogers | I...don't... |
| 17:37.05 | influx | What? |
| 17:37.18 | captbrogers | I can't even answer that |
| 17:37.41 | influx | Anywho, yeah. Looking for work. Might take next week off, but I'll definitely be around after that. |
| 17:42.19 | hhatfield | looking for full time or contract? |
| 17:42.43 | hhatfield | (php work, not massages) |
| 17:42.45 | influx | Depends on the location. |
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| 17:43.05 | influx | pm |
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| 18:31.33 | josephscott | this seems a little strange http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.v8js.php |
| 18:32.48 | clintberry | josephscott: That does seem strange. I wonder what a good use case would be... |
| 18:34.15 | macnewbold | http://www.php.net/manual/en/v8js.examples.php |
| 18:34.19 | tierra | I'm sure there's tons... pretty much anything you might consider using node.js for, but need some control over through your PHP application |
| 18:34.47 | macnewbold | clintberry: was it March you wanted to present, or later? Oddly enough, I have a second volunteer and need to keep straight who is doing which meeting. |
| 18:35.29 | clintberry | macnewbold: I am very flexible. You tell me when you need me and I will be there. |
| 18:35.59 | clintberry | tierra: But the integration doesn't look asynchronous, so doesn't that make the appeal drop significantly? |
| 18:38.25 | tierra | I don't mean using it *AS* a node.js server... I mean using it for anything you might be tying into a node.js server, but don't actually need node.js to perform |
| 18:39.31 | clintberry | tierra: I see. I thing I will go look around on this one and see if anyone is using it for some projects. |
| 18:41.09 | macnewbold | clintberry: looks like the other guy would prefer april, even though he offered for march. If you're good with March, i'll have him wait a month, since you asked first. |
| 18:41.44 | clintberry | Okay, I will plan on March then. |
| 18:42.00 | clintberry | Advanced PHP Deployment Strategies |
| 18:42.49 | hhatfield | clintberry: can I get slides for that once you have them? I won't be at the meeting. |
| 18:43.24 | clintberry | hhatfield: I am building my slides with impress.js, but I will post them to my blog after. |
| 18:43.38 | hhatfield | clintberry: gracias |
| 19:23.33 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 19:23.33 | raifbot | raises middle finger to tierra. |
| 19:23.41 | josephscott | hmmm, that bot got rude |
| 19:24.07 | hhatfield | $lart raifbot |
| 19:24.07 | raifbot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in hhatfield's direction, hitting hhatfield and sending hhatfield flying into the closet. |
| 19:24.25 | hhatfield | $save me |
| 19:24.25 | raifbot | runs into a burning building and saves me from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 19:25.47 | romanovic | Wow, what a pillow fight, if it resulted in a building burning down |
| 19:25.59 | romanovic | $8ball did raifbot start the fire? |
| 19:25.59 | raifbot | romanovic - Ask again later. |
| 19:28.23 | josephscott | $8ball can you give a direct answer when asked? |
| 19:28.23 | raifbot | josephscott - My reply is no. |
| 19:29.34 | josephscott | figures |
| 19:30.12 | hhatfield | $8ball did I start the fire? |
| 19:30.12 | raifbot | hhatfield - Outlook not so good. |
| 19:30.24 | hhatfield | $8ball should I seek legal counsel? |
| 19:30.24 | raifbot | hhatfield - My sources say no. |
| 19:30.59 | josephscott | $8ball did Billy Joel start the fire? |
| 19:31.00 | raifbot | josephscott - Yes. |
| 19:31.06 | hhatfield | I knew he was lying |
| 19:31.29 | hhatfield | $lart Billy Joel |
| 19:31.29 | raifbot | chops Billy Joel in half with a free Solaris 7 CD. |
| 19:36.06 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 19:36.06 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can sit in the corner of a circular room |
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| 20:23.05 | josephscott | $lart spammers |
| 20:23.05 | raifbot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking spammers's head off. |
