| 00:09.54 | josePHPagoda | yay for dedicated mysql servers! |
| 00:10.01 | josePHPagoda | finally got that all working |
| 00:10.16 | josePHPagoda | and stable |
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| 00:16.12 | ninnypants | josePHPagoda: sweet |
| 00:16.28 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 00:16.40 | josePHPagoda | so now people can get up to 16 Core 16GB database servers |
| 00:16.51 | josePHPagoda | (and eventually we'll have a nice "replicate me" checkbox) |
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| 01:41.55 | ninnypants | anyone around that can help me with some curl questions? |
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| 01:55.14 | Nafai | curl the program or the PHP library? :) |
| 02:01.02 | ninnypants | the php library |
| 02:01.25 | Nafai | sorry, can't help you there :) |
| 02:01.52 | ninnypants | too bad |
| 02:02.34 | ninnypants | I need to PUT a file but I don't want to save to disk in order to send it |
| 02:04.06 | Nafai | I'm guessing the api wants a filename? |
| 02:05.38 | ninnypants | yep |
| 02:06.03 | ninnypants | I know I've posted just file text before and it's worked other places but the api wants PUT |
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| 05:42.53 | raifbot | Chuck Norris doesn't worry about changing his clock twice a year for daylight savings time. The sun rises and sets when Chuck tells it to. |
| 06:01.41 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
| 06:01.41 | raifbot | Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice. |
| 06:04.26 | ninnypants | what caused ibot to send $chuck-fact? |
| 06:06.08 | ninnypants | josephscott: got a few? |
| 06:06.18 | josephscott | ninnypants: sure, what's up? |
| 06:06.24 | josephscott | don't know why ibot did that |
| 06:06.40 | ninnypants | yeah thought it was weird |
| 06:07.20 | ninnypants | anyway I'm having some trouble with a curl request it's taking a minute and it doesn't ever seem to finish when I get the details back |
| 06:07.37 | josephscott | what does the curl command look like? |
| 06:09.29 | ninnypants | http://pastebin.com/PWDi9Kd7 this is the curl info that comes back from the request just a sec on the command |
| 06:10.09 | ninnypants | the curl code |
| 06:10.10 | ninnypants | http://pastebin.com/uBmBA8EZ |
| 06:10.26 | josephscott | try forcing HTTP 1.0 instead of 1.1? |
| 06:11.56 | josephscott | hmmm HTTP PUT |
| 06:12.40 | ninnypants | yeah following this API here http://developer.37signals.com/highrise/companies |
| 06:14.21 | josephscott | I don't remember if PUT has the continue issue as well with 1.1 |
| 06:15.53 | ninnypants | continue issue? |
| 06:18.14 | josephscott | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec8.html |
| 06:18.28 | josephscott | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.1.1 |
| 06:22.36 | josephscott | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec8.html#sec8.2.3 |
| 06:23.20 | josephscott | if CURL is sending a 100 CONTINUE status as part of the request and the 37 signals server doesn't support 100 CONTINUE then it will sit there until the 100 CONTINUE times out |
| 06:23.54 | josephscott | try it with verbose, get the raw HTTP request/response to see what is going on |
| 06:28.47 | ninnypants | ahh ok I was thinking it was 37signals that was sending me the 100 CONTINUE |
| 06:33.31 | josephscott | curl by default with use HTTP 1.1, which defines the 100 CONTINUE. HTTP 1.0 doesn't have 100 CONTINUE, so that's how I've made sure it doesn't use it |
| 06:33.51 | josephscott | but I'd look at the raw request/response first, see exactly what is going on |
| 06:34.25 | ninnypants | yeah trying to get it I'm not seeing anything when I use verbose currently |
| 07:03.04 | ninnypants | josephscott: can you think of any reason I wouldn't get at least headers back in the return transfer? |
| 07:03.28 | josephscott | did you set that option, to get headers back? |
| 07:04.15 | ninnypants | yeah verbose right? |
| 07:07.16 | josephscott | CURLOPT_HEADER |
| 07:07.18 | josephscott | http://php.net/manual/en/function.curl-setopt.php |
| 07:10.29 | ninnypants | ok here's the header http://pastebin.com/trxTf65z |
| 07:10.48 | josephscott | yep, looks like the 100 CONTINUE is timing out |
| 07:10.53 | ninnypants | and I must be getting too tired cause I've used that before and should've known |
| 07:11.26 | ninnypants | how do you tell? |
| 07:11.41 | josephscott | look at the first line of http://pastebin.com/trxTf65z |
| 07:12.23 | ninnypants | I thought that just told it to keep waiting |
| 07:12.49 | josephscott | set CURLOPT_HTTP_VERSION to 1.0 and see if that makes a difference |
| 07:14.26 | ninnypants | the 100 disappears but the 200 is still HTTP 1.1 |
