| 00:01.30 | Bikerdan | Who is your favorite hosting company allowing PHP and MySQL that would cost roughly 10 - 15 bucks a month? |
| 00:02.11 | jsmith | Why not use OpenShift from Red Hat, and not pay a thing :-p |
| 00:02.35 | josePHPagoda | Bikerdan: i'm biased towards pagodabox |
| 00:02.41 | Bikerdan | hmmmm |
| 00:02.47 | Bikerdan | I wonder why? |
| 00:02.50 | josePHPagoda | mind if I pm you? |
| 00:02.53 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 00:02.53 | Bikerdan | nope |
| 00:02.56 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 00:02.59 | josePHPagoda | i'm interested in hearig more of what you are trying to do |
| 00:02.59 | herlo | josePHPagoda: can't see how? :) |
| 00:03.27 | josePHPagoda | how what? |
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| 00:19.51 | mgeary | hey beandog, you around? |
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| 01:25.42 | josephscott | $rlart |
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| 01:25.59 | jsmith | Whee! |
| 01:26.08 | jsmith | What kind of animal do you see me as? |
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| 03:38.50 | carmony | hmmmm, worried I didn't make it the tek12 talks :/ |
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| 04:18.57 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 04:18.57 | raifbot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Utah_Dave. |
| 04:50.04 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 04:50.05 | raifbot | Chuck Norris hears sign language |
| 04:50.57 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 04:52.53 | ninnypants | he feels the vibrations caused by the hand movements in the air |
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| 05:50.44 | beandog_ | whoops, I guess I didn't log off at work |
| 05:51.38 | herlo | nice one! |
| 05:51.41 | herlo | :P |
| 05:52.10 | beandog_ | derp |
| 05:52.23 | herlo | hi beandog_, nice to see you :) |
| 05:52.29 | beandog_ | herlo: how's it |
| 05:53.26 | herlo | beandog_: going well, ramping up for FUDCon and SCaLE in the next two weeks. |
| 05:53.33 | herlo | get to see the kiddo next week, too. |
| 05:53.39 | beandog_ | right on |
| 05:53.43 | beandog_ | are those all in CA? |
| 05:54.21 | herlo | no, one in Blacksburg VA (FUDCon), the other is in California |
| 05:55.45 | herlo | beandog_: Blacksburg is where Virginia Tech is located, if that helps |
| 05:56.42 | beandog_ | man, you are travel central |
| 05:59.21 | herlo | beandog_: I've been nowhere since before christmas :) |
| 05:59.43 | herlo | I think my last trip ended 12/16 |
| 06:01.13 | beandog_ | wow |
| 06:01.16 | beandog_ | I can't stand travelling |
| 06:02.44 | herlo | why? |
| 06:03.41 | herlo | I really enjoy it, nice to see new face and places. I tend to travel to hang out with people I know in those cities as well, it's hard to visit them otherwise a lot of the time. |
| 06:04.05 | herlo | yes you have |
| 06:04.07 | ninnypants | *plane |
| 06:04.10 | herlo | but maybe not a plane :) |
| 06:04.13 | herlo | lol |
| 06:04.26 | ninnypants | yeah just realized what I said when I re-read it :) |
| 06:05.01 | herlo | hehe |
| 06:05.05 | herlo | I do that sometimes |
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| 08:24.15 | ninnypants | anyone around? |
| 08:30.23 | Nafai | no |
| 08:30.48 | ninnypants | oh good |
| 08:31.05 | ninnypants | hey Nafai how are you? |
| 08:31.20 | Nafai | ok |
| 08:32.36 | ninnypants | how's work? |
| 08:33.15 | Nafai | oh, not bad atm. |
| 08:33.25 | Nafai | I need to find a bit more immediate paying work though |
| 08:33.40 | ninnypants | makes sense |
| 08:34.11 | ninnypants | ok got a question for you |
| 08:34.28 | ninnypants | can you understand the pseudo code here? http://api.stackable.com/docs/files/Protocol-txt.html#JSON_Proxy_with_signature |
| 08:35.15 | ninnypants | it looks like I should just hash my timestamp and json together using my apikey as the key but it doesn't seem to work |
| 08:35.21 | ninnypants | authenticate that is |
| 08:36.29 | Nafai | yeah, that's what I'm reading it as |
| 08:36.48 | Nafai | Is your timestamp in the correct format? |
| 08:37.39 | ninnypants | yeah it is |
| 08:38.06 | ninnypants | had to have it in the correct format for the Signature-Created header to work |
| 08:39.51 | Nafai | I don't know much about the PHP apis to do this, but if you could pastebin the portion that follows that pseudocode (if you can), perhaps I could see if anything stands out |
| 08:41.19 | ninnypants | http://pastebin.com/en8di8t1 |
| 08:41.32 | ninnypants | http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.hash-hmac.php |
| 08:42.40 | Nafai | looking |
| 08:45.06 | Nafai | If $created.$json is doing concatenation, it looks "right" to me, as I'm reading the algorithm |
| 08:45.23 | ninnypants | yeah . is a concat in php |
| 08:45.51 | ninnypants | that's what I was thinking too I'll talk to support tomorrow maybe |
| 08:46.15 | Nafai | maybe it needs a blank line between the two or something? |
| 08:46.18 | ninnypants | I've got it working with the less secure version so it's not urgent but it might be nice |
| 08:46.37 | ninnypants | maybe I wouldn't think the function would auto add them though |
