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| 18:09.14 | TuxToaster | $lart ibot |
| 18:09.14 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
| 18:09.30 | macnewbold | i <3 mjolnir |
| 18:10.12 | carmony | I want to start a software project called Mjolnir |
| 18:23.33 | influx | yo doodz |
| 18:23.59 | influx | sort of related: Valhalla Rising. Good flick. |
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| 18:50.29 | mindjuju | some days i think i'm seriously behind the times, what is this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=34x6m-ahGIo Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter? |
| 18:56.53 | stderr_ | it's based on a novel that came out a couple years ago |
| 18:58.09 | clintberry | mindjuju: Behind the times, or trying to figure out why anyone is taking that idea seriously? |
| 19:00.10 | stderr- | the concept is actually pretty interesting, actually. the book is pretty good |
| 19:00.19 | stderr- | - actually |
| 19:00.34 | mindjuju | i wish i knew what the real differences between producer and director are, it says producer is Tim burton |
| 19:01.27 | stderr- | producer obtains the rights and do a lot of the hiring |
| 19:01.51 | stderr- | director is solely concerned with making the film, producer takes the film from birth to big screen |
| 19:02.33 | mindjuju | ah |
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| 19:05.26 | stderr- | mindjuju: well this involves a lot of Burton's new proteges so it'll probably be very Burton-esque |
| 19:05.48 | stderr- | the guy who wrote the book and is writing the screenplay for Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is also writing Burton's adaptation of Dark Shadows |
| 19:11.13 | influx | IE8 can render as IE7 but still identify as IE8, right? |
| 19:14.19 | TuxToaster | I think so |
| 19:14.24 | TuxToaster | Compatibility Mode |
| 19:17.06 | ninnypants | influx: kind of |
| 19:18.11 | ninnypants | it will switch into compatibility mode if there isn't a doctype or if something come before the doctype, but if you switch the version in the developer tools it will identify as IE& |
| 19:18.14 | ninnypants | 7 |
| 19:29.45 | TuxToaster | ~lart IE |
| 19:29.45 | ibot | plops IE into a giant vat of herring |
| 19:30.05 | TuxToaster | ~lart Quirks Mode |
| 19:30.05 | ibot | whips out his power stapler and staples Quirks Mode's foot to the floor |
| 19:30.10 | TuxToaster | meh. |
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| 20:27.26 | kendsnyder | Hello all! I have an app that checks a gmail inbox every 4 minutes, processes messages, and then archives them. Is there any kind of gmail api where I can tell google to hit a url anytime an email is received? So instead of checking every 4 minutes, I only check when gmail tells me a new message has arrived. |
| 20:28.29 | mindjuju | i wonder how google notifier works |
| 20:32.09 | kendsnyder | notifier, yes. Googling led me to one option: Keep an open connection to Gtalk using XMPP: http://code.google.com/apis/talk/jep_extensions/gmail.html |
| 20:32.41 | kendsnyder | thanks. i had never heard of notifier |
| 20:33.08 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 20:37.50 | carmony | haha, this is super awesome -- http://www.thesouptv.com/latest/battle-of-the-cover-bands/293466 |
| 20:38.09 | mindjuju | delusions of grandeur - http://screencast.com/t/7b0D9rbr1Oqf ; i should check it out though, last time i did online MS office was really a hdd in the sky and you needed desktop apps to use |
| 20:39.51 | fungus | kendsnyder, have you considered having Gmail just forward all your mail to an email address on your server and just process each message as it comes. |
| 20:40.49 | kendsnyder | oh interesting. how do you setup the server to notify a script locally? |
| 20:41.05 | fungus | procmail |
| 20:41.09 | mindjuju | fungus is wise in the ways of the force |
| 20:41.13 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 20:41.38 | fungus | have your local MTA deliver to procmail, and you can write a very simple procmail config to pass the email to your script |
| 20:42.04 | kendsnyder | http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?topic=300634.0 |
| 20:42.05 | kendsnyder | :0: |
| 20:42.05 | kendsnyder | * ^To.whatever@foo.com |
| 20:42.05 | kendsnyder | | /usr/local/bin/script.php |
| 20:42.12 | fungus | exactly |
| 20:43.37 | kendsnyder | so if I had a variable number of email addresses, how could I call the same script for all of them but find out which email address it was |
| 20:43.52 | kendsnyder | i guess i'm asking what gets piped to script.php in the example above? |
| 20:44.23 | fungus | either by reading the To: header in your php script |
| 20:44.28 | fungus | or passing an argument |
| 20:45.06 | kendsnyder | so it gets passed the entire raw email with headers and all? |
| 20:45.19 | fungus | yup |
| 20:45.44 | kendsnyder | and it will get triggered exactly once for each email? |
| 20:45.51 | fungus | yup |
| 20:45.53 | macnewbold | yup |
| 20:46.34 | fungus | Possible drawback, if you get tons of email (1,000s an hour) it could eat a lot of resources. Lots of forking. |
| 20:46.52 | macnewbold | yes, things go downhill when you get too forked |
| 20:46.54 | kendsnyder | better than checking 100s of emails every 4 minutes :) |
| 20:46.56 | fungus | each script run is a separate process, two actually (procmail and php) |
| 20:47.18 | kendsnyder | the php script should take maybe 50ms tops |
| 20:47.18 | macnewbold | if a slight delay is okay, |
| 20:47.34 | macnewbold | you could just forward the mail, then periodically check the box for new mail, and process it |
