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15:30.59carmonyI feel like my bashfoo has been increasing these last few days
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16:09.43captbrogersComcast: "We are going to send a technician to ensure everything is installed properly."
16:09.53captbrogers$35 later, I'm pissed
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16:11.45dezertolcaptbrogers: I've never been happy Comcast
16:12.36dezertoldealing with mountain bell o.. I mean qwest.. o I mean.. centry link isn't any better
16:13.05captbrogersThey don't even offer it at my new apartment
16:13.26captbrogersMy wife and I don't like Orem but I'm considering talking my wife into moving there so we can get Utopia
16:14.11dezertolone of my friends is on that.. I've never heard him complain about it
16:14.20dezertolso.. it can't be to bad..
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16:19.02herlocaptbrogers: Comcast is better than Qworst
16:19.24herlocaptbrogers: what was it that they charged you for?
16:21.22mgearywe've currently got Clear at our office, and it looks like they've been throttling us lately. We don't have many options here. Does anyone here have experience with Digis?
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16:22.12captbrogersA $35 fee to have a technician come in and plug in the modem
16:22.18captbrogersBecause I am unable to do it myself according to Comcast
16:22.49captbrogersdezertol: I had Utopia once before and I loved it, my wife who used to just leech off neighbors now complains that we can't get it
16:22.50dezertolthe best part is.. that the "technician" is a contracted self employed guy
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16:23.27captbrogersI'm watching that scene from Back To The Future I where they are showing off the DeLorean for the first time. I love it.
16:24.10dezertollol the DeLorean ..
16:24.25dezertolthat car is like one of the biggest flops ..
16:24.32dezertolright up there with the Ugo
16:24.32captbrogersNot to me, I want one so bad
16:24.33herlocaptbrogers: um, no. I wonder if you could have just said that you could do it. I didn't ever have them come out for that.
16:24.43herloseems silly
16:25.09captbrogersherlo: I got on their chat and said I could do it. They said I couldn't because it is a new apartmet complex and they need someone to come out and look at things
16:25.29captbrogersA DeLorean is going to be my mid-life crisis car
16:25.30dezertoldid you say.. I can send you some pictures
16:25.31dezertollol
16:25.34herlocaptbrogers: dispute the charge with your bank :)
16:25.37dezertolLOL
16:25.42dezertolnot me
16:25.52captbrogersNot worth it to me to dispute it, but enough of an annoyance I'll come complain about
16:25.54captbrogersit
16:26.42dezertolhttp://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=active&client=ubuntu&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbnid=JVReo_rdAt6C9M:&imgrefurl=http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/CarbDude/vehicles/38313/photos/1558655&docid=E9cQT52Ge0vkVM&imgurl=http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/1558655/tech-specs-delivery-deluxe-32-ford-sedan-delivery-george-poteet-_detail.jpg&w=600&h=402&ei=ncQmT8uyEu3HsQKnyqWMAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=737&vpy=213&dur=403&hovh=184&hovw=274
16:26.42dezertol&tx=122&ty=87&sig=110104377139788044372&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=186&start=0&ndsp=41&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0&biw=1782&bih=1001
16:26.46dezertolwow.. that sucked..
16:26.50captbrogersYes it did
16:26.55captbrogersUse a url shortner
16:26.59dezertolhttp://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/CarbDude/vehicles/38313/photos/1558655
16:27.08dezertolthat's what I want for my mid-life car
16:27.22herlo~tinyurl dezertol
16:27.22ibotACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=dezertol' and laughs maniacally!
16:28.27dezertol32 Sedan Delivery
16:28.53captbrogersI want the DeLorean with the Back To The Future kit on the back
16:29.33dezertolwell I guess it can be just for show because DeLoreans can't got 88 miles per hour
16:30.02dezertolmaybe downhill
16:30.02dezertolwith a tail wind
16:30.09captbrogersYes they can, there is a factory that will swap out the innards with comparable GMC parts to make it more modern
16:30.15captbrogersSo they can get up to 120+
16:30.26dezertolreally?