| 08:46.46 | ninnypants | pseudo code function that is |
| 08:47.33 | Nafai | yeah, I'm just trying to see what else it might be |
| 08:47.47 | ninnypants | yeah I can't see anything either |
| 08:48.05 | ninnypants | oh well maybe I'll talk to support but I better get to bed since I need to be up for work in the am |
| 08:48.08 | Nafai | wait, does it need raw output? |
| 08:48.21 | Nafai | (looking at hash_hmac documentation) |
| 08:48.48 | ninnypants | possible I don't know why I didn't try that |
| 08:51.37 | ninnypants | hmm raw output seems to give me an empty string |
| 08:54.25 | ninnypants | yeah didn't seem to work |
| 08:54.29 | Nafai | oh well |
| 08:54.38 | ninnypants | any have a good one Nafai |
| 08:54.44 | Nafai | night |
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| 15:29.32 | mindjuju | hey macnewbold, got a moment for a qq ? |
| 15:29.46 | macnewbold | sup mj |
| 15:29.50 | macnewbold | course i do for you |
| 15:30.10 | mindjuju | "quite" in spanish is to remove, right? |
| 15:30.54 | macnewbold | yes, past tense for "i removed" or "I took away" generally |
| 15:31.02 | mindjuju | Please remove me off your email list. --> Por favor quite me fuera de su lista de correo. |
| 15:31.13 | macnewbold | yeah, they should understand that well enough |
| 15:31.26 | mindjuju | awesome, thx |
| 15:31.29 | macnewbold | mp |
| 15:31.31 | macnewbold | np |
| 15:31.37 | macnewbold | good luck getting off your spanish spam list |
| 15:32.34 | mindjuju | it's actually a ph.D candidate professor teaching business |
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| 15:33.05 | mindjuju | oh, in costa rica |
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| 15:50.18 | mindjuju | ~apb DtD |
| 15:50.18 | ibot | ACTION hires Beth to stake out DtD |
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| 16:03.53 | influx | I can has paycheck? |
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| 16:04.09 | jsmith | ~buy influx paycheck |
| 16:04.09 | ibot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen paychecks for influx |
| 16:04.28 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 16:04.28 | raifbot | Darth Vader dresses up as Chuck Norris for Halloween. |
| 16:04.40 | Monnok | ~tuesday |
| 16:04.40 | ibot | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 16:04.52 | Monnok | omg ibot agrees with me! |
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| 16:19.21 | josePHPagoda | hi everyone! |
| 16:19.59 | influx | jsmith: :) |
| 16:20.13 | influx | josePHPagoda: Howdy! |
| 16:20.22 | Monnok | mornin |
| 16:20.57 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:20.58 | raifbot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats Nafai until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with. |
| 16:21.58 | TuxToaster | raifbot: there are 46 people in here, you don't need to pick on Nafai all the time :P |
| 16:31.50 | Monnok | ya im not that smart |
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| 16:54.09 | carmony | anyone going to PHP Tek this year? :P |
| 16:55.41 | josePHPagoda | i might be |
| 16:55.46 | josePHPagoda | don't know for sure though |
| 17:03.29 | carmony | I might consider splitting a room for the trip if I don't get a speaker's package |
| 17:04.46 | mindjuju | 2 questions: (1 - do you snore; (2 - how many are there in the room? |
| 17:04.52 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 17:09.44 | herlo | mindjuju: 1) it doesn't matter, get earplugs; 2) It doesn't matter, you'll be comfy :) |
| 17:09.59 | mindjuju | oh, i didn't mean rooms, i meant beds |
| 17:10.03 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:10.08 | mindjuju | i was just teasin though |
| 17:10.15 | herlo | mindjuju: see 2) |
| 17:10.19 | herlo | :P |
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| 17:19.29 | carmony | lol |
| 17:19.33 | carmony | funny 404 page: http://store.shinywhitebox.com/ishowuhd/main.html |
| 17:22.29 | Monnok | heh, not sure what the sheep has to do with it |
| 17:23.20 | mindjuju | i was wondering that myself |
| 17:23.53 | mindjuju | have yall seen all the advertising godaddy has been doing lately? plus they have a sale going on right now |
| 17:24.11 | mindjuju | poor devils, should have thought about things before deciding to act like punks |
| 17:24.20 | mindjuju | and the SOPA stuff |
| 17:24.56 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 17:24.56 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the evil rooster chop knocking off an appendage! |
| 17:25.18 | mindjuju | sup DtD |
| 17:25.38 | DexterTheDragon | not much. you? |
| 17:25.59 | mindjuju | oh hey, now i remember why I ~apb 'd you |
| 17:26.11 | mindjuju | i was going to give you a mix i found on the webs |
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| 17:26.35 | captbrogers | $8ball Is today shaping up to be as bad as I think it is? |
| 17:26.35 | raifbot | captbrogers - Outlook not so good. |
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| 17:26.40 | captbrogers | Frak. |
| 17:27.29 | mindjuju | DtD, just posted it to dropbox, i'll PM you the URL |
| 17:27.53 | ninnypants | captbrogers: you could always storm out |