| 07:16.49 | ninnypants | though the upload content length is the same either way and so is the download content length |
| 07:17.16 | josephscott | did the time change? |
| 07:18.51 | ninnypants | 1.1 = 0.249 1.0 = 0.312 |
| 07:18.54 | ninnypants | not by much |
| 07:20.46 | josephscott | the total time, it was 60 seconds before |
| 07:20.52 | josephscott | is it still that high? |
| 07:22.45 | ninnypants | nope those are the total times |
| 07:23.03 | ninnypants | .249 seconds and .312 seconds |
| 07:24.00 | josephscott | http://pastebin.com/PWDi9Kd7 shows a total time of 60 seconds |
| 07:27.54 | ninnypants | http://pastebin.com/cuEkAimY |
| 07:29.31 | ninnypants | the curl is basically the same as well http://pastebin.com/wcpbzQc9 |
| 07:33.10 | ninnypants | josephscott: I think I'm going to be done for now thanks for the help, but I thinking I'm getting to tired and have been working on it too long so I'm missing things. |
| 07:33.32 | josephscott | ok |
| 07:33.42 | josephscott | total time is now less than a second |
| 07:33.59 | ninnypants | yeah |
| 07:34.48 | ninnypants | I think I had some issues in my fopen and fixed them then it dropped but I'm not completely sure cause I've been on the same thing too long and it's all starting to blend together |
| 07:35.43 | ninnypants | I'm wondering if the long times before were the issues with my file handle |
| 07:38.22 | ninnypants | the file still isn't uploading correctly because the data isn't changing but even when I copy the xml file 37signals provides but I'll leave it for now |
| 07:38.30 | ninnypants | thanks again for all the help |
| 07:40.37 | josephscott | np |
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| 15:52.59 | captbrogers | My brother sent me some engrish stickers from Japan |
| 15:54.52 | captbrogers | http://www.wtfux.net/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/1efe6_engrish-funny-safety-driver.jpg |
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| 16:13.23 | Heartsbane | herlo: ping |
| 16:20.35 | captbrogers | Looks like a timeout |
| 16:21.53 | josePHPagoda | hi all |
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| 16:33.24 | herlo | Heartsbane: pong |
| 16:37.47 | captbrogers | With special commentary by josePHPagoda |
| 16:38.07 | herlo | captbrogers: I'd have said 'color' commentary, but sure |
| 16:38.26 | captbrogers | herlo: Special color commentary? |
| 16:38.56 | herlo | not special |
| 16:38.58 | herlo | just color |
| 16:39.10 | herlo | captbrogers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_commentator |
| 16:39.45 | captbrogers | Interesting... |
| 16:40.03 | captbrogers | Seeing as I share The Oatmeal's understanding of most sports, this is new to me |
| 16:40.52 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 16:40.58 | herlo | what is the oatmeal's understanding? I have not seen that cartoon |
| 16:41.16 | herlo | and I love the oatmeal, usually |
| 16:41.25 | captbrogers | http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/working_home/3.png |
| 16:42.35 | herlo | captbrogers: haha! I have seen that one, very good! |
| 16:43.11 | josePHPagoda | piggers are number one! |
| 16:43.16 | itimber | haha |
| 16:43.46 | josePHPagoda | say it with me guys! PIGGERS ARE NUMBER ONE! |
| 16:43.49 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 16:43.50 | herlo | captbrogers: I grew up in a sports family, was very into baseball, and still am as a spectator. My dad is a Utah Jazz devotee, so it was on a lot. He would watch it and wanted you to be there too. I really enjoyed going to the games at the old Salt Palace and the Delta Center. So much fun! |
| 16:44.27 | herlo | you learn about these things as you watch around 250 games a year |
| 16:44.29 | herlo | :) |
| 16:44.50 | captbrogers | Yeah, my dad watched football and sometimes baseball but I was usually playing video games in another room |
| 16:45.14 | herlo | captbrogers: heh. I have a lot of friends who did that too. |
| 16:45.20 | captbrogers | I like going to a baseball game every once in a while, but for the most part I'm not into sports |
| 16:45.47 | captbrogers | I think my wife saw this as a positive thing when we were dating |
| 16:45.52 | josePHPagoda | my dad would fall asleep watching football |
| 16:45.54 | herlo | captbrogers: yeah, I'm nowhere near as into it as I used to be. |
| 16:45.58 | josePHPagoda | and we'd slowly turn the tv down until it was silent |
| 16:46.04 | josePHPagoda | and then change the channel |
| 16:46.12 | josePHPagoda | and after we changed the channel he'd go "Hey I was watching that" |
| 16:46.20 | josePHPagoda | even though he was out and snoring for about 15 minutes at that point |