| 20:31.11 | wps | dear job candidates: PDF over DOC, please |
| 20:31.57 | hhatfield | $lart DOC |
| 20:31.57 | raifbot | flings poo at DOC. |
| 20:32.23 | hhatfield | $8ball isn't that redundant? |
| 20:32.23 | raifbot | hhatfield - Yes. |
| 20:35.53 | captbrogers | I think I'm going to have to resort to an energy drink |
| 20:36.02 | wps | don't do it! |
| 20:36.30 | captbrogers | I drank some Pepsi earlier but I feel like I'm going to fall asleep at my desk |
| 20:36.43 | mindjuju | so wps, tell us about this physician on campus |
| 20:36.46 | mindjuju | and the gym |
| 20:36.54 | mindjuju | sounds like google but here in utah |
| 20:36.56 | wps | full-size basketball court |
| 20:37.00 | captbrogers | Where is this? |
| 20:37.05 | mindjuju | where wps works |
| 20:37.09 | mindjuju | andhe's hiring |
| 20:37.09 | captbrogers | Which is... |
| 20:37.11 | wps | gym (weight room, treadmills, etc) |
| 20:37.14 | wps | Vivint |
| 20:37.16 | captbrogers | Ah |
| 20:37.24 | wps | onsite, company physician |
| 20:37.34 | captbrogers | How are they? I worked with someone at Overstock who left Vivint, can't remember his name though |
| 20:37.35 | mindjuju | what if you don't like him / her |
| 20:37.37 | wps | free (no copay or anything) for you and your dependents |
| 20:37.51 | wps | you're still welcome to see your own doctor |
| 20:37.54 | wps | you'll just have a copay there |
| 20:38.08 | mindjuju | sounds like a fun place to work |
| 20:38.17 | wps | we still offer standard, full medical, dental, and vision coverage |
| 20:38.21 | wps | it's great |
| 20:38.45 | mindjuju | i drove by there the other day on my way to the Utah Speciality hospital around the corner from there |
| 20:38.47 | wps | our building: http://media.vivint.com/www.vivint.com/en/images/company/outsidebuilding.jpg |
| 20:38.48 | mindjuju | it's a nice location |
| 20:39.11 | captbrogers | In Provo/Orem area or up in SLC? |
| 20:39.19 | mindjuju | provo |
| 20:39.19 | wps | center street in Orem |
| 20:39.23 | mindjuju | oh, orem |
| 20:39.25 | wps | (technically provo) |
| 20:39.27 | wps | the cafe: http://media.vivint.com/www.vivint.com/en/images/company/careers-landing-thumb_03.jpg |
| 20:39.30 | xtrementl | damn that's a long ways away |
| 20:39.40 | wps | ~lart xtrementl |
| 20:39.40 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, xtrementl, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 20:39.54 | captbrogers | That got uncomfortable fast... |
| 20:40.12 | xtrementl | yeah.. onsite physician huh? |
| 20:40.26 | wps | ibot helps us keep this channel in shape |
| 20:40.38 | xtrementl | lol.. yeah nah looks like a nice building tho |
| 20:40.48 | mindjuju | d00d xtrementl you think that's cool, wps tell him about costa rica |
| 20:40.53 | wps | awesome offices: http://www.vivint.com/careers/culture |
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| 20:41.29 | mindjuju | man that reminds me of ebay when it was cool |
| 20:41.49 | wps | free lunch every day and all the soda you can drown yourself with |
| 20:41.56 | xtrementl | yeah we got that already |
| 20:42.30 | josephscott | so they want you to bulk up on liquid calories ;-) |
| 20:42.46 | xtrementl | lol.. makes the doctor/health insur. worth it |
| 20:43.50 | josephscott | on site doctor to tell you not to drink the on site soda ;-) |
| 20:44.13 | mindjuju | limh |
| 20:44.15 | captbrogers | Well he doesn't have much of a job if you are all healthy |
| 20:44.33 | josephscott | haha |
| 20:44.34 | xtrementl | haha |
| 20:44.42 | wps | it's a she ;) |
| 20:44.59 | mindjuju | wps, josephscott jealous cause he no have anybody around to work with but himself :( |
| 20:45.30 | mindjuju | course legend has it he has some SERIOUS mac equipment to work on, but thats another story |
| 20:45.30 | captbrogers | Her job then |
| 20:45.33 | josephscott | what, I go hang out at places for work sometimes |
| 20:45.46 | josephscott | just not very often :-) |
| 20:45.54 | mindjuju | well, you have other perks |
| 20:46.00 | mindjuju | like flying to Auckland for a conf |