| 17:28.24 | captbrogers | I could, but I have no where to storm to. I could begrudgingly go to Denny's, order water and waste time on memebase.com |
| 17:28.41 | ninnypants | mindjuju: did gravityforms work for you? |
| 17:29.04 | mindjuju | @ninnypants - it's installed and updated, working on that this afternoon |
| 17:29.15 | ninnypants | captbrogers: you could go play some mini golf |
| 17:29.16 | mindjuju | but looks VERY promising so far from what i read / did |
| 17:29.55 | ninnypants | cool we've used it for all kinds of things and it's worked well |
| 17:30.14 | mindjuju | DtD - if it starts to bore you, jump to minute 42, the ending is fantastic |
| 17:30.18 | captbrogers | ninnypants: too cold, and all the indoor ones banned me for playing as if each hole where a very long and complicated pool shot |
| 17:30.33 | mindjuju | ninnypants - what you listening to over there, you like electronica, dont you? |
| 17:31.22 | ninnypants | mindjuju: my entire house has basically been on a non stop skrillex loop because the kid loves it and is less likely to cry while it's on |
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| 17:31.46 | wps | fun new commercial my company made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZSt6anJH1g |
| 17:32.24 | ninnypants | mindjuju: also recently got the latest monstercat album(mix of artists) and boom boom satellites |
| 17:36.27 | ninnypants | mindjuju: this is ninnypants v2.0 favorite electronic track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8h4-DUP_8 |
| 17:50.22 | influx | boom boom satellites is still around? Neato. |
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| 17:53.13 | influx | Heard about them through a compilation a little over a decade ago. |
| 17:57.58 | influx | There's an artist whose work was also on that compilation, but I haven't been able to find it again. |
| 17:58.14 | influx | Tomovsky is the name, IIRC. |
| 17:58.40 | ninnypants | influx: I don't know if they're still around I just heard their music and searched them out |
| 18:02.09 | influx | Ah. |
| 18:02.55 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: "Quíteme de su lista email, por favor" |
| 18:03.10 | Utah_Dave | or "Saquenme de su lista email, por favor |
| 18:03.15 | macnewbold | muy bien |
| 18:03.18 | macnewbold | de acuerdo |
| 18:03.51 | macnewbold | or if you're in a playful mood, something like "que vayan proto al infierno" works too |
| 18:04.23 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 18:04.53 | influx | A la pelada, Dude. Vamos a jugar boliche. |
| 18:11.07 | mindjuju | utah_Dave, i didn't know you spoke spanish! |
| 18:11.36 | mindjuju | curious,i should have guessed though |
| 18:11.41 | PoeticIntensity | por supuesto que lo habla! Es en la sangre... |
| 18:11.52 | mindjuju | we were talking about Spanish Christmas customs on FB the other day |
| 18:12.01 | PoeticIntensity | Mamacita! |
| 18:12.09 | mindjuju | oh, and you mentioned your wife cooking spanish food once |
| 18:12.26 | mindjuju | utah_dave, where is your wife from? |
| 18:12.44 | mindjuju | too funny PI |
| 18:12.49 | mindjuju | what's been going on in your camp? |
| 18:16.57 | PoeticIntensity | well... right now, I'm considering buying another bass guitar. |
| 18:17.13 | PoeticIntensity | I can get this one for $300.00 |
| 18:17.14 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/esp-ltd-b-205sm-5-string-electric-bass-guitar |
| 18:17.43 | PoeticIntensity | The studio only has one 4-string, and this looks to be a good deal, but I'm having a hard time finding reviews for it online... |
| 18:17.56 | PoeticIntensity | (and I will have never played it until it arrives after purchase) |
| 18:18.06 | mindjuju | looks awesome! |
| 18:18.16 | PoeticIntensity | agreed! :) |
| 18:18.54 | PoeticIntensity | Nothin' much other than the usual... |
| 18:19.01 | PoeticIntensity | What's up with you, mindjuju ? |
| 18:19.37 | mindjuju | writing up a proposal on additional cooling for the server room |
| 18:19.51 | PoeticIntensity | ah, nice! |
| 18:19.55 | mindjuju | man, i wish you were here the other day, i came up with an awesome idea for will it blend, but now i've forgotten it, i'll have to mull on it |
| 18:23.18 | mindjuju | ~blend jsmith |
| 18:23.18 | ibot | ACTION takes jsmith and throws him/her into a Blendtec 2000 along with some onions, ketchup, zucchini, and chocolate syrup, presses the "putrify" button and serves up mindjuju's favorite: jsmith gruel |
| 18:23.38 | mindjuju | funny! |
| 18:23.39 | jsmith | ~lart mindjuju |
| 18:23.39 | ibot | takes out mindjuju with the trash |
| 18:23.40 | PoeticIntensity | ha! |
| 18:25.20 | PoeticIntensity | for your Tuesday entertainment, I present to you the latest video from the studio.... |
| 18:25.27 | influx | *drumroll* |
| 18:25.33 | PoeticIntensity | Ricky Cardoso's "Aftertaste" |
| 18:25.38 | influx | *crash* |
| 18:25.39 | PoeticIntensity | Drumming by yours truly. |
| 18:25.41 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8lScDVj2Pg |
| 18:27.04 | mindjuju | that audio sounds fantastic PI! |
| 18:28.16 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, dude! |
| 18:28.23 | Bikerdan | Is Skinner around? |
| 18:28.49 | skinner | ~say I believe he is |
| 18:28.49 | ibot | I believe he is |
