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| 05:27.57 | SunSparc | ~seen ibot |
| 05:27.59 | ibot | ibot is currently on #gsoc (5h 19m 8s) #bzflag (5h 19m 8s) #gooseproject (5h 19m 8s) ##bspress (5h 19m 8s) #brlcad (5h 19m 8s) #handhelds (5h 19m 8s) #utah (5h 19m 8s) #oe (5h 19m 8s) #zaurus (5h 19m 8s) #gllug (5h 19m 8s) #pillbox (5h 19m 8s) #arm-netbook (5h 19m 8s) #handhelds-gpe (5h 19m 8s) #uphpu (5h 19m 8s) #openzaurus (5h 19m 8s) #silvercat (5h 19m ... |
| 05:28.12 | SunSparc | ibot are you here? |
| 05:28.12 | ibot | Yes, I'm right here, sunsparc. |
| 05:28.29 | SunSparc | ibot I am so relieved. |
| 05:28.29 | ibot | it is my pleasure to meet you, so relieved. |
| 05:28.35 | SunSparc | lol |
| 05:28.38 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 05:28.38 | ibot | beats the living hamstercrap out of raifbot |
| 05:28.45 | SunSparc | Nice! |
| 05:28.51 | SunSparc | Bot fight! |
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| 05:51.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 05:51.27 | raifbot | nabs the moon and broadsides uxp with the sea of tranquility. |
| 05:51.42 | TuxToaster | ~sunsparc |
| 05:51.42 | ibot | i heard sunsparc is A pandimensional being, or the internationalization specialist, or currently studying String Theory, or <3 7of9 |
| 05:52.10 | TuxToaster | hmm. Would have been classic if it replied "I heard sunsparc is so relieved." |
| 05:52.49 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 05:53.18 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 05:53.18 | raifbot | A Handicap parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Chuck Norris and that you will be handicapped if you park there. |
| 05:53.28 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 05:53.56 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 05:54.08 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 05:54.42 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 05:54.45 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 05:54.49 | SunSparc_ | LOL |
| 05:54.53 | TuxToaster | doh, you broke it |
| 05:54.59 | TuxToaster | was maing an lol tower |
| 05:55.05 | SunSparc_ | You were supposed to go bigger |
| 05:55.15 | SunSparc_ | Oh, then doh! |
| 05:55.16 | SunSparc_ | :) |
| 05:55.16 | TuxToaster | not to mention, can't possibly have you breaking my lead... :P |
| 05:55.22 | TuxToaster | ~lolstats |
| 05:55.22 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3506. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 525 (15.0%), carmony -- 475 (13.5%), SunSparc -- 437 (12.5%) |
| 05:55.35 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 05:55.39 | TuxToaster | ~lolstats TuxToaster |
| 05:55.39 | ibot | TuxToaster has said lol 525 times (15.0 %), ranked 1/103 (percentile: 1.0 %) |
| 05:55.48 | TuxToaster | nope, doesn't count LOL either, apparently |
| 05:55.51 | SunSparc_ | Hmmm... case sensitive |
| 05:56.12 | SunSparc_ | ~LOLstats |
| 05:56.12 | ibot | total count of LOL on #uphpu: 620. Top 3: itimber -- 117 (18.9%), PoeticIntensity -- 78 (12.6%), TuxToaster -- 77 (12.4%) |
| 05:56.18 | TuxToaster | !!! |
| 05:56.21 | SunSparc_ | Wow! |
| 05:56.39 | TuxToaster | don't tell josephscott about this one... |
| 05:56.40 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 05:56.40 | SunSparc_ | Never knew about that. |
| 05:56.48 | TuxToaster | ~WTFstats |
| 05:56.55 | SunSparc_ | Yeah, no kidding |
| 05:56.55 | TuxToaster | ~help |
| 05:57.03 | TuxToaster | there should be a list of these |
| 05:57.11 | SunSparc_ | ibot, how do we add a stats counter? |
| 05:57.50 | TuxToaster | ~lobotomy |
| 05:57.50 | ibot | I feel different somehow. |
| 05:57.56 | TuxToaster | ~unlobotomy |
| 05:58.04 | TuxToaster | ok... |
| 05:58.16 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 05:58.18 | TuxToaster | ~upsidedown |
| 05:58.26 | TuxToaster | they are listed in the help |