16:30.27dezertollol
16:30.37captbrogersYep
16:30.44dezertolthere is a factory .. that specilizes in making a DeLorean .. an actual car
16:31.15dezertoldoes it come with the back to the future kit
16:31.16captbrogersThey bought all the parts to make them from the factory that originally did it
16:31.28dezertolok.. that's just funny
16:31.39captbrogersSo you can order a DeLorean new with updated parts and dash, just like buying a brand new one
16:31.49dezertolyou should call them and ask if they have the back to the future kits..
16:32.03dezertoland when they say. no.. you should ask.. how many people have called and asked
16:32.14captbrogershttp://delorean.com/
16:32.33dezertolwow
16:32.34dezertol....
16:32.38dezertolhow much are they?
16:32.45captbrogersI want one so badly, they run up to $40,000k
16:32.47captbrogerserr..
16:32.49captbrogers$40,000
16:32.55captbrogersSorry, I can't brain today
16:33.46captbrogersBut they can go up to $60,000
16:34.10herlocaptbrogers: http://www.leftlanenews.com/photos/bmw-m3-sedan-picture-4.html <-- my mid-life crisis car
16:34.26captbrogersMy brother and brother-in-law are engineers so I would build the kit myself if I had to, they would be happy to help
16:34.55herloexcept I want the frozen black
16:34.56dezertolMy friends godfather.. wrapped one of them around a tree a few years ago
16:34.57herlohttp://www.motorward.com/wp-content/images/2010/05/2011-BMW-M3-Competition-Frozen-Black-1.jpg
16:35.17dezertola different.. M3.. but an M3.. non the less
16:35.18captbrogersherlo: That is the car I wish I could have now, just for kicks. But my inner-nerd wants the DeLorean. And since it's the nerd that is bring in the money, it wins
16:35.48herloheh
16:35.56carmonyI would love an m3...
16:35.58dezertolI'll stick with the 32 Sedan Delivery or.. maybe a 34 Vicky
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16:36.06herloI think the m3 could get to 88 mph faster than a delorean :)
16:36.16dezertolbut.. it would be far from stock.. by the time I get done messing with it
16:36.20captbrogersI completely agree, but I wouldn't care
16:36.35herlocaptbrogers: let's race :)
16:36.38dezertoldoesn't the m3 do 88 in like second gear
16:36.50herlodezertol: very likely
16:36.59captbrogersherlo: Soon as my flux capacitor is working sure, let's do a 100 mile race and we'll see who wins :)
16:37.05herlowhy do you think I want it, dezertol :)
16:37.22herlocaptbrogers: I'd like to rid with you at that point :)
16:37.29dezertolbecause you have a lack of speeding tickets in your life ?
16:37.45herlobut you can use a flux capacitor only when you have plutonium
16:38.12captbrogersNo, when I have 1.21 GW of power, which can be done
16:38.20herlolol
16:38.25captbrogersBut if I were to get a dream motorcycle, I'd get this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxhyqiy9IBI
16:38.41dezertollol
16:39.28herlonice
16:39.58captbrogersHold them over the garbage can, let it drain out
16:40.26herlogetting internets today at the new place
16:41.02herlocurrently using phone tether
16:41.46influx$chuck-fact
16:41.46raifbotThe best part of waking up is not Folgers in your cup, but knowing that Chuck Norris didn't kill you in your sleep.
16:43.17captbrogersherlo: I am trying to get that signed up now. Because the apartments I'm in were just constructed, I have to wait a week for it to be in the comcast database
16:44.15herlogeez
16:44.44TuxToasterComcast sucks.
16:44.45TuxToasterlol
16:44.46herlocaptbrogers: just moved to daybreak, so I can get utopia here. HOA includes qworst for free
16:45.03herloTuxToaster: I think it's not the worst, though. qworst takes the cake on the suck
16:45.04TuxToasterthough from what I heard one of their channels was showing a Red Hat login prompt last night
16:45.09captbrogersPfft, I say no to DSL
16:45.14TuxToasterherlo: true.