| 18:29.25 | ninnypants | ~skinner skinner |
| 18:29.25 | ibot | ACTION buries skinner in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 18:29.40 | influx | Kudos, PoeticIntensity. :) |
| 18:29.42 | Bikerdan | Nice work Poetic |
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| 18:30.12 | Bikerdan | Man. I bet you could make me sound like a freakin genious! ;) |
| 18:30.26 | PoeticIntensity | You play, Bikerdan ? |
| 18:30.30 | Bikerdan | I haven't played the drums for a while though. I'm a little rusty |
| 18:30.36 | carmony | whew, blog post done w/ all the examples and stuff like that...... http://www.justincarmony.com/blog/2012/01/10/php-workers-with-redis-solo/ |
| 18:30.39 | Bikerdan | I have a set but no where to play them. |
| 18:30.45 | Bikerdan | :( |
| 18:30.48 | PoeticIntensity | well that sucks. |
| 18:30.50 | Bikerdan | Yeah |
| 18:30.53 | Bikerdan | Tell me about it |
| 18:31.04 | Bikerdan | I'm actually piecing it out. |
| 18:31.09 | PoeticIntensity | no! |
| 18:31.12 | mindjuju | i play a mean triangle but the cow bell is hard for me |
| 18:31.17 | Bikerdan | Hoping to get an electric set some day |
| 18:31.23 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... I almost bought a cowbell the other day. |
| 18:31.29 | Bikerdan | I have a cowbell |
| 18:31.33 | Bikerdan | Tama |
| 18:31.35 | Bikerdan | For sale |
| 18:31.37 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 18:31.46 | PoeticIntensity | does it come with a mount? |
| 18:31.53 | mindjuju | i guess Tama is good? |
| 18:32.02 | influx | Make sure the mount title is purple. |
| 18:32.05 | PoeticIntensity | Not for cowbells, but they're not horrible. |
| 18:32.18 | Bikerdan | I'm actually not sure. I'll have to check. |
| 18:32.21 | Bikerdan | It's been that long |
| 18:32.34 | PoeticIntensity | I see.... It is a bigger one, or smaller? |
| 18:32.38 | Bikerdan | Smaller |
| 18:32.44 | PoeticIntensity | darn. |
| 18:32.52 | Bikerdan | Probably 3 inches wide or so |
| 18:32.53 | dezertol | PoeticIntensity when you asked if the cowbell came with a mount.. I had a visual of you on a cow.. trying to rid it threw the world of war craft |
| 18:32.54 | PoeticIntensity | I've had both, and small ones just drive me crazy. |
| 18:33.00 | Bikerdan | Not sure what you mean by small |
| 18:33.02 | skinner | ~say ~skinner raifbot |
| 18:33.02 | ibot | ~skinner raifbot |
| 18:33.06 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL! |
| 18:33.22 | carmony | PoeticIntensity: I should introduce you to my buddy who is a pretty awesome artist down in SLC. |
| 18:33.35 | PoeticIntensity | artist as in musician? |
| 18:33.39 | PoeticIntensity | or "art"ist? |
| 18:33.51 | carmony | musician |
| 18:34.09 | carmony | he did this song -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWQkf2BrZ1U |
| 18:34.25 | skinner | Bikerdan: Skinner is a-round, but with continued weight loss that should fix it. Did you need him fer somthin? |
| 18:34.30 | carmony | which, if you look, my dad ended up putting a picture of when I was a kid in there :P |
| 18:34.52 | Bikerdan | Looks almost just like this cowbell. Seems like it was a little lower though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9syGd4EsijA |
| 18:35.01 | Bikerdan | Hey skinner. |
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| 18:35.18 | skinner | hey! |
| 18:35.20 | Bikerdan | I was asking around about SolutionStream yesterday and someone mentioned you might have more info. |
| 18:35.38 | skinner | I do. Happens to be where I work |
| 18:35.53 | Bikerdan | What do you think of it? As a place to work in general? |
| 18:35.59 | Bikerdan | We can pm if you'd like |
| 18:36.46 | PoeticIntensity | wow, carmony ... He's got a great voice. |
| 18:37.31 | carmony | yeah, he is pretty darn good |
| 18:37.42 | PoeticIntensity | interesting sound for the "kick drum".... |
| 18:37.42 | carmony | he has an EP out on iTunes |
| 18:38.03 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... this video sounds like it's munging the audio a lot. |
| 18:38.13 | carmony | yeah, the HD is a lot better |
| 18:38.23 | PoeticIntensity | I did it on 720, and it still sounds like crap. |
| 18:38.28 | carmony | lol |
| 18:38.33 | carmony | you got the ears then |
| 18:38.33 | carmony | ;) |
| 18:38.47 | carmony | http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/entelechy-ep/id459106775 |
| 18:38.49 | PoeticIntensity | I really like the arrangement. |
| 18:38.52 | carmony | "All of This" |
| 18:38.57 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: not a bad mix |
| 18:39.04 | PoeticIntensity | great use of differing percussion and rhythms. |
| 18:39.51 | PoeticIntensity | okay.... the 720 doesn't sound like crap anymore... Took a bit for the audio upgrade to come in. |
| 18:50.37 | ninnypants | carmony: nice post |
| 18:50.44 | carmony | ninnypants: thanks :) |
| 19:05.38 | captbrogers | Somedays my IDE's code completion feels like reading a book to a child. "And the dog...", "What's his name?!", "I'M GETTING TO THAT!!" |
| 19:14.17 | ninnypants | http://cosbygifs.tumblr.com/post/7846622240/jesus-h-tap-dancing-cosby-thecos-holy-tap |
| 19:14.57 | mahelious | ~captbrogers++ |