| 16:46.32 | herlo | josePHPagoda: was it like at my house? If you just changed it, he would wake right up? |
| 16:46.42 | herlo | and make you turn it back :) |
| 16:46.52 | captbrogers | Weird |
| 16:47.04 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 16:47.06 | josePHPagoda | we thought it was the noise |
| 16:47.09 | josePHPagoda | which was why we tried muting it |
| 16:47.17 | captbrogers | I can't fall asleep if I'm watching something I am interested in. Though usually it's some science-y thing from BBC |
| 16:47.41 | captbrogers | Or Star Trek |
| 16:48.17 | herlo | captbrogers: I don't think they were too interested in the game, that's why they were asleep |
| 16:50.54 | captbrogers | Sort of defeats the purpse, doesn't it then? To not be interested in something yet forcing others to allow it to be continued? |
| 16:51.10 | captbrogers | I guess I grew up oddly |
| 16:51.25 | herlo | captbrogers: haha |
| 16:51.46 | herlo | captbrogers: I think they are interested in that sport, just maybe not the particular game save the outcome |
| 16:52.12 | josePHPagoda | i think it was a sleep aid for my dad |
| 16:52.15 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 16:52.19 | captbrogers | I'd feel like a jerk if I did that. My brother get's really pissed off if the Aggies lose |
| 16:52.32 | captbrogers | Heh, I can see how that would be helpful then and why he'd want it to be on |
| 16:53.08 | herlo | josePHPagoda: mine too |
| 16:53.19 | herlo | especially on sunday right after church and a big meal |
| 16:53.22 | josePHPagoda | yup |
| 16:54.26 | herlo | wrangling 6 kids, half who don't want to go, can be challenging as a parent |
| 16:54.32 | herlo | oh, and the other half can't completely dress themselves yet or have other kid-like challenges |
| 16:55.21 | captbrogers | So glad my church isn't at 9 AM any more |
| 16:55.35 | captbrogers | That was the hardest thing dragging myself out of bed |
| 16:55.42 | herlo | so glad I don't go ot church anymore :) |
| 16:57.04 | captbrogers | I don't mind going, I just want to sleep sometimes and it got tough getting out of bed, dressing myself and my kids, readying a bag of things for them then going to a warm building with padded chairs, just wanted to fall back asleep |
| 17:00.27 | herlo | captbrogers: yup, sounds just like our house when I grew up |
| 17:04.28 | stderr- | stupid religion, choosing the day football is on to worship |
| 17:04.30 | stderr- | psh |
| 17:04.45 | josePHPagoda | what if football is your religion? |
| 17:04.51 | stderr- | it is |
| 17:04.57 | josePHPagoda | there you go then |
| 17:05.00 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 17:05.02 | josePHPagoda | no problem |
| 17:05.23 | stderr- | I meant the other religions |
| 17:05.51 | josePHPagoda | ooooh |
| 17:05.53 | josePHPagoda | that makes more sense now |
| 17:05.59 | captbrogers | Yeah, religions just get in the way of things. Someone should make a religion that sort of isn't a religion |
| 17:06.21 | stderr- | it's called scientology and it didn't work out so well, captbrogers |
| 17:07.31 | captbrogers | Oh dang |
| 17:09.00 | herlo | lol |
| 17:09.50 | josePHPagoda | :P |
| 17:10.02 | captbrogers | I guess you could say it didn't...*puts on sunglasses*...pay off. |
| 17:10.13 | captbrogers | YEEAAAAHHH!!! |
| 17:11.13 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 17:16.30 | captbrogers | Cause they have to pay...gain levels....come on, it was good! |
| 17:18.03 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 17:18.15 | herlo | um... no |
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| 17:18.48 | influx | Nice try though. |
| 17:18.57 | captbrogers | So long as I get points for effort |
| 17:19.44 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 17:19.57 | josePHPagoda | (ok, now i'm going too far with the dots...) |
| 17:19.59 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 17:22.44 | herlo | captbrogers: +.00000001 |
| 17:22.48 | herlo | there's your points :) |
| 17:24.16 | influx | Fractions of points are still points? |
| 17:25.03 | fungus | ~karma captbrogers |
| 17:25.03 | ibot | captbrogers has neutral karma |
| 17:25.07 | fungus | nope |
| 17:26.27 | herlo | lol |
| 17:26.33 | herlo | fungus: I missed the ~ |
| 17:26.44 | herlo | eventually it'll add up though |
| 17:29.51 | captbrogers | Frick |
| 17:30.43 | captbrogers | So using a points system will give other people karma? |
| 17:31.51 | herlo | captbrogers: you can give anything karma |
| 17:31.56 | herlo | ~karma ie |
| 17:31.56 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 17:32.11 | herlo | you can give positive or negative karma :) |
| 17:33.04 | herlo | ~mindjuju++ |
| 17:33.08 | herlo | ~karma mindjuju |
| 17:33.08 | ibot | mindjuju has karma of 50 |