16:45.18herlocaptbrogers: fiber
16:45.29herloqworst fiber
16:45.35herlobut still fiber
16:45.46captbrogersWhat?! They tried to do fiber? I wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft clown pole
16:45.47TuxToasterI used to love my DSL, but then cable speeds got much better, and Qwest hasn't even tried to improve their network
16:46.09captbrogersI would get Utopia through Xmission, I loved them
16:46.10herlocaptbrogers: again, it *comes* with the HOA. I am paying for it anyway
16:46.22captbrogersI don't blame you, I'd do the same
16:46.24herlocaptbrogers: I plan to get Utopia as well. :)
16:46.39TuxToastercaptbrogers: they offer a few things actually, they have a couple of FTTH initiatives (like in Daybreak) and then most of their DSL lines now are FTTN + DSL from the node to the house
16:47.12TuxToasterI'd love to get Utopia if they'd ever expand it away from I-15
16:47.29herloTuxToaster: supposedly they have it here at Daybreak.
16:47.41herlothat's nowhere near I-15
16:48.14TuxToasterherlo: well, Qwest has their fiber network out there as part of the HOA stuff though, I'd wonder if Utopia has a way of offering service over that, or something
16:48.16herlobut I'm guessing they are leasing qworst's lines atm
16:48.23TuxToasteryup, that's my thinking.
16:48.44TuxToasterWe ended up not buying at Daybreak though, so doesn't help me either way :P
16:48.45herlobut I won't complain if Utopia gets money, they could use more customers :)
16:49.09herloTuxToaster: where did you move?
16:49.45TuxToasterWest Jordan. Just off of 70th south, unfortunately a bit close to where the MVC will be running
16:50.09TuxToasterthough hopefully we won't notice a huge impact since it should be below grade out here
16:50.38herloMVC?
16:50.46herlotrax line?
16:51.16TuxToastermountain view corridor
16:51.30herlooh, right
16:51.33TuxToasterthe new highway that will eventually connect through Daybreak and up to I-80
16:52.58herloyeah, on the west end, far from me :)
16:53.07TuxToasteryeah, the area we're in is kind of a dead end anyways so the MVC should run somewhere between a 1/2 mile to a mile west of us, but as long as it doesn't cause them to destroy the nice open space that's around there I won't complain
16:54.13herlosupposedly, they are saving open spaces where they can
16:54.15TuxToasterwe looked out there off and on for years, but when we were ready to buy we ended up finding a house in a quiet area and ended up getting at least twice the house we would have been able to get at Daybreak for the same cost
16:54.34TuxToasternot to mention being HOA-free and having a good sized yard :-)
16:55.44herlowhat is it with people hating HOAs?
16:55.46herloI just don't get it
16:56.01herlodoesn't seem to be a real issue and I get a ton of services for my fees
16:56.21captbrogersI think part of it is having to conform to more rules that some people find arbitrary
16:56.24josePHPagodaherlo: there are a bunch that are bad
16:56.24TuxToasterwell, I don't hate them, in fact it wasn't a focus when we were looking, but it was in the plus column at least :-)
16:56.32captbrogersLike me, I just don't want to deal with even more regulations
16:56.32josePHPagodait's good that you found a nice one
16:56.44josePHPagodasome HOA's are a pain though
16:56.58TuxToasterthe big issue I had was hearing people who are complaining about the costs constantly going up
16:57.26TuxToasterand at least in some parts of Daybreak there are supposedly issues with them not doing the upkeep that the HOA fees supposedly pay for
16:57.35herlothis is the second one where I've not run into any issues with them, they just work.
16:58.31herloTuxToaster: interesting, I did read some stuff on their forum about fleecing, but I figure it's just bitter people complaining about the same things all the time. Most people I've come across here don't seem to have an issue with it.
16:58.58TuxToasterI think it also depends on which neighborhood you're in and how much you're paying.
16:59.33TuxToasteras I understood it some homes pay upwards of $200/mo because they have smaller properties and therefore have to pay more for upkeep of the community parks and gardens, etc.