| 19:15.14 | mahelious | good thing i wasnt drinking anything when i read that. |
| 19:17.12 | captbrogers | I have kids, so I know that is very accurate. Some times I can't get through a single page without my daughter having to do something to interrupt me. |
| 19:17.41 | captbrogers | And I don't mean a normal page, I mean a Dr. Suess page. A page with two sentences |
| 19:18.25 | ninnypants | I read my kid a whole book with no interuptions |
| 19:18.36 | skinner | Cause they were asleep? |
| 19:18.42 | dezertol | my fav is when they climb up on the desk.. and slowly inch their faces closer asking you if you can see them yet |
| 19:18.43 | captbrogers | Seriously |
| 19:18.47 | ninnypants | nah he's less than a month old :) |
| 19:18.53 | captbrogers | Ah |
| 19:19.24 | captbrogers | My three year old will start kicking the wall, ask for my phone to play games, ask for my wife tablet to play, ask to watch a movie, ask what 42 means... |
| 19:19.51 | ninnypants | do you tell her it's the meaning of life? |
| 19:19.53 | wps | in my framework, I have modules and libraries |
| 19:20.01 | wps | insider of modules there are models |
| 19:20.11 | wps | I need a name for the things inside of libraries |
| 19:20.16 | wps | best I have come up with is components |
| 19:20.22 | dezertol | I had to tape a quarter over the power button on my desktop.. .. the little glowy light was to much to resist to push |
| 19:20.26 | wps | any ideas for other/better names? |
| 19:22.01 | captbrogers | ninnypants: not just life, but the universe and everything as well |
| 19:22.51 | skinner | wps: hive? |
| 19:22.53 | captbrogers | wps: books? |
| 19:22.59 | captbrogers | tomes? |
| 19:23.05 | ninnypants | I figured she'd have to wait a bit to be able to handle the universe being part of it ;) |
| 19:23.20 | captbrogers | I'm not trying to be a jerk, I mean seriously. Sometimes I find it's easy to go with a theme that seems rather simple |
| 19:23.38 | ninnypants | wps: Russian Nesting Doll |
| 19:23.49 | captbrogers | Oh she handles it, for about five seconds. Then both of our ADD kicks in and we decide to play games on my phone |
| 19:24.20 | captbrogers | An hour later my wife comes in and gets after me for not putting the kids to bed. They are both laying with me on one bed while we all play bejeweled |
| 19:28.18 | mahelious | wps: books are typically in libraries... |
| 19:28.21 | fungus | Gah, Gnome installed by default on SLES? WTF? |
| 19:28.47 | herlo | fungus: that's the way it's been for years |
| 19:29.04 | fungus | eww |
| 19:29.18 | mindjuju | sup herlo |
| 19:29.27 | herlo | mindjuju: hi |
| 19:29.30 | herlo | fungus: I know |
| 19:29.32 | mindjuju | hey, what you running for a launcher on your phone? |
| 19:30.04 | fungus | I wish I could. |
| 19:30.19 | herlo | SLES should be renamed to PITA |
| 19:30.45 | fungus | Stupid app requires RHEL or SLES. And SLES is free via VMware, so I'm stuck. |
| 19:31.19 | mahelious | if it supports RHEL it should support Centos |
| 19:31.21 | herlo | heh, you can use CentOS |
| 19:31.31 | herlo | fungus: I bet it's just /etc/redhat-release |
| 19:31.53 | herlo | mahelious: sometimes it's a support problem though, not just moving to the free copy |
| 19:32.06 | fungus | yeah, support problem. |
| 19:32.17 | herlo | like the company that sold you the software won't support it unless it's on another supported platform |
| 19:32.33 | fungus | yup |
| 19:32.37 | fungus | IBM Tivoli stuff |
| 19:32.49 | herlo | fungus: they lie, btw |
| 19:32.55 | fungus | hehe, I know |
| 19:33.01 | herlo | but yeah, I hear ya |
| 19:33.07 | fungus | I've got it to work on Ubuntu. |
| 19:33.18 | fungus | But they point fingers at anything. |
| 19:33.18 | carmony | Hmmm... I really want to play with Puppet |
| 19:33.57 | fungus | Puppet is fun. But it's not the only game in town. |
| 19:33.57 | herlo | carmony: use salt |
| 19:34.12 | carmony | is that the project you've been working on? |
| 19:34.14 | fungus | But IMHO, puppet is the best one in that category |
| 19:34.15 | herlo | written by a guy here in Utah and there's a great support staff |
| 19:34.24 | herlo | fungus: for now :) |
| 19:34.31 | ninnypants | herlo: I thought you changed the name to silver |
| 19:34.36 | herlo | #salt on freenode |
| 19:34.39 | fungus | I thought salt was just remote execution |
| 19:34.41 | ninnypants | or was it silver before |
| 19:34.42 | herlo | ninnypants: not the same thing at all |
| 19:34.47 | fungus | is he adding more? |
| 19:34.51 | herlo | that's a different project |
| 19:35.02 | herlo | fungus: yeah, you haven't seen it in a while, it's full of CM |
| 19:35.04 | ninnypants | ahh |
| 19:35.31 | herlo | he claims it's tons faster than puppet and simpler too. Utah_Dave loves it |
| 19:35.34 | fungus | interesting. I ignored it when I learned it was remote exec in the past. |
| 19:35.57 | herlo | Utah_Dave is working on a windows port, for instance. It supports all sorts of *nix |
| 19:36.12 | fungus | nice. |
| 19:36.53 | herlo | I'm finishing up the packaging for Fedora and epel, should be on everything back to RHEL5 by February |
| 19:38.05 | carmony | herlo: link for salt? |
| 19:40.33 | mindjuju | @carmony - http://saltstack.org/index.html |