| 20:46.19 | mindjuju | or at least i'm assuming it was a conference |
| 20:46.25 | captbrogers | I really do wish I could find an employer to send me around the world for conferences once a year |
| 20:46.42 | mindjuju | you should talk to jsmith, he's the king of travel |
| 20:47.04 | mindjuju | or utah_dave of work+travel+scuba |
| 20:48.39 | captbrogers | Well, I don't like to do it often |
| 20:49.34 | captbrogers | Just once or maybe twice a year |
| 20:51.00 | mindjuju | so anyway wps is hiring for a front-end guy and i think a mobile app guy |
| 20:51.23 | captbrogers | I loved jQuery conf, learned some really good things from it so it makes me want to go to a PHP conference. Just don't want to be put in a hotel in the ghetto where the advice I'm given is to not go out after dark |
| 20:51.41 | wps | job: http://www.authenticjobs.com/jobs/11841/senior-front-end-mobile-web-application-developer |
| 20:51.47 | captbrogers | Yeah, I think I saw an opening for a lead front-end, but I'm happy where I am and started less than 6 months ago |
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| 20:54.04 | josephscott | mindjuju: it was to hang out and work with the rest of my team for a week |
| 20:54.16 | captbrogers | I don't have more than 1 year experience as a front-end, but I feel like I know everything on that list |
| 20:54.21 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 20:54.24 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 20:54.33 | josephscott | I haven't been to a conf in probably a year or two |
| 20:54.52 | mindjuju | don't get me wrong, i LOVE my job and fits perfectly with life goals right now |
| 20:55.22 | mindjuju | it's prolly second funnest job in my life, first being the summer at college when i was security guard and had a legit reason to wake up at 2p and sleep at 8a |
| 20:55.39 | mindjuju | in a SMALL college town where there had been a murder like 30 years before, low crime, etc etc |
| 20:55.59 | mindjuju | essentially after 10p, i just played decent over Kali for the rest of the night |
| 20:56.02 | mindjuju | man that was the life |
| 20:56.11 | josephscott | haha |
| 20:56.23 | mindjuju | this job, tons of work, but lots of fun |
| 21:05.23 | josephscott | le sigh |
| 21:06.14 | josephscott | $lart multi-year projects |
| 21:06.14 | raifbot | forces multi-year projects to use Outlook Express. |
| 21:06.25 | josephscott | yeah, that would make sense :-) |
| 21:08.42 | josephscott | and while I'm at it |
| 21:08.45 | josephscott | $lart NFS |
| 21:08.45 | raifbot | takes NFS to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 21:23.43 | jsmith | josephscott: What, you don't think that NFS 4.1 and pNFS are the answer? |
| 21:24.49 | josephscott | $lart NFS |
| 21:24.50 | raifbot | declares NFS a moron. |
| 21:30.16 | fungus | Is there another well supported network file system that is any better? |
| 21:30.28 | fungus | no? well, then tough, you're stuck w/ nfs |
| 21:31.33 | josephscott | $lart NFS |
| 21:31.33 | raifbot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats NFS until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with. |
| 21:31.38 | josephscott | I will not stop :-) |
| 21:32.08 | josephscott | yes, unfortunately I've been 'stuck' with NFS for many years :-( |
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| 21:39.42 | wps | FYI: we just had two more positions open up |
| 21:43.34 | captbrogers | Because of need for people or others left? |
| 21:43.43 | wps | need for more people |
| 21:43.50 | captbrogers | That's always a good thing |
| 21:53.30 | hhatfield | $save NFS |
| 21:53.31 | raifbot | runs into a burning building and saves NFS from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 21:55.19 | josephscott | no, no it isn't :-) |
| 21:57.04 | wps | who is raifbot? |
| 21:57.19 | wps | ~raifbot |
| 21:57.19 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, raifbot is lol |
| 21:57.33 | wps | $raifbot |
| 21:57.44 | wps | ibot, kill raifbot |
| 21:57.44 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized pseudoquark gun at raifbot |
