IRC log for #uphpu on 20111230

00:50.47ninnypants~fortunecookie
00:50.55ninnypants$chuck-fact
00:50.55raifbotChuck Norris doesn't accumulate Karma, Karma accumulates Chuck
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04:06.37TuxToaster$chuck-fact
04:06.37raifbotChuck Norris once went skydiving. He promised never to do it again. He said one Grand Canyon is enough.
04:44.56captbrogers$chuck-fact
04:44.56raifbotChuck Norris destroyed the periodic table because the only element Chuck Norris recognizes is the element of suprise
04:45.40captbrogers~captbrogers karma
04:45.46captbrogers~karma captbrogers
04:45.46ibotcaptbrogers has karma of 1
04:46.01captbrogersforever alone horay!
05:13.48ninnypants$rlart
05:13.48raifbotinstalls a bad bootloader on captbrogers and turns captbrogers into a brick.
05:21.34captbrogersWell great
05:21.35ninnypantsraifbot: why would you brick captbrogers?
05:21.48captbrogersMy warranty is voided now
05:22.01captbrogersSo if split() is deprecated what do I use in it's place?
05:28.54ninnypantscaptbrogers: what are you trying to do?
05:29.37ninnypantscaptbrogers: probably explode
05:33.21ninnypantscaptbrogers: or preg_split http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.preg-split.php
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06:05.38captbrogersSorry, looking at things and forgot to come back
06:05.46captbrogersPretty much exactly what split() would do
06:06.19captbrogersI have a word, want to split it so I have two halves. I understand that with an odd number one half will be bigger. I don't mind that
06:06.50captbrogersNot exactly necessary now, but it may become so
06:15.34ninnypantshow about http://pastebin.com/5NWebWPx
06:18.26ninnypantsor http://pastebin.com/CvNpW2UL
06:19.44ninnypantscaptbrogers: would either of those work?
06:26.23captbrogersLooking at them
06:26.54captbrogersI think the second would work for me. Thanks
06:27.16ninnypantsnp both do the same thing or should just different methods
06:28.27captbrogers~ninnypants++
06:30.44ninnypantscaptbrogers: thanks
06:31.58ninnypantscaptbrogers: you would also want to look at explode if you want to split on a specific character but that wasn't what it sounded like you needed
06:32.52ninnypantsoh and I think $mid and $end should both be -1
06:35.32captbrogersThere isn't a constant that I can split it at besides it's length, so the second one you provided makes sense to me and should fit well in my script
06:36.25ninnypantsok and if you treat a string as an array the characters will be the items
06:39.57captbrogersYeah, it seems to fit nicely into what I'm doing
06:44.59ninnypantscaptbrogers: guess I should've checked the manual first forgot the there is a str_split function http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.str-split.php
07:05.47TuxToaster$rlart
07:05.47raifbotforces Nafai to use Outlook Express.
07:12.51ninnypantsevening TuxToaster
07:13.05TuxToasterpractically morning at this point :-)
07:13.43DexterTheDragonmorning is 10 hours away
07:14.14TuxToasterlol
07:14.58captbrogersninnypants: I looked at that, but if the string is an odd integer it will split it into three chunks not two
07:15.04captbrogersAnyway, night all
07:15.24ninnypantscaptbrogers: that's why you could calculate the middle of the string
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16:26.36captbrogersThat was really weird. My name randomly changed to captbrogers1
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16:30.39josePHPagodacould be that you had a connection issue
16:30.42josePHPagodaand so it reconnected
16:30.48captbrogers1I think that is the problem
16:30.52captbrogers1Just happened again
16:31.24josePHPagodayeah
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17:50.48captbrogers$chuck-fact
17:50.48raifbotWhen the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
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18:39.46ninnypants$chuck-fact
18:39.46raifbotDarth Vader dresses up as Chuck Norris for Halloween.
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19:54.46ninnypants$rlart
19:54.46raifboturinates on ninnypants.
19:54.57ninnypantswow raifbot doesn't like me today
19:55.36ninnypants~say ~lart ibot
19:55.36ibot~lart ibot
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19:59.42josephscott$lart ibot
19:59.42raifbotwielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot.
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20:03.43herlodidn't work
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20:17.56raifbotwielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot.
20:18.05TuxToasterheh
20:18.11TuxToaster$rlart
20:18.11raifbotblasts TuxToaster with a huge firehose then strangles TuxToaster with it.
20:18.15TuxToastergah
20:38.48ninnypants$rlart
20:38.48raifbotmoos at uxp.
20:41.08josephscott$weather 84092
20:41.08raifbot3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Clear 52f / 11c Humidity: 38% Wind: SW at 14 mph
20:41.19josephscottstrange weather for the end of December
20:42.01herloindeed
20:42.21herloprobably on 1/1/2012 would be the best though, around noon
20:43.34josePHPagoda:P
20:43.46ninnypantsstrange weather for all of december really
20:43.49josePHPagodaremember remember... the end of december
20:43.52josePHPagoda:P
20:44.22josephscottyeah, the lack of snow is a bit odd
20:44.37josephscottbut over 50 on Dec 30th?  I wonder if that is a record hi
20:46.08josePHPagodait was here
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20:49.27ninnypantsahh didn't notice the temp
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21:15.00Monnok$chuck-fact
21:15.00raifbotChuck Norris' hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.
21:16.11josephscott$chuck-fact
21:16.12raifbotChuck Norris doesn't worry about changing his clock twice a year for daylight savings time. The sun rises and sets when Chuck tells it to.
21:22.08DexterTheDragonRecord (KSLC) 56 °F (1996)
21:24.34influxA coworker is trying to explain Star Wars to an initiate.
21:25.05influxAnd the wizard analogy has come out.