| 05:58.30 | TuxToaster | ~upsidedown TuxToaster |
| 05:58.39 | TuxToaster | oh hai! |
| 05:58.55 | SunSparc_ | Dang, irsii does not render that correctly |
| 05:59.06 | TuxToaster | ~lobotomy TuxToaster |
| 05:59.06 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on TuxToaster |
| 05:59.13 | TuxToaster | ~unlobotomy TuxToaster |
| 05:59.23 | TuxToaster | apparently the un- doesn't work |
| 05:59.39 | TuxToaster | ~rot13 |
| 05:59.47 | SunSparc_ | ~lobotomy TuxToaster |
| 05:59.47 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on TuxToaster |
| 05:59.56 | TuxToaster | what is a ROT13? |
| 06:00.04 | TuxToaster | some kind of string operation, apparently |
| 06:00.11 | SunSparc_ | I think that is because a lobotomy is a one way operation. ;) |
| 06:00.28 | TuxToaster | you'd think, the help just lists unlobotomy as a command. go figure. |
| 06:00.51 | TuxToaster | http://cl.ly/3d2k3S0g233D0S0n2Z3e |
| 06:00.54 | SunSparc_ | Maybe that was removed in the lobotomy |
| 06:01.30 | TuxToaster | ~piglatin raifbot |
| 06:01.54 | SunSparc_ | Hah, nice |
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| 06:02.21 | TuxToaster | ~wtf |
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| 06:02.23 | SunSparc_ | ~piglatin supercalafragilisticexpialidocious |
| 06:02.35 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 06:04.52 | TuxToaster | ~spell |
| 06:05.04 | TuxToaster | You've guessed it right, I'm a spell checker. Give me any word and I can confirm whether it's good or bad. |
| 06:05.12 | TuxToaster | that's what it just pm'ed me. |
| 06:05.27 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 06:05.46 | TuxToaster | ~spell supercalafragilisticexpialidocious |
| 06:05.48 | SunSparc_ | Does it give suggestions? |
| 06:05.55 | SunSparc_ | hah! |
| 06:06.03 | SunSparc_ | ibot, you are not trying hard enough |
| 06:06.03 | ibot | SunSparc_: I think you lost me on that one |
| 06:06.18 | SunSparc_ | I know, right |
| 06:06.37 | TuxToaster | ibot, you have the attention span of a teaspoon |
| 06:06.47 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 06:06.58 | TuxToaster | or a goldfish |
| 06:07.15 | SunSparc_ | She already lost you :) |
| 08:04.39 | SunSparc_ | ~rlart |
| 08:04.39 | ibot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that TuxToaster is stuck to the floor |
| 08:04.48 | SunSparc_ | lol |
| 08:05.09 | SunSparc | ~lartstats |
| 08:05.17 | SunSparc | ~rlartstats |
| 08:06.15 | SunSparc | ~statsstats |
| 08:06.19 | SunSparc | :) |
| 08:57.29 | tierra | ugh... so in CakePHP 1.3, if you want to still make use of the ACL system for say, a REST API, you have to also use AuthComponent... however, unlike SecurityComponent, Auth handles redirects without the option to override the redirect behaviors for use with a REST API... |
| 08:59.02 | tierra | at least with SecurityComponent, it allows you to plug in your own custom blackHole() callback where you can redirect however you want with whatever codes you want... AuthComponent however only lets you customize the redirect locations |
| 08:59.30 | tierra | (but it will force a redirect with Location header and everything, and there's not anything you can do about that) |
| 09:00.08 | tierra | sorry, needed to vent a little |
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| 14:51.59 | TuxToaster | tierra: I feel your pain. |
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| 15:45.45 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 15:45.59 | TuxToaster | mmm.... protomatter |
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| 16:06.57 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/02/nile-rodgers-confirms-daft-punk-collaboration/ |
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| 16:33.21 | captbrogers | ~skinner |
| 16:33.21 | ibot | skinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin. |