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| 17:38.52 | influx | ~karma influx |
| 17:38.52 | ibot | influx has karma of 9 |
| 17:38.58 | influx | \o/ |
| 17:39.14 | josePHPagoda | ~karma josePHPagoda |
| 17:39.14 | ibot | josephpagoda has karma of 2 |
| 17:39.22 | josePHPagoda | at least it's not negative |
| 17:39.24 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
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| 17:40.29 | herlo | ~josePHPagoda++ |
| 17:40.36 | herlo | ~captbrogers++ |
| 17:40.40 | herlo | :) |
| 17:40.52 | josePHPagoda | yay! |
| 17:40.55 | josePHPagoda | :-D |
| 17:41.03 | captbrogers | It's a festivus miracle! |
| 17:41.06 | captbrogers | ~karma captbrogers |
| 17:41.06 | ibot | captbrogers has karma of 1 |
| 17:41.23 | captbrogers | That's a cool feature |
| 17:46.49 | ninnypants | ~karma ninnypants |
| 17:46.49 | ibot | ninnypants has karma of 7 |
| 17:47.22 | ninnypants | ~josephscott++ |
| 17:51.49 | captbrogers | Flip, I give up. I'm going back to Apache from Nginx |
| 17:51.58 | SunSparc | Why? |
| 17:52.51 | captbrogers | I can't get basic URL rewrite to work with my script, and I have tried every tutorial I can find but nothing works |
| 17:53.40 | captbrogers | I think it's trying to include index.php in the url string even though it isn't there, when I do put it in I just get "No input file specified" instead of a 404 |
| 17:54.48 | SunSparc | Hmmm, wish I could help. I have not messed around with Nginx yet. It is on my list though. |
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| 17:55.53 | captbrogers | I like it, it was rather easy to get going, but if I can't get this to work then ti's a deal breaker |
| 17:56.49 | SunSparc | Yeah, rewrite is important. |
| 18:21.30 | influx | ~8ball 100% Colombian or the Breakfast Blend? |
| 18:21.30 | ibot | I'm not sure. |
| 18:22.14 | josePHPagoda | ibot is useless sometimes |
| 18:23.00 | influx | Hear hear. |
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| 18:26.42 | captbrogers | So anyone have opinions on the Motorola Xoom? |
| 18:28.57 | josePHPagoda | i have a friend who has one |
| 18:29.00 | josePHPagoda | and it works well for him |
| 18:29.35 | captbrogers | Got my wife one for Christmas, she wanted one with a USB port |
| 18:29.37 | herlo | I have a few friends who have one as well. They seem to like them. |
| 18:29.54 | captbrogers | err..she wanted a tablet with a USB port |
| 18:30.11 | herlo | yeah, not many have them |
| 18:30.56 | captbrogers | I thought the Xoom was the only 10" to have one |
| 18:32.23 | herlo | captbrogers: possibly. I would suspect some off brand ones do... |
| 18:32.39 | captbrogers | Yeah, but I don't settle for those |
| 18:32.51 | herlo | some do |
| 18:33.15 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 18:33.15 | raifbot | Chuck Norris does simply walk into Mordor |
| 18:34.57 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 18:36.13 | josephscott | I'd love simple tablet that just plays h.264 video off of an SD card |
| 18:36.23 | herlo | josephscott: good luck |
| 18:36.38 | herlo | I guess the Transformer Prime might be able to do that :) |
| 18:36.56 | josephscott | I don't need anything fancy, but I really am tired of DVDs getting destroyed by the kids, so I've been ripping them all |
| 18:37.33 | herlo | josephscott: well h.264 won't play on most tablets. My Transformer TF101 can *almost* play them |
| 18:38.01 | josephscott | seriously? does it have any hardware decoding support? |
| 18:38.06 | herlo | nope |
| 18:38.15 | herlo | at least from what I've read they don't |
| 18:38.20 | josephscott | lame |
| 18:38.29 | SunSparc | josephscott: Netflix rocks for that, though they still do not have everything. Several years ago, we got an AppleTV, ripped all our DVDs, and have been using that ever since. So nice. |
| 18:38.32 | josephscott | $500?! |
| 18:38.42 | josephscott | dang, I'd just get an iPad if I wanted to drop that kind off money |
| 18:38.52 | josephscott | I was hoping for something basic and inexpensive |
| 18:39.26 | josephscott | SunSparc: yep, I don't have any HD TVs, so I have a roku that a I stream things with, using plex |
| 18:39.49 | josephscott | the one DVD item no replaced yet is the portable DVD player |
| 18:40.02 | josephscott | which is why I'm wondering about a simple movie playing tablet |
| 18:40.07 | herlo | josephscott: I've got a roku as well, really like it |
| 18:40.34 | herlo | josephscott: if you rip them to xvid avis the tablets will likely play them... |
| 18:42.17 | josePHPagoda | i'm pondering getting a boxee box |
| 18:42.57 | ninnypants | josephscott: figured out my issues from last night. The long transfer time was from the file pointer being at the end of the file from just having written it, and the update wasn't working because I wasn't sending the content type header |