21:25.11influxYou're a Jedi, Harry.
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21:43.48carmonysooooo tired...
21:45.07MonnokJust in time for New Years! You get to stay up later than you really want to, to watch a ball slowly drop, then go to bed
21:52.34influxEh.
21:52.59josephscottcarmony: back from California?
22:00.26DexterTheDragonjosephscott: https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=android.wordpress.org
22:02.27josephscottDexterTheDragon: yeah, that is known issue of mapped domains on wordpress.com
22:03.11DexterTheDragonshouldn't it be using the .org cert instead of the .com?
22:03.13josephscottthe wildcard cert is for *.wordpress.com, but a mapped domain is going to be for something that isn't wordpress.com
22:03.32josephscottyes, in one sense
22:03.42DexterTheDragoncodex.wordpress.org uses a *.wordpress.org cert
22:03.50josephscottbut that isn't hosted on wordpress.com
22:04.04josephscottit is hosted on the separate wordpress.org set of servers
22:04.08DexterTheDragonneat
22:04.37josephscottit is an unfortunate problem of mapped domains
22:04.57josephscottto properly support SSL for mapped domains we'd have to install a cert for every mapped domain
22:05.05josephscotton all of the web servers for wordpress.com
22:05.41carmonyjosephscott: yup
22:05.45josephscottI'll ping our systems team to see if there is anything new there, but I suspect not
22:05.54josephscottthen there is the whole IP address issue
22:06.08josephscottcarmony: welcome back to sunny, warm Utah!
22:06.13josephscott55 at my house today
22:06.16carmonylol, I know
22:06.17DexterTheDragonjosephscott: just kinda sucks being locked out of a site because of the cert
22:06.22influxha
22:06.38carmonyit was ironic that at night with high 60s, california people freeze
22:06.39josephscottagreed, it is a yucky situation
22:06.55carmonyso I'm getting an SSD..... >.>
22:07.00josephscottcarmony: I grew up in California, I don't recall ever freezing in the 60s ;-)
22:07.21carmonyjosephscott: must be a san diego/oc thing
22:08.53josephscottDexterTheDragon: what we really need is for a major increase in the support of SNI
22:09.15josephscottthat would make the cert management possible, without having to assign IPs
22:09.39DexterTheDragonworks in firefox so would be fine by me :)
22:09.48josephscott:-)
22:10.45mindjujujosephscott, can you help me with something
22:10.51josephscottmindjuju: I can try
22:11.13mindjujuseems like i read that if there is a memory leak in a web page, and apache process keeps growing, that it eventually becomes unweildy and crashes
22:11.27mindjujueven though the server has more RAM than was consumed by the apache process
22:11.53mindjujui want to say i read this like 2 months ago while doing something else, does that sound even remotely familiar?
22:12.02mindjujui want to even say i read it at the apache web site
22:12.06mindjujulike in their docs
22:13.11josephscottcould be something strange in apache that causes the crash, but I'd have thought someone would have found and fixed something like that by now
22:13.29mindjujuyeah, i'm not holding my breath
22:13.35josephscottwhat do you have MaxRequestsPerChild set to?
22:13.38mindjujuthis dev lives perpetually in the great State of denial
22:14.41josephscotthttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mpm_common.html#maxrequestsperchild
22:15.16josephscottif there is a memory leak, or something going nuts, then setting that to a non-zero value may help
22:15.33mindjujuyeah, true that
22:15.41carmonyyeah, when I had mem issues I'd set that to a lower number
22:15.46mindjujui'm seeing maxrequest as 0 which is unlimited iirc
22:16.13carmonywhat about per child?
22:16.38mindjujusrry, i mean t maxrequestperchild is at 0
22:16.43carmonyah
22:16.49carmonyyeah
22:17.10carmonywhat maxrequestsperchild does is it will kill and child after hitting the max requests and spawn a new one
22:17.22mindjujuyup, and stop mem leaks
22:17.26carmonyyeah
22:17.27mindjujuwell, resolve it
22:17.30carmonybut if it is set to 0
22:17.36carmonyit will never restart the children
22:17.41mindjujuyeah
22:18.00carmonyI think I had mine set to 5000 or something
22:18.16josephscottzero is good for performance (don't have to kill/spawn processes), but not good if you have a rogue memory leak
22:18.28mindjujuyeah, which is where we are
22:19.21carmonyit isn't too big of a performance hit unless you are serving enough requests that you are killing/spawning every few request
22:19.23carmonyrequests*
22:20.37josephscottdepends on how bad their memory leak is I suppose
22:20.52mindjujuon winders apache process was at 1.7GB
22:20.56josephscottI'd try something like carmony suggested, 5000, see what happens from there
22:21.01mindjujuit was never this high
22:21.30mindjujudev has a bad history of plugging his ears when this sort of stuff happens and waits to be contacted by upper management to fix it
22:21.34mindjujuit's VERY annoying
22:21.44carmonyI bet
22:22.24mindjujui wish i could find that documentation on apache unweildy with mem leak to show him what i'm talking about
22:24.23josephscottis this dev writing an apache module?
22:24.34josephscottor is this PHP?
22:24.34mindjujuno just bad php code
22:24.47josephscottgotcha
22:25.07carmonymindjuju: you could use xhprof to see whats going on with his code :P
22:25.11josephscotttime to bust out a profiler
22:25.19josephscottyeah, what he said :-)
22:28.54josephscotteven having a few tests scripts use the code and call http://php.net/manual/en/function.memory-get-peak-usage.php at the end will give you some idea of what is going on memory wise
22:45.58influxSounds like there might be an opening.
22:46.07influx: |
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23:24.57josephscottcarmony: find something good on ksl?

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