| 16:33.35 | captbrogers | ibot is back |
| 16:34.14 | jsmith | ~lart |
| 16:34.29 | captbrogers | I thought lart was only for raifbot |
| 16:34.30 | jsmith | ~lart captbrogers |
| 16:34.30 | ibot | puts captbrogers through a wood chipper |
| 16:34.37 | jsmith | Nope :-) |
| 16:35.29 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 16:35.30 | raifbot | Chuck Norris did it his way and Sinatra sang about it. |
| 16:36.28 | captbrogers | That can't be right. The song mentions him making mistakes |
| 16:37.02 | mindjuju | ~lart chuck |
| 16:37.02 | ibot | eats chuck and falls over dead |
| 16:38.17 | captbrogers | Just don't start attacking defenseless animals |
| 16:38.46 | herlo | mindjuju: why? You should be in a good mood. UTOSC is only a few months away! |
| 16:39.06 | mindjuju | nah, i'm kind to animals and bought my dog a new bag of dog treats last night |
| 16:39.28 | Monnok | ~comfort mindjuju |
| 16:39.28 | ibot | There, there, mindjuju. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:39.51 | herlo | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 16:40.16 | mindjuju | I need to post that, but hammering on some last bits of contract stuff |
| 16:40.26 | mindjuju | might be better to append a date to that first, it's fast |
| 16:40.35 | captbrogers | When is the date? |
| 16:40.56 | captbrogers | I think I may submit mine, but I need to make sure I'll have enough to talk about before I do it |
| 16:41.38 | herlo | captbrogers: the date for the conference? or the date for the end of CFP? |
| 16:41.49 | herlo | because you don't have to have a full talk in place by the end of the cfp |
| 16:41.51 | captbrogers | end of CFP |
| 16:41.59 | mindjuju | i don't have it on hand, but i think it was Mar 17 |
| 16:42.10 | captbrogers | Whew, that will give me plenty of time |
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| 18:19.23 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 18:19.23 | raifbot | pours hot grits down the front of linagee's pants. |
| 18:19.55 | mindjuju | i think we need some new larts |
| 18:20.00 | mindjuju | ~lart lart |
| 18:20.00 | ibot | throws lart's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 18:24.33 | josephscott | https://twitter.com/#!/mm/status/109126655477432320 |
| 18:46.22 | romanovic | josephscott: hey now |
| 18:46.53 | josephscott | :-) |
| 18:47.06 | dezertol | it must be getting close to valintines day.. I read that as "pours hot girls down the front of lingerie's pants |
| 18:47.40 | fungus | romanovic, you get a pass if it's a company blackberry and you don't have a choice. |
| 18:47.55 | romanovic | My wife has been trying for months to get me to convert to iphone |
| 18:48.15 | fungus | by choice? doh. |
| 18:48.18 | romanovic | No, it is by choice. I would like to upgrade to an android soon |
| 18:48.26 | fungus | Yeah you need to switch to android or iphone |
| 18:48.33 | romanovic | Probably not iphone |
| 18:48.44 | fungus | androids are nice too. |
| 18:48.56 | romanovic | 1. Blackberrys, archaic as they are, are still light years ahead of iphone in terms of messaging ability |
| 18:48.58 | romanovic | in my book |
| 18:49.04 | romanovic | at that is my #1 priority at the moment |
| 18:49.40 | fungus | heh, it's your priority because it's the only thing they are good at. :) |
| 18:49.44 | romanovic | however, they have a poor web browsing and multimedia experience, which iphones are so much better at |
| 18:50.26 | fungus | Agreed, blackberrys are pretty awesome at pure messaging. |
| 18:51.07 | Monnok | my iphone makes me use safari, and in my opinion, makes it a poor web browsing experience |
| 18:51.53 | romanovic | 2. With a blackberry, i can connect to a wifi hotspot anywhere in the world, and i am able to make phone calls and text messages as if I were back in the states, and with a better signal |