| 21:58.58 | josephscott | just a simple bot I wrote awhile back |
| 21:59.27 | wps | ibot, put that gun away and call an ambulence |
| 22:01.55 | carmony | lol |
| 22:02.18 | carmony | mindjuju: hey, is there a hotel discount for UTOSC this year? |
| 22:02.46 | hhatfield | ibot, kill ibot |
| 22:02.46 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse neutrino gun at ibot |
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| 22:16.22 | josephscott | $lart ibot |
| 22:16.23 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
| 22:16.41 | hhatfield | ~save myself |
| 22:16.42 | ibot | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves myself from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 22:17.11 | hhatfield | ~roulette |
| 22:17.11 | ibot | ACTION watches hhatfield pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:17.21 | captbrogers | ~roulette |
| 22:17.21 | ibot | ACTION watches captbrogers pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:17.24 | captbrogers | whew |
| 22:17.54 | hhatfield | I bet carmony would lose at roulette |
| 22:18.39 | clintberry | it would be funny if it kicked you if you loast |
| 22:18.42 | carmony | lol |
| 22:18.44 | clintberry | lost |
| 22:18.54 | carmony | ~roulette |
| 22:18.54 | ibot | ACTION watches carmony pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:19.09 | clintberry | ~roulette |
| 22:19.09 | ibot | ACTION watches clintberry pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:19.13 | carmony | hhatfield: you coming to tek12 this year? |
| 22:19.18 | hhatfield | nope |
| 22:19.22 | mindjuju | reminds me of the Deer Hunter |
| 22:19.37 | hhatfield | carmony: we have to take turns going to conferences each year |
| 22:19.43 | hhatfield | carmony: this is not my year |
| 22:19.43 | carmony | ah |
| 22:19.59 | carmony | hhatfield: Will any of your co-workers be there? |
| 22:20.30 | hhatfield | carmony: not sure. it hasn't all been worked out yet |
| 22:20.43 | carmony | well, if they do, I'll keep an eye out for 'em :P |
| 22:20.59 | hhatfield | you're presenting 2 talks, right? |
| 22:21.03 | carmony | yup |
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| 22:21.10 | hhatfield | nice |
| 22:21.34 | carmony | lot cheaper to go as a speaker :P |
| 22:22.41 | hhatfield | I bet |
| 22:22.53 | hhatfield | which other conferences do you go to? |
| 22:23.12 | macnewbold | i highly recommend it - for giving a couple of talks several years ago, i got basically a free trip to chicago for me and my wife, and free entrance to the conference |
| 22:23.26 | macnewbold | then later they had me write articles for the magazine based on the talks |
| 22:25.35 | hhatfield | anybody here use joomla recently? |
| 22:25.45 | captbrogers | Not since 2007 |
| 22:26.03 | hhatfield | they want me to evaluate it for a new project at work |
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| 22:43.54 | xtrementl | have you considered alternatives? |
| 22:44.55 | xtrementl | it's probably better now.. it's been a while since I played with it, but back then didn't like it |
| 22:45.07 | xtrementl | but i also don't like drupal and it works well for others so .. ya know :) |
| 22:45.40 | hhatfield | well.. I think drupal and wordpress would be the other two alternatives |
| 22:45.41 | clintberry | xtrementl: What would you recommend for CMS? |
| 22:46.29 | captbrogers | What are you trying to accomplish with the CMS? |
| 22:47.42 | hhatfield | being able to have non-devs get sites up quickly |
| 22:48.07 | hhatfield | and then add some custom plugins to get content from various sites |
| 22:48.54 | xtrementl | what kinda sites? |
| 22:49.02 | captbrogers | I was just going to ask that |
| 22:50.00 | macnewbold | *cough* wordpress *cough* |
| 22:50.20 | hhatfield | we want to play around with some news aggregate sites |
| 22:50.23 | xtrementl | I haven't kept up with the CMS these days. But I've heard good things about ExpressionEngine for the publishing content for ease of use. Always have Wordpress and MovableType. Drupal and Joomla seem to be used for a lot bigger stuff |