| 18:43.34 | josephscott | good to hear you found the issue |
| 18:44.55 | ninnypants | yeah too bad it had to take so long ;) |
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| 19:15.21 | TuxToaster | wow http://www.ksl.com/?sid=18666100&nid=1014 |
| 19:21.52 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah that's crazy I figure if they didn't unfollow when he stopped tweeting about the company they became his followers |
| 19:22.19 | TuxToaster | I mean, seriously, how do you decide that each follower is is worth $2.50? |
| 19:22.45 | TuxToaster | the one thing I can see to the company's view is the fact that his handle had their name in it |
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| 19:23.37 | TuxToaster | if it was an official company account (i.e. they set it up for him, etc) then it's their account -- he shouldn't have taken it. But if it was one he set up on his own, they might not own it but they can get him on using their name in it |
| 19:24.58 | ninnypants | he removed his name after he left though |
| 19:25.06 | ninnypants | not his name their name sorry |
| 19:26.40 | TuxToaster | yeah I know. Just stirs up some questions, since they can argue that if he set it up with their name in it, it was part of the work he did in his capacity as an employee and therefore owned by them |
| 19:27.21 | TuxToaster | personally I hate company specific accounts like that. Either use your personal name or have shared accounts for the company, having company_bob, company_nick, company_etc. is a bit annoying really |
| 19:29.15 | ninnypants | very true |
| 19:30.02 | ninnypants | Personally I would think that if the company is using his personality to attract customers and his name as well he should be able to take the account with him so long as he lets people know he's not with the company anymore |
| 19:32.26 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:33.05 | TuxToaster | I'd say they should be trying to negotiate with him, get him to send a few tweets to his followers to encourage them to follow @PhoneDog directly if they are still interested in it as he is no longer with them |
| 19:33.19 | ninnypants | though I'm not a company with the ability to sue someone for 300,000 over twitter followers ;p |
| 19:33.41 | TuxToaster | or if they can legitimately prove that the account was rightfully theirs, they should be attempting to get the account from Twitter. Not suing for a monetary amount per follower |
| 19:34.45 | ninnypants | yeah really seems silly and it's been 8 months or something like that |
| 19:34.54 | TuxToaster | it's like with PayPal, if you have an issue with another user, you attempt to negotiate. If that fails, you go to PayPal and open a dispute, and they review it and decide what needs to happen. You don't sue them directly over damages and such. |
| 19:35.00 | ninnypants | if it was an actual issue and not them just trying to get money why did it take so long |
| 19:35.21 | TuxToaster | yeah no kidding, especially since the hearing won't be until next year sometime. |
| 19:36.18 | ninnypants | at which point I'm sure they'll ask for even more |
| 19:39.23 | captbrogers | SunSparc, you still around? |
| 19:39.25 | TuxToaster | https://twitter.com/#!/johnbiggs/status/152463258920562688/photo/1 |
| 19:39.52 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: yeah, especially now that he has over 20k followers, likely just from the publicity of the ordeal |
| 19:41.25 | TuxToaster | interesting. http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2011/11/california_cour.htm <-- apparently the courts agree, they say that the monetary claims are not proven, but they are letting the ownership claim on the account proceed |
| 19:41.37 | mindjuju | anybody know how the _SERVER["REMOTE_PORT"] is assigned? |
| 19:41.46 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: randomly |
| 19:41.53 | mindjuju | yeah, that's what i thought |
| 19:42.01 | TuxToaster | probably using $8ball :P |
| 19:42.22 | TuxToaster | some specific apps might use a specific port, but most just let TCP pick one |
| 19:42.52 | jsmith | mindjuju: Assigned? Sure... that's easy |
| 19:43.29 | jsmith | mindjuju: The browser on the remote system says "Hey operating system, I'm making an outbound TCP connection" and the OS says "Hey browser, your connection is on TCP port 12345" |
| 19:44.01 | jsmith | mindjuju: (and, if you're lucky, the connection gets NATted and the firewall says "Yeah, you were on port 12345, but I'm rewriting the address, so the apparent port is 54321" |