| 18:51.54 | fungus | Monnok, there are other browsers on iphone now. |
| 18:52.15 | romanovic | It treats them as local calls, no apps required (using UMA) |
| 18:52.39 | Monnok | on the iphone 3g? |
| 18:52.42 | fungus | yup |
| 18:52.46 | fungus | check the app store |
| 18:52.52 | Monnok | me will believe it when he sees it |
| 18:53.00 | fungus | it's a fairly recent development |
| 18:53.42 | fungus | the pages in safari are a bit odd to deal with |
| 18:53.56 | fungus | But tabs on a phone might suck a little too |
| 18:57.44 | Monnok | fungus: im not finding chrome for iphone... but my search-fu could be weak. Help? |
| 18:57.59 | fungus | not chrome, but other browsers |
| 19:01.16 | josephscott | haha, chrome is barely in beta for android |
| 19:01.19 | Monnok | safari is probably superior to apollo and mammoth, ill stay unsatisfied with my iphone browsing experience i guess |
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| 19:36.28 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425835_10150526757796498_265720581497_9445534_1899156787_n.jpg |
| 19:44.06 | mindjuju | awesome |
| 20:14.02 | carmony | lol |
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| 20:26.25 | josephscott | ~lolstats |
| 20:26.25 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3512. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 526 (15.0%), carmony -- 476 (13.6%), SunSparc -- 437 (12.4%) |
| 20:26.30 | josephscott | haha, ibot is back! |
| 20:26.38 | carmony | $lart josephscott |
| 20:26.38 | raifbot | chops josephscott in half with a free AOL CD. |
| 20:26.45 | captbrogers | My bucket list includes getting on that lol top 3 |
| 20:26.52 | josephscott | $8ball can I be glued back together? |
| 20:26.52 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 20:27.08 | captbrogers | $8ball what if it was super glue? |
| 20:27.08 | raifbot | captbrogers - Concentrate and ask again. |
| 20:27.27 | captbrogers | $8ball what if we used some really good super glue? |
| 20:27.27 | raifbot | captbrogers - Don't count on it. |
| 20:27.40 | captbrogers | well, josephscott is hosed. |
| 20:31.23 | carmony | lol |
| 20:34.59 | josephscott | ~lolstats |
| 20:34.59 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3513. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 526 (15.0%), carmony -- 477 (13.6%), SunSparc -- 437 (12.4%) |
| 20:35.05 | josephscott | and so the circle begins again ;-) |
| 20:35.06 | carmony | .... |
| 20:35.18 | captbrogers | lol |
| 20:35.24 | carmony | .lol :P |
| 21:03.42 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:04.17 | clintberry | I think TuxToaster comes in here at night and types lol a bunch of times |
| 21:04.46 | SunSparc | clintberry: TuxToaster and I were lol'ing it up together late last night. :) |
| 21:04.56 | clintberry | I knew it! ;-) |
| 21:05.05 | clintberry | I mean, lol |
| 21:05.08 | SunSparc | I mean... c:TaIwliutlln.:) |
| 21:05.47 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:06.00 | SunSparc | captbrogers: You too can be a late night lawler. |
| 21:06.13 | clintberry | lawler... ha ha |
| 21:06.25 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:06.40 | captbrogers | I could be if my kids didn't keep waking me up at 5:00 am |
| 21:07.20 | SunSparc | captbrogers: I bet there are very few of us active here at 0500. You would be pretty safe to lol then. |
| 21:07.45 | captbrogers | I could come in the room, and do a ton of ascii art for everyone else to look at in the logs one day |
| 21:07.57 | SunSparc | Very true. |
| 21:07.57 | captbrogers | Then they'll all go, "WTF?! What was captbrogers doing?!" |
| 21:08.16 | SunSparc | I bet some of them would definitely lol |
| 21:08.18 | captbrogers | I could tell a whole story through ascii art |
| 21:08.43 | captbrogers | ~captbrogers |
| 21:08.43 | ibot | well, captbrogers is the anti-Mac |