17:00.10TuxToasternot sure how accurate that is, but I heard that a couple of times from separate sources. I figured it might not have been as bad as it sounded, but I'll admit it is nice not to have to worry about it at all
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17:04.54herloyeah, I think it varies, I heard $64 in founders park, we pay $99
17:05.12herlobut they don't get fiber in founder's park by default. Didn't come built in
17:12.27TuxToasterwow, I haven't heard it as low as $64, though I guess they could have lowered rates a bit there since many of the people in founders park have been there a while
17:12.56captbrogersWhen I had Utopia in Orem, it was $42 after tax and fees
17:13.54herlos/s//
17:14.13herlolol
17:15.23josePHPagodahmm
17:44.20josephscotthttp://devour.com/video/matthews-day-off/
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17:47.51herlohehe, nice
17:50.01TuxToaster$rlart
17:50.01raifbotoffers influx some herring.
17:50.22josePHPagodaherring isn't bad....
17:53.08TuxToastersmoked salmon would be better
17:56.26josePHPagodabut still, not much of a lart
17:56.44TuxToaster$lart josePHPagoda
17:56.44raifbotinstalls a bad bootloader on josePHPagoda and turns josePHPagoda into a brick.
17:56.48TuxToasterbetter?
17:57.11herlo~whalepoo josePHPagoda
17:57.26herlo~whale josePHPagoda
17:57.47herloibot: what is going on?
17:57.48ibotEverything is going on. Oh, and adamorjames still keeps on sucking!
17:58.02josePHPagoda:-/
17:58.10josePHPagodanot so much about the bad bootloader
17:58.12herlo~lart josePHPagoda
17:58.12ibotthrows josePHPagoda's poor little doggy off a cliff
17:58.27herlo~monkey josePHPagoda
17:58.27ibotACTION flings poo at josePHPagoda
17:58.30josePHPagodabut the whalepoo... what's up with that
17:58.35josePHPagodaah... there you go herlo
17:58.40herlo~poo josePHPagoda
17:58.40ibotACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at josePHPagoda
17:58.40josePHPagodayou have poo related attacks now
17:58.47josePHPagodaherlo uses poo, it is very effective
17:58.51herlojosePHPagoda: those have been there for a while
17:59.07herlo~cook josePHPagoda
17:59.07ibotACTION throws josePHPagoda in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks josePHPagoda on 350 for an hour
17:59.24josePHPagodalol
17:59.26herlo~whaleslap josePHPagoda
17:59.26ibotACTION beats josePHPagoda upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
17:59.36herlo~hugh josePHPagoda
17:59.36ibotACTION watches Hugh, the freakishly huge killer whale, body slam josePHPagoda
17:59.45josePHPagodarandom
18:03.11TuxToasterwow
18:03.28TuxToasterI turn away for a minute and all lart breaks loose
18:03.57herlohaha, yep
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18:09.50TuxToaster$chuck-fact
18:09.50raifbotChuck Norris can build a snowman out of rain.
18:09.53TuxToasterlol
18:10.08herlo~wallop TuxToaster
18:10.08ibotACTION Grabs a rather large desk and bonks TuxToaster about the head with it.
18:10.19TuxToasteroooww.
18:10.22herlo~whallop TuxToaster :)
18:10.22ibotACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop TuxToaster :) until TuxToaster :) whimpers like a little girl!
18:10.39TuxToasterwait, ibot is your girlfriend?
18:10.50herloapparently
18:11.08herlomy wife approves, I suppose. Especially since she is a bot and not a person :)
18:11.18TuxToasterheh
18:11.37TuxToasterok, one more then back to work
18:11.39TuxToaster$lart herlo
18:11.40raifbotstrangles herlo with a doohicky mouse cord.
18:11.43josePHPagodai like how TuxToaster :) is who was attacked
18:11.52herlohehe
18:11.53josePHPagodanot just TuxToaster, but with a smiley
18:11.56josePHPagoda:-P
18:12.08TuxToasteryeah, apparently ibot was waay too happy about that one.
18:12.19herlo!kick TuxToaster
18:12.22herloer ~kick
18:12.27herlo~kick TuxToaster
18:12.27ibotACTION kicks TuxToaster
18:12.30TuxToasteror, I guess technically it was herlo that was too happy,seeing as ibot told him to do it
18:12.31herlo:P
18:12.35TuxToasterow
18:12.58herlo~whalepoop TuxToaster
18:12.58ibotACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at TuxToaster
18:13.06herlo~whalepoop josePHPagoda
18:13.06ibotACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at josePHPagoda
18:13.13herlothat's what I was going for earlier :)
18:13.15TuxToasterWhy do we even have that whale?
