| 00:00.44 | carmony | mindjuju_: haven't heard back yet |
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| 02:02.33 | carmony | by cruel world... |
| 02:02.33 | carmony | :P |
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| 02:16.03 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 02:16.03 | raifbot | whips out a sword and chops pelaofeliz in half. |
| 02:21.34 | Monnok | aww looks like carmony planned ahead and got out of the channel ahead of time |
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| 02:22.22 | ninnypants | too bad |
| 02:22.40 | ninnypants | I thought he might stream the presentation |
| 02:26.04 | macnewbold | ninnypants: sorry, i don't have a way to stream it :( |
| 02:26.13 | macnewbold | she'll share her slides though it sounds like |
| 02:27.08 | ninnypants | cool wish I could've made it |
| 02:27.35 | ninnypants | I'll just need someone who can type really fast to transcribe everything into irc for me :) |
| 02:27.58 | Monnok | i can type fast, with 5% accuracy |
| 02:31.12 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 02:32.12 | ninnypants | good enough ;) |
| 02:33.15 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:33.30 | TuxToaster | in summary: she's talking about money... and taxes.... and stuff :P |
| 02:35.19 | ninnypants | thanks TuxToaster that's probably good enough for me to make business decisions off of |
| 02:36.40 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:36.47 | TuxToaster | glad I could help :-) |
| 02:37.57 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 02:37.57 | raifbot | beats gshipley over the head with a microkernel. |
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| 04:27.26 | captbrogers | Anyone see anonymous going homeless-guy-crazy on the feds? |
| 04:31.16 | ninnypants | yeah I read about it |
| 04:33.17 | captbrogers | Holy crap, there is an author on CNET saying that anon may have been played into attacking so that SOPA could get more support |
| 04:33.33 | captbrogers | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57362437-83/anonymous-goes-nuclear-everybody-loses/ |
| 05:08.06 | ninnypants | captbrogers: how has your uptime been with thrustvps? |
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| 06:08.18 | captbrogers | I haven't signed up yet, I may next week. I'm still debating about it |
| 06:08.28 | captbrogers | Has yours been iffy? |
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| 16:10.24 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 16:10.24 | raifbot | The quickest way to a man's heart is with Chuck Norris's fist. |
| 16:14.29 | influx | ha |
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| 16:39.55 | TuxToaster | ~Joanna++ |
| 16:40.02 | TuxToaster | great pressentation last night :-) |
| 16:48.15 | carmony | I'll pass the news along :) |
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| 16:53.38 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:53.38 | raifbot | frags TuxToaster with his BFG9000. |
| 16:53.44 | TuxToaster | d'oh |
| 16:53.54 | TuxToaster | that's twice I've been fragged in two days. |
| 16:53.55 | Monnok | isnt that twice in 2 days? |
| 16:53.58 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 16:54.33 | TuxToaster | $8ball is raifbot out to get me? |
| 16:54.33 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Without a doubt. |
| 16:54.37 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 16:54.51 | Monnok | $rlart |
| 16:54.51 | raifbot | strangles carmony with a 9-pole serial cable. |
| 16:55.16 | Monnok | there, its not just you raifbot hates |
| 16:55.20 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:57.44 | carmony | lol... :P |
| 17:02.41 | TuxToaster | $lart Chuck Norris |
| 17:02.41 | raifbot | duct-tapes Chuck Norris to the floor and drools on him. |
| 17:02.45 | TuxToaster | woot |
| 17:03.12 | TuxToaster | need to find a non-standard space that is a bit narrower though. :-) |
| 17:29.49 | TuxToaster | wow. http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5766/ellylawoxfordemailcopy.jpg |
| 17:30.05 | TuxToaster | not often that someone sends a rejection TO a university |
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| 18:04.19 | Bikerdan | Just used git bisect for the first time. Sweeeeet |
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| 18:05.59 | TuxToaster | Bikerdan: nice |
| 18:06.10 | PoeticIntensity | yo.... I need a quick favor. |
| 18:06.22 | PoeticIntensity | Could someone go to blendtec.com and see if they can get the main video to play on the home page? |
| 18:06.23 | Bikerdan | who? |
| 18:06.33 | PoeticIntensity | (big video in the middle of the screen) |
| 18:06.50 | Bikerdan | Where is it... I don't see it... |
| 18:06.51 | mahelious | skinner: you around? can i msg you? |
| 18:06.53 | Bikerdan | :P |
| 18:06.55 | carmony | just a spinning dial for me |
| 18:06.58 | TuxToaster | PoeticIntensity: just spinning |
| 18:07.01 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... crap. |
| 18:07.01 | Bikerdan | Just churning |
| 18:07.03 | carmony | PoeticIntensity: ^^ |
| 18:07.05 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 18:07.27 | Bikerdan | No problem |