| 21:08.50 | captbrogers | Oh yeah, that's what that was... |
| 21:08.58 | captbrogers | I couldn't remember my title for a minute |
| 21:09.12 | clintberry | What are people here using for deploying their php projects? I started using capistrano, but I am hesitant to use a ruby project. Maybe because I fear what I don't know... |
| 21:09.12 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:09.25 | SunSparc | clintberry: git |
| 21:09.29 | SunSparc | Currently |
| 21:09.29 | captbrogers | I second git |
| 21:09.38 | clintberry | you just do a pull on the production server? |
| 21:09.45 | captbrogers | It was easy to pick up (client) and it's rather nice and unobtrusive |
| 21:09.51 | SunSparc | There are better ways, but that is what we use at the moment. |
| 21:09.59 | SunSparc | clintberry: Yes |
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| 21:10.21 | jsmith | clintberry: Check out the git-flow plugin for git :-) |
| 21:10.40 | clintberry | SunSparc: so in that case you might not have anything else to do in your deploy but to update the files. I was thinking more along the lines of automated unit testing before the deploy and such |
| 21:10.49 | mindjuju | carmony, you around? |
| 21:10.59 | clintberry | jsmith: We use that plugin like it's our religion. I love it |
| 21:11.58 | SunSparc | clintberry: Yes, unfortunately we are not unit testing at the moment either. |
| 21:13.42 | clintberry | I guess I will stick with capistrano for now. Freaking Ruby... ;-) |
| 21:15.50 | carmony | mindjuju: I am |
| 21:16.46 | clintberry | has anyone used Phing for a build tool? https://github.com/phingofficial/phing it looks promising... |
| 21:17.25 | mindjuju | carmony, is there a way in SVN to have anything submitted to a particular folder to autopublish to a server? |
| 21:18.06 | captbrogers | Speaking of git, is there a good web interface tool I can install to manage where the repos are stored and details, etc.? |
| 21:19.21 | clintberry | captbrogers: what do you mean by where repos are stored? Maybe this isn't an answer to your question, but I just setup redmine with git integration yesterday and I love it. |
| 21:19.42 | captbrogers | clintberry: redmine? Ruby stuff? |
| 21:19.46 | clintberry | I know |
| 21:19.49 | clintberry | I am a sucker |
| 21:20.07 | SunSparc | captbrogers: Do you mean something like github? |
| 21:20.07 | clintberry | but it is awesome |
| 21:20.10 | captbrogers | I'm looking for something along the lines of phpGitAdmin type thingy? |
| 21:20.30 | captbrogers | SunSparc: yes, somewhat. But I want to set it up on my personal server, I don't want the repos to be public |
| 21:20.45 | SunSparc | clintberry: I have used Ant for building and deployment. It is powerful. |
| 21:21.03 | SunSparc | captbrogers: You can pay for private repos. |
| 21:21.12 | SunSparc | captbrogers: Or you can check out Unfuddle.com |
| 21:21.27 | SunSparc | captbrogers: I use Unfuddle for a couple of project currently. I really like it. |
| 21:21.55 | captbrogers | SunSparc: I know I can pay, but why pay github when I am already paying for a VPS? |
| 21:22.02 | captbrogers | Though I will look at unfuddle |
| 21:22.10 | captbrogers | I also saw that Fedora has a package called gitweb |
| 21:22.14 | clintberry | SunSparc: I love unfuddle too! But my company wanted the control, so I installed redmine and it is like my own unfuddle. |
| 21:22.16 | mindjuju | ~unfuddle captbrogers |
| 21:23.31 | SunSparc | captbrogers: Having your code repos separate from your web hosting is a good backup solution. Separate points where things can go wrong. |
| 21:23.58 | clintberry | captbrogers: You can check out this node.js front-end for gitolite: https://github.com/warorface/Gitolite-Manager |
| 21:24.03 | SunSparc | clintberry: It is all about how much control you want. :) |