18:13.35herlobecause Hugh is awesome! just ask 8ball
18:13.44TuxToaster$8ball is Hugh awesome?
18:13.44raifbotTuxToaster - Without a doubt.
18:13.48TuxToaster...
18:13.49herlo:)
18:13.55captbrogersBecause that whale needed a friend. The last "friend" it had didn't work out so well
18:14.10herlocaptbrogers: because hugh body slammed him :(
18:14.13captbrogersI do recall it's last friend being something large and round
18:14.24herloit's kind of like Flowers for Algernon
18:14.31TuxToasterhaha
18:15.02herlothank you, thank you. I'll be here until Thursday
18:15.06herloTry the veal
18:15.09herlo:P
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18:27.02carmonyWOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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18:27.07carmonyI got into tek12! :D
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18:34.46herlovery nice
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19:02.03josephscottcarmony: nice, what is your session going to be on?
19:09.22josephscottcarmony: http://amix.dk/blog/post/19676 reminded me to ask, did you ever get a service credit from rackspace?
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19:55.55carmonyjosephscott: Redis & CSS
19:55.58carmonytwo sessions
19:56.06josephscottcool
19:56.42carmonyI'm glad I did that CSS pres at WordPress :D
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20:06.31maheliousturkey and avocado on focaccia with a light balsamic dressing and side salad: 450 calories,  $12.99; 10 chicken nuggets: 485 calories, $3
20:06.45maheliousand for that price i can easily get 20...
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20:46.59influxw8
20:49.55TuxToasterwow
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21:10.41romanovicmahelious: kneaders?
21:11.02romanovicturkey bacon avocado on focaccia from kneaders is amazing
21:12.20mgearyseriously
21:12.38mgearyminus the avocado and bacon, and plus provolone
21:13.22TuxToastermgeary: wouldn't that make it a turkey provolone on foaccia? :P
21:13.33mgearywhy, yes. Yes it would
21:25.24carmonyugggg, I have to go format a windows computer tomorrow :/
21:26.42carmonynew secretary on her very first day opened a "file" from "fedex"
21:26.59carmonynow her computer is riddled with pop-ups
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21:27.46herloalso, there is a call for papers, I guess.
21:28.08carmonylooks like I'll be hitting 2 conferences in may :D
21:28.47herlohehe
21:29.14carmonynow if I can get into zend con... that'd be awesome
21:32.44josePHPagodazend con is fun
21:35.55carmonythat is one I've never been to yet
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21:37.30macnewbold~mindjuju++
21:37.45macnewboldherlo: I think I got my three submissions in before you...
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21:37.56herlomacnewbold: I don't have any in yet, so probably :)
21:37.58carmonyI can't find where I wrote down my submissions
21:38.09carmonymy abstracts, that is
21:38.12macnewboldmindjuju: fwiw, the tab order on your call for papers form is kind of goofy - it tabs from the top form down to the comment form, and back again
21:38.12herloaye
21:38.29macnewboldcarmony: I can put together some fun abstracts for you
21:38.33carmonyLOL
21:38.34herlomacnewbold: lol, I just told him he's missing the 'other ________' field on a few
21:41.46herloI suppose a few other fields are missing too, but hey
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22:22.36TuxToasterlol
22:23.15josephscott~lolstats
22:23.15ibottotal count of lol on #uphpu: 3469.  Top 3: TuxToaster -- 513 (14.8%), carmony -- 473 (13.6%), SunSparc -- 427 (12.3%)
22:23.22TuxToaster$lart josePHPagoda
22:23.23raifbotblasts josePHPagoda with a huge firehose then strangles josePHPagoda with it.
22:23.25TuxToasterdangit
22:23.28TuxToaster$lart josephscott
22:23.28raifbotplops josephscott into a giant vat of herring.
22:23.28carmonyI need off that list
22:23.37carmonyI keep getting notified when it says my name :P
22:23.42TuxToastercarmony: quit saying lol?
22:23.48carmonyI'm tring...