| 18:09.07 | TuxToaster | PoeticIntensity: what format is the video itself in? |
| 18:09.21 | PoeticIntensity | it's pulling a youtube video. |
| 18:09.31 | PoeticIntensity | it's just a skinned youtube player. |
| 18:09.43 | PoeticIntensity | and the video itself plays just fine at youtube.com |
| 18:09.45 | TuxToaster | http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/forums/jw-player/setup-issues-and-embedding/11823/spinning-wheel-have-to-click-twice-to-start-video- <-- might be helpful |
| 18:10.02 | TuxToaster | yours is doing the same thing, kind of ... if you click twice it does try to play |
| 18:10.16 | TuxToaster | although in that case you get a different spinner behind the JW play icon |
| 18:10.16 | PoeticIntensity | yeah, but never actually plays. |
| 18:10.21 | PoeticIntensity | right. |
| 18:10.32 | carmony | PoeticIntensity: you work at blendtec? |
| 18:10.40 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for the investigative work, TuxToaster! |
| 18:10.45 | PoeticIntensity | carmony, yup, and I love it. |
| 18:11.02 | carmony | can I haz a blender? |
| 18:11.05 | carmony | :P |
| 18:11.18 | PoeticIntensity | of course! We sell hundreds every day. :) |
| 18:11.42 | PoeticIntensity | although I do work at Blendtec, we all know what I *really* do..... |
| 18:11.44 | Monnok | carmony: its "i can haz blender?" |
| 18:11.48 | PoeticIntensity | *evil menacing grin* |
| 18:11.54 | carmony | Monnok: lol |
| 18:11.58 | Monnok | SOMEbody doesnt read enough lolcats |
| 18:12.51 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 18:12.52 | mindjuju_ | that's prolly a good thing |
| 18:20.14 | TuxToaster | PoeticIntensity: funny thing is it does the same thing if you put in the info you have in the plugin on their code builder on the JW site |
| 18:21.56 | PoeticIntensity | hmmm... that leaves out the possibility that it's something we're doing.... either that or it's the video itself... |
| 18:22.19 | PoeticIntensity | (thanks again, TuxToaster ) |
| 18:22.28 | TuxToaster | yup, no prob. |
| 18:22.39 | TuxToaster | one of the suggestions on that first page was to use an older version (5.0 I think) of JW |
| 18:27.02 | PoeticIntensity | hmm... |
| 18:27.18 | PoeticIntensity | I don't think we updated anything, and it stopped working (as far as we know) this morning. It's been working for months. |
| 18:27.28 | TuxToaster | it might be just the video |
| 18:27.33 | TuxToaster | http://www.longtailvideo.com/support/jw-player-setup-wizard?example=205 <--- |
| 18:27.43 | TuxToaster | their example video is a YouTube embed, works just fine |
| 18:28.01 | TuxToaster | but putting in yours spins, even if you encode the url the same way they do |
| 18:30.10 | PoeticIntensity | right. |
| 18:34.22 | PoeticIntensity | hrm... I just tried embedding the video alone (in an iframe) and it works just fine. |
| 18:34.25 | TuxToaster | yeah if it just stopped working suddenly this morning, I'd assume it's some glitch with YouTube's chromeless player that JW uses. Might want to switch it to a standard YouTube embed as a temporary workaround so that it still plays |
| 18:34.33 | TuxToaster | haha, was just suggesting trying that |
| 18:34.38 | PoeticIntensity | right. |
| 18:35.05 | TuxToaster | no idea why it would only have problems on that video though, but YouTube is a bit silly that way |
| 18:35.29 | TuxToaster | we had problems with part of their API just not working at all a few weeks ago, was fine the next day |
| 18:38.40 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 18:38.41 | raifbot | squeezes uxp till uxp turns blue like papa smurf. |
| 18:40.26 | PoeticIntensity | updated the main page to use the straight youtube video.... Workin' great. |
| 18:40.40 | PoeticIntensity | now I've gotta decide whether or not to tell someone, or wait and see if anybody notices. :) |
| 18:40.57 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:41.03 | TuxToaster | most people don't pay any notice |
| 18:41.24 | TuxToaster | I like JW for the fact that you can skin the player |
| 18:41.50 | TuxToaster | but now that YouTube updated their chrome to the darker layout and gives some size options, I've found it's really kind of a moot point |
| 18:42.36 | TuxToaster | the big benefit I see with something like JW is if you have videos from multiple sources then it helps with consistency, but I'd say most users pay it little notice with all that's out there |
| 18:42.48 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 18:43.45 | TuxToaster | (or if you're hosting your own videos, of course) |
| 18:47.36 | TuxToaster | wow. http://plugins.jquery.com/ |
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| 18:59.32 | wps | hiiiiii-ah! |
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| 20:09.13 | mahelious | using 100MB of 7GB in gmail... |
| 20:09.38 | mahelious | does anyone know if an attempt has been made to use gmail as a cloud service? |
| 20:10.34 | mahelious | might be interesting to setup a rest server using POP3 and SMTP. |
| 20:10.36 | tierra | yeah, actually well before the "cloud" ever came around |
| 20:11.41 | tierra | there's a fuse plugin called GmailFS that's been around nearly since Gmail first came out |