| 19:42.20 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I've got preliminary Windows support going. |
| 19:42.44 | Utah_Dave | I've started working on a Windows installer because installing from source is a pain on Windows. |
| 19:43.29 | mindjuju | ~pain utah_dave |
| 19:43.59 | herlo | carmony: Utah_Dave gave it properly :) |
| 20:26.42 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 20:26.43 | raifbot | gives TuxToaster a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades". |
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| 20:27.12 | TuxToaster | nooooooo |
| 20:27.22 | josePHPagoda | harsh |
| 20:28.02 | captbrogers | Does anyone else feel like today is dragging? |
| 20:28.04 | ninnypants | $8ball will TuxToaster only be allowed to run a VM of windows and noting else from now on? |
| 20:28.04 | raifbot | ninnypants - Ask again later. |
| 20:28.29 | josePHPagoda | $8ball is it later yet? |
| 20:28.30 | raifbot | josePHPagoda - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 20:28.39 | ninnypants | captbrogers: kinda but I've still got a lot to do so it's not too bad |
| 20:29.02 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:30.36 | captbrogers | I'm struggling with my 'no caffeine' promise |
| 20:30.42 | ninnypants | raifbot should start waiting 5 minutes and send out another answer |
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| 20:37.14 | influx | ~8ball seppaku? |
| 20:37.14 | ibot | Yes. |
| 20:40.59 | josePHPagoda | that was unexpected |
| 20:41.19 | Monnok | he must have to code in magento |
| 20:41.48 | josePHPagoda | magento is unique |
| 20:42.00 | josePHPagoda | oh, did I tell you, we got a stock magento install to actually perform half decent |
| 20:42.05 | josePHPagoda | ? |
| 20:42.19 | Monnok | you are doing it wrong then |
| 20:42.36 | josePHPagoda | we're just infrastructure providers |
| 20:42.37 | herlo | Monnok: lol |
| 20:42.46 | josePHPagoda | we were able to get it working at around 50 requests a second |
| 20:42.49 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 20:42.52 | herlo | josePHPagoda: I doubt it will perform half decent with any load |
| 20:42.55 | josePHPagoda | which isn't fast, until you realize it's stock magento |
| 20:42.58 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 20:43.03 | herlo | and with any sort of plugins |
| 20:43.20 | herlo | josePHPagoda: what version? |
| 20:43.22 | josePHPagoda | herlo, you're just mr negative |
| 20:43.23 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 20:43.27 | josePHPagoda | the latest |
| 20:43.31 | josePHPagoda | whatever that is |
| 20:43.36 | josePHPagoda | I didn't set up the test environment |
| 20:43.39 | josePHPagoda | i just tested it |
| 20:43.39 | herlo | josePHPagoda: no, I'm Mr 'I have worked with magento and it cannot perform that well' |
| 20:43.47 | Monnok | ive gotten APC to get it to load faster, but it only shaved off 50% time, not the 90% they advertise |
| 20:44.25 | herlo | probably 1.6 |
| 20:44.32 | Monnok | yup |
| 20:44.36 | josePHPagoda | herlo, we published our results |
| 20:44.39 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 20:44.45 | herlo | Monnok: yeah, eaccelerator wasn't that much better |
| 20:44.48 | josePHPagoda | we used eaccelerator, but apc would work well i'm sure |
| 20:44.51 | herlo | and we tweaked the crap out of it |
| 20:45.40 | Monnok | heh i didnt see a difference with eaccelerator |
| 20:45.47 | josePHPagoda | it helped us quite a bit |
| 20:45.54 | herlo | Monnok: we used it at skdy |
| 20:45.57 | josePHPagoda | but you need to configure eaccelerator decently |
| 20:46.08 | josePHPagoda | and it can be tricky at times |
| 20:46.10 | Monnok | musta been after i worked on it |
| 20:46.12 | herlo | though I think they are using APC now since it has more improvements |
| 20:46.20 | herlo | Monnok: or before |
| 20:46.42 | josePHPagoda | but yeah herlo, i'll find the results and send them over |
| 20:46.48 | herlo | Monnok: I did a ton of tweaking and testing before you got your grimy mits all over it :) |
| 20:46.51 | Monnok | hope not, it was gawdawful slow for the longest time |
| 20:46.54 | herlo | josePHPagoda: that'd be awesome |
| 20:46.56 | josePHPagoda | we were able to handle about 72 concurrency too, which is nice |
| 20:47.17 | herlo | Monnok: well, it was partly the infrastructure we were stuck with |
| 20:47.23 | Monnok | yeah |
| 20:47.29 | josePHPagoda | the tests were done across a 10 minute time frame |
| 20:47.34 | josePHPagoda | and the performance held just fine |
| 20:47.42 | herlo | it's better nowadays I'm sure, but I know that skdy is moving in a different direction these days |
| 20:47.52 | josePHPagoda | magento is heavy |
| 20:47.58 | josePHPagoda | and their queries aren't efficient |
| 20:47.59 | Monnok | well josePHPagoda, im glad you did as well as you did |
| 20:48.00 | macnewbold | heavy is an understatement |
| 20:48.01 | herlo | josePHPagoda: glad to hear that the magento folks have been working on improving their code |
| 20:48.08 | macnewbold | "aren't efficient" is a bigger understatement |
| 20:48.15 | herlo | lol |
| 20:48.22 | josePHPagoda | they've made it so you can start leveraging things like memcache and such |