| 21:24.26 | captbrogers | SunSparc: Good advice, which is why I have a server at home that I'm going to set up to copy the data and keep a backup |
| 21:24.39 | SunSparc | captbrogers: Good call |
| 21:25.17 | captbrogers | Because of habits my wife has, I've learned to pinch pennies. If I can do it for free, I will |
| 21:25.19 | carmony | mindjuju: Hrm, there is |
| 21:25.29 | clintberry | captbrogers: But time is money too :-) |
| 21:25.36 | SunSparc | clintberry: AMEN! |
| 21:26.00 | carmony | mindjuju: you need to write a post-hoopk' |
| 21:26.01 | captbrogers | clintberry: yes it is, but knowledge is priceless. If I can learn to do it, I don't see how that can be harmful |
| 21:26.13 | carmony | post-commit hook |
| 21:26.22 | SunSparc | captbrogers: As long as that is what you want. :) |
| 21:26.40 | captbrogers | SunSparc: Yes it is, I really enjoy doing things myself |
| 21:26.42 | clintberry | captbrogers: I agree, the problem I have is that I could learn forever, and then never earn any money. Ha ha. But I guess there are worse things. I just need to pick what I want to learn |
| 21:27.16 | clintberry | captbrogers: you probably learn faster than me though. It took me a whole day to get redmine setup with git. |
| 21:27.27 | captbrogers | clintberry: Very true, I do pay for some things like e-books simply because I could spend weeks searching the net for something or pay a little and get all the things I need in a file that I can keep |
| 21:27.51 | captbrogers | clintberr: don't count on that, I'm not always a fast learner, but I do really enjoy figuring things out. |
| 21:28.23 | captbrogers | My brother-in-law reformatted my computer one day, years ago, and put Fedora on it. Back then, it was Fedora Core 5. He left with my windows disc and said, "Call if you have questions!" |
| 21:28.34 | captbrogers | I learned to love Fedora and it is my preference in OS |
| 21:28.38 | captbrogers | ...brb |
| 21:29.12 | jsmith | :-) |
| 21:30.18 | mgeary | anyone here use google apps/email for their email? |
| 21:30.30 | SunSparc | mgeary: I do |
| 21:30.45 | SunSparc | I suggest it to my hosting clients also. |
| 21:31.04 | mgeary | talk to me about email alises/forwarding |
| 21:31.09 | mgeary | i'm trying to help a client |
| 21:31.15 | SunSparc | mgeary: what would you like to know? |
| 21:32.06 | mgeary | so, it appears that the concept of a true email alias doesn't exist. That is, i can't set up foo@bar.com where bar.com is handled by google apps, and have that automatically resolve to, say, foo@bar2.com, where bar2.com is NOT handled by google apps |
| 21:32.28 | mgeary | it appears that the only way to do this is by logging in to gmail panel of foo@bar.com and setting it up there. Is that really the case? |
| 21:33.40 | fungus | mgeary, use a group |
| 21:33.57 | mgeary | fungus: can you elaborate? |
| 21:33.58 | fungus | foo@bar.com is a group with one member, foo@bar2.com |
| 21:34.33 | fungus | Though it becomes a lot harder if you have the advanced Google Groups service enabled. |
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| 21:37.00 | wps | ~lart proxies |
| 21:37.00 | ibot | makes a balloon animal out of proxies |
| 21:37.05 | wps | weak |
| 21:37.20 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 21:37.22 | wps | ~lart proxies |
| 21:37.22 | ibot | squeezes proxies till proxies turns blue like papa smurf |
| 21:37.28 | wps | still weak |
| 21:37.33 | wps | how about something with a blow torch |
| 21:37.37 | mindjuju | proxies, last time i remember you bemoaning proxies when was you were still working in SLC at LDS building |
| 21:37.49 | wps | my current employer is even worse |
| 21:37.54 | mindjuju | ah |
| 21:37.56 | mindjuju | srry to hear |
| 21:38.06 | mindjuju | you know, you could always tunnel out |
| 21:38.10 | wps | after crying and begging for a year, I finally have IMAP and IRC today |
| 21:39.25 | SunSparc | ~fungus++ |