| 19:47.43 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: just letting you know, my wife, son, and myself don't seem whitelisted anymore |
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| 21:00.02 | ninnypants | $chuck-fact |
| 21:00.02 | raifbot | Chuck Norris can run until the treadmill gets tired |
| 21:01.25 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:02.47 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:02.47 | raifbot | whacks ChanServ with a giant beaver's tail. |
| 21:03.19 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 21:03.19 | raifbot | takes out a cattle prod and gives ChanServ a good jolt. |
| 21:03.33 | ninnypants | raifbot: doesn't like ChanServ today |
| 21:03.41 | TuxToaster | apparently not |
| 21:03.49 | TuxToaster | can he go 3 for 3? |
| 21:03.51 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 21:03.51 | raifbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at eggyknap. |
| 21:03.55 | TuxToaster | nope |
| 21:04.58 | TuxToaster | the weirdest part is when you start picturing someone wearing a hockey mask and a giant beaver tail holding a cattle prod. |
| 21:08.07 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 21:09.26 | TuxToaster | err... well I meant to give him a picture of josePHPagoda, but that works too. |
| 21:09.34 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:11.07 | TuxToaster | there's an idea for a meeting: photoshopping pictures to match $rlart output |
| 21:11.10 | TuxToaster | :P |
| 21:12.00 | josephscott | $8ball do you have a copy of Photoshop? |
| 21:12.00 | raifbot | josephscott - Ask again later. |
| 21:12.07 | josephscott | $8ball do you have a copy of Photoshop? |
| 21:12.07 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 21:12.10 | josePHPagoda | i think raifbot is out making a purchase |
| 21:12.13 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:12.16 | TuxToaster | josephscott: he wants you to wait until he's done with the picture |
| 21:12.28 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:13.55 | ninnypants | $8ball are you hiding the fact that you have a pirated copy of Photoshop? |
| 21:13.55 | raifbot | ninnypants - Outlook good. |
| 21:13.58 | TuxToaster | see, the last response should have been <raifbot> josephscott - Very doubtful. *whistles innocently* |
| 21:16.45 | josePHPagoda | $ball Did you purchase it? |
| 21:16.51 | josePHPagoda | err |
| 21:17.01 | josePHPagoda | $8Ball Did you purchase it? |
| 21:17.08 | josePHPagoda | hmm |
| 21:17.12 | josePHPagoda | raifbot hates me :-( |
| 21:17.25 | Monnok | or you could spell it right |
| 21:17.49 | ninnypants | Monnok makes a good point ;p |
| 21:17.59 | josePHPagoda | $8ball did you purchase it? |
| 21:17.59 | raifbot | josePHPagoda - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 21:18.03 | josePHPagoda | ah |
| 21:18.05 | josePHPagoda | it is case sensitive |
| 21:18.10 | josePHPagoda | i was unaware :-P |
| 21:18.17 | josePHPagoda | $ball are you case sensitive? |
| 21:18.19 | josePHPagoda | err |
| 21:18.25 | josePHPagoda | $8ball are you case sensitive? |
| 21:18.26 | raifbot | josePHPagoda - As I see it, yes. |
| 21:18.35 | josePHPagoda | well, now I know |
| 21:18.38 | captbrogers | $8ball are you sarcastic. |
| 21:18.38 | raifbot | captbrogers - Reply hazy, try again. |
| 21:18.43 | Monnok | lol |
| 21:18.48 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:19.01 | captbrogers | Well, that was almost as good as a no |
| 21:19.25 | captbrogers | $8ball Are you an offspring of Wolfram Alpha? |
| 21:19.26 | raifbot | captbrogers - Very doubtful. |
| 21:19.39 | captbrogers | Sounds like an episode of Maury |
| 21:19.47 | josePHPagoda | it really does |
| 21:20.05 | captbrogers | Wolfram Alpha, you are NOT the father! |
| 21:21.38 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:23.32 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you related to Siri at all? |
| 21:23.32 | raifbot | TuxToaster - As I see it, yes. |
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| 21:31.55 | josephscott | raifbot: quit giving away all your secrets |
| 21:33.28 | josePHPagoda | $8ball have you given away any big secrets? |
| 21:33.28 | raifbot | josePHPagoda - Don't count on it. |
| 21:33.35 | josePHPagoda | it's ok josephscott |
| 21:33.38 | josePHPagoda | it's still secretive |
| 21:33.41 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:34.02 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:34.23 | josePHPagoda | $8ball will you tell me some big secrets? |
| 21:34.24 | raifbot | josePHPagoda - As I see it, yes. |
| 21:34.33 | josePHPagoda | holy cow! |
| 21:34.35 | josePHPagoda | it trusts me! |
| 21:34.43 | TuxToaster | $8ball do you trust josePHPagoda? |
| 21:34.43 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Don't count on it. |