| 20:48.23 | herlo | macnewbold would know *all* about that |
| 20:48.27 | josePHPagoda | but yeah, it's got a ways to go |
| 20:48.33 | herlo | josePHPagoda: that's been there for a while |
| 20:48.42 | herlo | we used memcached for stuff to |
| 20:48.43 | herlo | o |
| 20:49.05 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 20:49.12 | josePHPagoda | also, previous versions didn't do persistent mysql |
| 20:49.14 | josePHPagoda | which was a big pain |
| 20:49.27 | Monnok | must be still under development, cause 1.6 hasnt gotten memcached quite working right |
| 20:50.58 | herlo | Monnok: we were using memcached in 1.4 enterprise and 1.5 communit iirc |
| 20:51.04 | herlo | s/nit/nity/ |
| 20:51.22 | josePHPagoda | also, i figure the diff between magento enterprise and standard must be the sleep(1) placed throughout some of the core code :-P |
| 20:51.32 | Monnok | LOL |
| 20:52.09 | josePHPagoda | herlo: the results are just about to be posted to our blog |
| 20:52.13 | josePHPagoda | i'll send you a link when we've got it done |
| 20:52.37 | Monnok | herlo: you are more skilled at this stuff than I am, so ill take your word for it. It didnt work great out of the box + a day's worth of tweaking for me |
| 20:52.42 | herlo | josePHPagoda: nice |
| 20:52.57 | herlo | Monnok: indeed, it takes more work than that :) |
| 20:53.03 | josePHPagoda | the nice thing, is we're writing a nice magento guide that should make it super easy for people to properly set it up |
| 20:53.19 | herlo | Monnok: I doubt I'm more skilled, the focus for me was just on that sort of stuff |
| 20:53.33 | josePHPagoda | herlo is right, it's all about focus |
| 20:53.36 | Monnok | i bet its both |
| 20:53.59 | herlo | josePHPagoda: lots of people have written those. Will be nice to have one that actually gives proper guidance. Make sure to submit it to the magento community too. |
| 20:54.09 | herlo | Monnok: don't sell yourself short :) |
| 20:54.26 | herlo | :P |
| 20:55.40 | josePHPagoda | yeah, the hard part is, our server config is all done in the Boxfile |
| 20:55.41 | Monnok | im not saying im terrible, but there are def. better people to work on optimization than i |
| 20:55.45 | josePHPagoda | so the guide is relying on that |
| 20:55.56 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:55.56 | raifbot | nabs the moon and broadsides mgeary with the sea of tranquility. |
| 20:56.07 | josePHPagoda | that's rather tranquil |
| 20:56.12 | josePHPagoda | in a non-tranquil sort of way |
| 21:01.47 | herlo | Monnok: glad to hear |
| 21:01.57 | josePHPagoda | http://blog.pagodabox.com/ |
| 21:02.00 | josePHPagoda | it's the latest entry |
| 21:02.27 | herlo | josePHPagoda: okay, send me an email with the actual link :) |
| 21:02.45 | josePHPagoda | http://blog.pagodabox.com/720/ |
| 21:02.48 | josePHPagoda | does it have to be an email? |
| 21:02.51 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:02.56 | josePHPagoda | and if so, PM me the addy you want it to go to |
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| 21:24.37 | josePHPagoda | http://blog.pagodabox.com/magento-hosting-performance-and-server-less-configuratio/ |
| 21:24.40 | josePHPagoda | that's the complete post |
| 21:25.01 | josePHPagoda | what I had sent before was just the draft |
| 21:25.07 | josePHPagoda | this one has pretty graphs :-D |
| 21:34.44 | skinner | BRAIN!!........... ლ(o益oლ) Y U NO WORK!? |
| 21:36.44 | TuxToaster | $lart brain |
| 21:36.45 | raifbot | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at brain. |
| 21:37.05 | josePHPagoda | i don't see that fixing the problem TuxToaster |
| 21:37.20 | TuxToaster | nope, apparently not |
| 21:37.26 | TuxToaster | $save brain |
| 21:37.26 | raifbot | asks the President to please pardon brain |
| 21:37.38 | TuxToaster | eh, that doesn't help much either |
| 21:37.39 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:38.00 | skinner | ~skinner brain |
| 21:38.01 | ibot | ACTION buries brain in a giant waterfall... WHOOOOSH! |
| 21:39.58 | josePHPagoda | things aren't looking good for brain |
| 21:44.09 | mindjuju | when in doubt, PUNT! |
| 21:48.14 | skinner | You'll hear it first......like the sound of a giant waterfall they say. |
| 21:48.20 | skinner | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApWxWnfDKP0 |
| 21:49.30 | mindjuju | touche! |
| 21:51.09 | mindjuju | skinner, that's why i live at the top of a VERY tall hill |
| 21:51.17 | skinner | :) |
| 21:52.26 | mindjuju | skinner - quid pro quo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S2mKXHOeuM |
| 21:56.11 | skinner | ... |
| 21:56.12 | skinner | Wow |
| 21:56.14 | skinner | just.... |
| 21:56.15 | skinner | wow |
| 21:56.21 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 22:08.25 | ninnypants | mindjuju: looks like I'm going to have to get a plane ticket to New York |
| 22:08.45 | ninnypants | afternoon josephscott |
| 22:08.57 | mindjuju | i'm not sure it's afternoon for him |
| 22:09.02 | mindjuju | i think he's in New Zealand |
| 22:09.46 | ninnypants | oh really? I didn't realize |
| 22:10.04 | mindjuju | he posted a pic to his blog from Auckland i think it was |
| 22:10.17 | herlo | who? skinner? |
| 22:10.34 | ninnypants | no but skinner is who I should have spammed |