| 21:39.37 | wps | our own website still takes two solid minutes to load (internally) though because of various inclusions that each have to be individually white-listed by IT |
| 21:39.52 | mgeary | ~SunSparc++ |
| 21:40.01 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 22:16.15 | josephscott | ssh tunneling for irc, the only way to chat :-) |
| 22:18.30 | clintberry | josephscott: How do you setup that awesomeness? |
| 22:18.36 | clintberry | I am forced to use a web client |
| 22:19.05 | josephscott | ssh port forwarding |
| 22:20.28 | clintberry | so you just turn on port forwarding on some linux box somewhere, and then set that ip/port in your irc client |
| 22:20.44 | clintberry | sweet, I am going to try that out tomorrow mornging |
| 22:21.02 | josephscott | pretty much |
| 22:21.40 | josephscott | at work we run a box with ssh listening on port 80 just in case you find yourself on a network that only allows outbound connections on port 80 |
| 22:25.36 | mgeary | anyone know anyone looking for an entry-level tech job? |
| 22:25.48 | mindjuju | what kind of tech? |
| 22:26.10 | mindjuju | all platform fix-it-person? |
| 22:26.28 | mgeary | support, i think |
| 22:26.40 | mgeary | at bluehost |
| 22:26.41 | mindjuju | is full-time? bennies? have link? |
| 22:26.45 | mgeary | yes |
| 22:26.57 | mindjuju | i know some people that are looking |
| 22:27.04 | mgeary | i have a link, but anyone i recommend would get a fast-tracked interview |
| 22:27.11 | mgeary | http://www.bluehost.com/careers/ |
| 22:27.26 | mgeary | my buddy says they're looking to hire ~20 people |
| 22:27.43 | captbrogers | mgeary, who's the buddy? I used to be a tech there |
| 22:27.51 | mindjuju | do you know pay? |
| 22:27.55 | captbrogers | took "supervisor" calls, *shudder* |
| 22:27.59 | mgeary | captbrogers: james grierson |
| 22:28.09 | captbrogers | name seems familiar but I can't put a face to him |
| 22:28.10 | mgeary | mindjuju: ~14/hour i think |
| 22:28.32 | mgeary | i know Matt Heaton, too, but only from high school |
| 22:28.41 | mindjuju | k, i'll send info and keep you posted |
| 22:28.45 | mgeary | ok |
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| 22:36.49 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 22:36.49 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of gshipley's pants |
| 22:36.57 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:37.03 | SunSparc | That's gotta hurt. |
| 22:37.23 | SunSparc | I have heard bad things about BlueHost. Not sure that I would ever want to work there. |
| 22:39.56 | mindjuju | i've got a client at bluehost, never had an outage (that i'm aware of) |
| 22:40.12 | mindjuju | i did have 1 problemo, you are limited to how many emails you can send in a day |
| 22:40.42 | mindjuju | and they don't say that ANYWHERE and so i spent like an hour troubleshooting why only somepeople where getting an email being sent out by the web site |
| 22:41.51 | mgeary | i managed a BH account for a client for a year or two. Never really had any issues or objections |
| 22:41.51 | tierra | heh, that's pretty much the only real problem I've run into with them... |
| 22:42.10 | mindjuju | tierra, the email limit issue? |
| 22:42.26 | tierra | well, I do have an objection with their FTP... it's not FTPS, and you can't even use TLS... all bare password or no access... |
| 22:42.43 | tierra | mindjuju: yeah |
| 22:42.43 | mindjuju | ah true that |
| 22:42.55 | mgeary | but that's fairly typical of many shared hosting setups |
| 22:42.56 | mindjuju | otherwise though, it's cheap and decent |
| 22:43.17 | tierra | in my view, it's a huge security hole, but whatever... |
| 22:43.41 | tierra | not only is your password in the clear, but so are all the files going across |
| 22:44.06 | mgeary | but i wouldn't recommend that anyone put anything sensitive on shared hosting in the firstplace |