| 21:35.07 | josePHPagoda | so it's a liar |
| 21:35.11 | josePHPagoda | :-( |
| 21:35.39 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you a liar? |
| 21:35.39 | raifbot | TuxToaster - As I see it, yes. |
| 21:35.45 | TuxToaster | at least he's consistent. |
| 21:36.30 | josePHPagoda | i guess |
| 21:37.33 | TuxToaster | $8ball did josephscott disguise all of your secret AI logic by overriding array_rand() ? |
| 21:37.33 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Better not tell you now. |
| 21:37.38 | TuxToaster | mwahahahaha |
| 21:38.10 | TuxToaster | $8ball should I be worried? |
| 21:38.10 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Most likely. |
| 21:38.35 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:40.23 | TuxToaster | it's kind of scary how much of a personality came out of ~three lines of code. |
| 21:40.47 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:42.14 | TuxToaster | and it's a sign that I'm in here too much when I turn back to my code and wonder why I have print '<lol>'; |
| 21:42.33 | TuxToaster | in my defense it actually turned out to be print '</ol>'; and I just misread it, but still. |
| 21:42.33 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:42.43 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:43.01 | TuxToaster | ~lolstats |
| 21:43.01 | ibot | total count of lol on #uphpu: 3295. Top 3: TuxToaster -- 461 (14.0%), carmony -- 444 (13.5%), SunSparc -- 413 (12.5%) |
| 21:44.08 | TuxToaster | still not sure how I moved to #1, especially when I am sometimes not active in here for days at a time. |
| 21:44.40 | josePHPagoda | maybe |
| 21:44.44 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:46.54 | TuxToaster | $8ball are the lolstats artificially inflated? |
| 21:46.54 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Outlook good. |
| 21:47.07 | ninnypants | and last I heard carmony was trying to get rid of his position in ~lolstats |
| 21:47.31 | TuxToaster | $8ball is Outlook really good? |
| 21:47.31 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Signs point to yes. |
| 21:48.01 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: yeah, either they're inflated, or everyone else is really *that* far behind. |
| 21:48.27 | ninnypants | ~lolstats ninnypants |
| 21:48.27 | ibot | ninnypants has said lol 0 times (0.0 %) |
| 21:49.00 | TuxToaster | ~lolstats josePHPagoda |
| 21:49.00 | ibot | josePHPagoda has said lol 43 times (1.3 %), ranked 13/102 (percentile: 12.7 %) |
| 21:49.08 | ninnypants | may be that we're just that far behind ;) |
| 21:49.14 | TuxToaster | looks like it |
| 21:49.17 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:49.22 | TuxToaster | that's really kind of sad. |
| 21:49.22 | josePHPagoda | closer by the day |
| 21:49.25 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:49.27 | josePHPagoda | i will be known! |
| 21:49.29 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:49.45 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: what is? |
| 21:50.15 | TuxToaster | the fact that I have that many lol's |
| 21:50.48 | ninnypants | I was thinking everyone switched to limh instead you could always go that route |
| 21:50.52 | influx | ~lolstats influx |
| 21:50.52 | ibot | influx has said lol 4 times (0.1 %), ranked 35/102 (percentile: 34.3 %) |
| 21:51.19 | TuxToaster | esp. since I was inactive in here for quite a while during my last job since I had a hectic work schedule and couldn't use my work machine to chat due to some monitoring policies |
| 21:54.02 | influx | The last two days I had to alternate between a desktop and a laptop to get work done. |
| 21:54.15 | TuxToaster | I do that all the time |
| 21:54.25 | TuxToaster | in fact, doing it right now :-) |
| 21:54.28 | influx | Yeah yeah. |
| 21:54.30 | influx | Details forthcoming. |
| 21:55.14 | influx | I'm doing some PSD-to-HTML work. The only valid copy of Photoshop to which I had access was on the Win7 laptop. The rest of my setup is on the Mac. |
| 21:55.28 | influx | Now I've got a working copy of Photoshop on the desktop again. |
| 21:55.49 | TuxToaster | ah makes sense |
| 21:57.20 | TuxToaster | I occasionally have to do that for things like to record a screencast or something, since I have that setup on my laptop already, but usually it's more of a preference thing since I only have one monitor to use the laptop for displaying a second site or showing reference stuff |
| 21:57.54 | influx | ~nodstats influx |
| 21:58.02 | influx | :) |
| 21:59.34 | TuxToaster | kinda stucks if you don't have a choice, though. |
| 21:59.43 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 22:00.20 | influx | Definitely. |
| 22:00.48 | TuxToaster | ~lurkstats would be good |