| 20:12.49 | mahelious | darn, was hoping i was coming up with something original. still, i think i have to check this out now |
| 20:12.53 | mahelious | ~tierra++ |
| 20:14.21 | TuxToaster | yeah, it's hard to come up with something that *someone* hasn't thought of |
| 20:14.27 | TuxToaster | kind of annoying, really. lol |
| 20:14.59 | TuxToaster | especially when you come up with a name for something to find out someone already thought of that, but their account or product has been dormant for years |
| 20:26.08 | mahelious | co-worker is getting lunch for the office and asks me what I like. "I like pizza. I LIIIKE it." |
| 20:26.14 | mahelious | "I like steve." |
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| 20:51.39 | mgeary | what is the best way to prevent too many apache processes from spawning and sucking up all my memory? |
| 20:51.45 | mgeary | which config(s) do i limit? |
| 20:52.15 | mgeary | MaxClients ? |
| 20:53.32 | jtsnow | mgeary: yup... was just doing that yesterday |
| 20:55.20 | mgeary | and once that limit is hit |
| 20:55.31 | mindjuju_ | page can not be displayed |
| 20:55.33 | mgeary | requests are queued up, and people have a slower response time? |
| 20:55.47 | mindjuju_ | no queue, page can not be displayed |
| 20:55.52 | mgeary | ListenBackLog |
| 20:56.01 | mgeary | Maximum length of the queue of pending connections |
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| 21:21.17 | TuxToaster | wow it's warm outside |
| 21:21.34 | TuxToaster | (only in Utah is 50 degrees warm) |
| 21:22.17 | TuxToaster | pretty sure that piece of chocolate cake I Just had negated any good effects that the walk I took may have had though. |
| 21:22.58 | TuxToaster | mgeary: had I been here earlier I might have suggested using something other than apache. :P |
| 21:23.59 | TuxToaster | the weird thing is when I used apache previously, it didn't seem to matter what configs I limited, we had a ton of problems with apache just randomly spawning several hundred processes under load |
| 21:28.36 | mgeary | hrm. i'm having some https problems |
| 21:36.29 | mgeary | ah, there we go |
| 21:36.46 | macnewbold | life is better with https |
| 21:36.55 | mgeary | amen |
| 21:37.18 | josePHPagoda | agreed |
| 21:39.09 | itimber | can deep packet inspection break down the encryption layer? |
| 21:39.26 | jsmith | itimber: Only if it has the private key |
| 21:39.31 | itimber | ya |
| 21:39.49 | itimber | so, if SOPA and PIPA passes, will we see an increase in https traffic? |
| 21:40.04 | itimber | since they can't be inspected at the ISP level |
| 21:48.42 | unum | the ip can be |
| 21:51.49 | unum | looks like some people where claiming that ip blocking would require deep packet inspection |
| 21:52.21 | unum | I don't see why that would be required unless your block tor/proxy access which I would assume would already be encrypted |
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| 22:32.52 | Utah_Dave | well, SOPA wanted to block dns. Most dns isn't encrypted right now, even if the data stream is encrypted |
| 22:47.03 | stderr- | psh, I encrypt my DNS |
| 22:51.58 | Utah_Dave | stderr-: You're not normal. :) |
| 22:57.42 | mgeary | hey, if i have a wildcard ssl cert, do i assume correctly that i still need a dedicated IP for each protected FQDN? |
| 22:58.04 | SunSparc | Yes, but they can be the same IP. |
| 22:59.04 | SunSparc | Well, technically. But it is usually best to have separate ones. |
| 22:59.22 | macnewbold | mgeary: the need for distinct IPs arises from the fact that the SSL negotiation happens before you know what site they're asking for |
| 22:59.30 | macnewbold | so on that IP, it will always give out the same cert |
| 22:59.40 | mgeary | ah, sure |
| 22:59.42 | mgeary | makes sense |
| 22:59.43 | macnewbold | if it's a wildcard, then you could put any site on that ip for which that is the right cert |
| 23:00.05 | macnewbold | all of our *.vivint.com stuff that's on the same server runs on the same wildcard cert and iirc is on the same ip |
| 23:07.32 | tierra | it's actually really nothing to do with the cert (and whether it's wildcard or not)... it's more about whether the requests coming into the server will be making correct use of SNI or not... if you have visitors directly connecting to those web servers using Windows XP, then you don't, so you should be using different IPs |
| 23:08.08 | mgeary | yeah, that makes sense |
| 23:09.24 | tierra | on the other hand, if you have the web servers behind a load balancer with SSL termination (and possible re-engagement, but with proper SNI even for WinXP visitors) back to the web servers, then your web servers can do everything on one IP |
| 23:09.52 | tierra | including multiple SSL certs for completely different domains |
| 23:12.13 | tierra | although, your load balancer will need individual IPs for each unique SSL cert |
| 23:15.48 | tierra | I do find the load balancer trick with SSL termination to be very handy, even if you still require end-to-end encryption which you can re-encrypt with any cert you need (which can be self-signed)... pulls the entire issue of SNI-compatible clients right out of the picture for the web servers :) |