| 22:50.45 | xtrementl | given I haven't used much professionally in a while, take my word with a grain of sal |
| 22:50.46 | xtrementl | salt* |
| 22:51.10 | hhatfield | last time I took a grain of sal, it almost killed me |
| 22:51.15 | xtrementl | lol |
| 22:51.17 | hhatfield | ~lart a grain of sal |
| 22:51.17 | ibot | slaps a grain of sal around with a large trout |
| 22:51.20 | josephscott | I know there is at least one really big WordPress site ;-) |
| 22:51.45 | xtrementl | :D yeah i've seen it power some cool stuff as well |
| 22:52.15 | hhatfield | how big is really big? |
| 22:53.08 | josephscott | top 10 in US http://www.quantcast.com/top-sites/US/1#10 |
| 22:53.45 | josephscott | and that doesn't even count mapped domains |
| 22:54.15 | captbrogers | Anyone here know someone who can do C++ GUI work? |
| 22:54.20 | josephscott | nearly 64M unique people per month |
| 22:54.38 | romanovic | captbrogers: what platform? |
| 22:55.18 | captbrogers | wxWidgets perhaps? Not really looking for a specific one, but I'm assuming windows would be good, linux as well if possible |
| 22:55.28 | josephscott | 3B page views a month |
| 22:55.53 | captbrogers | Maybe I can just throw out the idea and someone can tell me if it's been done |
| 22:55.59 | clintberry | and almost 1 in 4 new websites last year were made with wordpress... http://wordpress.org/news/2011/08/state-of-the-word/ |
| 22:56.17 | clintberry | as of august, but still. |
| 22:56.47 | captbrogers | http://codecanyon.net/item/nettuts-structurer-pro/300801?WT.ac=category_item&WT.seg_1=category_item&WT.z_author=NetPremium |
| 22:56.51 | captbrogers | But for Windows/Linux |
| 22:56.53 | josephscott | hhatfield: not the biggest site in the world to be sure, but I'd put in the realm of really big |
| 22:57.48 | hhatfield | the question is… does wordpress.com run wordpress? :) |
| 22:58.35 | captbrogers | Yes |
| 22:58.39 | josephscott | yep, worlds largest install of wordpress is wordpress.com |
| 22:58.58 | josephscott | all of wordpress.com runs on one install (code base) of wordpress |
| 22:59.18 | mahelious | clintberry: knowing that makes me want to live on this planet a little bit less |
| 22:59.19 | josephscott | across hundreds of servers in multiple DCs across the US |
| 22:59.28 | clintberry | josephscott: Awesome! I never knew that. So are they using a custom multi-site type plugin |
| 22:59.41 | clintberry | mahelious: ha, WP hater? |
| 22:59.52 | josephscott | it uses the MS feature in current versions of WP |
| 23:00.49 | mahelious | i wouldnt describe mysqlf as a hater, but theres plenty of better engines out there. 25% is pretty huge for a single framework. |
| 23:01.04 | mahelious | s/mysqlf/myself |
| 23:01.05 | hhatfield | what does mysql have to do with it? |
| 23:01.18 | josephscott | WordPress uses mysql to store data |
| 23:01.30 | clintberry | mahelious: I can't complain, I made a lot of money as a freelancer with wordpress, and the more popular it gets, the more work there is :-) |
| 23:02.28 | clintberry | I really want to integrate a SaaS model into wordpress via a plugin of some sort. I am still hashing out some ideas, but I think it could work |
| 23:03.43 | hhatfield | $lart mysqlf |
| 23:03.43 | raifbot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at mysqlf. |
| 23:04.11 | carmony | hhatfield: sorry, back, I'm going to UTOS |
| 23:04.35 | carmony | hhatfield: and I might go to ZendCon, we'll see |
| 23:04.45 | hhatfield | I'm going to see if I convince them to let me get to UTOS |
| 23:05.03 | carmony | its definitely worth it |
| 23:05.08 | macnewbold | ~utos++ |
| 23:05.11 | carmony | very inexpensive and good talks :) |
| 23:05.49 | hhatfield | cool |
| 23:06.44 | hhatfield | I talked w/ my boss and he thinks hosting a monthly hack-a-thon here at Triad would be good idea. We just have to check on parking logistics |
| 23:15.55 | herlo | hhatfield: is that downtown at the Triad building? |
| 23:16.03 | hhatfield | yes |
| 23:16.14 | herlo | That would be cool! I'd come down for that for sure. |
| 23:16.19 | herlo | especially if I am in town :) |