| 22:11.42 | ninnypants | was testing a plugin that requires the creation of a blog in WordPress and josephscott was a super admin on the site so I think he might have gotten 60 emails or so from it last night :( |
| 22:12.54 | mindjuju | fun |
| 22:16.08 | mindjuju | all i got to say is if josephscott is in New Zealand, he'd better go see Weta Workshop!!!! http://www.wetanz.com/weta-workshop-services/ |
| 22:16.37 | Bikerdan | I didn't know there was a Chuck Norris cartoon. |
| 22:16.44 | mindjuju | yar |
| 22:16.44 | Bikerdan | Where the heck have I been all this time. |
| 22:16.51 | Bikerdan | ? |
| 22:16.58 | Bikerdan | Karate Kommandos |
| 22:17.00 | mindjuju | beandog has the DVDs of it i think |
| 22:17.00 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 22:17.04 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 22:18.49 | Bikerdan | Foreign dood: "That's my bike!" |
| 22:18.54 | Bikerdan | Chuck Norris: "Sorry, it's an emergency. I'm Chuck Norris" |
| 22:18.58 | Bikerdan | Foreign dood: "'sigh' Americans..." |
| 22:19.06 | Bikerdan | Hilarious |
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| 22:24.29 | Bikerdan | Now they tell me... http://lh4.ggpht.com/Nitro2k/R5iKqeNSvWI/AAAAAAAAAug/t43fHNgWHYA/s400/1001.jpg |
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| 22:24.47 | mindjuju | funny |
| 22:26.05 | Bikerdan | http://amazingdata.com/mediadata25/Image/hot_weird_funny_amazing_cool2_weekend-random-hilarious-wt-2d-1_2009072610271815071.jpg |
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| 22:35.53 | Bikerdan | Sorry about that last one.... |
| 22:35.59 | Bikerdan | I'd take it back if I could |
| 22:37.21 | herlo | Bikerdan: no you wouldn't |
| 22:37.23 | herlo | :) |
| 22:37.29 | herlo | ~tinyurl Bikerdan |
| 22:37.29 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=Bikerdan' and laughs maniacally! |
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| 22:42.44 | josePHPagoda | i'm scared to visit that link now |
| 22:43.02 | Bikerdan | The maps.google one? |
| 22:43.06 | josePHPagoda | no |
| 22:43.09 | josePHPagoda | the one you'd take back |
| 22:43.12 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 22:43.15 | Bikerdan | Don't do it. |
| 22:43.25 | josePHPagoda | i haven't yet |
| 22:43.27 | Bikerdan | The image will be burned into your brain forever |
| 22:43.31 | josePHPagoda | but it's an unvisited link |
| 22:43.40 | josePHPagoda | a part left unexplored |
| 22:43.48 | josePHPagoda | in this unexplorered internet |
| 22:43.50 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 22:43.54 | Bikerdan | CONTAIN YOURSELF!!!! |
| 22:44.05 | Bikerdan | YOU CAN'T GO BACK! |
| 22:44.38 | Bikerdan | WHAT IF IT'S LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT!? |
| 22:45.02 | Bikerdan | THE RELATIONSHIP WILL NEVER LAST! |
| 22:45.08 | Bikerdan | IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:45.18 | Bikerdan | But whatever. |
| 22:46.03 | Bikerdan | You did it. Didn't you? |
| 22:46.06 | Bikerdan | ..... |
| 22:46.27 | influx | full stop |
| 22:46.31 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 22:47.35 | Bikerdan | I ain't a full and you can't make me stop. |
| 22:47.53 | Bikerdan | That was kinda rudel |
| 22:48.00 | Bikerdan | *rude |
| 22:48.03 | influx | :) |
| 22:48.06 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 22:48.28 | Bikerdan | Ok. I'm done freakin out. |
| 22:49.00 | Bikerdan | Did josePHPagoda look and is now speechless? If so, type a single y |
| 22:49.42 | Bikerdan | It's worse than I thought. |
| 22:50.49 | Bikerdan | Wow... Tough crowd. |
| 22:51.02 | Bikerdan | Or maybe you're all paralized |
| 22:55.10 | josePHPagoda | sry |
| 22:55.15 | josePHPagoda | prepping for benchmarks |
| 22:57.34 | mindjuju | $8ball are we going to hear anything about HL3 this year?? |
| 22:57.34 | raifbot | mindjuju - It is decidedly so. |
| 22:57.46 | mindjuju | not holding my breath |
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| 23:03.47 | mindjuju | well gee influx, i don't know, if your desk has a comfy pill on it, headdesking could be the way to go |
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| 23:17.58 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 23:17.59 | raifbot | In ancient China there is a legend that one day a child will be born from a dragon, grow to be a man, and vanquish evil from the land. That man is not Chuck Norris, because Chuck Norris killed that man |
| 23:35.11 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I sure wish we would hear something about it |
| 23:45.29 | wps | ~shoot Church Norris |
| 23:45.29 | ibot | ACTION shoots Church Norris in the foot with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 23:45.43 | wps | apparently Church Norris isn't that awesome if ibot can take him |
| 23:46.45 | josePHPagoda | it did take a quantum singularity weapon |
| 23:46.48 | josePHPagoda | so i think it was the weapon |
| 23:46.51 | josePHPagoda | not the bot |
| 23:46.53 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 23:47.59 | dezertol | umm... "Church Norris" is not as tough as Chuck Norris |
| 23:48.03 | dezertol | so.. it's really a non issue |
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