| 20:48.04 | macnewbold | then you'd only hit gmail when there was something needing to be done |
| 20:48.07 | fungus | Generally it's not a problem until you get to thousands a minute. |
| 20:49.19 | kendsnyder | i'm looking at a web page that says: "Note that I use :0: for the first line; this sets up a "lockfile" so two procmails don't try to write to the same file simultaneously (that would be a very bad thing). Hopefully this makes setting up a .procmailrc easier for you." |
| 20:50.00 | kendsnyder | but in this case, we don't care if script.php is running at the same time as the previous script.php is running, right? |
| 20:50.18 | fungus | then change it to :0 |
| 20:50.26 | fungus | the trailing colon means create a lockfile |
| 20:50.33 | kendsnyder | thanks |
| 20:52.34 | fungus | procmail is very powerful in itself. As you experiment you may find the need to add other rules to it, that may filter out some messages. |
| 20:54.15 | fungus | http://pm-doc.sourceforge.net/doc/ |
| 20:54.30 | fungus | that is very good if you want to do more. |
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| 21:48.46 | TuxToaster | I just love how people perceive a development bottleneck and think they can throw more people at it to solve it |
| 21:49.05 | TuxToaster | especially when there's really not an issue to begin with |
| 21:49.28 | carmony | hrm, I hope my Database doesn't hate me.... |
| 21:49.29 | carmony | http://screencast.com/t/0hRPugAoIt |
| 21:49.49 | TuxToaster | wowza |
| 21:50.00 | mindjuju | dat coo! |
| 21:50.29 | TuxToaster | carmony: so the oranges are REPLACE INTOs |
| 21:50.31 | TuxToaster | ? |
| 21:50.36 | carmony | yup |
| 21:50.45 | carmony | importing some data :P |
| 21:50.49 | TuxToaster | lovely |
| 21:50.50 | carmony | 8 million rows to be exact |
| 21:52.17 | mindjuju | sounds like people have been calling CPS and local police on that guy that shot up his daughter laptop - police seem to have ^5 him - http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/youtube-dad-who-shot-daughters-laptop-gets-visit-a/nHbcR/ |
| 21:52.18 | jsmith | carmony: Did you drop your indices, then import the data, then rebuild? |
| 21:52.26 | carmony | hrm.... no.... |
| 21:52.29 | carmony | :P |
| 21:53.35 | jsmith | carmony: Just curious... |
| 21:54.16 | TuxToaster | ~jsmith++ |
| 21:54.32 | jsmith | Yay for karma points! |
| 21:54.55 | TuxToaster | $lart carmony's database |
| 21:54.55 | raifbot | does a little 'dpkg -P carmony's database' action. |
| 21:55.09 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 22:03.39 | TuxToaster | ~whaleslap macnewbold |
| 22:03.39 | ibot | ACTION beats macnewbold upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:03.39 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 22:03.46 | TuxToaster | better. |
| 22:03.55 | mindjuju | hmm, ibot seems to be running slow |
| 22:04.01 | mindjuju | ~nosepick TuxToaster |
| 22:04.02 | ibot | ACTION plucks TuxToaster out of the nose of humanity and wipes him on the couch! |
| 22:04.08 | mindjuju | hmm, that seems faster |
| 22:04.11 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:04.13 | mindjuju | ~porkchop TuxToaster |
| 22:04.13 | ibot | ACTION spits on a porkchop and feeds it to TuxToaster Eat up! |
| 22:04.17 | mindjuju | yup, all better |
| 22:04.29 | TuxToaster | ~lart mindjuju |
| 22:04.29 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks mindjuju over |
| 22:24.11 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 22:24.11 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does simply walk into Mordor |
| 22:25.42 | mindjuju | i'm still holding a hateful grudge against chuck |
| 22:25.45 | mindjuju | ~lart chuck |
| 22:25.45 | ibot | slaps chuck upside the head with a wet fish |
| 22:34.17 | mindjuju | so if i have a webserver and i want all requests coming over port 80 to be handled by my specified site, saying this NameVirtualHost *:80 <VirtualHost *:80> ...blahblahblah... </virtualhost> |
| 22:34.26 | mindjuju | will that handle all subdomain requests, etc |
| 22:34.36 | mindjuju | or do i still need something ala redirect? |
| 22:48.48 | TuxToaster | not following.... if you have a virtualhost for mindjuju.com |
| 22:49.08 | TuxToaster | you'd have to put ServerAlias subdomain.mindjuju.com inside of mj's vhost directive for it to work |
| 22:49.14 | TuxToaster | otherwise, it sees them as two separate hosts |
| 22:49.38 | TuxToaster | so sub.mindjuju.com gets your default site (the first one configured) |
| 22:50.11 | TuxToaster | unless you create a <vhost></vhost> block that has sub.mindjuju.com in either ServerName or ServerAlias |
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| 23:02.14 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 23:02.14 | ibot | slaps stderr- around with a large trout |
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| 23:08.17 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:08.17 | raifbot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, unum, this won't hurt a bit....". |
| 23:08.25 | josephscott | $weather 84092 |
| 23:08.26 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Clear 34f / 1c Humidity: 70% Wind: N at 0 mph |
| 23:38.09 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 23:38.13 | mindjuju | ~karma fungus |
| 23:38.13 | ibot | fungus has karma of 94 |
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| 23:56.07 | carmony | bleh |
| 23:56.16 | carmony | I hate it when we have a server problem |
| 23:56.19 | carmony | at 5 pm |
| 23:57.39 | herlo | stop it |
| 23:57.47 | mgeary | better than 3am |
| 23:57.59 | fungus | I hate it when we have a server problem before 10am |
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