22:23.58SunSparclol
22:24.02TuxToasterheh, same boat here (the notifying)
22:24.04maheliousheh
22:24.06carmonyI'll hack Raifbot to say lol more than I
22:24.09TuxToasterSunSparc: 428
22:24.33SunSparcTuxToaster: Yep
22:24.49TuxToastercarmony: if it makes you feel any better ,all three of us just went up 1
22:24.58TuxToasterso I have a feeling the top 3 is set for a while.
22:24.59mahelious$rlart $say lol
22:24.59raifbotcuts off unum's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper.
22:25.07TuxToasterhaha
22:25.16carmonyI think it only counts exact "lols"
22:25.22carmony~lolstat
22:25.24TuxToastercarmony: it does
22:25.28carmony~lolstats
22:25.28ibottotal count of lol on #uphpu: 3470.  Top 3: TuxToaster -- 513 (14.8%), carmony -- 473 (13.6%), SunSparc -- 428 (12.3%)
22:26.00TuxToasterbut you said LOL once, then I did, then SunSparc did. So we're keeping everyone else from catching up, apparently.
22:26.20SunSparclol
22:26.24TuxToasterit's like we are conditioned or something.
22:26.25josephscott~say lol
22:26.26ibotlol
22:26.49TuxToaster$chuck-fact
22:26.49raifbotChuck Norris was ordered to go to court once but the judge never showed up.
22:27.26maheliousneed to setup an ibot command that polls for "$lart" and responds with "lol" everytime
22:27.35TuxToaster$lart Chuck Norris
22:27.35raifbotcrushes Chuck Norris with a full height scsi disk.
22:27.57TuxToastermahelious: would work better if raifbot said lol. ibot can't count it's own messages
22:28.21maheliousraifbot can?
22:28.26TuxToasterbut... raifbot could say lol every time someone issues a ~command
22:28.39TuxToastermahelious: no, ibot is the one doing the counting on lolstats
22:28.53SunSparcTuxToaster: carmony: you could set a greeting with raifbot so that whenever you join the channel he lol's.
22:28.54TuxToasterso raifbot would have to be the one to say lol to inflate the stats :P
22:28.57maheliousoic.
22:29.08TuxToasterSunSparc: haha
22:29.12carmonyvery... good idea...
22:29.17TuxToasterthen I'd have to cycle
22:29.20TuxToastera lot
22:29.21SunSparc:)
22:29.33TuxToasterhow about raifbot just says lol every time one of us says anything at all?
22:29.41TuxToasterwe'd appear to be funny, and he'd inflate the stats
22:29.45SunSparcThat would be a lot of lols.
22:29.49TuxToasteryup
22:29.55TuxToasterbut he's got to make up 500
22:30.02josephscott$lart Chuck Norris
22:30.02raifbotbeats the living hamstercrap out of Chuck Norris.
22:30.21TuxToasterlol... hamstercrap.
22:30.26SunSparclol
22:30.37SunSparc~report Chuck Norris abuse
22:31.07josephscott$8ball will Chuck Norris be ok?
22:31.07raifbotjosephscott - Very doubtful.
22:31.18TuxToaster$save Chuck Norris
22:31.19raifbotruns into a burning building and saves Chuck Norris from certain death. Is that enough?
22:31.20carmonydoes raifbot do on-joins?
22:31.36TuxToastercarmony: he can, if written. :-)
22:32.06carmonyI might offer to throw the code up on github for josephscott just cause he is so busy :P
22:36.02TuxToasterhttp://pastie.org/3285323
22:36.09TuxToastersomething like that would be interesting
22:37.13josephscott$8ball does raifbot need more lol'ing?
22:37.13raifbotjosephscott - Ask again later.
22:38.46TuxToasterand josephscott, while I'm thinking of it.... you might find this handy
22:39.32TuxToasterhmm
22:40.19TuxToasterwell, I was going to pastie a couple of wrappers I use with the netbots to load and unload action handlers, but I just realized there's more to it than just those functions.
22:40.29TuxToasterI really should clean this up and post it somewhere
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23:46.33influxninnypants: ahoy
23:47.24ninnypantshey influx
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