| 22:44.15 | mindjuju | that's true, this isn't an ecomm site, it's barely 1st above a blog |
| 22:44.16 | mgeary | i mean, password in the clear is bad, but content... |
| 22:48.12 | tierra | this is the year 2012... there's tons of really easy ways of setting up FTPS now, and pretty much all clients support it now... in fact, I'm pretty sure there's very few shared hosting providers that don't use it still, and BH is one of them |
| 22:48.40 | tierra | there really isn't any excuse |
| 22:48.52 | stderr | may as well print out the content and transfer it to the data center on a horse and buggy |
| 22:48.57 | tierra | it's like running a PHP site with register globals still turned on... |
| 22:49.18 | stderr | although that actually would be more secure |
| 22:49.43 | mindjuju | limh |
| 22:50.56 | romanovic | my bluehost ftp was hacked once... got an email one day telling me my account was disabled and would be shut down in 15 days |
| 22:51.00 | influx | aboo. aboobooboo. |
| 22:51.59 | romanovic | I hadn't needed ftp access for a long time, so i just shut it off. Now 100% sftp with bluehost |
| 22:52.34 | tierra | with their shell accounts? (that require some effort to get enabled) |
| 22:52.36 | mindjuju | this guy is going on 18months of no upgrades, so i haven't even looked at it |
| 22:52.58 | romanovic | tierra: yeah, they require you to send a copy of an id before they give you ssh access |
| 22:55.34 | mindjuju | i wonder if they actually do anything with the license or if they just require it as a way to discourage |
| 22:55.43 | tierra | yeah, I had a client once on BH that I wanted to get that enabled for... never did though, just can't come up with a good non-technical explanation that you know your client is going to understand completely and not think you're sketchy for asking them to send a copy of their ID to BH, heh |
| 22:56.14 | tierra | I'm pretty positive it's just to discourage it |
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| 23:40.23 | mindjuju | nothing like a corporate-wide carpet bomb email campaign to get results |
| 23:42.28 | josephscott | $lart carpet bomb emails |
| 23:42.28 | raifbot | blasts carpet bomb emails to oblivion with a kamehameha wave. |
| 23:42.36 | mindjuju | what?? |
| 23:42.41 | mindjuju | they can be super effective! |
| 23:53.39 | TuxToaster | ah, more lol discussion |
| 23:53.46 | TuxToaster | josephscott: you'll be thrilled to know about this one... |
| 23:53.48 | TuxToaster | ~LOLstats |
| 23:53.48 | ibot | total count of LOL on #uphpu: 620. Top 3: itimber -- 117 (18.9%), PoeticIntensity -- 78 (12.6%), TuxToaster -- 77 (12.4%) |
| 23:53.55 | TuxToaster | apparently separate from ~lolstats |
| 23:54.10 | TuxToaster | although sad that I'm on both lists. |
| 23:54.59 | josephscott | ~tuxstats |
| 23:55.10 | SunSparc | Apparently itimber lolz the loudest. |
| 23:55.31 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity is right up there though, wow. |
| 23:57.07 | influx | mindjuju: What do you use for Minecraft-World-Linking? |
| 23:58.18 | PoeticIntensity | buyah, dude. |
| 23:58.21 | PoeticIntensity | I know my LOL'ing. |
| 23:58.31 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 23:58.31 | raifbot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on mahelious. |
| 23:58.46 | TuxToaster | ... as opposed to a tiny, popping nuke. |
| 23:59.01 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 23:59.03 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 23:59.04 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:59.04 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 23:59.13 | TuxToaster | $lart PoeticIntensity |
| 23:59.13 | raifbot | gets a hotmail account and SPAMs PoeticIntensity. |
| 23:59.18 | PoeticIntensity | whaaa???? |
| 23:59.20 | PoeticIntensity | oh, man... |
| 23:59.56 | TuxToaster | ruh roh |