| 22:00.51 | influx | It wasn't terrible, but switching from ctrl+c to cmd+c was fun. |
| 22:00.59 | influx | Doing that sort of thing over and over, that is. |
| 22:01.00 | TuxToaster | few people in here that I don't think I've ever seen chat |
| 22:01.04 | influx | Yeah. |
| 22:01.29 | TuxToaster | using Synergy? or switching physically? |
| 22:03.26 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 22:03.26 | ibot | smacks macnewbold up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 22:03.32 | macnewbold | ??? doh |
| 22:03.40 | ninnypants | heh |
| 22:03.42 | ninnypants | $rlart |
| 22:03.42 | raifbot | slaps a compatible dib on TuxToaster's head. |
| 22:04.39 | TuxToaster | karma |
| 22:04.40 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:10.06 | influx | TuxToaster: phsyically |
| 22:10.16 | influx | physically* |
| 22:10.52 | influx | Imagine that my brain was a spinning beachball for a fraction of a second at a time. |
| 22:11.04 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 22:11.54 | TuxToaster | yeah, it doesn't help if other parts of the keyboard layout are different either |
| 22:12.23 | TuxToaster | was setting up a couple of laptops for my niece and nephew last week and some of the keys were just in the wrong place |
| 22:12.43 | TuxToaster | so not only do you want to hit command instead of control, but when I'd go to hit control I'd end up hitting Fn |
| 22:13.11 | TuxToaster | no idea why they thought the fn key needed to be bigger and easier to hit than ctrl |
| 22:14.16 | influx | Aye. It's tricky. |
| 22:15.39 | ninnypants | because every time I watch a non programmer copy and paste they use the mouse not the shortcut keys |
| 22:16.01 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 22:16.02 | ninnypants | I think the only real keyboard shortcuts normal users use are ones for media |
| 22:16.07 | TuxToaster | and it's usually not with a right click either |
| 22:16.11 | ninnypants | so fn is more important |
| 22:16.13 | TuxToaster | they go up to the menu bar |
| 22:16.33 | TuxToaster | good point |
| 22:17.12 | ninnypants | yeah that's always nice |
| 22:17.18 | ninnypants | I don't even have media keys |
| 22:17.40 | TuxToaster | I find I rarely use the actual "media" keys on mine actually |
| 22:17.59 | TuxToaster | I use the brightness controls mostly, and occasionally mute and volume |
| 22:18.39 | TuxToaster | my old laptop had some extra keys that I mapped to things like to open a calculator and such that I used a bit |
| 22:19.09 | TuxToaster | on that one though hitting fn+f8 for brightness was a pain with one hand |
| 22:19.53 | mindjuju | so would anybody here consider putting the wwwroot folder as part of the php include path? i see this as wrought with danger and a significant performance hit, devs are asking for it though |
| 22:19.56 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 22:20.11 | mindjuju | i don't k now how many different ways to tell this guy, he needs to rewrite his class |
| 22:20.20 | TuxToaster | yeah no joke |
| 22:20.24 | mindjuju | fail qa test is fail |
| 22:20.30 | mindjuju | i don't know how this passed??? |
| 22:20.32 | TuxToaster | the include path is intended for common libraries |
| 22:20.37 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 22:20.52 | TuxToaster | if he needs it to include files within the site/app, he's doin it wrong |
| 22:21.28 | TuxToaster | not to mention, PHP automatically adds the folder the script is executing from to it |
| 22:22.53 | ninnypants | yeah that's what I was about to say he shouldn't even need it added to the includepath |
| 22:23.24 | ninnypants | if it requires modifications to the environment just to get includes working it's horribly broken |
| 23:35.28 | influx | I sure do enjoy the (mis)fortunes that fortune provides on login. |
| 23:35.41 | influx | "You will contract a rare disease." |
| 23:35.57 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 23:36.03 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 23:36.31 | josePHPagoda | You may be gone tomorrow, but that doesn't mean that you weren't here today. |
| 23:36.33 | josePHPagoda | is mine |
| 23:39.19 | ninnypants | influx: what is this? |
| 23:43.25 | influx | ninnypants: Fortune? |
| 23:43.48 | influx | Fortune generator; kind of like a fortune cookie. |
| 23:44.18 | ninnypants | influx: never heard of it |
| 23:44.42 | ninnypants | though I think I've seen ibots fortunecookie |
| 23:46.16 | influx | ~fortune |
| 23:46.16 | ibot | [fortune] a kickass app available for Linux. Packages are in OZ and http://frob.us/modules.php?name=Fortune lets you use fortune over the web. |
| 23:46.24 | influx | Oh. Neato. |
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